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SPL Blazer
08-25-2008, 08:59 PM
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They will be having classes for SPL, Sound Quality and possibly a class for those loud systems with the really annoying horns and tweeters. Classes will be based off the size and number of subs. $20 registration fee for the Sound portion. If anyone has further questions they can call Mega-Watt at 508-229-2233. This is NOT an NESPL event, it's being hosted by Mega-Watt as part of the Mass Appeal show. They said they'll be using the same meter as IASCA (termlab?) placed at the windshield and vehicles will be sealed. There will be plenty of stuff going on besides the car show, DJ's, Bikini Contests etc.

Dr. Feelgood
08-25-2008, 09:05 PM
IASCA uses the Audiocontrol 190. Are you going Steve?

SPL Blazer
08-25-2008, 09:11 PM
Yeah, I'll be going. I didn't think anyone serious actually used that meter. I'll be competing, plus I have a bunch of flyers to hand out for my show on the 14th in Boston.

Dr. Feelgood
08-25-2008, 09:15 PM
The 190 if calibrated properly is about 1 db higher then the TL. It reads alot quicker then the TL.

scott s
08-26-2008, 02:17 PM
all the ac 190 meters i was on are all dead on with the tl. i have been to at least 7 with the ac and i own a tl. also been to dbdrag events with the same result

Dr. Feelgood
08-26-2008, 03:27 PM
Maybe your termlab is off. They are not the same.

scott s
08-26-2008, 05:14 PM
and the 3 other tl's i was on are off to?

scott s
08-26-2008, 05:17 PM
now the 180 mic has been known to be off 1-3 i will admit that

OoMesKoO
08-26-2008, 05:19 PM
the AC190 has always been spot on to the tenth for me.

SPL Blazer
08-26-2008, 05:44 PM
It depends on who is running the AC meter and how they adjust the sensitivity levels. I've seen the AC190 where it was off by .2db's, .5db's, even 4 db's. The AC180 I've seen be off by as much as 10 db's over the TL. I had a kid have his new system tested at a shop using the AC190 and he did a 154.6, then we put it on the TL the next day and he was hitting a 148.1, thats a big difference. I know that shop had to have adjusted the sensitivity to boost his ego, and I'm sure it's done at some shows too.

Dr. Feelgood
08-26-2008, 08:38 PM
A good calibrated 180 is usually 6 db higher then the TL. I've competed in DB Drag, USACi, MECA, IASCA and SLAP and an assortment of numerous unsanctioned shows. I've been around for quite sometime.

audioatg
08-27-2008, 07:30 AM
all the ac 190 meters i was on are all dead on with the tl. i have been to at least 7 with the ac and i own a tl. also been to dbdrag events with the same result


I secound Scott's statment... I have a TL and all the slapshows I been to with the AC190 even some small shows were the guy has one too. They are all dead on with my TL. mabye a .1db off. But all dead on.

Bigbear
08-27-2008, 08:23 AM
**** i used to go to school in worcester, shudda fn stayed =/

Dr. Feelgood
08-27-2008, 03:53 PM
Back to what sounds like a good show.

SPL Blazer
09-01-2008, 12:07 PM
Been talkin to a bunch of people that are heading out to this one, should be a really good show.

Astyl
09-01-2008, 12:33 PM
yeah ill be there

Dr. Feelgood
09-01-2008, 09:54 PM
Now I can't make it.

SPL Blazer
09-01-2008, 10:12 PM
I'm hoping to make it. I ripped a surround today while testing. If I get it repaired in time I'll be there.

Dr. Feelgood
09-01-2008, 11:23 PM
Did it rip or just become unglued?

SPL Blazer
09-01-2008, 11:32 PM
About 4" came unglued and ripped about 1/2" of the surround. I'll make some calls on Tuesday and see about repairing it until I can get a new one.

Dr. Feelgood
09-01-2008, 11:35 PM
Call T.J.

97cavy
09-02-2008, 03:21 PM
The AC 190 is VERY close to a TL, But its all dependant on what freq your burping. Someone on tp did a head to head test when the 190 came out.

SPL Blazer
09-02-2008, 08:06 PM
Call T.J.

I talked to Mike from Renots and he told me what kind of adhesive he used on his T3's, so I'm picking that up on Wednesday so the sub will be fixed for the weekend. Now if only the rain holds off til the show is over.

SPL Blazer
09-02-2008, 08:10 PM
The AC 190 is VERY close to a TL, But its all dependant on what freq your burping. Someone on tp did a head to head test when the 190 came out.

Hey Marty, I think it's time to change your sig, it's been months since you got rid of the Fi's.

97cavy
09-02-2008, 09:54 PM
lol this is true, i dont get around here that often anymore lol

scott s
09-03-2008, 10:18 AM
i just did a head to head test .4 higher on the ac
http://s212.photobucket.com/albums/cc31/talon0001/?action=view&current=Picture.flv

SPL Blazer
09-04-2008, 10:18 PM
This show has been CANCELLED! Well possibly postponed, but no details have been released yet. Due to the bad weather this weekend they are stopping the show. I'll post any info on a new date as soon as I get it.

97cavy
09-05-2008, 08:36 AM
Yeah we have a HUGE muscle car show a lil north of me that draws 1500 cars and estimated 150,000 people this weekend that looks like its gonna get soaked

SPL Blazer
09-05-2008, 01:32 PM
As of now they're suggesting that it might be moved to the 27th, but it's not official.

SPL Blazer
09-05-2008, 09:20 PM
Ok, now it's official. The new date is Sept 20th.

edzy
09-08-2008, 06:56 PM
ic.

edzy
09-19-2008, 11:03 AM
ic u there

SPL Blazer
09-19-2008, 02:00 PM
See everyone there in the morning,.

Mr. Slate
09-19-2008, 03:22 PM
Post pics.

edzy
09-20-2008, 09:39 PM
I still have a piercing headache.....:(

SPL Blazer
09-20-2008, 10:21 PM
This show was a joke. I was told my a majority of the guys that showed up that they only showed up cause they thought I was hosting it, wish I was. I thought I had made it clear that NESPL was not part of this show. The event promoter screwed everyone over by cutting the number of trophies from 25 to 16 at the last minute. This forced the shop that was doing the metering to cut classes and merge people into classes they should never have been placed into. And then they were forced to cut the 3rd place trophies and only hand out trophies to 1st and 2nd place.
There were no rules set up, so they let one guy compete in two different classes with the same vehicle, all because he switched boxes from two 12's to one 12 and paid to do two classes. This will NOT happen at any NESPL event, I will be editing the rules on our website to make sure people realize this. With NESPL, If you compete you will not be allowed to swap equipment in order to change classes. Sorry to anyone that showed up thinking NESPL was hosting this, we were merely helping them promote the show to SPL competitors in hopes of having a good independent show. Maybe next season they'll smarten up an have us run the show.

edzy
09-20-2008, 10:33 PM
well said. I agree, it was a poorly run show.

btw, do you know what the 1st and 2nd 3-12 or 2-15 class scores were at? I had to split to go pick up this.

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I was kinda miffed when they muffed the meter on my 2nd run. ( after waitng for horny people who couldnt decide if they should drive up or not)



and I still have a headache.

Mr. Slate
09-20-2008, 11:54 PM
Which meter, numbers?

SPL Blazer
09-21-2008, 08:41 AM
They were using the AC190 at the glass. I didn't really notice the other numbers. I know Keith from Renots was a 158, those Brazillian guys that were switchin boxes were doing a 149 with the 2 12's and a 144 with the single 12. They were reading off the scores when they handed out the trophies, but I was pissed off at the show promoters by that point and walked away as soon as I got mine so I didn't hear what everyone else got.

SPL Blazer
09-21-2008, 08:43 AM
It didn't help where they couldn't figure out how to get the meter to hold the peak score and they kept playing with it. Almost everyone was 2 db's higher than normal, by the time I got up my numbers were maybe .5 db's higher. I did a 149.3 at the glass, on my TL I'm doing high 148's.

edzy
09-21-2008, 09:31 AM
Yea. That other Regular SPL guy (the JL guy) was telling me how they had the sensitivity tweeked on certain runs. And asked them if they were gonna tweek his run or what (sacasam)
I think he told them what he wanted for a score, again being sarcasm.
Reminds my off those stories of car audio shops hosting events using walmart boom sticks.

Mr. Slate
09-21-2008, 01:02 PM
A lot of cars showed up?

SPL Blazer
09-21-2008, 10:22 PM
I think maybe 15 cars at the most, and maybe another 10 or 15 of those annoying *** horn type cars. As soon as my SPL run was done I walked to the other end of the show so I wouldn't have to listen to those ones.

mjf
09-21-2008, 10:45 PM
I think maybe 15 cars at the most, and maybe another 10 or 15 of those annoying *** horn type cars. As soon as my SPL run was done I walked to the other end of the show so I wouldn't have to listen to those ones.

sorta expected that one, probably the cheapest ones they sell on ebay too.

horns on low pow can be nice if ran properly, but of course you just end up with the morons who are intentionally trying to **** people off.

SPL Blazer
09-21-2008, 11:08 PM
The horns style set up's are pretty popular with the Brazilian guys. They pack as many of them into a box or their doors or both, and place a meter about 6 feet away and see what they hit on the old AC180 meter.

Mr. Slate
09-22-2008, 12:07 PM
No bass?

SPL Blazer
09-22-2008, 12:21 PM
They have a little bass, but it's more about being as loud as possible, and as annoying as possible I think.

edzy
09-23-2008, 07:37 PM
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