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us3
08-13-2008, 12:01 AM
Hi

I just thought I'd share some pics of this box before it goes in.

2 15" RE XXX
2.1cf Sealed w/ fill
Braced, Supported and X-line Coated


and Very Heavy!

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y172/ike557/z%201a%20re06xxx/31.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y172/ike557/z%201a%20re06xxx/32.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y172/ike557/z%201a%20re06xxx/33.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y172/ike557/z%201a%20re06xxx/30.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y172/ike557/z%201a%20re06xxx/34.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y172/ike557/z%201a%20re06xxx/37.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y172/ike557/z%201a%20re06xxx/38.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y172/ike557/z%201a%20re06xxx/41.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y172/ike557/z%201a%20re06xxx/40.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y172/ike557/z%201a%20re06xxx/35.jpg

us3
08-13-2008, 12:01 AM
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y172/ike557/z%201a%20re06xxx/36.jpg

zack39648
08-13-2008, 12:03 AM
may be just me but that box look really small for those subs

mlstrass
08-13-2008, 12:03 AM
Coating looks nice. How thick is the plexi?

snoopysnooper
08-13-2008, 12:04 AM
must sound **** near UH-MAZE-ING!

JB513
08-13-2008, 12:05 AM
Looks nice.

BIGsherm7272
08-13-2008, 12:05 AM
Clean job, but don't you think that is a bit too small, even for it being sealed?

duece212
08-13-2008, 12:05 AM
is that silicon around the baskets?

and how much was the line-x?

x2o
08-13-2008, 12:09 AM
I think 1 cube per sub is extremely on the small side, :crap:

they recommend 1.6-2.1 PER 15" XXX, unless you mean that box is 2.1 cubes per chamber, your suffocating those things. But your using polyfill, so I'm not sure how that effects it.

BUT, aside from that, the box looks REALLY nice and I'm loving the plexi side, although I wouldn't exactly show off a box with polyfill, just doesn't look that purty to me :p: But great build and really clean job man, hope you like it. Let us know how it sounds :)



Is line-x in a spray-can or is it sprayed with a gun / compressor?

us3
08-13-2008, 12:10 AM
may be just me but that box look really small for those subs


The MFJ recommends: 1.6 - 2.1 cf Sealed

So it's at the top of the recommendation..

Yes it seems small but if you have a little extra power and EQ then it will be ok. (and in the car)

probmxstyle
08-13-2008, 12:11 AM
Box looks quality, but looks too small and the silicon looks like garbage

Phers1er
08-13-2008, 12:11 AM
looks nice!!! One thing though.. I think it would look better if you taped off the plexi and painted a wide black line on it to cover the sealant on the bracing. Or make a piece to cover it and spray it with some more x-line.
just a thought

us3
08-13-2008, 12:12 AM
Coating looks nice. How thick is the plexi?


3/4 thick and it is Acrylic not Plexi

Echo42987
08-13-2008, 12:12 AM
I'm gonna hve to agree w/ everbody here

us3
08-13-2008, 12:13 AM
is that silicon around the baskets?

and how much was the line-x?

Yes that is silicone everywhere..

The coating was professionally X-Lined and it was $200 (yeah tell me about it..)

MikeyB
08-13-2008, 12:14 AM
Nice box but I dont really like the plexi with polyfill inside. Should have done one or the other imo. Looks kinda weird with that and all the caulking.

But nice job.

duece212
08-13-2008, 12:16 AM
so how much was the line-x job? and is it the standard or does it have the xtra on it? Looks good

Phers1er
08-13-2008, 12:17 AM
looks nice!!! One thing though.. I think it would look better if you taped off the plexi and painted a wide black line on it to cover the sealant on the bracing. Or make a piece to cover it and spray it with some more x-line.
just a thought

sorta like this
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a51/pherzo/hv121incw.jpg

us3
08-13-2008, 12:20 AM
People the box is dual sealed chambers @ 2.1 cf for each sub

it's 4.2 cf total

I hesitated to post this here and know I remember why..


For the people with negative comments: What do your boxes look like? (bare MDF or prefab?)

us3
08-13-2008, 12:21 AM
so how much was the line-x job? and is it the standard or does it have the xtra on it? Looks good

(I quoted you before but)

It was $200 and it added about 15-20 pounds to the box.

Phers1er
08-13-2008, 12:23 AM
I hope my comment did not come off negative. Because I did not mean it that way.
I just thought that the box looked like you spent some time on it and that covering the sealant would make it look a little better.
Sorry

x2o
08-13-2008, 12:23 AM
People the box is dual sealed chambers @ 2.1 cf for each sub

it's 4.2 cf total

I hesitated to post this here and know I remember why..


For the people with negative comments: What do your boxes look like? (bare MDF or prefab?)

ahh okay, I thought you meant 2.1 cubes total. It's hard to tell using the sub as reference since the new XXX's are huge! :p:

As for the comments on the box I made, I did not say it was bad, and yes my box is bare MDF (it adds teh dBzzzz)

But, overall I said the box came out nice, I just wouldn't have window'd it with polyfill myself, but I can respect the craftsman ship of the box and overall I think it was a **** good job.

I realize you comment may not have been directed at me, but meh. :)


EDIT : ****! Bed liner is heavy! haha, I had no idea.

duece212
08-13-2008, 12:23 AM
(I quoted you before but)

It was $200 and it added about 15-20 pounds to the box.

My bad, missed it.

Thats some pricey ****, but worth it for the look being different from carpet.

twisztdauthorit
08-13-2008, 12:23 AM
the caulk is what stands out worst to me imo.

the polyfill doesnt look "to" bad
good quality box.

Id recommend taking a razor blade and cutting all excess silicone to atleast make the lines straight if possible.

props on the box though

x2o
08-13-2008, 12:25 AM
Yeah I don't think the polyfill looks too bad, just different. It reminds me of those villages my family used to put under the christmas tree that used the white fluffy stuff as fake snow :)

us3
08-13-2008, 12:25 AM
Thanks for all the positive comments!!

This box was ment to be sealed, dampened and so I could see the subs move. It worked out exactly as planned.

Thanks again

twisztdauthorit
08-13-2008, 12:26 AM
People the box is dual sealed chambers @ 2.1 cf for each sub

it's 4.2 cf total

I hesitated to post this here and know I remember why..


For the people with negative comments: What do your boxes look like? (bare MDF or prefab?)


did you not want constructive criticism ?
this is usually how people get better.

not trying to be negative at all, i really do like the look of the box but the silicone screams at me :rolleyes:

wonder how it will sound

us3
08-13-2008, 12:28 AM
ahh okay, I thought you meant 2.1 cubes total. It's hard to tell using the sub as reference since the new XXX's are huge! :p:

As for the comments on the box I made, I did not say it was bad, and yes my box is bare MDF (it adds teh dBzzzz)

But, overall I said the box came out nice, I just wouldn't have window'd it with polyfill myself, but I can respect the craftsman ship of the box and overall I think it was a **** good job.

I realize you comment may not have been directed at me, but meh. :)


EDIT : ****! Bed liner is heavy! haha, I had no idea.


Cool man thanks for the reply! (sorry, I felt I was getting flammed)

And yeah I had no idea how much the bed liner weighed.. it's heavy but that's a good thing

stuckinok
08-13-2008, 12:31 AM
People the box is dual sealed chambers @ 2.1 cf for each sub

it's 4.2 cf total

I hesitated to post this here and know I remember why..


For the people with negative comments: What do your boxes look like? (bare MDF or prefab?)

My box doesnt look like someone jizzed all over it

us3
08-13-2008, 12:31 AM
Right on guys, I must have taken the comments the wrong way

I took the constructive criticism as talking trash.

Thanks for giving me a chance to clear it up!

twisztdauthorit
08-13-2008, 12:31 AM
Yeah I don't think the polyfill looks too bad, just different. It reminds me of those villages my family used to put under the christmas tree that used the white fluffy stuff as fake snow :)

:laugh:

dcole18
08-13-2008, 12:31 AM
i wonder if you could paint the polyfill?

x2o
08-13-2008, 12:32 AM
Cool man thanks for the reply! (sorry, I felt I was getting flammed)

And yeah I had no idea how much the bed liner weighed.. it's heavy but that's a good thing

Haha no problem, a lot of CA.com is prone to flame as soon as they see something they don't like. I try never to flame, as everyone's tastes vary and just cause I may not like something, the person who did it might love it. Who cares what I think about it personally, as long as you love it. :]

And yeah, I think I may spray my next box with liner, all I'd need is the material as my friend Alex does that for a living and owns a detail / wash / etc shop that does crap like that so he'll spray it for me free of labor charge. It is heavy, but I also consider it a good thing :)

us3
08-13-2008, 12:32 AM
My box doesnt look like someone jizzed all over it

Ha ha, I was waiting for that one

It just felt soo good making the box..

stuckinok
08-13-2008, 12:33 AM
Ha ha, I was waiting for that one

It just felt soo good making the box..

yikes...lol

but props for making something different

dcole18
08-13-2008, 12:33 AM
and to the op, remove the acrylic, then very carefully take a razorblade and trim the silicone straight with the edges of the box, that will make it look even better than it does now

Edit: do the same around the subs

MikeyB
08-13-2008, 12:37 AM
sorta like this
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a51/pherzo/hv121incw.jpg

^^^ Yeah you should do something like that. Just paint the areas where the braces are and what not.

That and cleaning up the caulking on the subs a little and that would look clean as hell. :D

us3
08-13-2008, 12:39 AM
and to the op, remove the acrylic, then very carefully take a razorblade and trim the silicone straight with the edges of the box, that will make it look even better than it does now

Edit: do the same around the subs


I don't think you could paint the fill, you'd need to get every fiber


At this point I just want to hear the subs and probaly won't do anything else untill I take the box back out of the trunk.


I appreciate all the comments and suggestions and sorry again if I took some comments the wrong way. (my bad)

Thanks again guys, I'll post how it sounds this weekend.

dcole18
08-13-2008, 12:42 AM
I don't think you could paint the fill, you'd need to get every fiber


At this point I just want to hear the subs and probaly won't do anything else untill I take the box back out of the trunk.


I appreciate all the comments and suggestions and sorry again if I took some comments the wrong way. (my bad)

Thanks again guys, I'll post how it sounds this weekend.

you could prolly dust the fill very lightly with black spraypaint, even if it turns it gray that will still be better looking than white IMO

snb778
08-13-2008, 01:01 AM
box looks bad asz... different, coating is clean, props

you could do the same with the silicone to... cover the "window" with tape, and leave a 2" border on the outside so you can spray paint it black, then you won't be able to see the silicone at all... I'd personally take care of that before the polyfill...the polyfill has nothing to do with the construction of the box...

with the power of those subs... im surprised just silicone is enough to hold that thing on.. but if it works, it works

us3
08-13-2008, 01:16 AM
you could prolly dust the fill very lightly with black spraypaint, even if it turns it gray that will still be better looking than white IMO

Man all you guys got me thinking now

Once I hear it, I may take the panel off to clean up the silicone and take the fill out. If I can't hear a difference, I'll be good to go all the way around. (if not it's back in)

I liked the way the inside of the box looked and actually didn't want to put the fill in. I've just heard a difference between the 2 and liked the packed with fill sound better than an empty box.

Again, thanks for the suggestions. I just wasn't listening before..

W8 a minute
08-13-2008, 01:21 AM
What keeps the polyfill (or pieces/threads of polyfill) out of the voice coil? :confused:

us3
08-13-2008, 01:24 AM
box looks bad asz... different, coating is clean, props

you could do the same with the silicone to... cover the "window" with tape, and leave a 2" border on the outside so you can spray paint it black, then you won't be able to see the silicone at all... I'd personally take care of that before the polyfill...the polyfill has nothing to do with the construction of the box...

with the power of those subs... im surprised just silicone is enough to hold that thing on.. but if it works, it works

There is actually 13 screws mounting the panel on now. The last pics are of how it was, the first pics are of how it is now. It's been remounted twice and has had 2 full layers of silicone applied. (you can see them if you look close, a radi and a 45) The intention was to have no screws and it would have worked but the acrylic was warped and pulled up.

I think if I cut the silicone right to the edge it will look ok without adding a trim or covering the edges.

I'm going to use some black silicone if/when I reseal it on. It would at least blend in better.

We'll see thanks again

Matt

us3
08-13-2008, 01:28 AM
What keeps the polyfill (or pieces/threads of polyfill) out of the voice coil? :confused:


It's batting sheet (not loose fill ) that's spray glued together and it's stapled to the inside of the box.

Good Call, I took that into consideration when putting it in.

DePratt
08-13-2008, 01:33 AM
The MFJ recommends: 1.6 - 2.1 cf Sealed

So it's at the top of the recommendation..

Yes it seems small but if you have a little extra power and EQ then it will be ok. (and in the car)

QUOTED FOR EMPHASIS

LEARN TO READ PEOPLE!!

x2o
08-13-2008, 01:34 AM
QUOTED FOR EMPHASIS

LEARN TO READ PEOPLE!!

He didn't state it was 2.1cubes PER chamber, he simply said 2.1 cubes.

Sorry, but I know how to read.



2.1cf Sealed w/ fill

us3
08-13-2008, 01:49 AM
He didn't state it was 2.1cubes PER chamber, he simply said 2.1 cubes.

Sorry, but I know how to read.


DePratt, thanks for the look out but x2o is correct, I did not state that in the first post.

I did figure that you could clearly see the box was 2 chambers and big enough to fit around the huge subs, but it's all good either way.

x2o
08-13-2008, 01:50 AM
DePratt, thanks for the look out but x2o is correct, I did not state that in the first post.

I did figure that you could clearly see the box was 2 chambers and big enough to fit around the huge subs, but it's all good either way.

Haha well very few have actually seen the new XXX's, and I knew they were huge, but **** to take up so much of a 2.1 cube chamber, they really are huge.. I loves me a big beefy mother****er though :)

us3
08-13-2008, 02:14 AM
Haha well very few have actually seen the new XXX's, and I knew they were huge, but **** to take up so much of a 2.1 cube chamber, they really are huge.. I loves me a big beefy mother****er though :)

Your right huh, I didn't know how big these were untill I got looked at them in person.

Did you know they are actually over 16" in diameter, over a foot tall and weigh over 74 pounds each?

I wonder how big the 18" is??

Weeznur32
08-13-2008, 02:23 AM
real nice....the solicone around the subs ruins it for me....nice job tho man....legit

us3
08-13-2008, 02:29 AM
real nice....the solicone around the subs ruins it for me....nice job tho man....legit


That will be off cleaned once 100% dry.

The inside will be there until the cover comes off again. Then it will be cleaned up and less used n the reseal.

I guess I'm so interested to hear the subs that I'm looking past the silicone because it's not that big of a deal to me..

I agree, it does look like crap though

PV Audio
08-13-2008, 02:34 AM
People the box is dual sealed chambers @ 2.1 cf for each sub

it's 4.2 cf total

I hesitated to post this here and know I remember why..


For the people with negative comments: What do your boxes look like? (bare MDF or prefab?)What the **** are you getting all bent out of shape for? If you don't want commentary, feel free to leave.

PV Audio
08-13-2008, 02:37 AM
QUOTED FOR EMPHASIS

LEARN TO READ PEOPLE!!Input power and enclosure size are not interchangeable ;)

PV Audio
08-13-2008, 02:37 AM
Box looks ****** though OP, although it isn't to my taste, but credit where credit is due my friend. :)

us3
08-13-2008, 02:42 AM
Box looks ****** though OP, although it isn't to my taste, but credit where credit is due my friend. :)

Cool man thanks

I've posted that I took the initial comments the wrong way and have now looked into those ideas..

Anything that happens to the box from here on out should just make it better.

us3
08-13-2008, 02:48 AM
PV Audio, love your sig man!

I wish that all engineers were like that though.. some want to put extra or not needed (unmanufacturable) features on their glass..

Your sig is where it's at though.

PV Audio
08-13-2008, 02:49 AM
You're an engineer I take it? :laugh:

us3
08-13-2008, 03:07 AM
You're an engineer I take it? :laugh:


I'm a machinst but I teach some of our engineers how to design and mfj their concepts..

That sig is a good statement for a good engineer.

kovemaster559
08-13-2008, 03:13 AM
zomfg Ahhhhh Skeet Skeet Skeet Skeet Skeet Skeet!

twisztdauthorit
08-13-2008, 03:40 AM
I'm a machinst but I teach some of our engineers how to design and mfj their concepts..

That sig is a good statement for a good engineer.


anyone in here a mechanical engineer?

5.3bowtie
08-13-2008, 12:31 PM
give me another couple of years and I will hopefully be one :)

Beerdrnkr
08-13-2008, 12:57 PM
Hey bro, good work on that enclosure. You have to let me have a listen when you get a chance. Rockford 4000 to each?

PV Audio
08-13-2008, 02:17 PM
anyone in here a mechanical engineer?EE in training son :D

Bun-Bun
08-13-2008, 06:10 PM
anyone in here a mechanical engineer?

Aye

innsanes
08-17-2008, 06:22 PM
3/4 thick and it is Acrylic not Plexi

plexi glass is arylic, its just a name brand. like kleenix to tissue papers

fasfocus00
08-17-2008, 06:26 PM
plexi glass is arylic, its just a name brand. like kleenix to tissue papers

acrylic is a type of plexi glass, just like crytalite and lexan. the brand name is GE Polymershapes.

Eugenics
08-17-2008, 06:39 PM
If you paint the polyfill you will most likely change its properties.

alex5857
08-17-2008, 06:48 PM
Vids?

us3
08-17-2008, 06:49 PM
plexi glass is arylic, its just a name brand. like kleenix to tissue papers


Yeah I thought he meant Poly.. my mistake

You guys are both right

us3
08-17-2008, 06:49 PM
If you paint the polyfill you will most likely change its properties.


I think so too, thanks!

us3
08-17-2008, 06:52 PM
Vids?

Not yet it's still sitting there. It will be in the car in a few hours.. (I hope)

Maybe a vid tomorrow if it gets in.



Thanks for all the comments guys!!

THUMPPER
08-17-2008, 07:20 PM
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y172/ike557/z%201a%20re06xxx/36.jpg


seriously dude....do something about all that squeezed out silicone
cuz it looks like azz

nice job on the box itself though;)

us3
08-17-2008, 07:26 PM
Yeah it will be cleaned up and the fill will be taken out after I hear it like this..

It will look fine once it's all cleaned up on the inside and out.

Thanks again for the input guys

Lakota
08-17-2008, 09:07 PM
EE major.

adas
08-17-2008, 09:19 PM
I know for fact thats one heavy *** box.

ngsm13
08-17-2008, 09:25 PM
****!!!!

nG

Corey69
08-17-2008, 09:30 PM
Why don't you use foam tape around the sub cutout to seal the sub instead of silicone around the basket.

miker
08-17-2008, 11:09 PM
Please cut off that excess silicon, because that box looks really nice, but that just ****ed it up..

MikeyB
08-17-2008, 11:22 PM
anyone in here a mechanical engineer?

Yup, thats what Im in school for :)

PV Audio
08-18-2008, 02:31 AM
EE major.:bowdown:

PV Audio
08-18-2008, 02:31 AM
Yup, thats what Im in school for :)EE or go home :mad:

Tehgregzor
08-18-2008, 04:44 AM
Jesus...i bet that sonuva bish LBS!

chinxtaboi
08-18-2008, 05:56 AM
sweet box man. that things gotta weigh a thousand pounds. shouldve use black silicone though. but still an awesome box.

Zeuslicious
08-28-2008, 02:47 AM
I haven't had time to check your pics man, But I really enjoyed your setup. It was sick!!!
32Hz FTW

MikeyB
08-28-2008, 08:55 AM
EE or go home :mad:

:furious:

lol Ive been thinking about minoring in EE

:hide:

connersdad19
08-28-2008, 09:08 AM
we need vids?

Freelander
08-28-2008, 02:05 PM
If you were close I would help you out by cutting out some vinyl to put over the plexi to cover up the silicone. Take it to a shop that does custom vinyl, its cheap and looks better than spray paint and will last longer.

snoopdan
08-28-2008, 02:15 PM
$200 to get sprayed? OUCH. It was $50 for my whole wall to get done inside and out!

http://a126.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/113/l_3c8bcb1b72d74d936c4474cd6ff1a6d5.jpg

might want to shop around next time. You could try getting that silicone off with some tourlene.

Buck
08-28-2008, 02:17 PM
looks ******