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slim j
08-12-2008, 12:34 PM
Got a couple questions about trying to build a HTPC.

The main requirements are:

Blu-Ray / DVD Burner
Video Card with RGB out
Sound Card with optical out
1 TB of hard drive
Plenty of ram and processing speed for movies.

I am running into a difficult time finding a video card with red, green, blue out. Any suggestions?

itsbmw
08-12-2008, 02:21 PM
I use my Xbox as a media center (original xbox I modded with a 320GB HD) Works perfectly :)
You mean component out? Like the High def? or?(talking about the RGB portion)
EDIT: I don't know what your budget is but this card is good:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130084
it has the component output if that's what you mean by RGB. I will try to get all the parts you need within the next few hours.

Case:
High Budget. Has front controls and remote etc.-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133060
Lower budget-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163118
Power Supply:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817338008
Hard Drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136151
Motherboard (has optical out on it):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128090
CPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103234
RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231144
Blu-ray/dvd burner:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135158

slim j
08-12-2008, 04:22 PM
Thanks man, that is everything I was looking for and want. I see some places where I may upgrade.

jdc753
08-12-2008, 04:25 PM
newegg FTW looks like everything is under control here. I would love to build one of these down the road, and ya can't beat the prices of hard drives at the moment.

Bun-Bun
08-12-2008, 04:34 PM
You could also do mATX and get the Sugo SG01 case and the Asus P5E-VM HDMI. That is what I got and I love it... I have pics but they are not uploaded.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163050 <-- SG01 Try and find the -F variant though. Better layout.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131237&Tpk=p5e-vm%2bhdmi (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131237&Tpk=p5e-vm&#37;2bhdmi) <-- Asus P5E-VM HDMI (Awesome MOBO!)

Also if you get the above sugo case I highly recommend this PSU

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256027 <-- ST50EF-SC (Short Cable Edition)

Rock solid PSU with shorter cables... hey I have my camera at work. I will upload my pics ;)

EDIT: you could also use the onboard audio on that mobo with spdif (i beleive it has both coax and optical out) or go with one of the asus PCI-e sounds cards http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description=asus+sound+card

slim j
08-12-2008, 04:34 PM
Also, looks like the only thing this lacks that I need is the Operating Sytem. I guess I should run vista?

slim j
08-12-2008, 04:38 PM
Thanks Bun, but I like the case the first guy mentioned better as it looks less like a computer and more like a "media" center. This computer will never see word, excel, etc. Just burn and play DVD/Blu-Ray

itsbmw
08-12-2008, 04:47 PM
I would maybe do 4gb of ram or a faster processor but what I posted I think is plenty. If you like to "keep it legal" you can buy vista ultimate or XP MCE. I prefer XP MCE just because it uses less resources. I can get you a legal vista ultimate key and legal download really cheap. If not you can torrent it. PM ME if you're interested.

Bun-Bun
08-12-2008, 04:53 PM
Thanks Bun, but I like the case the first guy mentioned better as it looks less like a computer and more like a "media" center. This computer will never see word, excel, etc. Just burn and play DVD/Blu-Ray

Take a look at the pics... http://pics.livejournal.com/bun_bun/gallery/00018q04 looks nice in my entertainment center. I am also going to stealth the drives and make a door for the USB plugs on the front.

this one may be better suited to your tastes http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163112

My shuttle looked the best but the mobo blew and it had little room for upgrades and was expensive.

I do reccomend a better PSU then what was linked previously...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139003 <-- Corsair 450VX modular and very strong unit.

OH also for the OS for what you are doing you can pick up MCE 2005 OEM for pretty cheap. Other then that downloaded a pirated copy of vista ultimate and buy the window genuine advange kit when microsoft detects you have a illigal copy (best price you can get for a retail copy ;)) 2gb of ram would be find for MCE 2005 but if going vista... go 64 bit and get 4 gb's... youll thank me later.

itsbmw
08-12-2008, 05:02 PM
Take a look at the pics... http://pics.livejournal.com/bun_bun/gallery/00018q04 looks nice in my entertainment center. I am also going to stealth the drives and make a door for the USB plugs on the front.

this one may be better suited to your tastes http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163112

My shuttle looked the best but the mobo blew and it had little room for upgrades and was expensive.

I do reccomend a better PSU then what was linked previously...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139003 <-- Corsair 450VX modular and very strong unit.

OH also for the OS for what you are doing you can pick up MCE 2005 OEM for pretty cheap. Other then that downloaded a pirated copy of vista ultimate and buy the window genuine advange kit when microsoft detects you have a illigal copy (best price you can get for a retail copy ;)) 2gb of ram would be find for MCE 2005 but if going vista... go 64 bit and get 4 gb's... youll thank me later.
Yeah I would recommend the PSU upgrade also sorry for not PMing you that. And If you want I got legal Vista keys and downloads for like 25 bucks.

slim j
08-12-2008, 05:03 PM
I upgraded the RAM to this because I thought you needed 4GB with vista.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231184

slim j
08-12-2008, 05:05 PM
To answer your PM, I just "guessed" on what RAM to get. And I like the first case the best since it comes with a remote and all. I assume that remote will work with vista and I do not need a mouse in my living room?

I know I will need a mouse and keyboard initially to set everything up.

chargers
08-12-2008, 05:06 PM
I would maybe do 4gb of ram or a faster processor but what I posted I think is plenty. If you like to "keep it legal" you can buy vista ultimate or XP MCE. I prefer XP MCE just because it uses less resources. I can get you a legal vista ultimate key and legal download really cheap. If not you can torrent it. PM ME if you're interested.
How "cheap"?

Bun-Bun
08-12-2008, 05:10 PM
To answer your PM, I just "guessed" on what RAM to get. And I like the first case the best since it comes with a remote and all. I assume that remote will work with vista and I do not need a mouse in my living room?

I know I will need a mouse and keyboard initially to set everything up.

If the remote you are refereing to is the Microsoft MCE remote or a MCE compatible remote then yeah you wont need a keyboard and mouse hooked up all the time. I keep a wireless keyboard and mouse beside my futon just for those times I decide to game on the big screen or surf the web from my couch when im sick or something. But for 99% of MCE usage a MCE remote does it all.

Although you can do some freaking amazing things with the logitech harmony remote and MCE... check it out. A great forum for MCE type stuff is www.thegreenbutton.com

slim j
08-12-2008, 05:11 PM
I am not seeing where this drive burns blu rays. I guess I may be explaining it wrong. I am not all that interested in making copies of the movies, what I want is to save them to the hard drive for later viewing. Will this unit do that? It seems all the units less than $300 only play blu-ray.

itsbmw
08-12-2008, 05:12 PM
How "cheap"?

around 30 dollars. :p

I am not seeing where this drive burns blu rays. I guess I may be explaining it wrong. I am not all that interested in making copies of the movies, what I want is to save them to the hard drive for later viewing. Will this unit do that? It seems all the units less than $300 only play blu-ray.

Newegg says it burns them. but if all you want is to rip them to the hard drive you just need a DVD ripping program that supports ripping blu ray movies :)

Bun-Bun
08-12-2008, 05:15 PM
I am not seeing where this drive burns blu rays. I guess I may be explaining it wrong. I am not all that interested in making copies of the movies, what I want is to save them to the hard drive for later viewing. Will this unit do that? It seems all the units less than $300 only play blu-ray.

A burner is used to write to the medium itself (be it DVD, blu-ray). A reader can do everything else.

itsbmw
08-12-2008, 05:19 PM
for instructions on how to rip them and play them for free is here:
http://club.cdfreaks.com/f142/backup-your-blu-ray-movies-guide-backupbluray-208395/
then do this to play them in media center:
http://a8t8.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!2518DD508BB713E8!240.entry

Flipx99
08-12-2008, 05:30 PM
Hell, I think even I may be able to accomplish this. How much easier is everything if you don't do the blue-ray option...just regular DVDs?

like this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827129015

i guess you still have to find software to burn dvds.

itsbmw
08-12-2008, 05:33 PM
If you mean ripping DVD's it is wayyy easier than blu ray.
just find a program that does it. I found a free one : http://www.gobuysoftware.com/Free-DVD-Ripper.html
Burning them is easy too. If you don't care about legality I can get you links to what I use :)

Flipx99
08-12-2008, 05:33 PM
WHat is the difference between ripping and burning?

Flipx99
08-12-2008, 05:42 PM
is this the media center:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116049

Would one need anything else?

Sorry for stealing your thread slimj

itsbmw
08-12-2008, 05:42 PM
WHat is the difference between ripping and burning?
Ripping puts it on the computer. Burning puts it on a disk.

Edit:
yes that is the media center operating system.