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Black Truck 10
08-05-2008, 11:29 PM
Hey yall I just figured I would create a build log of my truck as well as a complaint log over my previous installers all in one. I didnt realise how shotty of a job they did untill I got down to my bare medal and I wanted yalls opinion.

1st is my air vents that are on the floor of the truck just in front of the power cables for the powered driver seat, this is a picture of how it should be
http://www.f150online.com/galleries/images/5541-8792-125954.jpg

This is how mine looks.
http://i308.photobucket.com/albums/kk331/Black_Truck_10/DSC01720.jpg

Here is how some of my grounds were.
http://i308.photobucket.com/albums/kk331/Black_Truck_10/DSC01713.jpg

http://i308.photobucket.com/albums/kk331/Black_Truck_10/DSC01709.jpg

http://i308.photobucket.com/albums/kk331/Black_Truck_10/DSC01718.jpg


Can someone tell me if this is right how they did this or if this is just a shotty job?

Instead of using a distribution block for my truck they did this:
http://i308.photobucket.com/albums/kk331/Black_Truck_10/DSC01711.jpg

Instead of proper length cable they did this:
http://i308.photobucket.com/albums/kk331/Black_Truck_10/DSC01714.jpg

I want to reiterate im the jackass that gave them the truck 6 months old and asked for their top install and this is what I got, I will have more pictures of my build as I go forward with it. I am about to start Raammatting the truck.

kovemaster559
08-05-2008, 11:31 PM
cool!

twisztdauthorit
08-05-2008, 11:41 PM
who did it for you... that install ***** total balls

Black Truck 10
08-05-2008, 11:52 PM
Im not sure if were allowed to name drop in here but if not then mod please delete but it was Hyper Audio in Katy Texas. I posted a review of them in the reviews section, and to say the least I wasnt impressed with anything else they did to the truck including sub box or speaker installation.

TSGP
08-05-2008, 11:57 PM
the screwing through the ring terminal is ok.

I do that on some installs to secure the ground, but i also run a screw through the hole, then the secondary screw holds it in place.

The tape with no dist block is horrible!

also splicing the speaker wire is ok, but if they were going to drop the wires I don't know why they cut them too short in the first place lol
did you untape it and see what they did?

twisztdauthorit
08-06-2008, 12:14 AM
the screwing through the ring terminal is ok.

I do that on some installs to secure the ground, but i also run a screw through the hole, then the secondary screw holds it in place.

The tape with no dist block is horrible!

also splicing the speaker wire is ok, but if they were going to drop the wires I don't know why they cut them too short in the first place lol
did you untape it and see what they did?

If u do it right you shouldn't have to use 2 screws...

tape is so so, i would have secured it with zipties as to make sure it doesn't unravel under heat. But would have rather chosen distros

And splicing, why not just heatshrink them, looks cleaner, and holds better.

you have the right to complain.

if u dont mind us asking, how much did u spend and what was included

Black Truck 10
08-06-2008, 12:54 AM
I spent 500 for wiring and install. It would of been more but I agreed to pay cash. The install all it was was put everything in. I paid earlier for the sub box. He even told me the higher price was for their higher install which included top of the line wire, and speaker cable.

They put in 2 10 w3v2 subs, and mb quart components up front, and some fill speakers in the back. Alpine CDA-7995, and a memphis st-1000d amp, and a memphis 3004 amp. Everything in this paragraph I had purchased prior to install.

After taking out the wiring they used Memphis RCA's, 4 gauge wiring to the sunb amp (monster) and 8 gauge to my door amp (hugfen).

Further review I had another ground on the other side of my truck again on a painted metal part. Awesome.

I thought I had some ground to complain (no pun intended) but I wasnt sure if this was normal how alot of this was, especially cutting out the plastic to my a/c vent for the rear of the truck, and not clearing with me at all. Then just scotch taping it back up. Im pretty upset about that. Ill post up pics of the door speaker install in a sec, youll love this.

BigJoker
08-06-2008, 02:03 AM
go back and kick there ***. :violent:

GMCJimmyslt2000
08-06-2008, 02:56 AM
If u do it right you shouldn't have to use 2 screws...

tape is so so, i would have secured it with zipties as to make sure it doesn't unravel under heat. But would have rather chosen distros

And splicing, why not just heatshrink them, looks cleaner, and holds better.

you have the right to complain.

if u dont mind us asking, how much did u spend and what was included

ur totally wrong man....Taping wires instead of using a distro block=fire.
Well they spliced, which is ok, but why didnt they just cut the wire to length.
Cutting into ur ac without asking, is so wrong and illegal.
The ground is not ok if they didnt sand away the paint but i dont see a problem with double screws, but properly installed, they shouldnt need to do that.

i would def take it back and demand either full refund or they fix there mistakes.
if they dont, i would def get intouch wiht BBB

wokeupquick
08-06-2008, 03:13 AM
Why wouldn't you just do it yourself in the first place? 500 dollars is a gripload of cash for something you could do/learn to do in a few days.

GMCJimmyslt2000
08-06-2008, 03:30 AM
not everyone has the knowlege nor the time to do there own install
but it seems like he knows a lilttle about it.

just read up but forsure go back and raise hell

Black Truck 10
08-06-2008, 04:12 AM
I was 16, and I figured since I got a new truck I better let a "pro" install it for me. This is the result, and I honestly would not of known this unless I took my truck apart like im doing right now.

Do yall think I have a valid argument to get them to replace my ac piping on the floor of the truck at their expense? It was about 4-5 years ago, and they never asked me if they can just cut off my ac pipe. What do yall think. I want to see what options I have before I go over there and raise hell tomorrow evening.

TSGP
08-06-2008, 02:23 PM
the double screws is to keep the ground from twisting.

If you just use 1 screw through the hole in the terminal it is still able to twist...2 screws = no twisting and no loosening up

the tape i'd raise hell over

most shops don't use shrink wrap...and whats the difference in shrink wrapping and using crimp caps? at least the caps is wire to wire with a piece of metal holding them together.

Rashaddd
08-06-2008, 02:29 PM
500 bucks for that? Jesus thats like a 20 dollar install at best. (not including parts, so maybe 50)

fbi90909
08-06-2008, 02:42 PM
what i want to know is that yellow wire used as speaker wire? is it flat flat? looks like something i'd be interested in for my install since i run my speaker wires in the center point of my carpet.

Black Truck 10
08-06-2008, 03:35 PM
Ill sell it to you then if your interested in mine. Ill measure how much I have once I get home and let you know.

Black Truck 10
08-07-2008, 01:42 AM
Here is what was under the electrical tape.
http://i308.photobucket.com/albums/kk331/Black_Truck_10/DSC01730.jpg

http://i308.photobucket.com/albums/kk331/Black_Truck_10/DSC01732.jpg

I will officially begin deadening the truck tomorrow evening! Im really excited, i have been cleaning and prepping the truck since. More pictures up tomorrow evening!

car_lost
08-07-2008, 10:14 AM
If the install was 4-5 years ago, I think its a little late to go and complain.

jdc753
08-07-2008, 10:24 AM
WOW thats insane that they would do that. I thought it was ghetto when I used a conduit bolt and a ton of splicing compound to connect 4 8awg in with a 8awg and 4aw out once.

I agree if its been that long then not much you can do about it, unless maybe you can prove it 100% that they did it and such which will be really hard.

Looking forward to the rest of the build and clean up. Should come out pretty sweet :)

Black Truck 10
08-07-2008, 10:41 AM
Ya I doubt ill say anything, ill just do my best to show the world their type of work and try to lose them as much business as I can. I really am so embarassed I paid for this garbage. Im kinda hoping there place burns down, or just something negative haha! Kidding, but in all honesty it *****!

bigbangtheory
08-07-2008, 12:59 PM
Yeah they should have deffintley used a distro block there and one more screw to keep it from twisting.

The speaker wires are fine IMHO.

I have been screwed out of 500 dollars before on an install because I physically couldn't do it.

Well back in some shape now and refuse to ever let a shope screw me again.

TSGP
08-07-2008, 07:39 PM
even if it was 5 years ago, they will have your install on file if they are any kind of decent shop.

I'd go back and tell them you were pulling it out and found that stuff, and you paid for a top notch install. At least raise some level of hell with them and show them the pics you have.

If the owner isn't there, ask for him or his phone number or when he'll be back. If I was the owner I'd want to know if my installers were making mistakes like the tape with the wire, thats bs

ultimate157
08-07-2008, 08:59 PM
Your truck is a 2005. This is mid 2008. How is the install 5 years old?

Black Truck 10
08-07-2008, 10:06 PM
Its a 2004 that I bought in late december of 03, the install was early 04, I said 4-5 years I thought?

Tehgregzor
08-07-2008, 10:11 PM
Wow..just horrible. I'm sorry about that man, i hope you can throw some **** fit and maybe get some of your money. You guys gotta remember that he got a discount cause he paid in cash...probably means they didn't write down a single thing.

ultimate157
08-08-2008, 09:51 AM
Its a 2004 that I bought in late december of 03, the install was early 04, I said 4-5 years I thought?

Makes sense. :)


Good luck fixing all that mess :(

Fusion_FREAK
08-08-2008, 10:05 AM
That *****. I'd raise hell, but it seems too late to do that.

And they most likely have no file of the job because you paid cash.

Black Truck 10
08-08-2008, 10:31 AM
I that is what I was thinking about them not having information on my install. I would probably end up making a fool of myself. Ill look around salvage yards since that plastic piece cant be all that popular.

I have learned my lesson though, which I guess is what life is about. (wow, sounds kinda deep)

SilverSquared
08-08-2008, 10:48 AM
Print the pics, put them on a big poster that says "Example of their TOP NOTCH Installs" and go put it in front the biz, lmao. I have personally seen that done before...funny as hell.

Black Truck 10
08-08-2008, 11:15 AM
haha with my luck ill get sued for slander or liable or something. I contemplate putting up a website though, but fear it do to the being sued aspect.

wilson
08-08-2008, 11:23 AM
****, I was looking at getting some DD's from them, as they're one of the few dealers in the area. Looks like I'll be driving down to Clear Lake instead...

G/L with your install from a fellow F150 owner (2006) and Texan :wave:

Black Truck 10
08-08-2008, 11:57 AM
****, I was looking at getting some DD's from them, as they're one of the few dealers in the area. Looks like I'll be driving down to Clear Lake instead...

G/L with your install from a fellow F150 owner (2006) and Texan :wave:

I wouldnt just because Im really sore at them right now. You just dont do things this way, especially when your putting your name on the install. Best of luck with you though.

Ps. I almost put 2 1508's in my truck. . .

dwright27
08-08-2008, 12:46 PM
wow. is all i can say.

twistedmind
08-08-2008, 09:25 PM
one texan to another, id contact DD, show them what their "authorized dealer and installers"

are doing and get DD to tell them thanks but we will find a quality shop to pander our goods. If I was DD I wouldn't want my product associated with that ****

Seven71ne
08-11-2008, 02:08 AM
listen, the reason they made you pay cash (cheaper) was so they can get in, and get out, they dont give a rats *** about you, they just want quick sales. Alot of shops do that, if you pay credit, debit, check, you have proof that they did a ****** job, then you can get them introuble, and theyd have to refund, but i honestly doubt they kept you on file.

The Shops around here make you pay cash when they do a "Full" % of tint on your car, only because when you get pulled over, and you say, i paid so and so a check to do this and if there a business they can get in trouble. If you pay in cash, they can deny every little bit of it, and act like it never happend.

Shops are a bunch of bs, (not the good ones, but the ones who try to screw people over) and sometimes there your only resorce... so dont feel bad, atleast your doing it yourself now.

Black Truck 10
08-11-2008, 02:28 AM
real talk right there.

Question though, When doing an amp rack if its a box, and I run fans the fans dont have to directly be blowing over the amps correct? I planned on just running4-6 fans constantly bringing in cold air to the box and exhausting warm air out of the box. I am in a bind in my install right now trying to build my amp rack! and how im gonna lift up my rear seats.ill post my updated pictures tomorrow night, I just realised I havent put up any updated photos!

BKH
08-11-2008, 03:37 AM
They don't have to blow directly on the amps. I built a plexi covered amp rack for a Camaro with fans in one end and an intake on the other. Worked great. Just some circulation is all you need.

Black Truck 10
08-12-2008, 01:24 AM
I finished laying my raammat bxt on the floor. Ill probably start ensolite here soon.

http://i308.photobucket.com/albums/kk331/Black_Truck_10/DSC01772.jpg

http://i308.photobucket.com/albums/kk331/Black_Truck_10/DSC01773.jpg


I threw down some sheet metal in my atempt to seal up as much as I can. This was difficult thought with all my wire I had going everywhere. Being its my first time, I think I did alright there. Riviting went well, and I threw down alot of caulk to seal up the edges. The raammat bxt should take care of most of the rest!

http://i308.photobucket.com/albums/kk331/Black_Truck_10/DSC01774.jpg

Black Truck 10
08-15-2008, 08:17 PM
Fixed the air vent issue, took some time but happy its done, Fiberglass wont stick to plastic to I just rivetied the fiberglass to it. Ill seal it up later before I install, and I might paint it even though I wont ever see it.


http://i308.photobucket.com/albums/kk331/Black_Truck_10/DSC01777.jpg



http://i308.photobucket.com/albums/kk331/Black_Truck_10/DSC01775.jpg

Black Truck 10
08-15-2008, 08:19 PM
Also got around to making my seat extenders for the rear of my wall, I should have my amp rack installed by tomorrow evening, and I should have the truck put back together by tuesday! Excited.

http://i308.photobucket.com/albums/kk331/Black_Truck_10/DSC01778.jpg

http://i308.photobucket.com/albums/kk331/Black_Truck_10/DSC01781.jpg

clubcar13
08-16-2008, 02:52 AM
Also got around to making my seat extenders for the rear of my wall, I should have my amp rack installed by tomorrow evening, and I should have the truck put back together by tuesday! Excited.

http://i308.photobucket.com/albums/kk331/Black_Truck_10/DSC01778.jpg

http://i308.photobucket.com/albums/kk331/Black_Truck_10/DSC01781.jpg

Lookin good man. I have the exact same truck and actually i took my seat off again today and looking at those pics, that is a very good idea and i might do it becasue I want to put some mdf behind my amps that are on the wall..... but I see something wrong. that piece that goes over the seat belt thing wont look right on there and it wont fit right. I know that you can see on the leather where that thing was sitting for so long. Anyways. good luck and tell me how it comes out. I might do this. also, wont it be a little uncomfortable for the people in the back? Straight back haha

Black Truck 10
08-16-2008, 03:41 PM
Ill see how it looks, and if it doesnt look right I can just get some steel extenders for it that wont be any bending just straight cuts so that shouldnt be to big of an issue. My issue is the rer seatbelt for the middle seat is right in the middle of the back wall so this seat extender should clear that...I hope

DBfan187
09-06-2008, 07:56 PM
updates?

azbass
09-06-2008, 08:07 PM
trucks are easy to ground in as you can pretty much drill a hole through the floor near the outer
edges of the floor. sand the area to metal, then through bolt the ground down. then silicone it, what I have always done.

and when we mounted amps under the seat where the vent was, we would trim if necessary, but also cover the vent opening, so it would not blow hot air on the amp when the heat was on.

Black Truck 10
10-21-2008, 11:37 PM
Sorry I do have updates but ill put them on when I take pictures which I will do sunday.

My Mags are being delivered to me tomorrow, and I will make the box sunday. Took forever since I ordered them back in mid june. haha 4 month turnaround. . . yikes. But in their defense they were being made when I bought them so they didnt actually have them. Then there was lots of sketchy shipping junk that happened.

I did build my amp rack and I plan on putting my cover on and finishing that sunday too!