PDA

View Full Version : So I installed my W7 and....



dumpin907
07-06-2008, 05:32 PM
i made the box to JL specs on their website. which called for 1.75 cubes at ~32hz. im giving this 12 w7 is required amount of power, ~750 RMS and it doesnt seem like the output is where it should be. i think that this sub would have more output in the H.O box designed for it but i dont know why? i've heard the w7 12 in the H.O box before and it seemed louder. whats so special about the H.O box and why does it seem like the w7 is louder in it? and yes, my box is almost 100% accurate w/ cuts and port area and what not. anyone on here have this same problem?

and no, i cant upload pics right now, at work FTL

ThatChevyGuy
07-06-2008, 05:34 PM
you playin songs in that range?
try some gucci mane and gorilla zoe.

spark plugs.
07-06-2008, 05:35 PM
i might be wrong, but i thought their H.O. boxes were bigger than 1.75 cu. ft.

Blados
07-06-2008, 05:35 PM
Did you adjust your gains? Is everything wired correctly?

grassroots
07-06-2008, 05:36 PM
what amp/amps?

dumpin907
07-06-2008, 05:42 PM
well my amp is the zx 2500.1....running at 3 ohms of course, and yes i set my gains. im giving this sub the right amount of power thats no question. and yes i think the H.O box is bigger the 1.75 but their website says 1.75 for the w7 and my box is probably like 2.0 cubes.

i kinda think they put a bad box reccomendation on their site so that when you make the box it doesnt sound as good as their H.O box so that you go buy their H.O box for like 300$ cause they are stingy like that (3ohm single coil) and and their 1000/1 plays at 1-4 ohm loads so you have to buy their amp kinda gimik thing

dumpin907
07-06-2008, 05:52 PM
their H.O box is 4.3 cubes external....maybe my box is too small

LOW ET
07-06-2008, 05:57 PM
how much different does it sound compared to the one you're comparing it to? are you sure you're comparing it to the same speaker not a 13w7 or something? and i'm sure you know everything sounds different in different cars. there's many variables you have to look at system setup wise. maybe your hopes were set to high because of all the hype?

dumpin907
07-06-2008, 06:02 PM
how much different does it sound compared to the one you're comparing it to? are you sure you're comparing it to the same speaker not a 13w7 or something? and i'm sure you know everything sounds different in different cars. there's many variables you have to look at system setup wise. maybe your hopes were set to high because of all the hype?

well dont get me wrong, i wasnt expecting a SPL subs output like my atomic apx15 in 6 cubes (after displacements) with 2500 watts. i knew it would be nothing like it cause its a SQ woofer. the bass is really clean and hits pretty good. my friends think its decently loud but i have heard a w7 12 in the H.O box in a extended cab truck and it sounded louder than mine does it my jeep (hella more airspace). so i donno what the deal is... maybe im just used to SPL subs that make my doors flex? and it was like 4 months ago when i heard the W7, before i had my APX so maybe thats why i think it was loud?

dumpin907
07-06-2008, 06:04 PM
the H.O box is 4.3 cubes and they reccomend 1.75 cubes after displacement if you wanna build your own box which doesnt make sense to me... i think they give a bad enclousure reccomendation on their site so that you wanna go buy the H.O box that your friends have you know? fvckin JL

dumpin907
07-06-2008, 06:11 PM
any suggestions?

LOW ET
07-06-2008, 06:13 PM
have you talked with any shops about this? check and see what they say about jl's boxes.

hoss
07-06-2008, 06:15 PM
any suggestions?
sell it and buy something worthwhile.

dumpin907
07-06-2008, 06:17 PM
have you talked with any shops about this? check and see what they say about jl's boxes.

i just tried callin JL tech line but they are closed, as are most of the local shops here in alaska, (all 3) and they all **** JL's **** all day. everytime i go in there they are talkin about how JL w7 is the best woofer ever made and all this BS. but ill see what they say tomorrow when they are open.

dumpin907
07-06-2008, 06:18 PM
sell it and buy something worthwhile.

yeah, by no means am i a **** rider when it comes to JL, i rec'd this sub on a trade. the only way i would buy one is if it was stolen and being sold for dirt cheap.

Chevyboy10
07-06-2008, 06:22 PM
not getting enough power.....kicker i think is not legit watts JL 1000/1 or the new 750/1 is legit power try to upgrade to new HD 750/1?

zack39648
07-06-2008, 06:24 PM
you shoulda got my type x would have blew that ish out the water!

dumpin907
07-06-2008, 06:24 PM
not getting enough power.....kicker i think is not legit watts JL 1000/1 or the new 750/1 is legit power try to upgrade to new HD 750/1?

how am i not giving it enough power? i have a 2500 watts RMS @ 2 ohm amp....i know i can get atleast 750 watts RMS at 3 ohms.

ThatChevyGuy
07-06-2008, 06:25 PM
not getting enough power.....kicker i think is not legit watts JL 1000/1 or the new 750/1 is legit power try to upgrade to new HD 750/1?

Dont listen to him
Now, how much port area does the box have?

Chevyboy10
07-06-2008, 06:25 PM
i just tried calling JL tech line but they are closed, as are most of the local shops here in alaska, (all 3) and they all **** JL's **** all day. every time i go in there they are talkin about how JL w7 is the best woofer ever made and all this BS. but ill see what they say tomorrow when they are open.

also if jl wasn't a great woofer and company why does everyone compare theres to it? everyone knows its not spl but SQ is were audio should be at. and i would compare my 3 13.5 W6 to any subs any day and see who's overall is better :)
JL is the only way to go
people just cant afford great equipment so they have to complain.... its not like there going out of business because people keep buying whats good.

Cravingbass123
07-06-2008, 06:26 PM
not getting enough power.....kicker i think is not legit watts JL 1000/1 or the new 750/1 is legit power try to upgrade to new HD 750/1?

yoooooooooo are retarded

dumpin907
07-06-2008, 06:26 PM
you shoulda got my type x would have blew that ish out the water!

haha yeah dude but i can flip this sub so fast if i wanted to. Alaska dont know ish about subs besides name brand main stream BS. JL MTX ALPINE.

dumpin907
07-06-2008, 06:27 PM
Dont listen to him
Now, how much port area does the box have?

from what i remember i think 25 sq inches

ThatChevyGuy
07-06-2008, 06:28 PM
Yeah see not enough to get loud
Try 2 cubes INTERNAL with 35 in^2 at 32
im sure im off jl's rec's, but it will be loud.

zack39648
07-06-2008, 06:28 PM
haha yeah dude but i can flip this sub so fast if i wanted to. Alaska dont know ish about subs besides name brand main stream BS. JL MTX ALPINE.

i feel ya it has a nice home now only about 3 hours away :) hope you get that jl slammin GL

PS> ****in kidney stones **** sooo bad .

Chevyboy10
07-06-2008, 06:34 PM
yoooooooooo are retarded

how am i retarded? honestly everyone compares their product
"oh ours is better than JL ,,,,, JLs ****.."
but no one can prove better SQ with SPL than them

DaGh0st
07-06-2008, 06:36 PM
not getting enough power.....kicker i think is not legit watts JL 1000/1 or the new 750/1 is legit power try to upgrade to new HD 750/1?

This made me LOL!

Thank you sir.

OP: Try a bigger box and see what happens...

dumpin907
07-06-2008, 06:37 PM
Yeah see not enough to get loud
Try 2 cubes INTERNAL with 35 in^2 at 32
im sure im off jl's rec's, but it will be loud.

yeah i gota try somethin out. jl rec's 1.75 internal at 33ish but their H.O box is about 3.4 external at 44ish. so i donno whats up with that but i went off their rec's and it was FTL.

kovemaster559
07-06-2008, 06:38 PM
JL SUX /Tread




































i say 3 cuft after displace at 40sqin at 30 hz would be awesome on a 13.5 jl dub7

dumpin907
07-06-2008, 06:39 PM
This made me LOL!

Thank you sir.

OP: Try a bigger box and see what happens...

haha it made me fvckin confused like what? am I the retarded one here? i have a 2500.1 @ 2ohm amp i think i can get 750 @ 3ohms no prob. yeah ill build a new box this this bastard and see whats up. so about 3 cubes external at 33ish?

dumpin907
07-06-2008, 06:41 PM
[QUOTE=kovemaster559;4848799]JL SUX /Tread

wether or not JL ***** is not the issue. i apppreciate the opinion tho. as you may have read im not the one saying JL is the best manufactures out there. im just tryin to figure out why this box is not working out for me.

Brian_smith06
07-06-2008, 06:46 PM
also if jl wasn't a great woofer and company why does everyone compare theres to it? everyone knows its not spl but SQ is were audio should be at. and i would compare my 3 13.5 W6 to any subs any day and see who's overall is better :)
JL is the only way to go
people just cant afford great equipment so they have to complain.... its not like there going out of business because people keep buying whats good.

most people compare their stuff to jl due to everybody knowing the name.

by no means am i calling jl ish(i own a 1000/1) but they are not always the answer

Savstyle
07-06-2008, 06:50 PM
not getting enough power.....kicker i think is not legit watts JL 1000/1 or the new 750/1 is legit power try to upgrade to new HD 750/1?

:wow:

Say what?

Profilepower is that you???

If you didnt understand im calling you a *******


also if jl wasn't a great woofer and company why does everyone compare theres to it? everyone knows its not spl but SQ is were audio should be at. and i would compare my 3 13.5 W6 to any subs any day and see who's overall is better :)
JL is the only way to go
people just cant afford great equipment so they have to complain.... its not like there going out of business because people keep buying whats good.


JL makes great equipment no doubt.

But

The best? i dont think so.

Not in any category

OP: box is to small and not enough port area:)

Build a bigger box and get it bumpin man and you should be getting enough power out of that kicker without a prob

dumpin907
07-06-2008, 06:57 PM
:wow:

Say what?

Profilepower is that you???

If you didnt understand im calling you a *******




JL makes great equipment no doubt.

But

The best? i dont think so.

Not in any category

OP: box is to small and not enough port area:)

Build a bigger box and get it bumpin man and you should be getting enough power out of that kicker without a prob

yeah bigger box will be in progress soon. thats what i get from listenin to JL. ill tryin 3.5 external at 34 or so.

dumpin907
07-06-2008, 06:59 PM
this little w7 12 moves alot of air for a 12. the little 2 inch wide port is not nearly big enough.

LOW ET
07-06-2008, 07:00 PM
1.75" wide

dumpin907
07-06-2008, 07:01 PM
1.75" wide

yeah still hella small

Savstyle
07-06-2008, 07:02 PM
yeah bigger box will be in progress soon. thats what i get from listenin to JL. ill tryin 3.5 external at 34 or so.

if my friend get on im somtime soon ill ask him what his specs were and pm them to you. His was very loud but he also gave his 1500rms.IIRC it was 2.8 after displacement tuned to 28.

Best w7 setup i had heard.

Ill try to get in touch him and get specs.

kovemaster559
07-06-2008, 07:03 PM
i say 3cuft after displacement and 40sqin port. then JL doesnt ****

delvryboy
07-06-2008, 07:09 PM
definitely need some legit watts. i have a bottle here, make me an offer.

dumpin907
07-06-2008, 07:09 PM
if my friend get on im somtime soon ill ask him what his specs were and pm them to you. His was very loud but he also gave his 1500rms.IIRC it was 2.8 after displacement tuned to 28.

Best w7 setup i had heard.

Ill try to get in touch him and get specs.

ok thanks bro. are you sure he gave 1500 rms? did you clamp it? im fvckin around on the RE box design site. im at 3.3 cubes at 33hz w/ 43.5 square port area. how does that sound guys?

dumpin907
07-06-2008, 07:11 PM
definitely need some legit watts. i have a bottle here, make me an offer.

what are you talkin bout?

delvryboy
07-06-2008, 07:11 PM
ok thanks bro. are you sure he gave 1500 rms? did you clamp it? im fvckin around on the RE box design site. im at 3.3 cubes at 33hz w/ 43.5 square port area. how does that sound guys?

that's alot of port area. i would do about 3 cubes/32-35" of port tuned around 32-35hz.

delvryboy
07-06-2008, 07:12 PM
what are you talkin bout?

sarcasm to the guy who said your amp was not enough power. your amp @ 3ohm is more than enough.

dumpin907
07-06-2008, 07:13 PM
that's alot of port area. i would do about 3 cubes/32-35" of port tuned around 32-35hz.

hmmm 2.9 cubes at 33hz w/ 33 port area

delvryboy
07-06-2008, 07:16 PM
make the internal height 16" and make the port 2x16..... or if you are looking to go less on the height , 2.5x14

dumpin907
07-06-2008, 07:16 PM
sarcasm to the guy who said your amp was not enough power. your amp @ 3ohm is more than enough.

oh yeah dude i was like wtf retard get outta here. go bump your sony xplod system

dumpin907
07-06-2008, 07:18 PM
make the internal height 16" and make the port 2x16..... or if you are looking to go less on the height , 2.5x14

yea i just changed it.. 2.9 @32 w/ 33 in" sq port. sound about right?

Savstyle
07-06-2008, 07:19 PM
ok thanks bro. are you sure he gave 1500 rms? did you clamp it? im fvckin around on the RE box design site. im at 3.3 cubes at 33hz w/ 43.5 square port area. how does that sound guys?

Indeed

Clamped 14xx dont remember what it was.

W7's can take a decent amount of power. He certainly pushed it to a breaking point.

dumpin907
07-06-2008, 07:22 PM
Indeed

Clamped 14xx dont remember what it was.

W7's can take a decent amount of power. He certainly pushed it to a breaking point.

yeah, i havent clamped mine but i set my gains right before i heard distortion so its probably around optimum RMS, im not clippin this amp at 3ohms thats for sure.

dumpin907
07-06-2008, 07:25 PM
man im pissed, i put time into this box, bondo,rounded edges/corners, more sanding, paint and everything. its really clean lookin. its a good box for a type r 12 tho. ~2.0 @33ish

LOW ET
07-06-2008, 07:26 PM
sell it

dman4486
07-06-2008, 07:28 PM
I can't help but laugh at chevyboy....

as stated before, JL is well known and this is the reason they are used in comparisons.

dumpin907
07-06-2008, 07:28 PM
sell it

fegs here would rather buy a prefab at bestbuy.

mokedaddy
07-06-2008, 07:30 PM
not getting enough power.....kicker i think is not legit watts JL 1000/1 or the new 750/1 is legit power try to upgrade to new HD 750/1?


also if jl wasn't a great woofer and company why does everyone compare theres to it? everyone knows its not spl but SQ is were audio should be at. and i would compare my 3 13.5 W6 to any subs any day and see who's overall is better :)
JL is the only way to go
people just cant afford great equipment so they have to complain.... its not like there going out of business because people keep buying whats good.

:eyebrow::hilariou::rolleyes:

dumpin907
07-06-2008, 07:30 PM
I can't help but laugh at chevyboy....

as stated before, JL is well known and this is the reason they are used in comparisons.

yeah he should have kept his false knowledge in his head.

anyway, i wanna thank you all for the help and suggestions. and thanks for not calling me a feg for running a JL driver at the moment.