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skittlesRgood
07-03-2008, 02:04 AM
my car is an 06 buick rendezvous. im pretty sure im the only retard to fix up one of these lol. i have the front doors deadened with 1 layer of dynamat and a real thick coat of spectrum sludge. ill get pics of that up later. all the specs on my car are in my sig.

video is b4 the big 3 and second battery. it has gotten louder.
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skittlesRgood
07-03-2008, 02:14 AM
i plan on making a new box soon. the new box will be up firing. im thinking subs on the left and an amp rack on the right with a glass top. im also going to make a wood top that i can place on top of the box to keep everything hidden and make the trunk functional again.

bigbangtheory
07-03-2008, 07:05 PM
Not to shabby, but I would have sealed those subs myself. They seem to perform better in a sealed enviroment, but I am sure they wang chung tonight in there as well.

Need to clean up the back some as well................and your right, I think you are the only person that would fix one of those up. I hate those myself, but nice equipment.

skittlesRgood
07-04-2008, 12:26 AM
ya it still is a little messy. thats one reason why i want to make a new box and the amp rack. ill make it all look clean soon enough. just need to plan it out.

ya i didnt like the car much but its roomy, all wheel drive and has tons of space for my subs and snowboard/paintball gear. the more i do to it the more i like it.

skittlesRgood
07-15-2008, 07:27 PM
got myself an SPL meter. i hit 146db on a song. might get that up on a burp and a better charge.

skittlesRgood
08-17-2008, 09:05 PM
just got 1st place in street B class DB drag race.

path2spl
08-17-2008, 11:29 PM
what meter?

blackman
08-17-2008, 11:33 PM
I like the rendevous....my unc has one and omg....i love it...

thegreatestpenn
08-17-2008, 11:35 PM
nice, but hide those wires better

skittlesRgood
09-11-2008, 05:52 PM
http://www.caraudio.com/gallery/4/9/9/6/7/DSC00233_thumb.jpg

http://www.caraudio.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=9735&catid=member&imageuser=49967

http://www.caraudio.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=9734&catid=member&imageuser=49967

made a smaller sealed box so i can use my trunk and hide the subs. it sounds a little tighter now but it was WAY louder with the ported box. with the old box i had the subs turned down to -12 on the HU. now im at -4 to get the same sound.

just wanted to update.

skittlesRgood
09-27-2008, 05:10 AM
got my mechman 250amp alt installed!

bigbangtheory
09-27-2008, 08:10 AM
Cool deals mang! What meter where you using when you won you comp?

skittlesRgood
09-27-2008, 08:09 PM
TL meter. official DB drag. working on a new set up now. 2 12" RE SX subs with about 1200w a piece.

Rawr-DQ
09-27-2008, 08:21 PM
What else are you doing to the buick, got and pics of what's going down?

skittlesRgood
09-28-2008, 01:05 AM
not too much rite now. ill try to find the pics of the deadened doors. going to do a fiberglass box with a snowboard theme once i figure out how lol. just confused on how to make the frame for what i want to do. anyone good with that stuff that wants to help me out?

dwright27
09-28-2008, 03:28 AM
wall that ish :P

skittlesRgood
09-28-2008, 03:29 AM
lol, thought about it. wont work too well in my daily driver though. or for the snowboard trips.

dwright27
09-28-2008, 03:39 AM
lol, thought about it. wont work too well in my daily driver though. or for the snowboard trips.

why not wall behind the 2nd row seats or something?? 3 12's :D

skittlesRgood
09-28-2008, 05:11 PM
a wall for 3 12"s? come on now. i could fit 8 12"s in the back of the 2nd row if i really wanted to.

skittlesRgood
01-05-2009, 12:02 AM
its been a long time since i updated this but im working on a fiberglass box for my RE SXs. wanted to see what you all thought.

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd185/skittlesRgood182/P1000901.jpg
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only about half of the 1st layer of glass done here.
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and a random one.
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd185/skittlesRgood182/P1000897.jpg

im up to my second layer of glass now. this is going to take a while. this is my 1st time fiberglassing anything.

skittlesRgood
01-05-2009, 06:38 PM
bump

Mr. Slate
01-05-2009, 07:33 PM
Pretty good so far.

jdawg
01-05-2009, 07:40 PM
how do you measure volume and know what size to make the port, esp since you had it made without any cloth on it

skittlesRgood
01-05-2009, 10:18 PM
its not exact. i just calculated for a wedge type box. then i made the subs sit higher to add a little more space to make up for the curve of the cloth. it should come out pretty even. ill admit itll be more for looks but i did make it to good specs so it should do well.

i have to hold off my 3rd layer cause its been raining.

Mr.P
01-05-2009, 11:13 PM
looks fing awesome :)


fiberglass me something...lol build me a center console, fiberglass my roof for bracing!!! :D

i wish i had the balls to try some glassing...i just get too ****ed impatient...


should look awesome man :)

outspoken
01-05-2009, 11:16 PM
looks good man... i'm thinking of doing some glassing for my hertz tweets, maybe we can check it out this weekend... also we'll get the bondo dialed in man...

skittlesRgood
01-05-2009, 11:21 PM
i dont think itll be bondo time for a while. i still have 4-7 layers of glass to put on. i wanted to do 10 layers but i think ill be stoping at 5-7. this crap takes a long time. and costs a lot. but a little tweeter pod? shoot we can do that with my leftovers easy.

jdawg
01-05-2009, 11:25 PM
I figured you pretty much took an educated guess, when its done you could fill it with peanuts or something and that would be pretty close, maybe should have used aeroports so after you figured the volume closer you could adjust the ports. Looks really nice though.

skittlesRgood
01-05-2009, 11:34 PM
aeroports were my 1st idea but i went with a regular port for some reason. didnt want to deal with cutting more little rings and figuring out how to support them while i glassed.

hope it looks good when im done. found out my buddy here is good with bondo and paint, a skill i dont have. so i have some hope of this looking nice.

SiLkK
01-05-2009, 11:42 PM
Looks good

WOT
01-05-2009, 11:46 PM
This is just a ****ing waste of equipment right here. You have NO IDEA what the tune is of that box, no idea. You guessed? **** dude go in Winisd and plug in some numbers and see how a few points of c/ft of volume change the port dimensions.

This is just a plain old waste of good equipment and potential

Like someone said, you should have built it sealed, fill it with packing peanuts to get volume, then spent the $50 on a beautiful aeroport

WOT
01-05-2009, 11:48 PM
And btw- its gonna sound like ish compared to a speced setup

The base of your box is cool though?? Ya I'll give ya that

skittlesRgood
01-05-2009, 11:54 PM
well 1st off. **** you. second, its pretty **** close to what i wanted it. it wasnt a guess. ive been building boxes for a while now, i know what im doing. and **** winisd, that program blows. if you know how to do math you dont need a program.

dont tell me what i do and dont know about my own work. you were not here when i designed it. you dont know any thought that went into building this. dont come on here acting like an *** hole for no good reason.

memphisman
01-06-2009, 12:02 AM
Looks really nice!!! I love seein people do fiberglass.

skittlesRgood
01-06-2009, 12:09 AM
thank you. i dont think ill be glassing much after this. takes a lot more money than i expected.

jdawg
01-06-2009, 12:13 AM
really if you know what you are doing and have exp you can get it pretty **** close, maybe the tuning freq is off a few one way or the other, most of the time you cant tell the difference

skittlesRgood
01-06-2009, 12:27 AM
thank you jdawg. it may be off by 1hz +/- but like you said, wouldnt be able to tell a differance anyway.

sorry if i over reacted but im putting a lot of time and money into this and that really pissed me off.

jdawg
01-06-2009, 12:32 AM
meh dont let a douche bother you

looks good

WOT
01-06-2009, 11:23 AM
No, it wont be off by 1 hz dude, the difference will be huge. And yes you can hear the difference 5 hz in tune will do and can put a sub WELL out of sounding good and using it to its potential. Fill that port and put an aero in there, ur not far into the build yet.

Do it properly

You just wanted a "cool" looking box

WOT
01-06-2009, 11:25 AM
Just curious, how much air space do you think you exactly have?

skittlesRgood
01-06-2009, 07:11 PM
no i did the math and i know im not WAY far off.

it should be at 4cuft. tell you what, when im done ill fill it up and if its way off you can laugh at me and say "i told you so".

skittlesRgood
03-01-2009, 02:29 PM
its been a really long time but i have an update. subs go in today. paint comes later.

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wasted ink
03-01-2009, 02:46 PM
WAY too much resin. When there is too much resin in any fiberglass piece, the strength the fiberglass WOULD have slowly decreases, as resin is very brittle by itself. The lack of reinforcement makes cracking almost inevitable.

Also, you should do all of your fiberglass layers in one sitting, and use MINIMAL resin, just enough to wet the mat out. A roller helps with this. If you absolutely MUST do your layers in different sittings, sand the dried layer before applying more mat.

What weight mat did you use? What brand/type of resin? How many layers? I would be very skeptical about using alot of power in that box. I would add layers around the insides of the rings for extra strength.

Edit: Lot's of air bubbles, as well. These are weak points in fiberglass, grind them out and fill them with glass (correctly) or with a fiberglass reinforced body filler, like Duraglass or Kitty Hair.

IDSkoT
03-01-2009, 02:53 PM
This is just a ****ing waste of equipment right here. You have NO IDEA what the tune is of that box, no idea. You guessed? **** dude go in Winisd and plug in some numbers and see how a few points of c/ft of volume change the port dimensions.

This is just a plain old waste of good equipment and potential

Like someone said, you should have built it sealed, fill it with packing peanuts to get volume, then spent the $50 on a beautiful aeroport

lolz, last time I checked you didn't know how to do the big 3, yet alone build a proper box. What OP did is somewhat common practice when making a FG enclosure. You can never be perfect, just try to get something to aim at... and if somethings off, he can alter it.


No, it wont be off by 1 hz dude, the difference will be huge. And yes you can hear the difference 5 hz in tune will do and can put a sub WELL out of sounding good and using it to its potential. Fill that port and put an aero in there, ur not far into the build yet.

Do it properly

You just wanted a "cool" looking box

Even if he uses an aero, he'd still be guessing the space, and would probably get the same tune :laugh:

Fiercetimbo17
03-01-2009, 03:12 PM
Idskot i agree, WOT you still call car audio ICE, quit being a ***.

But OP you are no where near painting that ****, you need alota body filler and alot of sanding. You might be painting next week lol

But a good way to measure volume of a fiberglass enclosure is use something like packing peanuts, get a 12x12x12 cardboard box and pour the peanuts in it to get a reasonable guess.

wasted ink
03-01-2009, 03:15 PM
But OP you are no where near painting that ****, you need alota body filler and alot of sanding. You might be painting next week lol

But a good way to measure volume of a fiberglass enclosure is use something like packing peanuts, get a 12x12x12 cardboard box and pour the peanuts in it to get a reasonable guess.

True that. And props for calling it body filler instead of "Bondo." That bugs me **** out of me.

Another good way of measuring volume is using the beans out of a beanbag chair.

skittlesRgood
03-01-2009, 03:22 PM
WAY too much resin. When there is too much resin in any fiberglass piece, the strength the fiberglass WOULD have slowly decreases, as resin is very brittle by itself. The lack of reinforcement makes cracking almost inevitable.

Also, you should do all of your fiberglass layers in one sitting, and use MINIMAL resin, just enough to wet the mat out. A roller helps with this. If you absolutely MUST do your layers in different sittings, sand the dried layer before applying more mat.

What weight mat did you use? What brand/type of resin? How many layers? I would be very skeptical about using alot of power in that box. I would add layers around the insides of the rings for extra strength.

Edit: Lot's of air bubbles, as well. These are weak points in fiberglass, grind them out and fill them with glass (correctly) or with a fiberglass reinforced body filler, like Duraglass or Kitty Hair.

i did notice these problems. the last few layers are a lot better than the 1st few. i got a lot better with the air bubbles. i didnt have a roller. i didnt find out about using one till i was almost done. i did put a little glass on the inside of the rings. also glassed the dowels in place. i have another gallon of resin left over so i had planed on adding more later. its been raining every day and i just wanted to get it in the car so i could hear it.

think another layer or 2 done better would save it? i have layed on it and it felt solid.

this is my 1st time touching fiberglass and i knew all along that failure was an option.

wasted ink
03-01-2009, 03:24 PM
i did notice these problems. the last few layers are a lot better than the 1st few. i got a lot better with the air bubbles. i didnt have a roller. i didnt find out about using one till i was almost done. i did put a little glass on the inside of the rings. also glassed the dowels in place. i have another gallon of resin left over so i had planed on adding more later. its been raining every day and i just wanted to get it in the car so i could hear it.

think another layer or 2 done better would save it? i have layed on it and it felt solid.

this is my 1st time touching fiberglass and i knew all along that failure was an option.

If you can stand on it, it should be ok, I just wanted to stress the reinforcement around the rings. I have heard/seen horror stories of rings detatching after seeing power for some time.

skittlesRgood
03-01-2009, 03:30 PM
Idskot i agree, WOT you still call car audio ICE, quit being a ***.

But OP you are no where near painting that ****, you need alota body filler and alot of sanding. You might be painting next week lol

But a good way to measure volume of a fiberglass enclosure is use something like packing peanuts, get a 12x12x12 cardboard box and pour the peanuts in it to get a reasonable guess.

i know i need body filler. i have a friend that knows how to do bondo and painting really well. once the glass is done i hand it over to him.

wasted ink
03-01-2009, 03:33 PM
i know i need body filler. i have a friend that knows how to do body filler and painting really well. once the glass is done i hand it over to him.

Fixed :)

skittlesRgood
03-01-2009, 03:35 PM
If you can stand on it, it should be ok, I just wanted to stress the reinforcement around the rings. I have heard/seen horror stories of rings detatching after seeing power for some time.

ya i was worried about the rings as well. ill put another layer on them just to be safe.

i used cloth and mat. i noticed the mat is much stronger. i got everything from home depot.

skittlesRgood
03-01-2009, 03:38 PM
well i wish i had this help sooner but it definatly helps. thanks a lot guys. ill find a roller and see what i can do with what i have left over.

wasted ink
03-01-2009, 03:42 PM
ya i was worried about the rings as well. ill put another layer on them just to be safe.

i used cloth and mat. i noticed the mat is much stronger. i got everything from home depot.

If you try glassing again, order your stuff from uscomposites.com.

Get B440 premium layup resin, .75z mat, a roller, etc. Then invest in a good body filler, preferably evercoat products. This will make the next project MUCH easier. I can't express how much of a difference quality products make.

Mat is generally stronger (depending on weight) than cloth because of the pattern the mat is woven into. Mat contains fibers going in all different directions, whereas the fibers in cloth go in two directions perpindicular to each other.

wasted ink
03-01-2009, 03:45 PM
well i wish i had this help sooner but it definatly helps. thanks a lot guys. ill find a roller and see what i can do with what i have left over.

If you have more questions about glassing, check out fiberglassforums.com :)

Buck
03-01-2009, 03:45 PM
How do you know how to port that box being the shape that it is?

skittlesRgood
03-01-2009, 03:49 PM
same as any other box. calculate volume then make your port.

skittlesRgood
03-01-2009, 03:50 PM
If you have more questions about glassing, check out fiberglassforums.com :)

****it ink where were you when i started this and asked for help? lol

skittlesRgood
03-01-2009, 03:51 PM
here is a little video i made. this isnt the FG box. both videos i was at 45/50, 50 being MY max b4 it starts to clip. so i could have gone a little louder.

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd185/skittlesRgood182/th_P1010032.jpg (http://s226.photobucket.com/albums/dd185/skittlesRgood182/?action=view&current=P1010032.flv)

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Buck
03-01-2009, 03:52 PM
I know but how did you find the volume? You already made the port before you put the cloth over it.

Buck
03-01-2009, 03:56 PM
My bad

skittlesRgood
03-01-2009, 03:58 PM
uh... wrong thread?

wasted ink
03-01-2009, 05:05 PM
****it ink where were you when i started this and asked for help? lol

Well now you won't be nearly as hesitant to start another fiberglassing project.

skittlesRgood
03-01-2009, 09:33 PM
oh i dont know about that lol. i dont think ill ever do a project this big again. maybe some little stuff would be fun.

what do you think of the videos?

the box is in the car and works fine. had it cranked up pretty good and it sounded the same as my MDF box. tuned a little higher so it doesnt seem to hit exactly the same on the lows but i only did one song so far. either way it sounds good.

skittlesRgood
03-05-2009, 12:57 AM
no comment on the videos?

skittlesRgood
04-17-2009, 11:53 PM
i was just playing around with some songs and a meter a while ago. i got 146db.

WOT
04-19-2009, 03:38 PM
Have any other pics during glassing or the rest of the build? Would like to see how you ended up finishing this

Any actual idea what its tuned to yet?

DB-Audio
04-19-2009, 07:57 PM
nice build so far what color are you gonna paint the box? and whats it tuned to

skittlesRgood
04-19-2009, 10:19 PM
tuned to 35hz. the box sounds amazing. i have been busy and not able to finish it. little bondo left to do. at this time i believe i am going to use truck liner. i dont want to spend more money on good paint and vinyl would be too **** hard to get it to look good.