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jdc753
07-01-2008, 10:42 AM
I know I will take some flak but I just got step 1 of 5 done in my install, and for me it was a big step. I decided a while back I wanted to run a computer in the truck and got all the components, and at the same time wanted to keep a standard HU to control the audio and radio and keep things simple. This required moving around a bunch of things in the dash to make room for the 10.4" screen and finding a home for the HU. I'll let the pictures speak for themselves, and hopefully the rest of the progress will come along a bit quicker.

Here is how everything looked before I started messing with it.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC00909.jpg

Here is how it looks now...
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01427.jpg

I am going to have to take it out again to finish up a bunch of wiring and may do some touch up, but for now it works and gives me some tunes again and the open space in the dash to put the 10.4" screen and other stuff.

Progress pics.

Earliest progress pic that I have.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01379.jpg
I had made the rough shape out of some cardboard hot glued together and then wrapped in aluminum foil to get the basic shape, then covered it in a layer of FG, then I added in the single din trim ring (trimmed down.) After that I added 2 more layers of fiberglass mat. I think it ended up being about 4 or 5 layers all in total.

All components in and getting close to finishing up the structure and moving on to sanding and getting it ready to finish.The black plastic on the left is for the factory upfitter switches, and the hole on the right is a place to put the trailer brake controller.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01382.jpg

The form out of the mold wasn't completely perfect, mostly on the sides, so I wrapped the factory dash piece in aluminum foil got the new piece located and temporarily mounted, then dribbled some resin in around the edges to pick up the true shape of the dash.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01384.jpg

Skip ahead to some bondo and lots of sanding, and its starting to look like its going to come out half way decent. Not too bad for my first time ever touching fiberglass.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01404.jpg


Next step was to move the heater controls from up in the dash to the lower cubby spot. This wasn't too hard since the controls were digital and the wiring harness would stretch to the new spot. Took a bit of dremel work to get enough room and pull it out far enough to be easily visible.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01411.jpg
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01415.jpg

Fine product doesn't look too bad, I most certainly could have finished it a bit better and I may do some more filling/sanding on some spots but from a distance and without them being pointed out its not disgusting.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01426.jpg
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01430.jpg


Next step is going to be the amp rack, I am the first steps built and the design pretty much complete. Nothing fancy but pretty much zero room to work with and I want it to look somewhat decent, and getting 2 amps 2 massive crossovers and the computer parts along the back wall is proving to be a little tricky.

Remaining components to install:
10.4" screen
Sundown 1500D
Sundown 100.4
Polk SR6500 components
Computer guts
Lots of wiring (power wire done so far)
Subs, 2 SI Mags when they come out.

jdc753
07-01-2008, 10:43 AM
There is next to nothing for room behind the back seat, but just enough to make something for the amps and other items. Maybe someday I could get some subs here but I doubt it.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC00901.jpg

These used to stick out 1" on the bottom, but after some massaging with the dremel they are an even 3/4" all around
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01190.jpg

This is the back wall for the amp rack, the 3/4" runners will keep it spaced out from the back wall of the truck to avoid the cab vents.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01198.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01202.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01204.jpg

I really wish there was more room back here

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01214.jpg

Now it finally starts to look like something.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01432.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01438.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01442.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01448.jpg

jdc753
07-01-2008, 10:44 AM
Glad I was using Kicker 1/0 cause I'm not sure another wire would be flexible enough to make these bends.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01450.jpg

Fishing some of the wires around behind the computer area, trying to keep things as clean as I can.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01451.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01454.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01455.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01457.jpg

Now all I need to do is finish up the wiring, still need to by a few pieces of wire to get it all finished up, and get the computer components all mounted up. After that just finish the cover panel that will flush everything in and carpet it. Then I can move onto running the rest of the wires in the truck.

jdc753
07-01-2008, 10:44 AM
Reserved for sub box build and install.

Teaser pics

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/untitled3.jpg

Should hold 2 12" mags sealed off in between the front seats replacing the center jump seat. while keeping the console/seatback above it. If this doesn't work out I may switch to some IDQ10's or a single 12. Toying with the idea of a single 15" aimed directly at the back seats for the fun of it but I doubt I will. Or attempt 4 of the new SI BM's along the back wall, going to need to fiberglass the back and floor to get the mounting depth and move the amps and computer to under the rear seat.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/n41901877_30522604_9937.jpg

Other ideas I toyed with, 3 tens, but takes up pretty much 100% of the tranny tunnel area.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/untitled-3.jpg

Low_e_Red
07-08-2008, 12:15 PM
This is GORGEOUS! Nice choice on the drivers ;). And I like how you are setting up that amp rack. Plus, not bad for the first time with glass.

I cant wait for the rest of the build.

bumpin buick
07-08-2008, 12:22 PM
not to bash your work but that dash attachment you made looks crooked, is that just the pics or is it a little crooked?

kovemaster559
07-08-2008, 12:26 PM
dam great job!

jdc753
07-08-2008, 12:50 PM
Thanks for the compliments guys. I can't wait to hear these speakers and get things finished up.


not to bash your work but that dash attachment you made looks crooked, is that just the pics or is it a little crooked?

I'm pretty sure its just the pic, but I am gonna double check it with a level and tape measure. It's looking like a built up one side with a bit too much bondo/glass and it didn't sit in perfectly. I ended up rushing when I attached the glass piece to the dash panel :mad: Don't worry about the bashing or criticism, I'm sure there will be more, least I can do is try and make it better from the comments. Hopefully practice makes perfect lol.

EDIT: Just looked back again and now I remember whats up with it. I couldn't get the trim ring to snap in right, didn't wanna break it, but I got it snapped in good now. Its sticking out a little on the right hand side that clip didn't wanna go in. You can see it sticking out in the upper right corner on the last pic. Dang it lol

duece212
07-08-2008, 12:56 PM
Lookin good man

mil81
07-08-2008, 01:04 PM
Nicely done man. That is going to be an amazing setup.

Be glad you have that much room behind your seat. I have nothing at all. I don't have a hope in hell of making a cool looking setup. I do plan to do the computer one day, but I don't think I have enough room for the 10.4" screen either. I think I have to go with the 7".

That piece for the HU looks great too. You did an amazing job moving stuff around. I'll definately be looking at these when it comes time to do mine.

bumpin buick
07-08-2008, 01:09 PM
Thanks for the compliments guys. I can't wait to hear these speakers and get things finished up.



I'm pretty sure its just the pic, but I am gonna double check it with a level and tape measure. It's looking like a built up one side with a bit too much bondo/glass and it didn't sit in perfectly. I ended up rushing when I attached the glass piece to the dash panel :mad: Don't worry about the bashing or criticism, I'm sure there will be more, least I can do is try and make it better from the comments. Hopefully practice makes perfect lol.

EDIT: Just looked back again and now I remember whats up with it. I couldn't get the trim ring to snap in right, didn't wanna break it, but I got it snapped in good now. Its sticking out a little on the right hand side that clip didn't wanna go in. You can see it sticking out in the upper right corner on the last pic. Dang it lol


kool, yeah nothing against your work it is very nice for a first time glass job. Just looked a little crooked but good to hear you got it fixed and keep up the nice work. BTW nice truck

jdc753
07-08-2008, 01:25 PM
Lookin good man

Thanks man, won't be as big as yours or as loud but sadly you got me almost thinking of ripping out my rear seat and building a crazy setup to listen to for a few months.


Nicely done man. That is going to be an amazing setup.

Be glad you have that much room behind your seat. I have nothing at all. I don't have a hope in hell of making a cool looking setup. I do plan to do the computer one day, but I don't think I have enough room for the 10.4" screen either. I think I have to go with the 7".

That piece for the HU looks great too. You did an amazing job moving stuff around. I'll definately be looking at these when it comes time to do mine.

Thanks :D I'm looking forward to seeing what you get in there. I'm sure the 7" will be more than enough. Took me almost 3 months of racking my brain and taking measurements in my spare time before I settled on this setup. Might be able to find some nook where you can squeeze stuff in on your truck.


kool, yeah nothing against your work it is very nice for a first time glass job. Just looked a little crooked but good to hear you got it fixed and keep up the nice work. BTW nice truck

It's good to get comments like that, keeps me on my toes and will keep my trying harder next time around. I honestly was worried the entire time that the thing was gonna turn out like crap being my first time and all and then rushing to put the thing in. Thanks for the compliments too.

mil81
07-08-2008, 01:48 PM
Thanks :D I'm looking forward to seeing what you get in there. I'm sure the 7" will be more than enough. Took me almost 3 months of racking my brain and taking measurements in my spare time before I settled on this setup. Might be able to find some nook where you can squeeze stuff in on your truck.

Well, now you got me going, and low and behold, the boss is sick today. You know what that means. The truck is coming into the shop. Won't get much done, but hopefully I can plan out the frame for the sub box.

I will be able to put all my stuff in here, but the amps have to go under the front seats, and they don't fit all that well. I just wish I could do a nice amp rack like you are doing. That is my normal type setup. But I guess it's all the better for the girlfriend. She gets all the crazy stuff since I can't do it to my truck.

Nice shop by the way. Wish I had that nice floor in mine. Mine's pretty eaten up. I could use that snap-on box, and little tractor too. LOL.

So, when is the next step for your setup. I'm looking forward to more pictures, and progress.

probmxstyle
07-08-2008, 01:54 PM
Nice work, your going to love those comps

duece212
07-08-2008, 01:54 PM
Thanks man, won't be as big as yours or as loud but sadly you got me almost thinking of ripping out my rear seat and building a crazy setup to listen to for a few months.


Back seats can go back in the same way they come out...;)

jdc753
07-08-2008, 02:40 PM
Well, now you got me going, and low and behold, the boss is sick today. You know what that means. The truck is coming into the shop. Won't get much done, but hopefully I can plan out the frame for the sub box.

I will be able to put all my stuff in here, but the amps have to go under the front seats, and they don't fit all that well. I just wish I could do a nice amp rack like you are doing. That is my normal type setup. But I guess it's all the better for the girlfriend. She gets all the crazy stuff since I can't do it to my truck.

Nice shop by the way. Wish I had that nice floor in mine. Mine's pretty eaten up. I could use that snap-on box, and little tractor too. LOL.

So, when is the next step for your setup. I'm looking forward to more pictures, and progress.

Sweet, glad to see I can inspire someone :)

Yea sadly the shop isn't mine nor the snap on box/tools, nor the tractor lol, all my dad's, but he lets me use em as long as I clean em and put them back in the right spots. I got all craftsman stuff till I can afford the good stuff lol. Oh and them tractors are sweet, 30+ years old and nearly all cast iron weigh about 600lbs and will go forever.

Next step will probably be finally ditching the door speakers now that I can, then I will move onto the computer install and then the sub box.


Nice work, your going to love those comps

I'm sure hoping so, they been sitting in my room for far too long :( Any tips on setting them up, I am thinking of bi-amping them with the woofers in the factor location in the door and the tweeters up in the sail panels. Should be able to use the time alignment on the HU to keep them in sync. Are they better on axis or off axis is one thing I have been wondering.


Back seats can go back in the same way they come out...;)

Oh man you really know how to egg a person on lol. I was crunching some numbers and just for fun looking at 6 18's in a semi wall with port horizontal accross the middle, just didn't have quite enough air space for em, but 6 15's would work lol. Wonder if I could get a hookup on 6 15" nightshades and 3 3000d's lol

probmxstyle
07-08-2008, 03:12 PM
They actually excel in both. They have extremely good imaging even if they are off axis. They also sound the best with the EQ set to flat or natrual.

connersdad19
07-08-2008, 03:29 PM
very nice work.

bigbangtheory
07-10-2008, 06:20 PM
I like the idea and all, but to me it looks like the trim panel around the deck you made, so assuming the whole fiberglassing part looks liike it wasn't painted right, or it was knicked in quite a few places. Not sure if it was the pics, or just me. Also not trying to hate, as I love the idea as I know what it takes to move your heating/AC to another spot. Just friendly constructive critiscm is all.


Love the rest of it and that amp rack looks killer and you picked some awesome subs! One thing is for sure, it will sound amazing!

jdc753
07-10-2008, 09:46 PM
very nice work.

Thank You.


I like the idea and all, but to me it looks like the trim panel around the deck you made, so assuming the whole fiberglassing part looks liike it wasn't painted right, or it was knicked in quite a few places. Not sure if it was the pics, or just me. Also not trying to hate, as I love the idea as I know what it takes to move your heating/AC to another spot. Just friendly constructive critiscm is all.


Love the rest of it and that amp rack looks killer and you picked some awesome subs! One thing is for sure, it will sound amazing!

Yea it was knicked a few times along the top edge. I got lazy towards the end, fiberglass just takes too long, and I wanted to get the radio in it, so I rushed things :crap: The paint actually matches fairly well, at first I was skeptical gotta let it fully cure before it starts to look right. I'm thinking when everything gets installed I will got at it for Round 2 when I get my head straight lol.

Thanks man, the constructive criticism helps out too. I can't wait for Nick to get the subs released, I got high hopes. I am sorta dreading it but I should probably di it right and deaden the truck too, at least to do justice to the speakers and subs.


I wish I had more updates, but lately things keep coming up for my hours after work. Hopefully get some done this weekend. Carpet and the remaining wiring items I need are all ordered, so goal for the weekend is to at the least get the amp rack all finished up and into the truck, if things go well start on running the wires.

squeak12
07-10-2008, 09:54 PM
Im not sure if its the same on the 05, but Ive heard you can flip the seat brackets on my year truck, 2001, and get a few more inches behind the seat. Right now I have an amp under the drivers rear seat and a tool set under the passenger rear. Plenty of room for amps under there. I really want to get leather in mine and do buckets in the front with an enclosure between the seats. Ill probably end up with a BM or two behind the seats though.

jdc753
07-10-2008, 10:02 PM
Im not sure if its the same on the 05, but Ive heard you can flip the seat brackets on my year truck, 2001, and get a few more inches behind the seat. Right now I have an amp under the drivers rear seat and a tool set under the passenger rear. Plenty of room for amps under there. I really want to get leather in mine and do buckets in the front with an enclosure between the seats. Ill probably end up with a BM or two behind the seats though.

its not the same :crap: believe me I was hoping it was, but with the 05+ they got this funky load leveling system under the seat and the back folds flat, and the bottom can fold all the way up. There is just enough room to get amps under the seat if I were to run some BM's or other shallow mount subs behind the seat.

With your seats flipped you should be able to fit a pair of mags behind the seat, some BM's sure would be nice too though. Right now I would take anything with some bass lol.

squeak12
07-10-2008, 10:15 PM
Ive got two 10" Kicker Comps behind the seat on 300 watts TOTAL. Its alright, but they take a beating back there. Im pretty sure one is almost blown and the other is 50% cone detached from surround. Crappy stereo place installed it for the previous owner. Whenever I get some extra cash its either revamping the audio or HPOP, injectors, and a 42R Turbo.

bigbangtheory
07-10-2008, 10:20 PM
Thank You.



Yea it was knicked a few times along the top edge. I got lazy towards the end, fiberglass just takes too long, and I wanted to get the radio in it, so I rushed things :crap: The paint actually matches fairly well, at first I was skeptical gotta let it fully cure before it starts to look right. I'm thinking when everything gets installed I will got at it for Round 2 when I get my head straight lol.

Thanks man, the constructive criticism helps out too. I can't wait for Nick to get the subs released, I got high hopes. I am sorta dreading it but I should probably di it right and deaden the truck too, at least to do justice to the speakers and subs.


I wish I had more updates, but lately things keep coming up for my hours after work. Hopefully get some done this weekend. Carpet and the remaining wiring items I need are all ordered, so goal for the weekend is to at the least get the amp rack all finished up and into the truck, if things go well start on running the wires.


It's cool. Hell you are wayyyyyy better than me at fiberglassing, so kudos to you..........wait, I never tried it, but I am sure you are better. Anyway, just take your time and I am sure once you get back to it, it will look killer!

I can't wait for the subs either, but with saving for a house, monies goes toward that first. :(

I would deffintley deaden your truck. Shouldn't need but maybe 80-100sqft to do the whole truck, maybe not even that much.

Good luck with the rest of it and can't wait to see more pics!

jdc753
07-14-2008, 12:50 PM
Minor updates, Amp rack pretty much finished, I just need to get the rest of my wire and put it into the truck.

Computer and PSU mounted
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01461.jpg

Starting to cut out the beauty panel.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01465.jpg

Test fit with the amps, so far so good, just gotta open it up a bit for the carpet to tuck in around the amps and cut out the openings for the crossovers and the fan.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01466.jpg

Crossover openings
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01469.jpg

Nailed and glued and just awaiting carpet
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01474.jpg
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01477.jpg

All dressed up and ready to go in.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01482.jpg
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01483.jpg

Just waiting on a few orders of wiring supplies and odds and ends to get things buttoned up and I will get it into the truck along with the speakers and start on the sub box.

mil81
07-14-2008, 03:00 PM
Wow. Dude that looks amazing.

Did you make all your inside cuts with a jig saw? Did you use a straight edge, cause those look great. Much better than mine turned out for my sub box, but I didn't really care what they looked like since they will be carpetted, and most all of them will be hidden anyways.

jdc753
07-14-2008, 03:06 PM
Thanks man :D

the cuts for the amps were done with a skill saw but the cuts for the crossovers were done with the jig saw. Just made sure to put em all down with pencil measure about 50 times and draw it out on the board then carefully follow the lines. I think I used the table saw much more for a workbench than I did for making cuts lol. The carpet works good to hide many of the little imperfections. In all honesty I think I should have left a bit more of an opening around all the stuff in anticipation for the carpet but it all fits and works pretty good so far.

mil81
07-14-2008, 03:11 PM
How did you use a skill saw? I mean, when you stop cutting, you don't have a square 90 degree finish.

jdc753
07-14-2008, 03:18 PM
How did you use a skill saw? I mean, when you stop cutting, you don't have a square 90 degree finish.

Yea for that I used the jig saw to finish up the corners, used a hand saw last time when I didn't want to break out the hand saw. Cut from the face and run the blade right up to the edge of each corner, then go back and finish up with a jeg saw, hand saw or even sawzall.

lincolntc690
07-14-2008, 03:20 PM
niiiice rack :)

mil81
07-14-2008, 03:22 PM
Oh yeah. that makes sense. Maybe next time I should think a little bit hey? LOL.

jdc753
07-14-2008, 07:03 PM
niiiice rack :)

Why thank you, its not everyday someone compliments me on my rack :blush: lol


Oh yeah. that makes sense. Maybe next time I should think a little bit hey? LOL.

Hey we all have our moments lol. Live and learn and as long as your learning your doing good, least thats how I look at it. More than one way to skin a cat. Just wish this thing didn't need soo many holes to run all the wires lol, starting to look like swiss cheese.

jdc753
07-22-2008, 09:42 PM
Things seem to be going frustratingly slow but I got a few new pics. Been picking away at this install doing a little something every night from when I get home around 6:30 till it gets dark around 9. Got my 1/0 ground run with split loom and 100% covered in electrical tape. Got my last RCA, power wire and speaker wire in the mail today so I should have ALL my wire. Also got the rear view camera mocked up (installed by no wires run.) Tonight I got the VGA and 2 USB extension cables run from the back and into the dash along with a of the speaker wires along with finishing up the power wiring on the amp rack. Also got my mounting into the truck figured out and fabbed up.

Here are some pics.

1/0 Kicker wire wrapped in split loom (yes I know certainly not pro quality but I think it will work) which is wrapped 100% in 3M Super 33+ electrical tape.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01509.jpg

Ground and power wire entering the cab, was nice that Ford left 3 grommets big enough to accept 1/0 in the back of the cab.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01510.jpg

Mocking up the mounting of the amp rack and cutting the power/ground wires to length. Note the pile of wires in the right corner of the amp rack, all those gotta get run to the dash and thats not even all of them :(
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01504.jpg

Almost what it should look like when its finally installed. The top metal cross bar will get black carpet to make it match the amp rack, and all the wires over in the far corner should be buried somewhere in the truck and run to their respective locations.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01512.jpg

Rear view camera peeking out between the tailgate and the bumper, should be protected fairly well here and serve its purpose whenever I feel like using it.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01515.jpg

and what I have to look forward to sorting out. I am thinking the wiring is the hardest part of this entire install, seems like every time I turn around I need to run another wire for something.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01521.jpg

Hoping to get the amp rack and speakers installed this weekend, then I can work on sorting out the computer and getting it up and running along with fabbing in the screen and other components. Going to pick up some 08 Super Duty sail panels that have the tweeter mount in them so I can mount the tweeters in a clean factory looking location.

JL Audio
07-22-2008, 09:49 PM
what in the hell is that energize III black thing or w/e..lol

5.3bowtie
07-22-2008, 10:15 PM
3M super 33 + FTW

looking very good too. may i ask though why the power and ground wire are brought up under the seat and around to the box instead of into the box directly? doesnt matter just curious. Keep up the good work!!

jdc753
07-22-2008, 10:52 PM
what in the hell is that energize III black thing or w/e..lol

I am honestly confused, not sure what you are refering to.



3M super 33 + FTW

looking very good too. may i ask though why the power and ground wire are brought up under the seat and around to the box instead of into the box directly? doesnt matter just curious. Keep up the good work!!

Thanks man. The main reason on the power and ground being the way they are is I used factory grommets in the floor, when the seat is in place you won't see them, unless you look hard, and all wires enter/exit the box at the 2 far ends. Only the power/ground will be even remotely visible, the rest of the wire all exits at the sides where the cab floor slopes down to the door sills, and the wire will go right under the door sills. If that makes sense lol. You can kinda see in the last pic the holes in the floor area under the distro blocks, this is where the wire enters/exits. I would have liked to get the power/ground run a bit neater but I was lazy and didn't want to drill the floor and make up my own grommets.

5.3bowtie
07-22-2008, 11:34 PM
cool. using factory gromets is always the way to go imo. good luck on the rest of it!

Phers1er
07-23-2008, 12:04 AM
Looking really good so far!!
p.s. why is that 100.4 upside down?

Rashaddd
07-23-2008, 12:35 AM
Amp rack looks beautiful. Great job man

yunvme666
07-23-2008, 12:39 AM
nice i wanna try the computer in the car thing some time, also what table saw ya got i think i got the same one 8204 or somethin like that?

mil81
07-23-2008, 12:56 AM
Yeah man. As before, things are looking great. Can't wait to get the pictures of my new rims and tires, and all the install work I've been doing, up in a forum.

Black-Gorrilla
07-23-2008, 01:07 AM
Looking really good so far!!
p.s. why is that 100.4 upside down?

The amp might be upside down so that all of the same wires run to the center of the amp rack... other wise he'd have power running to the center, and one of the ends... this way it all goes to one place...
i think...

jdc753
07-23-2008, 09:18 AM
Thanks for all the compliments guys :D


Looking really good so far!!
p.s. why is that 100.4 upside down?


The amp might be upside down so that all of the same wires run to the center of the amp rack... other wise he'd have power running to the center, and one of the ends... this way it all goes to one place...
i think...

Ding Ding Ding, also it would put the tuning/rca side of the amp right up next to the outside of the cab where I wouldn't easily be able to read what I Was turning nor see where I was turning the knobs to without using a mirror or something.

I had asked Jacob about getting some sort of a stencil kit for the Sax 100.4 lettering but I guess I will have to make my own, if you notice the new amps have them mirrored on both corners. Guess a lot of people were asking for a similar setup.



nice i wanna try the computer in the car thing some time, also what table saw ya got i think i got the same one 8204 or somethin like that?

I'm not exactly sure on the model number and sadly its not my saw but my dads. Its a Bosch 10" saw, supposed to be a portable but its a bit heavy least compared to the makita we used to have. The heavy is really nice though once its setup at the job, can rip full sheets of MDF with one person without too much trouble. Ripped a few 60" x 48" pieces for this project without a hiccup. Plus the table extends for up to 24" rips I believe which is nice, and as you can see it makes for a perfect work table lol.

jdc753
08-02-2008, 11:34 PM
Well I been working on this pretty much every night when I get home from work. Past three nights I have been up till 11pm or later trying to get as much done as I can and then put it all back together so I can drive it the next day. Doesn't feel like I am getting much done but I will let the pictures tell the story.

I came up with a way to bolt it into the truck so it won't be relying 100% on the seat to hold it in place. Folded over some of the metal I used for the computer area, then screwed through it into the cab and into the mdf. Its also bolted to the floor using some of the factory bolt holes for the junk I pulled out.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01534.jpg

Carpeted the visible sheet metal so it would blend in with the amp rack.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01535.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01539.jpg

Test fit, starting to see the final product.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01542.jpg

Here we go, seat is in, amp rack is in and now all I gotta do is start running wires and get it to make some sound.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01571.jpg

Its a tight fit, almost a bit too tight
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01577.jpg

Started fiddling around with mounting the screen and such in the dash. Still a ways off before I start this part of the project but nice to see how things are going to look.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01529.jpg

Today I got the speakers in and all the wires run. I haven't had much listening time but its sounding pretty good. Ended up running into a snag though, one of the crossovers is messed up, seems something in the tweeter network is screwed up, so after trying everything I could I ended up bypassing the crossover for just the tweeters and set up the 100.4 so the tweeters won't die playing some low notes. Still gotta fiddle around with mounting the tweeters though, right now they are taped up on my sail panels, going to try the top of the door panel and maybe a few other spots as well as some more tuning. Gotta deaden the doors in the future too.

Oh and I put in my order for the new mags, should be here sometime around the end of August or beginning of September. Hopefully I will have a nice home for them by the time they arrive.

Phers1er
08-03-2008, 12:15 AM
Looks awsome so far!!! Can't wait to see how the screen turns out.

jdc753
08-03-2008, 09:16 PM
Thanks man, same here, but I am dreading cutting the dash due to the wood grain its got, can't really go back and just paint it. Thinking I will measure 500 times cut once a little small and then sand/file it to the right opening and hope I don't have to redo anything lol. Worst case I think about all I could do is wet sand it through the clear and re-clear it.

SilverSquared
08-03-2008, 09:25 PM
You do know that 3.5" hard drives dont take the rough vibrations/impacts like a 2.5" drive, right? They're also hotter, and draw more power from the PSU.



Everything else looks GREAT. And I'm very glad ur running a 10" monitor. I cant see the REASON for running anything larger when ur 2 feet away from it. Just watch how bright it'll be at night, lol. You'll be glad its not bigger.

Phers1er
08-03-2008, 09:28 PM
Thanks man, same here, but I am dreading cutting the dash due to the wood grain its got, can't really go back and just paint it. Thinking I will measure 500 times cut once a little small and then sand/file it to the right opening and hope I don't have to redo anything lol. Worst case I think about all I could do is wet sand it through the clear and re-clear it.
Wow, that is scary... But It seems like you have the right Idea, Sanding and filing a little at a time.
gl

speedfreak28
08-03-2008, 09:30 PM
nice work, that amp rack is clean!

speedfreak28
08-03-2008, 09:33 PM
Thanks man, same here, but I am dreading cutting the dash due to the wood grain its got, can't really go back and just paint it. Thinking I will measure 500 times cut once a little small and then sand/file it to the right opening and hope I don't have to redo anything lol. Worst case I think about all I could do is wet sand it through the clear and re-clear it.

your best bet would be to tape off yourr measurements as exact as youcan get them, cut out the excess with an air saw. that wouldnt leave much to sand or file.

jdc753
08-03-2008, 09:39 PM
You do know that 3.5" hard drives dont take the rough vibrations/impacts like a 2.5" drive, right? They're also hotter, and draw more power from the PSU.



Everything else looks GREAT. And I'm very glad ur running a 10" monitor. I cant see the REASON for running anything larger when ur 2 feet away from it. Just watch how bright it'll be at night, lol. You'll be glad its not bigger.

Yea for now its what I got. Was a spare drive so if it dies it dies, I have owned it since the 120GB ide was released lol so about 6 or so years back lol, maybe more. I can pick up a 500GB drive now for cheaper than I paid for the 120 lol.

Yea the screen was actually what got me the idea of building this. I am thinking its the perfect size, little smaller would have been easy to put in but this will pretty much fill the entire area without having to move the AC vents or really screw up the dash. For night time I so far am using mostly dark skins for Road Runner to keep it darker. Can't wait to get it all up and running, its was soo much fun fooling around with it when I had it setup on my desk. Thanks for the compliments :) gonna be busy this week with other things so it may be a while before I get any more work, but I think the computer install is bumped up the list now that I got the speakers and amps all working and such.

jdc753
08-03-2008, 09:47 PM
Wow, that is scary... But It seems like you have the right Idea, Sanding and filing a little at a time.
gl

Yea it is a bit, but I think I got it, most certainly gonna be stressful when I put the blade the to plastic lol.


nice work, that amp rack is clean!


your best bet would be to tape off yourr measurements as exact as youcan get them, cut out the excess with an air saw. that wouldnt leave much to sand or file.

Thanks man :D Yea thats what I got currently, I put some masking tape all around the area and then found the center of the current opening and measured out from there and marked my lines down the sides and I will go straight out from the top and bottom and make it one big opening. I am thinking I will use a dremel that I got with a cut off wheel but make light passes to not heat up the plastic too much as I cut. There will be about 1.5" to 2" left over below the screen but I should be able to form a fiberglass filler along there to hold the slot load dvd and the usb hub, get the filler panel painted flat black like the other dash inserts and it should look reasonably good.

speedfreak28
08-03-2008, 09:51 PM
sounds good, i gotta start my dash, only have to trim for a avic d3 not a 10" monitor lol

Atimm693
08-03-2008, 09:59 PM
Looks pretty great so far, nice and clean.

Keep it up.

jdc753
08-04-2008, 11:43 PM
Well not too much for updates but spent most of the night trying to tune the speakers and get a good baseline. I still need to move the tweeters and get them mounted up nicely. Also gotta read up a lot more on the manual as to how to operate the 9887. Stinks that I can't find it anywhere in the house, so gonna print out a copy at the office tomorrow and spend some time getting familiar with it.

I must say that with the little bit of tuning and horrible tweeter placement so far that it actually sounds really good. I can only imagine what it will sound like when I get the tweeters mounted properly, deaden the doors and spend some more timing. Oh and add subs to fill in the bottom notes.

jdc753
08-06-2008, 10:43 PM
what in the hell is that energize III black thing or w/e..lol

Just looked back through my pictures again as I must have had a brain fart last time. That Energize III thing next to the switches and below the HU is a trailer brake controler, its for equilizing the trailer brakes to the trucks brakes so your not stuck trying to stop your truck AND the trailer with the trucks brakes alone.

Black-Gorrilla
08-06-2008, 10:46 PM
how will that monitor be mounted (once you cut the wood grain... yikes...)
do you have some kind of bracket that it came with?

jdc753
08-06-2008, 10:47 PM
Got a little bit more accomplished. Tweeters are installed. What do you guys think...

Drivers side tweeter
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01584.jpg

jdc753
08-06-2008, 10:49 PM
how will that monitor be mounted (once you cut the wood grain... yikes...)
do you have some kind of bracket that it came with?

I still have yet to 100% figure it out, but what I have in my head at the moment is to cut it JUST right lol. Only ONE chance at this, and the screen will sit behind the dash as it would in a standard bezel, then I will mount it to he back side of the dash piece either using the bezel it came in, or with some fiberglass or plastic build up around the screen and fastened to the dash as it is in the bezel which is by little metal clips screwed into the bezel.

jdc753
08-06-2008, 11:02 PM
Ok don't worry the tweeters aren't staying like that, but even with that horrible mounting it still sounded amazing. Get in the truck and crank the stereo and it was like you just put on headphones, the speakers disappeared and all you were left with was the music right up around eye level or a little bit lower (I sit pretty high up in the seat.)

Here is what I did tonight, not much but got the tweeters aimed and into little pods. Later on I will go back and wrap the sail panels and pods and finish them up with some fiberglass then texture paint and black pain to try and match the OEM as best I can.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01592.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01593.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01594.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01595.jpg

And here is the passenger side...

BEFORE: super crappy, but as I said it sounded pretty sweet lol, just lacking a bit of the highest highs. Hoping by aiming them directly on axis to each headrest that those highs will be brought out.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01598.jpg

AFTER:

Not the greatest picture, but it is also now aimed directly on axis. The drivers side tweeter is at the drivers headrest and the passenger tweeter at the passenger headrest.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01602.jpg

I haven't really had any time to sit and get an idea if this is any better or do any more tuning but I am pretty sure it will be better. If not I can always change it around a bit. The hot glue gun has become one of my most favorite tools in this install lol. I didn't have a laser pointer around anywhere so I tried to aim them as best as I could, hopefully it will be good. With the tweeters squared away I will be free to move onto deadening the doors to try and make a proper home for these speakers.

Any tips, tricks, criticism or feedback of any kind is greatly appreciated, specially seeing as much of this install is a learning process for me so far.

Black-Gorrilla
08-06-2008, 11:03 PM
how thick is that monitor? i might have an idea that could work and keep that nice woodgrain in tact at the same time...

Phers1er
08-06-2008, 11:09 PM
The tweeter pods look pretty good so far!
I wanted to do the same but I already had holes in my doors from my last system and decided to be lazy

jdc753
08-06-2008, 11:11 PM
how thick is that monitor? i might have an idea that could work and keep that nice woodgrain in tact at the same time...

Here are a few pics of the screen from when I disassembled it.

Back side with the LCD control board and such
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC02301.jpg

Front side with everything still intact
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC02300.jpg

Front side with the cables disconnected to remove the actual LCD panel itself
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC02302.jpg

And here is a shot of the LCD panel resting in the back side of the dash
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01523.jpg

There are a few things I need to trim off the back side so that the screen can go up to back side of the dash panel, then I will put some padded double sided tape, bout an 1/8" thick to pad the screen from the dash a bit. Currently thinking of wrapping the screen with foil (as a release agent and to protect it. Then pouring fiberglass resin our maybe some duramix around the edges of the screen up to the thickness of the LCD panel, then using the metal tabs that were used in the factory bezel to attach the screen to the dash panel.

Let me know what your thinking, might work out better, and I am always open for different ideas.

jdc753
08-06-2008, 11:13 PM
The tweeter pods look pretty good so far!
I wanted to do the same but I already had holes in my doors from my last system and decided to be lazy

Thanks man :)

Being lazy is nice lol, luckily if I need to or want to change it up as it sits now I haven't cut anything, but I'm sure that won't last long lol. The more I progress on this build the more I am wishing I could find a similar truck in the junk yard so I could have back up interior panels.

Phers1er
08-06-2008, 11:20 PM
I have a parts car in my garage (I traded my ps3 for) but the panels have power window switches and my car has roll up windows or else I would do some pods.

Black-Gorrilla
08-06-2008, 11:23 PM
let me try and explain my idea... if i have to, i'll draw it out and post a picture i will.
the same way you made that fiberglass piece that you mounted under your dash with the with the HU... make one that comes over the dash, and mount the monitor in that... you can attach it at the top and let the front part rest over the wood grain. i know it would not be flush mounted the way you wanted... but it's an option other than cutting the trough the wood grain and everything...
might be a dumb idea tho...

jdc753
08-07-2008, 09:49 AM
I have a parts car in my garage (I traded my ps3 for) but the panels have power window switches and my car has roll up windows or else I would do some pods.

That is the way to go right there. I used to have a few 80-86 Fords that I went through and was always easy to get whatever parts I needed from the junkyard and even started to get some in stock just laying around. But this truck is too new I think for me to be able to find in the yard.


let me try and explain my idea... if i have to, i'll draw it out and post a picture i will.
the same way you made that fiberglass piece that you mounted under your dash with the with the HU... make one that comes over the dash, and mount the monitor in that... you can attach it at the top and let the front part rest over the wood grain. i know it would not be flush mounted the way you wanted... but it's an option other than cutting the trough the wood grain and everything...
might be a dumb idea tho...

Okie, I got what your saying. I am going to keep it in mind. I'm not sure if I would be able to make it work while making it even resemble an OEM install is the only problem. I'm sure if I put the screen behind the dash it won't be all that OEM and trick people but I am gonna try.

Thinking absolute worst case I could send out my dash to one of the refinishing places and get a new wood grain applied to my newly formed dash, or buy a new panel (hopefully from a junk yard, but probable the dealer) and then drop down to an 8" or 7" screen which should install nice and easy.

Guessing my tweeter pods scared everyone away lol. I think I need to do a little more fiddling on the aiming and then wrap them up with an old t-shirt and finish them up.

Black-Gorrilla
08-07-2008, 11:43 AM
the tweeter pods are in a nice location... once they are finished it should look sweet.

mil81
08-07-2008, 12:02 PM
I'm pretty new at the imagine part of things too, but I thought the tweets should be focussed on the same point (ie. driver's head, center of vehicle at head height...).

Correct me if I'm wrong, cause I'm going to be doing the same thing with my RSD's soon.

bigbangtheory
08-07-2008, 12:18 PM
Looks good mang, best of luck on the rest of the install. I know it is probably killing you waiting on those subs.

jdc753
08-07-2008, 02:12 PM
I'm pretty new at the imagine part of things too, but I thought the tweets should be focussed on the same point (ie. driver's head, center of vehicle at head height...).

Correct me if I'm wrong, cause I'm going to be doing the same thing with my RSD's soon.

Yea I am not 100% sure on that either. I would kinda like the passengers to enjoy the sound as much as me but I will fiddle around with aiming the passenger tweeter at my head as well and see if that helps a bit. I'll definitely need to pick up a laser pointer for that. Luckily with just the hot glue I can move things around and nothing is set in stone. Maybe I will leave the tweets in a movable phase until I get the subs in and installed around early september. Should give me enough seat time to try out a few positions.


Looks good mang, best of luck on the rest of the install. I know it is probably killing you waiting on those subs.

Thanks man :D Yea I've been trying to not think about it lol cause I can't wait to try em out. Least if anything if gives me more time to focus on getting everything else done. I found lately just getting the speakers in I wasn't accomplishing anything cause I would go out to the truck to do some work and end up just sitting there listening to music. I can see the same thing only much worse going on when I get the subs.

mil81
08-07-2008, 02:30 PM
Yea I am not 100% sure on that either. I would kinda like the passengers to enjoy the sound as much as me but I will fiddle around with aiming the passenger tweeter at my head as well and see if that helps a bit. I'll definitely need to pick up a laser pointer for that. Luckily with just the hot glue I can move things around and nothing is set in stone. Maybe I will leave the tweets in a movable phase until I get the subs in and installed around early september. Should give me enough seat time to try out a few positions.

Yeah, I think ideally you want them both pointed at your head. As you do, I want the passenger to enjoy, and give me compliments on, the nice sounding system, so I think I will first try pointing them head level to the center of the truck (Above the center console).

But, you are a lot further along that I am, so please let me know how you make out.

jdc753
08-07-2008, 02:34 PM
Yeah, I think ideally you want them both pointed at your head. As you do, I want the passenger to enjoy, and give me compliments on, the nice sounding system, so I think I will first try pointing them head level to the center of the truck (Above the center console).

But, you are a lot further along that I am, so please let me know how you make out.

Sounds good, I will try em all out. Heck to me it sounded darn good with the initial crappy angling but I had read they sound better on axis and my dad mentioned the upper highs missing so I thought I should try this out. Aimed towards center probable won't be that far off axis so might work out good. Think I will flip em towards the center this weekend after a bit more listening as they are now. Thanks for the tip.

Our trucks probably aren't all that different inside so hopefully what works for me will nearly work for you.

mil81
08-07-2008, 02:44 PM
Sounds good, I will try em all out. Heck to me it sounded darn good with the initial crappy angling but I had read they sound better on axis and my dad mentioned the upper highs missing so I thought I should try this out. Aimed towards center probable won't be that far off axis so might work out good. Think I will flip em towards the center this weekend after a bit more listening as they are now. Thanks for the tip.

Our trucks probably aren't all that different inside so hopefully what works for me will nearly work for you.

That's what I'm hoping. They have the same basic cab shape. The only difference might be the windshield shape, which in this case isn't making any difference.

Racerx250
08-07-2008, 03:25 PM
Hey major props to you man. Looks pretty good to me. Can't wait to see the finished product.

jdc753
08-07-2008, 03:57 PM
That's what I'm hoping. They have the same basic cab shape. The only difference might be the windshield shape, which in this case isn't making any difference.

Exactly, dash is pretty similar and seating position is pretty similar and I would imagine the overall rough dimensions are pretty close too. I think I am gonna fiddle around with the tweeters up on the a-pillars too, not sure exactly where on them though, maybe about 6" up off the dash and firing directly accross, or maybe up top and on axis. Only thing I am worried about with them up there is that I want to put a 4-gauge a-pillar pod on and I don't want the tweeters to get in the way of that, and at the same time I want the driver and passenger sides to be pretty symetrical.


Hey major props to you man. Looks pretty good to me. Can't wait to see the finished product.

Thanks man :D Hopefully it will be finished or at least resembling finished over the course of the next month or 2. Did you ever get the components installed in you work truck? I remember talking with you a while back about tweeter placement in your F250.

mil81
08-07-2008, 07:26 PM
Exactly, dash is pretty similar and seating position is pretty similar and I would imagine the overall rough dimensions are pretty close too. I think I am gonna fiddle around with the tweeters up on the a-pillars too, not sure exactly where on them though, maybe about 6" up off the dash and firing directly accross, or maybe up top and on axis. Only thing I am worried about with them up there is that I want to put a 4-gauge a-pillar pod on and I don't want the tweeters to get in the way of that, and at the same time I want the driver and passenger sides to be pretty symetrical.

You're a fibre glassing machine with all these projects on the go. Why don't you buy the guages and glass them in where ever you want them. Then you can have the tweets in their ideal location, and have your guages around that.

That is the "One Day" plan for myself. I even have a spare A-Pillar, just no guages, and no time.

jeeper07
08-07-2008, 07:30 PM
**** dude for as much as you have commented in my build you never put a link up for me to check this. AMAZING craftsmanship so far and great equiptment. All i can say is WOW

jeeper07
08-07-2008, 07:33 PM
Only thing is is there anyway to cover that fan? would speaker grille cloth be too thick? it just seems to stick out like a sore thumb. That carputer looks amazing tho i want one now

wasted ink
08-07-2008, 09:15 PM
nice work, i browsed most of the pages... a couple things...

-the fiberglass piece you made for your deck on the first page... i think it was your first attempt... did you glass that without any mat, just resin??

-i saw you used bondo brand filler... next time try an evercoat product, rage gold, rage extreme, z-grip, lightweight... these are pinhole free fillers that are not clay based like bondo... you will find that you have a MUCH easier time with them. a huge difference.

-nice job on the amp rack and computer setup, you seem to know your stuff when it comes to carputers.. which is an area i dont have alot of knowledge in... so hats off...

jdc753
08-07-2008, 10:47 PM
You're a fibre glassing machine with all these projects on the go. Why don't you buy the guages and glass them in where ever you want them. Then you can have the tweets in their ideal location, and have your guages around that.

That is the "One Day" plan for myself. I even have a spare A-Pillar, just no guages, and no time.

Thanks for the compliment, but I dunno if I am nearly that good lol. I honestly never even thought about making my own, was gonna buy one when I get the gauges. I'm thinking their will be enough room for the tweeter if they work well firing across the dash. Gonna swap em to that sort of setup saturday and see how they sound that way.


**** dude for as much as you have commented in my build you never put a link up for me to check this. AMAZING craftsmanship so far and great equiptment. All i can say is WOW


Only thing is is there anyway to cover that fan? would speaker grille cloth be too thick? it just seems to stick out like a sore thumb. That carputer looks amazing tho i want one now

Haha, sorry I feel kinda weird fishing for compliments or feedback, but thanks for checking it out and thanks for the compliments :D

I thought about that when I was first building it but didn't have any grill cloth at the time and was thinking of simply covering it with the speaker carpet since it seemed to stretch and breath well but instead I cut it out. I may go back later and try to fix it, with the seat in you can't see it at all though. But will certainly be added to my punch list to clean up after I get things pretty much finalized.


nice work, i browsed most of the pages... a couple things...

-the fiberglass piece you made for your deck on the first page... i think it was your first attempt... did you glass that without any mat, just resin??

-i saw you used bondo brand filler... next time try an evercoat product, rage gold, rage extreme, z-grip, lightweight... these are pinhole free fillers that are not clay based like bondo... you will find that you have a MUCH easier time with them. a huge difference.

-nice job on the amp rack and computer setup, you seem to know your stuff when it comes to carputers.. which is an area i dont have alot of knowledge in... so hats off...

Yes that was my first attempt, I ended up cutting out some cardboard and hot gluing it together to make a mold and then wrapped it with foil. From there I resined it and used mat. I think I ended up putting about 4-5 layers on it all said and done. Its pretty strong, I probably could have skipped a few layers lol.

Thanks for the tips on the filler. I tried to use some red lead to clean up some of the pinholes and other imperfections. Sadly as it got towards the end I started loosing my patience and rushed the most important part, the sanding and finishing. I am hoping to go back and touch up a couple of spots and make it right.

Thanks :) I have built a few desktop computer and did a lot of reading on the carputer thing to try and research it as much as I could.

Oh and wearabouts in NH are you from? I'm in SE Mass. Norton to be exact, down near the RI line. Got a college friend who lives in Hudson, NH.

jeeper07
08-07-2008, 10:54 PM
i didnt know if the seats covered it or not. if they do then screw it. i just figured u made everything else so pretty. But seriously amazing build. my audio part wont be nearly as good cause i have **** near no space, but it will be very clean like yours is. FANTASTIC

jdc753
08-07-2008, 11:01 PM
i didnt know if the seats covered it or not. if they do then screw it. i just figured u made everything else so pretty. But seriously amazing build. my audio part wont be nearly as good cause i have **** near no space, but it will be very clean like yours is. FANTASTIC

Yea its pretty sad lol, when the seats are folded down to actually see things they cover up everything just to the bottom of the crossovers, can barely even read the Sundown emblem across the middle of the amps and that is only when you are peaking in from the side door and looking down behind the seat.

Thanks again, if your audio part comes out even half as good as the rest of your truck I'm sure it will be an amazing install. Should have plenty of options in your truck by switching to bucket seats too. Maybe some sort of inverted single sub setup between the 2 seats or something. I'm looking forward to seeing what you come up with.

jeeper07
08-07-2008, 11:03 PM
oh i have a few ideas that should be pretty sweet. Lots of fiberglass included in that plan. I sent u a pm tho jdc

wasted ink
08-08-2008, 03:50 PM
Yes that was my first attempt, I ended up cutting out some cardboard and hot gluing it together to make a mold and then wrapped it with foil. From there I resined it and used mat. I think I ended up putting about 4-5 layers on it all said and done. Its pretty strong, I probably could have skipped a few layers lol.

Thanks for the tips on the filler. I tried to use some red lead to clean up some of the pinholes and other imperfections. Sadly as it got towards the end I started loosing my patience and rushed the most important part, the sanding and finishing. I am hoping to go back and touch up a couple of spots and make it right.

Thanks :) I have built a few desktop computer and did a lot of reading on the carputer thing to try and research it as much as I could.

Oh and wearabouts in NH are you from? I'm in SE Mass. Norton to be exact, down near the RI line. Got a college friend who lives in Hudson, NH.

i wasnt sure because i couldnt really see any mat in there.. and the filler... back when i first started glassing i used bondo brand **** and as soon as i made the switch it improved my work instantly, and by a noticeable amount. i try to make that point every time i see the red lead. and im located just south of manchester.. i have a few friends in hudson... im about 30 - 40 minutes away.. never been to norton ma, but i grew up in lowell and east boston, and spent alot of time in south boston. ive been down that area a few times, but never to that town. good luck with the rest of the build, ill check back when i get a chance.. it seems like youre heading the right way though.

jdc753
08-08-2008, 04:00 PM
i wasnt sure because i couldnt really see any mat in there.. and the filler... back when i first started glassing i used bondo brand **** and as soon as i made the switch it improved my work instantly, and by a noticeable amount. i try to make that point every time i see the red lead. and im located just south of manchester.. i have a few friends in hudson... im about 30 - 40 minutes away.. never been to norton ma, but i grew up in lowell and east boston, and spent alot of time in south boston. ive been down that area a few times, but never to that town. good luck with the rest of the build, ill check back when i get a chance.. it seems like youre heading the right way though.

Cool, I will most certainly check out that stuff the next time I fiddle with the glass.

Have you heard of or been to the Comcast Center, formerly Tweeter Center, and before that Great Woods?? I live about 5 minutes up the road from there. Its about the easiest way I can describe where I am to others lol since I am from such a small town.

energizedsbs
08-08-2008, 04:19 PM
http://www.puredieselpower.com/catalog/gauges-pods-ford-gauge-pods-c-22_24.html


heres a place with some cool gauge pods. when I had my 350 I had the 4 gauge pod above the mirror. I liked it there a lot. just givving you another option

jdc753
08-08-2008, 04:44 PM
http://www.puredieselpower.com/catalog/gauges-pods-ford-gauge-pods-c-22_24.html


heres a place with some cool gauge pods. when I had my 350 I had the 4 gauge pod above the mirror. I liked it there a lot. just givving you another option

Thanks for the tip. I would love to ultimately get a 4-gauge a-pillar pod AND a 4-gauge overhead pod. But sadly gauges are pretty expensive so it will be a little while. Gonna start with the three main gauges Tranny temp, Pyro and Boost, then add a volt meter for the pillar pod. Friggin 1-ton diesel truck and no factory volt or amp meter :verymad::verymad: oh well. Then up top probably a HPOP pressure, fuel pressure, Oil temp and water temp. Got a few others I would like but will see how things go, its all long term thoughts. Almost tempted to buy just the a-pillar pod with no gauges so I can see what it will be like while I am working on installing the tweeters.

wasted ink
08-09-2008, 05:14 PM
Cool, I will most certainly check out that stuff the next time I fiddle with the glass.

Have you heard of or been to the Comcast Center, formerly Tweeter Center, and before that Great Woods?? I live about 5 minutes up the road from there. Its about the easiest way I can describe where I am to others lol since I am from such a small town.

yea def ive been to a few shows, i thought it might have been near mansfield but i didnt think to say anything. good stuff man.

jdc753
08-12-2008, 09:45 AM
Been going slow lately due to bunch of other things coming up and such but here are some new pics of my experimenting with tweeter location. I had them mounted on the sail panels directly on axis. With this mounting I had to push the balance 3 clicks to the right to get everything balanced out and even all around.

I got some tips on this location telling me that it might be better to mount them on the a-pillars. So I got them up on the pillars firing directly across the dash at each other. This seemed to cure the balance problem. Zeroing out the balance brought everything back to a nice and even sound from all around. Obviously I will clean things up but I had to push the mounting rings out a bit from the pillars for the tweeters to clear but in the final install if I go with this spot I will cut the pillars so I can push the tweeters as far back as I can.

Before:
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01622.jpg

After:
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01625.jpg
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01623.jpg


Before:
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01621.jpg

After:
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01626.jpg
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01627.jpg
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01628.jpg

So far this is sounding the best even though I have little to no tuning and I am certainly starting to need some, but I think I am getting much closer to finding the right mounting locations to get the most out of this truck that I can. I may try the tweeters up on the dash firing off the glass but I don't think that will show any improvements over what I have now. Hopefully during this week I will get the crossovers bypassed and move onto fully active and start tuning.

four15s
08-12-2008, 02:37 PM
i luv it
but i will say that if i was u, i would hav put three or four fans because those amps will get hot
and the computer will get hot too... So its gonna b on fire in there... But i like the setup, im going to stay posted...

jdc753
08-12-2008, 03:01 PM
i luv it
but i will say that if i was u, i would hav put three or four fans because those amps will get hot
and the computer will get hot too... So its gonna b on fire in there... But i like the setup, im going to stay posted...

Thanks man, yea So far they are ok, but I'm sure when its all running on a hot day it might start to cause trouble. The 100.4 gets hot but not killer hot even after running full tilt for about 3 hours. I'm thinking I will be rebuilding the amp rack in the new future anyways as it looks like I am ditching the crossovers. I got some spare 120mm fans I can throw in there when I get everything setup.

lamont1
08-12-2008, 05:00 PM
Thanks man, yea So far they are ok, but I'm sure when its all running on a hot day it might start to cause trouble. The 100.4 gets hot but not killer hot even after running full tilt for about 3 hours. I'm thinking I will be rebuilding the amp rack in the new future anyways as it looks like I am ditching the crossovers. I got some spare 120mm fans I can throw in there when I get everything setup.

it shouldn't be that bad of runnin hot since u stay up north and you can also run a ac duck to it;)

jdc753
09-04-2008, 10:04 PM
Dang its been a while since I have updated in here. Well I haven't gotten too much accomplished either but finally got some time to get working on the truck again.

Spent much of saturday trouble shooting and making sure the computer was up and running and running consistently. Ended up that the mobo was bent and bowing directly under the ram chips and causing a no boot condition, so after re seating everything a few times I got it all set and installed firmly into the truck with the mobo nice and flat. I'm thinking this will give me problems in the future though with bumps and jostles :(

Oh well onto the pics.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01716.jpg
Removed the crossovers on the amp rack to go active and to give me some working room for the computer. Took me nearly 45 minutes before to connect the PSU to the mobo when the seat was bolted in and the crossovers in place :mad: Much better now.

Like I said temporary trouble shooting session lol. I need to get this finished though, this temporary stuff and the tape on the dash is starting to drive me nuts.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01711.jpg

Killer monitor holder lol
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01726.jpg

Mini keyboard and touch pad sitting roughly in their final resting position
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01714.jpg

I plan on build some sort of a flip open door on the console that will house the keyboard and touch pad. When close they will both be hidden and it will match the rest of the console, then flip open with a piano hinge or so revealing the keyboard and touch pad, as well as uncovering the 2 cupholders if I need them.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01720.jpg



Did some more fiddling with tweeter placement and decided on going with on axis mounting to get the most detail from the tweeters. Also this will be the easiest position to return to stock if I decide to change things up which we all know happens, and quite frequently.

I got both tweeter pods aimed and mounted to the sail panels with some dowels and hot glue.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01731.jpg

I learned a few things from reading on here and other forums and moved ahead with wrapping the panels with some pieces of t-shirt.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01728.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01730.jpg

jdc753
09-04-2008, 10:05 PM
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01735.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01736.jpg

This is only my second time working with fiberglass and first time when wrapping something so it took me a while to get it just right and figure out how to hold it in place. I am still not too sure on how much I like the shape but I will leave my final opinion till I actually finish them and see them installed and painted.

I'm sure others know this trick, or have even better ways of doing this but I thought it was pretty good. There wasn't really any way of holding the t-shirt material around the plastic and keeping it tight. Then I found I could get it just right and carefully grabbing both sides twist it together and when its tight and just right twist an elastic band around the twisted cloth over and over again until there was no more stretch in the elastic. This worked pretty good and held it nice and tight

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01738.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01741.jpg

I only got maybe a layer or 2 of mat on them but they are strong specially with the continually curving and tight shapes. I will most likely add another layer and decent amount of resin after the first sanding I did tonight showed a few air bubbles and some other rough spots.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01743.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01760.jpg


The resin isn't holding onto the plastic tighly. I suspect it would be good enough but I am gonna follow the advice of my dad and drill out some 3/8" holes in the sides and put in some pop rivets then resin/mat and finish over them to give a nice mechanical hold.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01761.jpg

Installed on the door where it will finally sit.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01764.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01763.jpg

Thats pretty much what I have gotten done lately. Planning on finishing up the tweeter mounts tomorrow night if not saturday and finally have things perminantly mounted so I can really delve into tuning things and getting the best sound I can from it.

jeeper07
09-04-2008, 10:11 PM
YAY for progress looks good man!

WALKS UP
09-04-2008, 10:18 PM
**** man looking nice

schrummy
09-04-2008, 10:35 PM
get this done. we all want to see the end product

mil81
09-04-2008, 11:57 PM
Yeah dude. Pave the way for me. LOL. You are doing almost everything I will be doing to my truck, except with nicer equipment. I better step up my game when I go to do anything in my rig, since you did such a good job in yours already.

jdc753
09-05-2008, 09:29 AM
YAY for progress looks good man!

Thanks man, yea let a bunch of other things get in the way and slacked on getting my work done.


**** man looking nice

Thanks :D


get this done. we all want to see the end product

I'm tryin, I'm tryin :crap: Thanks!!


Yeah dude. Pave the way for me. LOL. You are doing almost everything I will be doing to my truck, except with nicer equipment. I better step up my game when I go to do anything in my rig, since you did such a good job in yours already.

haha, I'm glad to be your guinea pig lol. Too bad we are at completely different ends of the country otherwise I'm sure it would be cool to meet up and compare ideas. Thanks again on the compliments, now I just need to get off my butt and get r done lol.

IDSkoT
09-07-2008, 06:10 PM
Bro, this looks great. Let me tell you.
I have a '98 Mustang, and I was thinking of throwing in a screen. What screen you using? I was thinking of using a 7" Lilliput.
It all seems daunting, though. How much did the screen cost and the PSU? And is the PSU easy to hook up? And, can you try to explain how the PC turns into RCA? Is it just a connector?
I mean, I can only assume there's a splitter from the jack to the mids/highs and then another splitter from sub to sub on the HU?

jdc753
09-08-2008, 09:30 AM
Bro, this looks great. Let me tell you.
I have a '98 Mustang, and I was thinking of throwing in a screen.

Thanks man, it definitely takes a bit of work, at least going with an oversized screen, a 7" screen or so probably would have dropped right into my double din opening without much of a problem and look very clean.


What screen you using? I was thinking of using a 7" Lilliput.
It all seems daunting, though. How much did the screen cost and the PSU?

I am using this screen here, Shark 10.4" touchscreen (http://www.gooddeals18.com/product/SHK1040/new_104_Desktop_TFT_LCD_Monitor_w_Touch_Screen__VG A.html) the price goes up and down I would say weekly if not daily. I snagged it down around $180 which I think was pretty much the cheapest I have seen it, and it was originally $215 about a year or so ago. 7" Lilliput would be a good choice for sure.

The PSU I got is this OPUS 320W ATX/BTX (http://www.opussolutions.com/index.php?p=product&id=49) As far as I know it is the biggest one out there and could be overkill for my system but I didn't build the most efficient system I could since if it doesn't work out for me I would rather build a desktop computer out of the left over parts instead of having some specialty components to sell. There are some pretty sweet little parts out there though that can be used easily for carPC stuff. I bought mine directly from OPUS and its listed at $185 atm on their page.


And is the PSU easy to hook up?

Pretty easy, the setup is a bit more tricky but its not hard at all. The primary pig tail has 3 12v+ wires and 3 ground wires that can be hooked up just like any amp, I have mine connected to 8ga kicker wire that runs into my distrobution blocks. Then there is a standard remote turn on wire, this gets connected just like an amp to the back of the HU. There are a few extra wires also that can be used for some other custom features. Connecting it to the computer side is very simply, it comes with a harness that plugs into the PSU and then plugs into the standard 24pin and 4pin mobo connectors as well as another harness that connects to the hard drive and whatever else you might have.

The hardest setup I found was the jumpers that needed to be setup. They only include one jumper with the PSU (least in my case.) It wasn't that it was hard or anything but that it seems in my system it works best without any jumpers. There is one that sets the startup/shutdown voltage and then startup/shutdown timer which I will need to set later on. Currently mine is setup with a standard ATX power/reset button that I cut out of an old case.


And, can you try to explain how the PC turns into RCA? Is it just a connector? I mean, I can only assume there's a splitter from the jack to the mids/highs and then another splitter from sub to sub on the HU?

Yes, I am using just a simple connector. You can buy them at Radio Shack, its just a 3.5mm headphone jack (out of the computer) and then turns into 2 male RCA connectors which I bought RCA connector barrel plugs so I could extend it all the way up to the Head unit. At the head unit I bought an Alpine auxilary input harness that the RCA's plug into. Works like a charm so far.

hope this helps, let me know if ya got any more questions and I will see what I can do.

bigbangtheory
09-08-2008, 10:35 AM
Nice job on the tweeters! Looking like everything is coming along. Also I didn't read too much, but did you get the new SI's yet?

If not, I betcha you are dieing over there.

Looks awesome and can't wait to see the final pics!

jdc753
09-08-2008, 11:21 AM
thanks man. As usual things come up and I didn't even get to touch the tweeters all day saturday and most of the day sunday. But I got them roughed up and started to do the bondo/sanding process. Bit more work on them tonight with the bondo and lots of sanding and then get around to painting and finishing them up.

No SI mags yet :crap:

Last I heard they have arrived at Nick's shop in NC, so hopefully a week or so for them to come up the coast to MA. I will most certainly get some pics posted when they come in, and then hopefully get the box built for them lol.

bigbangtheory
09-08-2008, 11:53 AM
thanks man. As usual things come up and I didn't even get to touch the tweeters all day saturday and most of the day sunday. But I got them roughed up and started to do the bondo/sanding process. Bit more work on them tonight with the bondo and lots of sanding and then get around to painting and finishing them up.

No SI mags yet :crap:

Last I heard they have arrived at Nick's shop in NC, so hopefully a week or so for them to come up the coast to MA. I will most certainly get some pics posted when they come in, and then hopefully get the box built for them lol.

I hear you on "things coming up." I am always busy with either work or watching the little one. I don't get much time to myself at decent hour of the day anyway.

I wish I could have gotten 1 or 2 of the mags, but money is an issue with me, although I have plenty of it, saving for a house has made me broke unless an emergency comes up. I tried telling my wife going bassless was an emergency, but she wouldn't have it! :laugh:

Can't wait for the pics mang!

jdc753
09-08-2008, 01:33 PM
I hear you on "things coming up." I am always busy with either work or watching the little one. I don't get much time to myself at decent hour of the day anyway.

I wish I could have gotten 1 or 2 of the mags, but money is an issue with me, although I have plenty of it, saving for a house has made me broke unless an emergency comes up. I tried telling my wife going bassless was an emergency, but she wouldn't have it! :laugh:

Can't wait for the pics mang!

Always stuff last minute it seems, and can't be out there at like 10pm running the sander or saw, or trying to run wires with a flash light lol.

I am trying to get the the house thing, hoping to get this out of my system before 2009, least thats what I am telling myself. Gonna buckle down on paying off the truck and saving and depending on market and what I can find hopefully be in a house in about 2 years or so, if things go well and such.

Being bassless is most certainly an emergency for sure lol. Hard to function without it.

Maybe someone getting a mag just to try will put it up on here after a month of use and ya can snag it up for cheap.

IDSkoT
09-09-2008, 12:49 AM
Thanks for the response bro.

I was thinking, and even my new PC (C2D 2.66GHz + 2GB of RAM with nothing on it) takes about a minute to start-up... and an average drive is no longer than 10 minutes. So that's 10% of the time for start-up. I was thinking of running an alternate battery and keeping the PC on stand-by mode. I haven't done the math or any sort of calculations... just an idea I'm throwing around.
Have a wire coming from the 'Run' switch on my ignition that opens/closes a relay that puts it in / out of series with my main battery/alt. So it can charge when my car is on, but won't kill my main battery if it's off.
I'm not really sure how much power an average PC uses on Stand-by.

The odds of me actually doing this is low.
My current fiscal policy (which is tight as it is) is going for a MIDI Keyboard and 'visiting my girlfriend in College' Fund. 3 hour drive each way is a *****... but worth it.

Anyway, I was just curious if it was possible. If it is, you might want to look into it... especially if you're thinking of putting in a second batt for your subs.

jdc753
09-09-2008, 09:55 AM
Yea a lot of the guys who have done carPC's do something similar, well I believe they set their computers to go into Hibernation I think. I'm not sure all the details but it uses a bit less power than stand by or something. But the mobo has to support it. I do like your second battery idea, I am going to have to look into do that stuff down the road. For now I just wanna get the basics installed and work on fine tuning it, for things such as that. I hear ya on the budget thing I just wanna get this stuff done and then I know I will be cut off from spending for quite a while, no gf helps on having truck money lol.

Progress on the sail panels, I worked from when I got home at 6:30 till little after 10:30 last night sanding and finishing these. Not sure so much on how the texture came out but I guess its all a learning process.

My little work station. Yes still using the cheap crappy bondo brand filler, but I had some left over and gonna use it up before I step up to the Rage gold.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01766.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01767.jpg

Holding up a stock panel that I snagged out of my dads truck for comparison. This is the same panel that is on the left in the pic.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01768.jpg

closer shot for comparison. Texture certainly isn't the greatest, not sure how to replicate the leather grain with the SEM texture spray but I am still learning, and if I am not holding up a factor one I don't think anyone will be able to tell.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01769.jpg

Tonight I will get them cut open for the tweeters and wires and get them installed in the truck.


Teaser pic on the screen progress.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01765.jpg

attempting to figure out how I want to mount it all and keep the cables happy and things installed properly. I just found my old dash kit collecting dust at the bottom of a box of install stuff. Going to try using it and a bit of fiberglass to make something that will hold the screen, the screen guts, the cd drive and if I have room a USB hub and mount firmly into the dash.

jdc753
09-10-2008, 09:26 AM
Got the tweeter pods finished and in the truck.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01793.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01796.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01802.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01803.jpg

Spent about an hour and a half listening and fiddling with settings on the HU to tune things. Its sounding pretty good I think, certainly going to have to deaden it though as just these speakers are bringing out some vibrations and I'm sure that will just get worse with the subs. Godsmack - Voodoo really brought out some of the weak points in the doors so thats gonna be the first song I play after I get it all deadened and sealed. But installing the screen and get it 100% operational will be the next step.

mil81
09-10-2008, 11:03 AM
As always, good job man. Things are looking great in that rig. You gotta be proud of yourself for a install this intense.

jdc753
09-10-2008, 12:52 PM
As always, good job man. Things are looking great in that rig. You gotta be proud of yourself for a install this intense.

Thanks man, its coming along nicely so far. Its definitely a lot of firsts for myself in getting this thing accomplished, and learning all the while.

bigbangtheory
09-10-2008, 01:30 PM
Always stuff last minute it seems, and can't be out there at like 10pm running the sander or saw, or trying to run wires with a flash light lol.

I am trying to get the the house thing, hoping to get this out of my system before 2009, least thats what I am telling myself. Gonna buckle down on paying off the truck and saving and depending on market and what I can find hopefully be in a house in about 2 years or so, if things go well and such.

Being bassless is most certainly an emergency for sure lol. Hard to function without it.

Maybe someone getting a mag just to try will put it up on here after a month of use and ya can snag it up for cheap.

I always thought you had your own place for some reason. Maybe your younger than I thought, I never checked, but yeah saving for a house *****, because I want so many other things, lol! I do dump about 1000 bucks in rent and utilities on our apartment a month and still have money to get budget ****, but is hard some months. I really wish I had just kept the house I sold and added on for the room I needed. Oh well, you live and you learn.

I would love to snatch up a new mag for sure, rather new or used. So let me know when you are ready to sell yours, lol!;)

jdc753
09-10-2008, 02:02 PM
I always thought you had your own place for some reason. Maybe your younger than I thought, I never checked, but yeah saving for a house *****, because I want so many other things, lol! I do dump about 1000 bucks in rent and utilities on our apartment a month and still have money to get budget ****, but is hard some months. I really wish I had just kept the house I sold and added on for the room I needed. Oh well, you live and you learn.

I would love to snatch up a new mag for sure, rather new or used. So let me know when you are ready to sell yours, lol!;)

Yea not yet, I am 23 and graduated from school last year, essentially debt free other than my truck though. Debt is one thing that just makes my blood boil lol :verymad: So I am hoping to kill the truck loan as quick as possible or figure a way to budget it along with $1,500 or so a month for mortgage/and the other bills.

I doubt I will sell mine but I haven't even gotten them yet, I am hoping the 2 fit fairly easily between my front seats but worst case I may drop down to 1 to keep it more stealth like. I am really looking for some good bass though so who knows lol. If I do decide to sell and you don't have one by then I will be sure you get first dibs.

JBLCAMRY
09-10-2008, 02:33 PM
nice job on the amp rack / other stuff holder.

jeeper07
09-10-2008, 02:39 PM
hey i probably just missed it but do u have ne pics of how the mids are mounted, dont feel like searchin everything.

jdc753
09-10-2008, 03:37 PM
nice job on the amp rack / other stuff holder.

Thanks man, its currently holding a little less stuff, and will need a version 2 in the future.


hey i probably just missed it but do u have ne pics of how the mids are mounted, dont feel like searchin everything.

Naw sorry skipped over taking pics of that. I got some of test fitting I did about a year before installing them lol. But those baffles didn't work out and at the moment the mids are just mounted to the metal door :wow: yea its on the list of things to fix. The baffles stuck out too much and the door skin wouldn't go on, so when I get the deadener I am going to make it right.

jeeper07
09-10-2008, 03:39 PM
if u have a router pretty easy to make your own wooden baffel. Ive made some and sold them here before and its the only thing i will personally use to mount with from now on. Sometimes i wrap the wood in deadner too. Just thought id share that.

Black-Gorrilla
09-10-2008, 03:57 PM
i like the tweeter pods you made. the color looks a bit awkward in the pictures but im sure it's because of the flash and lighting.

jdc753
09-10-2008, 04:12 PM
if u have a router pretty easy to make your own wooden baffel. Ive made some and sold them here before and its the only thing i will personally use to mount with from now on. Sometimes i wrap the wood in deadner too. Just thought id share that.

Yea I have yet to try a router for anything, seems to be the hot ticket though. I am still using the ye ole trusty jig saw. I found a couple pics of the ones I had made out of 1/2" MDF but sadly the door panels didn't seem to like them.

Only one I have with them on the door. Its about half way through the process. The door metal bumps out in the area just for the speaker which makes it a pretty tight area.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/DSC01023.jpg


Finished product as I left them, after cleaning them up with the jig saw to follow the shape of the door skin
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/DSC01007.jpg

Test fit on the door, but with the speaker grill ring on.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01581.jpg

I think next month second skin will get some of my money from some damplifer and speaker tweaker kits.

IDSkoT
09-12-2008, 04:54 PM
You're lucky, haha. For my car I had to make this custom speaker holder since the stock one is like a 5x10... it's some ridiculous measurement. Luckily I'm creative and my Dad had a jigsaw... a POS Jigsaw that nearly ripped my hand off... but it did it's job.

mil81
09-12-2008, 05:50 PM
You're lucky, haha. For my car I had to make this custom speaker holder since the stock one is like a 5x10... it's some ridiculous measurement. Luckily I'm creative and my Dad had a jigsaw... a POS Jigsaw that nearly ripped my hand off... but it did it's job.

OOOOhhhh. Be careful with power tools. Check out my Dodge thread to see what a router did to my thumb a month ago. LOL.

jdc753
09-12-2008, 06:22 PM
OOOOhhhh. Be careful with power tools. Check out my Dodge thread to see what a router did to my thumb a month ago. LOL.

yea that didn't look soo good, least it wasn't any worse.

I been using most of these tools since I was around 5 or 7, only one I get yelled at for fiddling with was a small router I grabbed and turned on when I was about 8. From there on I learned how to use most of the struff and it can be scary what some of the stuff does.

Ever put down an old skill saw after making a cut and not notice that the guard failed to swing back, luckily they only spin around in a small 1' radius or so, but they like to cut their own cords when they do it :verymad:

mil81
09-12-2008, 06:26 PM
yea that didn't look soo good, least it wasn't any worse.

I been using most of these tools since I was around 5 or 7, only one I get yelled at for fiddling with was a small router I grabbed and turned on when I was about 8. From there on I learned how to use most of the struff and it can be scary what some of the stuff does.

Ever put down an old skill saw after making a cut and not notice that the guard failed to swing back, luckily they only spin around in a small 1' radius or so, but they like to cut their own cords when they do it :verymad:


LOL. That is the stuff I grew up with. I didn't do much when I was a kid, but when I did the old power tools my dad has had seen better days. I managed to keep the cords on everything though. LOL. Regardless I wish I had the experience with the tools most of you guys do. It's scary and tough to learn on your own sometimes. There's no way my boy (if I ever have a kid lol) will get through high school without taking a lot of wood work courses.

jdc753
09-12-2008, 06:34 PM
LOL. That is the stuff I grew up with. I didn't do much when I was a kid, but when I did the old power tools my dad has had seen better days. I managed to keep the cords on everything though. LOL. Regardless I wish I had the experience with the tools most of you guys do. It's scary and tough to learn on your own sometimes. There's no way my boy (if I ever have a kid lol) will get through high school without taking a lot of wood work courses.

Yea they certainly can be dangerous, specially to an unknowning kid. Almost like gun safety have to learn to have absolute utmost respect for the tools you are working with and understand how to use them properly.

I never personally cut a cord, but watched it happen a few times, and with the saw only about 2' away from me lol so I was glad I still had my toes, also steel toed boots FTW.

Same here I would never let me kid grow up not knowing how to use the stuff, its great trade/skill to know and understand even if you don't ever plan on building anything.

mil81
09-12-2008, 06:43 PM
Yea they certainly can be dangerous, specially to an unknowning kid. Almost like gun safety have to learn to have absolute utmost respect for the tools you are working with and understand how to use them properly.

I never personally cut a cord, but watched it happen a few times, and with the saw only about 2' away from me lol so I was glad I still had my toes, also steel toed boots FTW.

Same here I would never let me kid grow up not knowing how to use the stuff, its great trade/skill to know and understand even if you don't ever plan on building anything.


Exactly. That was me. I hated wood when I was a kid. Metal was strong. That was the cool thing to do. I can cut, I can weld, given the equipment I can run a lathe and a milling machine. Now that I'm not so narrow minded, and like to build anything and everything, I'm obviously suffering from the lack of wood experience.

Oh well, I can always show my kids my screwed up thumb, and say "learn now, so you don't end up like your old man" LOL.

redfred18t
09-13-2008, 01:52 AM
Wow dude I'm extremely impressed and the builds not even done. Also, it makes me wanna go nuts on my 07 f350 psd

btw, whereabouts in MA are ya from? I'm out in Chicopee :-/

bigbangtheory
09-13-2008, 09:27 AM
Yea not yet, I am 23 and graduated from school last year, essentially debt free other than my truck though. Debt is one thing that just makes my blood boil lol :verymad: So I am hoping to kill the truck loan as quick as possible or figure a way to budget it along with $1,500 or so a month for mortgage/and the other bills.

I doubt I will sell mine but I haven't even gotten them yet, I am hoping the 2 fit fairly easily between my front seats but worst case I may drop down to 1 to keep it more stealth like. I am really looking for some good bass though so who knows lol. If I do decide to sell and you don't have one by then I will be sure you get first dibs.

What degree did you get in College?

I betcha you pay a pretty penny in truck payment/gas a month in that sucker. I couldn't even afford the gas in that bish.

Let me know on the sub. I mean I hope you can get both of them in there as it would be pure ear ***, although one should suffice for most people. I would just want one and really need one to save space. My box is taking up to much room and need to do something about that. Should have went with 1 12, but had the box lying around, so said what the fawk and got 2 12's.

Good luck!

jdc753
09-14-2008, 09:17 PM
Wow dude I'm extremely impressed and the builds not even done. Also, it makes me wanna go nuts on my 07 f350 psd

btw, whereabouts in MA are ya from? I'm out in Chicopee :-/

Thanks man :D hopefully the rest of it comes out as good as what I got done so far. If you do decide to do some stuff on yours and ever have any questions don't hesitate to ask. I got the interior tear down pretty much to a science now.

Cool to see another local, rare enough an audio nut local but a diesel driver as well. I live in Norton, MA (bout 10 minutes down the road from the Comcast Center.) You have a PM


What degree did you get in College?

I betcha you pay a pretty penny in truck payment/gas a month in that sucker. I couldn't even afford the gas in that bish.

Let me know on the sub. I mean I hope you can get both of them in there as it would be pure ear ***, although one should suffice for most people. I would just want one and really need one to save space. My box is taking up to much room and need to do something about that. Should have went with 1 12, but had the box lying around, so said what the fawk and got 2 12's.

Good luck!

I got a Civil Engineering degree learned quite a lot of fun and interesting stuff, probably forgot more of it though :crap:

Yea I am not too happy with payments and fuel expenses. This is the first vehicle I have had a note on and would have gone for a cheaper truck but well I dunno lol. I ended up graduating with no debt so I kinda figured this is like my school loans and after busting my *** in school I was planning on getting a bike but dad said no go. Its got a 38 gallon tank, fuel at the local station when I drove by a few minutes ago was $4.35 :eek: so its most certainly not pretty.

I most certainly will. I am pretty sure they will both fit, but in the case I decide to change things up or don't like what I need to sacrafice for them to fit I will let you know. I occasionally like some heavy bass and figured 2 would be able to give me the extra kick when I want it.

jdc753
10-06-2008, 09:54 AM
Dang its been nearly a month since I did any updates. Well I finally got something. After nearly 3 weeks of driving with no dash I got it finished and installed last weekend. Still got some work to do to it to polish things up and complete things but its up and running and working good.

Onto the pics:

The original dash bezel
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01818.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01831.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01832.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01835.jpg



http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01862.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01904.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01910.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01911.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01921.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01922.jpg

Its been running pretty good and honestly for some reason I am thinking the audio sounds better with the aux input and playing audio from the computer instead of a CD or radio. The gapping hole to the right of the screen is going to get filled with a USB hub, audio input jack and maybe some other things that I can fit in there. I need to rerun the 12v power for the LCD since it is giving me a hiss through the speakers, also need to perminantly run the 5v power for the USB hub and DVD drive (the red/black wires coming out of that hole in the dash.) Oh and if the screen looks kinda crappy its because the protective film is still on it and its gotten pretty beat up over the months and weeks I have been working on it or just putting it down somewhere.

Other than that fabrication and install work I still need to do a bunch of software tuning and such and then it should be pretty good. I only have the audio and front end software setup, still need to hook up and install the GPS software and get all the other little addon parts, WiFi, HD radio (cheaper than adding to the alpine), TV Tuner card, as well as various software items and getting all my music and movies transfered over into the truck.

jeeper07
10-06-2008, 10:06 AM
i believe u forgot to post the part where its all back in the truck, done. Get on that for me, hahaha looking good man.

jdc753
10-06-2008, 10:13 AM
i believe u forgot to post the part where its all back in the truck, done. Get on that for me, hahaha looking good man.

Done!! Silly me hit Quick Reply instead of Go Advanced lol, so I had to edit it quick. Looks like you got in before I was done.

jeeper07
10-06-2008, 10:16 AM
Dang nice work. I dont know why ud leave the truck now...

jdc753
10-06-2008, 10:20 AM
Dang nice work. I dont know why ud leave the truck now...

Thanks man, thats sorta the goal lol :crazy: Saturday night when I got home from my 2.5hour drive back from CT I pulled in the driveway and was like hmm I wanna see what the movie looks like on this and how it sounds. DANG :eek: I gonna need to get me a good home theater after this lol. 2 little dinky MA audio 8's thrown in for temporary made the rumble of Elenor on Gone in 60seconds sound GREAT. Ended up just sitting in the truck for a good 30 minutes before I told myself I had to go inside lol.

JamesKarr
10-06-2008, 10:59 AM
Awesome build. Keep the pics coming

MikeyB
10-06-2008, 11:03 AM
Sweeeeet!

duece212
10-06-2008, 11:08 AM
Lookin good man!

mil81
10-06-2008, 11:18 AM
Yeah dude, that thing looks great. The only way to make the thing better would be to get rid of that stupid blue oval that's all over the background. Must be the stock computer crap. LOL. Just kidding man. Great work, as always.

duece212
10-06-2008, 11:56 AM
Yeah dude, that thing looks great. The only way to make the thing better would be to get rid of that stupid blue oval that's all over the background. Must be the stock computer crap. LOL. Just kidding man. Great work, as always.

:fyi: the blue oval adds HP and DB'z :D

mil81
10-06-2008, 12:07 PM
:fyi: the blue oval adds HP and DB'z :D

Oh no there are two of you in here. I might have to find myself a new forum. LOL.

jdc753
10-06-2008, 01:06 PM
Thanks guys!! :D It's great to get another thing marked off on my list of things. Plus its fun to play with.


Sorry no can do on removing that Blue oval, I think its burned into the LCD already :crap: Maybe I will take a picture just for ya showing the Ram on there. I just hope it doesn't release all my DB'z from my speakers and the Ohms in my woofers, would hate to have to go out and buy more DB'z to refill it, I hear DB'z is more per gallon than diesel :eek:



Oh no there are two of you in here. I might have to find myself a new forum. LOL.
Here ya go, maybe try this place HERE (www.powerstrokenation.com)

mil81
10-06-2008, 01:09 PM
Ignorant. LOL.

JayinMI
10-06-2008, 02:53 PM
If you are interested in car PC's check out the MP3car.com forums....

They have a lot of good info about mobo's, power supplies, etc.

Jay

dwright27
10-06-2008, 03:32 PM
what if you put the keyboard and touch pad on a motorized actuator that motorized out towards you :D

jdc753
10-06-2008, 04:09 PM
If you are interested in car PC's check out the MP3car.com forums....

They have a lot of good info about mobo's, power supplies, etc.

Jay

Yea thats where I did most of my learning and reading. Only got a couple of posts over there (same sn as here) though and no pictures of the install. I need to start doing a lot more reading and asking over there soon though so I can setup the wireless network and few other gadgets on it.

My install wouldn't be nearly complete if it weren't for the front end software info and power supply info I got off those forums. Road Runner is some pretty sweet stuff and operates very smoothly.



what if you put the keyboard and touch pad on a motorized actuator that motorized out towards you :D

That would be pretty crazy but I dunno if I am that good to pull off something like that. Hoping to have them both flip out on a small panel from my center console. Thinking about having just the touch pad flush mounted into the dash too so if I wanted I could change tracks or what not without even having to reach for the dash or even move my arm really.

dwright27
10-06-2008, 05:58 PM
Yea thats where I did most of my learning and reading. Only got a couple of posts over there (same sn as here) though and no pictures of the install. I need to start doing a lot more reading and asking over there soon though so I can setup the wireless network and few other gadgets on it.

My install wouldn't be nearly complete if it weren't for the front end software info and power supply info I got off those forums. Road Runner is some pretty sweet stuff and operates very smoothly.




That would be pretty crazy but I dunno if I am that good to pull off something like that. Hoping to have them both flip out on a small panel from my center console. Thinking about having just the touch pad flush mounted into the dash too so if I wanted I could change tracks or what not without even having to reach for the dash or even move my arm really.

what about a folding actuator for ease of use ...... idk just push the button and whammmm she folds on out :D

Echo42987
10-06-2008, 06:01 PM
Have you gotten the Polks up and running yet? Always wanted to read a good review on them?

jdc753
10-06-2008, 07:49 PM
what about a folding actuator for ease of use ...... idk just push the button and whammmm she folds on out :D

I might have to do some research on this and see what I could come up with. I'm sure it could be implimented just another thing for me to try and learn how to build lol.


Have you gotten the Polks up and running yet? Always wanted to read a good review on them?

Yes the polks have been installed for a while now. Much of the problem with me writing a review on them is having never owned or getting a really good listen to some other components. I honestly can't find a single thing wrong with them that is for sure. However my doors aren't deadened yet so I don't know the full extent to which they can play. Also one of the crossovers had a bad tweeter network in it, so I have been running them active since I got them. Maybe when I get the doors deadened

They do seem to have a pretty good kick to them currently with the hack install however not as much as some other setups I have heard. Most certainly wouldn't call them harsh at all and very easy to listen to. I can have them cranked for hours and never have my ears feel anything but love for them. Most certainly great build quality, woofers are nice and heavy and look great, they also have nice screw terminals instead of the simple spade ends. The tweeters seem to need to be on axis to get the upper most frequencies. Polk recommends when running active for them to be crossed no lower than 3.2khz at 18db slope and they sound great crossed there, and the mids seem to play down to 50hz without any problems. 100w or so does seem to be what they will handle when active, I have had a few occasions of smelling something from them after running them for a few minutes at higher than loud volumes. Crossovers are definitely quite large, and heavy too with the heat sink they are on. Wish I had a chance to really listen to them run passive so I could compare them to active especially since these crossovers seemed to be very well built.

Guess thats at least a mini review for ya at least of what I feel about them. Can't think of anything they are missing and they most certainly have no faults that I have found so far.

Rawr-DQ
10-07-2008, 07:44 PM
I'm pretty impressed with all the work you've done so far, since it's your first time. You did quite a nice job its almost hard to believe.

Very nice man, very nice.

jdc753
10-07-2008, 10:33 PM
I'm pretty impressed with all the work you've done so far, since it's your first time. You did quite a nice job its almost hard to believe.

Very nice man, very nice.

Thanks man :D Did a lot of research while saving my money and getting ideas from others on here and such.

One day I may try and tackle the doors to get some 8's in there, got quite a few ideas from looking through your thread and your build up of the doors.

jdc753
10-17-2008, 11:08 AM
Guess a slight update. No major tangible progress but a few things have happened.

First off, Mags should be at my doorstep this coming Wednesday (according to UPS tracking numbers so its totally legit) :woot:

Also I had some good tuning done by someone who actually knows what they are doing lol. He spent 2 hours listening and tuning and teaching, was VERY useful and hopefully it will help me on the path to understanding what I am listening too and who knows MAYBE some day competing in some IASCA or similar comps.

With a good boost around 63hz the SR6500's really come to life :D Even in the undeadened doors there is a great deal of midbass. The sound is leaps and bounds over what I had before, I fiddled with time alignment but never really got into equilizing the whole system. This is also where we found a MAJOR downside to the 9887, the 5 band PEQ is pretty stupidly limited. Either way I am loving the components even more so now and can't wait to get the system rouneded out with the subs and at least then have a "complete" system and can focus on the install and then thinking about upgrading/adding gear.

Wouldn't be a good update if I didn't have any pictures. So here is what I got.

Got the Center console pulled from the truck to gut it and take measurements and see what I really have to work with.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01937.jpg

Currently, I am looking at simply removing the lower cushion and just replacing it with a sub box and maintaining the upper console portion. Would be sweet to add a sub and maintain full use of this as a middle seat but I don't really see that happening.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01938.jpg

Great part of trucks, Built in workbench :)
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01942.jpg

Back together minus the lower cushion.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01944.jpg

So not looking like I have much room to keep this simple. The rails bolt to the lower metal pan as well as the arms to the upper console, which isn't what I was hoping. To ditch the lower pan and make a nice downfiring box I will either need to cut the pan, or attach the rails to the box and the upper console to the box and replace the pan. OR build the box, attach the console to the box and then figure out a way to bolt the entire assembly to the floor of the truck.

From what I can tell I have about 2.15ft^3 for the entire enclosure, not interior volume but the volume the enclosure can occupy. I really want to do a downfiring box since it will allow the sub to load off the floor, plus I want to direct it towards the front of the truck. I plan on building at the very least 3 boxes. One will hold both subs without much regard to overall size of the box but just to get both subs in the truck. Another will be more of a stealth minimal build for a single sub and see if I can maybe get something that will completely allow use of the center seat. The third is something I stumbled on a little while ago and still learning about.

This is a quick sketch I did for the 3rd design.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/isobaricbox.jpg

For most this is probably not a new concept, but for me it is. I read about 4 pages of discussion on why this style box was used in a Dodge ram for a pair of JBL WGTi 10's. These subs also required 1ft^3 as the mags do. This design is a planar loading isobaric box (at least as I read it.) This will allow me to cut in half the required sealed volume for the single sub and the second sub will essentially be free air. This allows for the output to be directed towards the front of the truck as well as be downfiring and make for a fairly cool looking build with some plexi and such.

This also cuts the output to be equivalent to a single woofer though. The secon sub is wired in revers polarity of the sealed sub so that they will work in unison through the upper coupling chamber. The second sub will have sort of a shroud around it to direct the output towards the floor and then out towards the dash.

Oh well, those are my thoughts and updates. I would love to hear more ideas/thoughts/criticism on the box design and what not. I am thinking of sealing the output from the rear and sides of the console and forcing all output to head towards the front instead of just general downfiring in all directions. These are all thoughts and stuff I will have to experiment with or hopefully maybe get some direction from people who have more knowledge than me.

MikeyB
10-17-2008, 11:45 AM
Yup, thats the one big downside to the 9887....the Parametric EQ is very limited...unfortunately :(

Thats why I had considered the 880 at first. However, I can get by with the 9887's EQ since I love the layout of the deck, Im also liking the crossover and t/a as well..

jdc753
10-17-2008, 07:46 PM
Yup, thats the one big downside to the 9887....the Parametric EQ is very limited...unfortunately :(

Thats why I had considered the 880 at first. However, I can get by with the 9887's EQ since I love the layout of the deck, Im also liking the crossover and t/a as well..

Yea I always wanted to run an alpine for the longest time. Liked the looks and feel of the older ones I got to fiddle around with. Definitely love the deck and alpine products, never really been a big fan of the pioneer's but looks like in the future I will be looking for something different. Before I decided to do the computer build I was gonna run a W205/H701 combo, had the W205 and woulda been good but ended up changing things up.

Oh well live and learn and try new things lol :crazy:

orangecounty1
10-18-2008, 07:44 AM
I am using this screen here, Shark 10.4" touchscreen (http://www.gooddeals18.com/product/SHK1040/new_104_Desktop_TFT_LCD_Monitor_w_Touch_Screen__VG A.html) the price goes up and down I would say weekly if not daily. I snagged it down around $180 which I think was pretty much the cheapest I have seen it, and it was originally $215 about a year or so ago. 7" Lilliput would be a good choice for sure.

The PSU I got is this

i have the same screen, got it for the same price you paid as well a while back. i need to build the PC for the mini cooper soon...i may PM u later about some questions as far as the PSU goes

MikeyB
10-18-2008, 10:49 AM
Yea I always wanted to run an alpine for the longest time. Liked the looks and feel of the older ones I got to fiddle around with. Definitely love the deck and alpine products, never really been a big fan of the pioneer's but looks like in the future I will be looking for something different. Before I decided to do the computer build I was gonna run a W205/H701 combo, had the W205 and woulda been good but ended up changing things up.

Oh well live and learn and try new things lol :crazy:

Yep, I was originally gonna go with the pioneer but decided against at the last second just cause I didnt want to have a rca ground loop issue.

But I think Im gonna pick one up once I get my truck goin and swap the 9887 into the truck.

bigbangtheory
10-18-2008, 11:41 AM
The computer came out really nice bud.

Look forward to your review on the new mags. Looks like you will have many options with the 3 boxes you are building. Keep up the good work mang!

I need to find a good tunner as well. I **** at it!

jdc753
10-18-2008, 05:45 PM
i have the same screen, got it for the same price you paid as well a while back. i need to build the PC for the mini cooper soon...i may PM u later about some questions as far as the PSU goes

PM'ed ya back. Looking forward to seeing what ya get done.


Yep, I was originally gonna go with the pioneer but decided against at the last second just cause I didnt want to have a rca ground loop issue.

But I think Im gonna pick one up once I get my truck goin and swap the 9887 into the truck.

Yea for a while I was looking long and hard at em, but still just really wanted to at the least try an alpine. Gonna be a while before I get the chance to upgrade though, maybe just keep my eyes peeled on the classifieds.


The computer came out really nice bud.

Look forward to your review on the new mags. Looks like you will have many options with the 3 boxes you are building. Keep up the good work mang!

I need to find a good tunner as well. I **** at it!

Thanks man :D The computer is definitely pretty fun but most certainly a full time hobby in and of itself. I can see how its not for everyone and maybe not fully for me lol. Its fun and all but does take a bit of fine tuning to get up and running fully. Like I kept having a little pop up telling me that my touch screen drivers weren't installed (even though the screen worked.) Then when I went to install the drivers to get rid of the pop up the touchscreen stopped working. So getting rid of that one little pop up instead of simply ignoring it like I had for a few weeks ended up taking me about 30 minutes of fooling around with drivers lol.

Yea may take a little while but I will most certainly be posting plenty of pics of them when I first get them in and initial comments. Then start some of the good audible reviews as I get the boxes built.

Yea it was really sweet, and best of all instead of just simply getting it tuned I learned a ton and hopefully will be able to tune on my own eventually.

bigbangtheory
10-19-2008, 11:30 AM
PM'ed ya back. Looking forward to seeing what ya get done.



Yea for a while I was looking long and hard at em, but still just really wanted to at the least try an alpine. Gonna be a while before I get the chance to upgrade though, maybe just keep my eyes peeled on the classifieds.



Thanks man :D The computer is definitely pretty fun but most certainly a full time hobby in and of itself. I can see how its not for everyone and maybe not fully for me lol. Its fun and all but does take a bit of fine tuning to get up and running fully. Like I kept having a little pop up telling me that my touch screen drivers weren't installed (even though the screen worked.) Then when I went to install the drivers to get rid of the pop up the touchscreen stopped working. So getting rid of that one little pop up instead of simply ignoring it like I had for a few weeks ended up taking me about 30 minutes of fooling around with drivers lol.

Yea may take a little while but I will most certainly be posting plenty of pics of them when I first get them in and initial comments. Then start some of the good audible reviews as I get the boxes built.

Yea it was really sweet, and best of all instead of just simply getting it tuned I learned a ton and hopefully will be able to tune on my own eventually.

Sounds good mang! I for one would never even try a car PC, because I el sucko at regular PC's, lol !So you are one up on me in reguards to that.

Look forward to the pics and good luck!

orangecounty1
10-19-2008, 11:55 AM
Sounds good mang! I for one would never even try a car PC, because I el sucko at regular PC's, lol !So you are one up on me in reguards to that.

Look forward to the pics and good luck!

you are an idiot.


lol jk

im trying to be like mobious :laugh:

PuZo
10-19-2008, 12:19 PM
I'd add more cooling to your puter, you need more airflow, there's gonna be alot of heat back there.

duece212
10-19-2008, 12:56 PM
Guess a slight update. No major tangible progress but a few things have happened.

First off, Mags should be at my doorstep this coming Wednesday (according to UPS tracking numbers so its totally legit) :woot:

Also I had some good tuning done by someone who actually knows what they are doing lol. He spent 2 hours listening and tuning and teaching, was VERY useful and hopefully it will help me on the path to understanding what I am listening too and who knows MAYBE some day competing in some IASCA or similar comps.

With a good boost around 63hz the SR6500's really come to life :D Even in the undeadened doors there is a great deal of midbass. The sound is leaps and bounds over what I had before, I fiddled with time alignment but never really got into equilizing the whole system. This is also where we found a MAJOR downside to the 9887, the 5 band PEQ is pretty stupidly limited. Either way I am loving the components even more so now and can't wait to get the system rouneded out with the subs and at least then have a "complete" system and can focus on the install and then thinking about upgrading/adding gear.

Wouldn't be a good update if I didn't have any pictures. So here is what I got.

Got the Center console pulled from the truck to gut it and take measurements and see what I really have to work with.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01937.jpg

Currently, I am looking at simply removing the lower cushion and just replacing it with a sub box and maintaining the upper console portion. Would be sweet to add a sub and maintain full use of this as a middle seat but I don't really see that happening.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01938.jpg

Great part of trucks, Built in workbench :)
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01942.jpg

Back together minus the lower cushion.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01944.jpg

So not looking like I have much room to keep this simple. The rails bolt to the lower metal pan as well as the arms to the upper console, which isn't what I was hoping. To ditch the lower pan and make a nice downfiring box I will either need to cut the pan, or attach the rails to the box and the upper console to the box and replace the pan. OR build the box, attach the console to the box and then figure out a way to bolt the entire assembly to the floor of the truck.

From what I can tell I have about 2.15ft^3 for the entire enclosure, not interior volume but the volume the enclosure can occupy. I really want to do a downfiring box since it will allow the sub to load off the floor, plus I want to direct it towards the front of the truck. I plan on building at the very least 3 boxes. One will hold both subs without much regard to overall size of the box but just to get both subs in the truck. Another will be more of a stealth minimal build for a single sub and see if I can maybe get something that will completely allow use of the center seat. The third is something I stumbled on a little while ago and still learning about.

This is a quick sketch I did for the 3rd design.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/isobaricbox.jpg

For most this is probably not a new concept, but for me it is. I read about 4 pages of discussion on why this style box was used in a Dodge ram for a pair of JBL WGTi 10's. These subs also required 1ft^3 as the mags do. This design is a planar loading isobaric box (at least as I read it.) This will allow me to cut in half the required sealed volume for the single sub and the second sub will essentially be free air. This allows for the output to be directed towards the front of the truck as well as be downfiring and make for a fairly cool looking build with some plexi and such.

This also cuts the output to be equivalent to a single woofer though. The secon sub is wired in revers polarity of the sealed sub so that they will work in unison through the upper coupling chamber. The second sub will have sort of a shroud around it to direct the output towards the floor and then out towards the dash.

Oh well, those are my thoughts and updates. I would love to hear more ideas/thoughts/criticism on the box design and what not. I am thinking of sealing the output from the rear and sides of the console and forcing all output to head towards the front instead of just general downfiring in all directions. These are all thoughts and stuff I will have to experiment with or hopefully maybe get some direction from people who have more knowledge than me.

Very cool on the center console idea. There is a dood over on f150online that did the same, console box with the top piece of the console still attached/working.

Been thinking about doing the same only putting my two batteries in a box replacing the bottom part of the mid seat/console, but still having the top attached.

Good **** man

jdc753
10-19-2008, 01:41 PM
Very cool on the center console idea. There is a dood over on f150online that did the same, console box with the top piece of the console still attached/working.

Been thinking about doing the same only putting my two batteries in a box replacing the bottom part of the mid seat/console, but still having the top attached.

Good **** man

Thanks man :) I'm hoping it will work out well.

That sounds like a pretty good idea there, would leave plenty of room for a pair of good sized batteries. I am thinking if I ever have to add batteries I am gonna try and make a box to go along the passenger side frame rail tucked up under the bed skin ahead of the back tire. I got plenty of room with my crew cab long bed along the frame rails lol :crazy:

jdc753
10-22-2008, 07:44 PM
They Are Here!!!!!

I know people have seen all the prototype pics, but these are my subs dog gawn it.

Onto the Strip show

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01953.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01954.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01955.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01957.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01958.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01959.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01960.jpg



They make a cute couple lol.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01967.jpg

and pretty shallow to boot.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01968.jpg

Yes I know they aren't the best looking specially with the basket and all but they seem to be pretty nicely built and all. Bout 25lbs apiece.

Will have to see how they fit into the truck and all, probably won't be able to get to that until this weekend though. May have to whip up a small test enclosure just to try em out and see how they sound/break em in. Then when I get time, get a good start on designing and incorporating the other 3 boxes into the center console.

duece212
10-22-2008, 07:46 PM
right on man, can't wait to see them come together

mil81
10-22-2008, 07:51 PM
Congrats man. It's good to see those things finally came in.

jdc753
10-22-2008, 08:33 PM
thanks guys. Really nice to finally have them in my hands for sure. Hopefully at least get a little box whipped up in the few hours after work this week. Will have to pick up some more speaker wire and such at some point though. Hopefully get them in and bumping by the weekend though. Will be a while before its permanent though :(

Can't wait to hear them, its been a while since I have had subs, so will sure be nice.

jeeper07
10-22-2008, 09:06 PM
EXCITING! ill b expecting to have some chats w u about those subs. my audio should b sooner then later.

jdc753
10-22-2008, 09:08 PM
EXCITING! ill b expecting to have some chats w u about those subs. my audio should b sooner then later.

sweet, sounds good to me. Thinking I will pick up a sheet of MDF tomorrow on the way home from work, and seeing how much time I got whip something up and get something rigged up to make them sing lol.

jeeper07
10-22-2008, 09:09 PM
sweet! i like how they are shallow. if they sound good enough maybe even a few will pop up in my truck

claytonedberg
10-22-2008, 09:17 PM
hey thats a good set up i have never fb before ether just have done basic boxes good job

jdc753
10-23-2008, 12:33 AM
sweet! i like how they are shallow. if they sound good enough maybe even a few will pop up in my truck

I'll definitely be writing a review up of what I think and let ya know. Looking forward to the audio portion of your truck. Should be sweet :D


hey thats a good set up i have never fb before ether just have done basic boxes good job

Thanks man :) I was surprised at how easy it really is. I mean its certainly not the easiest thing but really not as bad as I first though. Take a bit of patience and such though with letting things set up and adding layers then working with the body filler and getting it all smooth.

Blown33Daytona
10-27-2008, 05:26 PM
wow I've been missing out. I've been over at caraudioforum.com but this place is way better. Awesome build man i'm doing some of the exact same things to my truck. I've wanted to do a carputer ever since I discovered mp3car about 6 months ago and this thread makes me want to do it even more but that idea is on hold untill I get the rest of my system worked out. I went through your exact same thought process about a center consol box because I had 4 treo tsi tens in a tiny box behind my backseat that sounded like crap. Anyways I did a lot of measuring and designing to try to keep my top center consol and only remove the cusion but it looked like more work so I just built a new center consol any the way to the dash with one 12w7. This way I can make my cup holder where I want them and since only the back half is part of the actuall box I can put my future carputer inside and I have a nice sport for a keyboard. You might want to cosider this for you box build. It would be a perfect spot for your keyboard and tounchpad you also could incorperate your USB hub. Great project man can't wait to see it finished.

jdc753
10-27-2008, 07:59 PM
wow I've been missing out. I've been over at caraudioforum.com but this place is way better. Awesome build man i'm doing some of the exact same things to my truck. I've wanted to do a carputer ever since I discovered mp3car about 6 months ago and this thread makes me want to do it even more but that idea is on hold untill I get the rest of my system worked out. I went through your exact same thought process about a center consol box because I had 4 treo tsi tens in a tiny box behind my backseat that sounded like crap. Anyways I did a lot of measuring and designing to try to keep my top center consol and only remove the cusion but it looked like more work so I just built a new center consol any the way to the dash with one 12w7. This way I can make my cup holder where I want them and since only the back half is part of the actuall box I can put my future carputer inside and I have a nice sport for a keyboard. You might want to cosider this for you box build. It would be a perfect spot for your keyboard and tounchpad you also could incorperate your USB hub. Great project man can't wait to see it finished.


Thanks :D Its slowly getting better over time. I was strongly considering 3 or 4 Treo SSi 10's behind the seat when I started measuring up the truck, then the center console idea hit me just like for you.

I am still hoping to keep the upper console, I really like it and think it can be done lol. Currently it is looking like I will have to mount it too the box which I wasn't hoping to do but I think it will work out. I would love to get my hands on a junkyard truck somewhere so I could get a whole interior, then I could really go crazy and not have to worry too much. For now I will keep the upper console but a full console build could be in the future too.

I would love to see pictures of your build too. Hopefully mine will be "finished" someday but I doubt it will ever be 100% finished lol.

Electrodynamic
10-27-2008, 09:14 PM
As I've said over on my forum, great work! Everything is really well done so the final result should be VERY nice.

Electrodynamic
10-27-2008, 09:15 PM
PS: Change your signature. ;) The Mag's are here. :D

NeverEnuffBass
10-27-2008, 09:29 PM
Yeah dude, that thing looks great. The only way to make the thing better would be to get rid of that stupid blue oval that's all over the background. Must be the stock computer crap. LOL. Just kidding man. Great work, as always.

Hey at least Ford circled the problem... :p:

Nice work man, dash came out nice

jdc753
10-27-2008, 10:14 PM
As I've said over on my forum, great work! Everything is really well done so the final result should be VERY nice.

Thank you very much Nick. Gotta make a good home for your creations now :D


PS: Change your signature. ;) The Mag's are here. :D

Thanks for noticing lol, forgot about that.


Hey at least Ford circled the problem... :p:

haha, oh I have heard em all lol. Its gotten to the point where now I end up sayin those phrases just to beat my buddies to it so they don't get the satisfaction.


Nice work man, dash came out nice

Thank you very much :D

Blown33Daytona
10-28-2008, 05:17 PM
Yeah the treo's weren't bad subs there just isn't anywhere near enough airspace back there for them. They had a lot of midbass but just couldn't go low.

I was going to try and do the same thing but the way my floor is shaped wouldn't really allow me to do the down firing thing like a wanted it to do. Your ford might have more room, depth and width than my chevy. I think I remeber you mentions some about it being 15in. between your seats while mine is only 12.5in.

The junkyard idea would really make it nice. I might have attempter to incorperate the upper console if I had a backup.

My console is far from complete. I just finished building it a week ago and had to throw it in the truck for a test fit and to try out my new 12w7. The sub sounds really clean and gets plenty loud. jl recommends 1.39ft^3 plus the .1 that the sub displaces and my enclosure ended up being right at 1.5ft^3. I love it when things work out how i plan. I still have to install my cup holders, prep it for some sem texture paint and get the very top upolstered like the original. here's somem pics
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j38/Blown33daytona/IMG_0125.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j38/Blown33daytona/IMG_0126.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j38/Blown33daytona/IMG_0127.jpg

jdc753
10-28-2008, 07:44 PM
Yeah the treo's weren't bad subs there just isn't anywhere near enough airspace back there for them. They had a lot of midbass but just couldn't go low.

I was going to try and do the same thing but the way my floor is shaped wouldn't really allow me to do the down firing thing like a wanted it to do. Your ford might have more room, depth and width than my chevy. I think I remeber you mentions some about it being 15in. between your seats while mine is only 12.5in.

The junkyard idea would really make it nice. I might have attempter to incorperate the upper console if I had a backup.

My console is far from complete. I just finished building it a week ago and had to throw it in the truck for a test fit and to try out my new 12w7. The sub sounds really clean and gets plenty loud. jl recommends 1.39ft^3 plus the .1 that the sub displaces and my enclosure ended up being right at 1.5ft^3. I love it when things work out how i plan. I still have to install my cup holders, prep it for some sem texture paint and get the very top upolstered like the original. here's somem pics
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j38/Blown33daytona/IMG_0125.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j38/Blown33daytona/IMG_0126.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j38/Blown33daytona/IMG_0127.jpg



Looking good for sure. Should look really good when you get it finished up. I was toying with doing nearly the same thing to fit a 15" sub in my truck. I have 14" between the support arms on the console and about 17" between the seats so I could put the sub rear firing like yours and the back side of the sub would narrow down enough to get between the console supports.

jeeper07
11-10-2008, 10:10 AM
ahem.... updates

jdc753
11-10-2008, 10:59 AM
ahem.... updates

Well since you asked so nicely. Let me see what I got.

Not much but this is probably where my next pennies will be going...

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/1025081604-1.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/1025081604a-1.jpg

Thats the back side of my drivers side front brake rotor. Looks purty don't it lol. Also the thin brake pad was on the inside surface and the thick pad on the outside surface. Both on the same wheel. Something is fishy. The other 3 rotors are funky but not quite as bad as the drivers side front. All have abnormal wear/pitting/rusting on the braking surface ONLY on the inside surface. Slide pins seem ok and calipers seem ok as far as I know. For some reason though the inside pads on the other wheels all have a high spot down the middle of them while the outside pads all seem fine. :verymad: Maybe an excuse to upgrade the brakes, just wanna figure out the odd wear patterns before I put money into new parts or fixing the old parts and then have them get ruined again.

Hopefully some audio updates in the near future, my job and now it being dark when I get home hinder much progress during the week but hopefully something will be done soon.

duece212
11-10-2008, 11:01 AM
***** about the brakes, the outside pad looks **** near new. Crazy, does the outside of the rotor look better than the inside?

jeeper07
11-10-2008, 11:20 AM
hm that is weird, find you a ford truck forum see if that is a common flaw or something. Chances are if it happened to you its happened to someone else. Looks like it might be time for that mustang so that u can do some work to the truck hehe

jdc753
11-10-2008, 11:23 AM
***** about the brakes, the outside pad looks **** near new. Crazy, does the outside of the rotor look better than the inside?

It sure does, and on ALL the rotors lol. The other three are not nearly as bad as the front and show Nearly even pad wear with the inside pad being about even for thickness but with a bit of a high spot down the middle somehow YET no wear on the outside of the braking surface on the rotor. I really not too sure on what could be happening other than maybe warped rotors or maybe some super cheap crappy pads or something. I may see about getting the rotor turned or resurfaced and put new pads in it. OR if I figure it out and save some pennies put Powerslot cryo rotors and hawks pads in it, but thats gonna be about $500-600 or so all around.

I just find it really odd how its relatively consistant that only the inside part of the rotor is what looks bad while the outside part looks good. I posted about it on the diesel forum and no one else had similar experiences.

jdc753
11-10-2008, 11:27 AM
hm that is weird, find you a ford truck forum see if that is a common flaw or something. Chances are if it happened to you its happened to someone else. Looks like it might be time for that mustang so that u can do some work to the truck hehe

Yea might be time for it. Truck seems to drive and stop fine though, just stops like its got a loaded trailer behind it.


Here is the passenger side front, not quite as bad but still has the odd wear patterns.

Outside (everything looks pretty good nothing to alarming.)
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/DSC02140.jpg

Pads (Inside pad is on the top, noticed the grooves, the middle of the pad is actually higher than the outside)
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/DSC02139.jpg

Inside of the passenger side front rotor. :verymad: Least its consistent:crazy:

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/DSC02141.jpg

duece212
11-10-2008, 11:55 AM
Did you put those pads in? That wear pattern on the inside is crazy...maybe the wrong pads were put in there? I'd say the rotor was messed up enough on the inside it wore funky like that, but I've never seen one wear like that, especially the inners on all 4 wheels.

jdc753
11-10-2008, 12:09 PM
Did you put those pads in? That wear pattern on the inside is crazy...maybe the wrong pads were put in there? I'd say the rotor was messed up enough on the inside it wore funky like that, but I've never seen one wear like that, especially the inners on all 4 wheels.

nope the pads where in when I got the truck, I had done a quick inspection checking the outers and figured they were all good. 30k later I go to do some other work and pull off the rotor and find that crap. So now you can see how baffled I am since I have never seen it before either.

Probably gonna end up going the cheapest route to getting things good again, pads all around and either resurface these rotors if they are salvagable or put new ones on and then watch them to make sure it don't happen again. I would hate to go and spend good money on some powerslot cryo rotors and then have it be some defect in the calipers or the caliper mounting brackets and have the new rotors get F'ed up too.

redfred18t
11-10-2008, 01:23 PM
How many miles did you have on those brakes? (if you know offhand)

jdc753
11-10-2008, 01:27 PM
don't really know. I picked up the truck just over a year ago with 49k on the clock and it has about 74k on it now. I am assuming the brakes were done just before I got it since some of the pads have a good amount of meat still on them. When I first picked it up I thought it was low on braking power and thought something was wrong. But I had my dad drive it and he has driven the same truck before (friend of his has had 3 of these trucks) and he said the brakes were fine. So I went on with it.

Phiber Optik
11-11-2008, 04:22 PM
That looks like new pads were installed without turning (or replacing) the rotors.

Alex JB
11-13-2008, 09:17 AM
Your build is great!

***** about your rotors though :crap:

I had something similar on my old Lexus LS, it was the seal gone that keeps dust out of the area where the floating caliper slides along the rods that are part of the caliper mount tht's fixed to the hub assembly.
take the caliper off the mount and remove the caliper mount too and look for signs of pitting.
If those things don't slide properly it will just load one side (outside = piston side) of the rotor and the inside turns to junk.

orangecounty1
11-13-2008, 10:42 AM
nope the pads where in when I got the truck, I had done a quick inspection checking the outers and figured they were all good. 30k later I go to do some other work and pull off the rotor and find that crap. So now you can see how baffled I am since I have never seen it before either.

Probably gonna end up going the cheapest route to getting things good again, pads all around and either resurface these rotors if they are salvagable or put new ones on and then watch them to make sure it don't happen again. I would hate to go and spend good money on some powerslot cryo rotors and then have it be some defect in the calipers or the caliper mounting brackets and have the new rotors get F'ed up too.

run an oasis report!! lmao :laugh:

jdc753
11-13-2008, 11:18 AM
That looks like new pads were installed without turning (or replacing) the rotors.

Yea previous owner did something, or didn't do something lol. I am thinking my project for this weekend will be a very thorough brake down and cleaning/scraping/greasing along with some new pads and maybe getting the rotors turned if they still have enough material left on them, if not I will just use em up till I absolutely need to replace them.


Your build is great!

***** about your rotors though :crap:

I had something similar on my old Lexus LS, it was the seal gone that keeps dust out of the area where the floating caliper slides along the rods that are part of the caliper mount tht's fixed to the hub assembly.
take the caliper off the mount and remove the caliper mount too and look for signs of pitting.
If those things don't slide properly it will just load one side (outside = piston side) of the rotor and the inside turns to junk.

Yea I think thats the culprit for the drivers side front, sticking slides. But not too sure about the other wheels since the pads seem to be worn fairly evenly overall.


run an oasis report!! lmao :laugh:

haha, yea nothing showed up like that when I ran it on my truck. Guy brought it back to the dealer a few times cause the emblems were peeling and bubbling though, and the AC controller was messing up.

Hopefully it warms up a bit, but I doubt it, 40 outside and workin on some cold iron lol. Least if I get my exhaust in it will be more enjoyable when the job is done.

MikeyB
11-14-2008, 06:39 PM
Check and make sure the slides for the calipers are free (allowing the 'outside' pad to move). Could possibly be locked up causing only the inside pad to be pushed in from the piston in the caliper. Highly unlikely for all 4 to do that though I would think.

It would make sense to me though.

edit- Bah I missed the last couple posts :crap:

jdc753
11-19-2008, 11:32 AM
Talked with my parts guy the other day and he said that he has seen similar things with these trucks, the 2500HD's and a lot of the foreign cars. Says its something with a cheap metal or cheap manufacturing process they use. Voids will show up in the metal and once some moisture gets into them it will eat it away from the inside and such. Said they have gone to turn rotors that had just a small spot of rust on the surface and next thing they know it just keeps opening up bigger and bigger as they turn the rotor.

Oh well, some slight audio updates. Been driving around and listening to the mags. I don't seem to have any pics of the boxes actually in the truck. I have had the 2 mags downfiring between the seats and now have a single mag downfiring between the seats with the upper console bolted to it. These boxes were just whipped together in no time, and just some 5" rips slapped to the sides to make them downfiring, along with some nuts/bolts/washers to make my speaker wire connections. I had the pair wired to 2ohm and 0.5ohm, and now a single wired to 1ohm all off the 1500D.

Well here are some pics of the single mag box, final build will be much much nicer, probably some fiberglass and mdf. Thinking of maybe building an entire center console from the dash to the back of the front seats but I am trying to stay away from it. I am rather old fashioned with my trucks and like bench seating, but full console build with the pair of mags downfiring would be kinda cool and I could add some other stuff into the top of it.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC02158.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC02157.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC02156.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC02159.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC02160.jpg

Little bit of for-thought would have made the upper console a little lower and closer to the back of the console, but for now its not bad. In the truck its about 1-2" higher than before and 1-2" more forward. Actually puts it to be perfect position for using the touchscreen in the dash but I will try and get it a little lower with the final build. Thinking some junkyard hopping so I can find a upper console to hack up later on down the road would be nice too.

MikeyB
11-19-2008, 11:43 AM
Sweet!

jeeper07
11-19-2008, 11:50 AM
ok so im confused. you have 2 correct any reason as to running only 1? just a temporary setup for now or what

MikeyB
11-19-2008, 12:04 PM
ok so im confused. you have 2 correct any reason as to running only 1? just a temporary setup for now or whatYup, by the looks of it

jdc753
11-19-2008, 12:04 PM
Sweet!

Thanks man :D


ok so im confused. you have 2 correct any reason as to running only 1? just a temporary setup for now or what

Yea mostly just temporary. Benefit I see to running just 1 is less impact on the seating area and all, essentially doesn't change any of the legroom in the back and I like having my tranny tunnel open for sliding accross the seats and what not. I guess I am just old fashioned and like bench seating in my trucks. I can most likely still do it with 2 subs, but I will need to lower the internal volume a bit, use some fiberglass and most likely extend a bit into the rear leg room. I guess I just want to avoid building a full console from the lower dash to the back of the center seats. It would probably looks sweet and add some cupholders and other stuff to the top of it as well as hack up a junkyard console and keep the upper cubby and arm rest but for now I am trying to avoid it.

I guess I am just experimenting and looking to see what really feels and sounds good and finding a common ground between audio and form/function.

MikeyB
11-19-2008, 12:08 PM
Thanks man :D



Yea mostly just temporary. Benefit I see to running just 1 is less impact on the seating area and all, essentially doesn't change any of the legroom in the back and I like having my tranny tunnel open for sliding accross the seats and what not. I guess I am just old fashioned and like bench seating in my trucks. I can most likely still do it with 2 subs, but I will need to lower the internal volume a bit, use some fiberglass and most likely extend a bit into the rear leg room. I guess I just want to avoid building a full console from the lower dash to the back of the center seats. It would probably looks sweet and add some cupholders and other stuff to the top of it as well as hack up a junkyard console and keep the upper cubby and arm rest but for now I am trying to avoid it.

I guess I am just experimenting and looking to see what really feels and sounds good and finding a common ground between audio and form/function.Arent we all... lol:laugh:

jdc753
11-19-2008, 01:26 PM
Arent we all... lol:laugh:

seems to be the hardest part of it all :crap: Hopefully ya can get that 3-way setup all completed. Would be a shame to scrap that purty work.

jeeper07
11-19-2008, 01:28 PM
how r u liking those subs btw?

jdc753
11-19-2008, 01:42 PM
how r u liking those subs btw?

They are great so far. Nothing like any other subs I have every heard. What is always coming to my mind is, there is bass but there are not subs. The music is just there, no matter how loud I turn it up it never distorts. There is no audible sound of subs, only way to really know it when listening is the vibrations in the seat backs. Plenty of bass the few times I have listened to rap. Even a song that is normally unlistenable on most systems I have heard was reasonably ok with this, Slipknot - Duality.

If ya got any songs you can recommend to listen to let me know. One thing I am finding is that stuff is sounding better off the computer than it is off CD for some reason. Thinking I may sell/trade the 9887 for another similar SQ deck like a 880or 800PRS and see if that does anything for me.

Ray21
11-19-2008, 02:41 PM
Build looks great so far... what lift do you have on your truck?

About your brakes, I had a '90 F-150 that did the same thing on both fronts. I thought they were just warped rotors at first (pulsating brake pedal), but when we changed them out I was surprised.... cheap metal is right.

jdc753
11-19-2008, 03:05 PM
Build looks great so far... what lift do you have on your truck?

About your brakes, I had a '90 F-150 that did the same thing on both fronts. I thought they were just warped rotors at first (pulsating brake pedal), but when we changed them out I was surprised.... cheap metal is right.

Thanks man :D Its and RCD 4" lift. I love the look and function and all but honestly it didn't go up much at all lol. I had the truck next to another one that had a 4.5" Icon lift with stock tires and his truck was actually about 0.5" taller than mine with the 4" lift and oversized tires, but at the same time I can get in and out of my bed without much more trouble than stock so its nice in those regards.

Well I guess that totally narrows it down. I will see how much it is gonna be to put some wagnar rotors on all 4 corners and get it all cleaned up. Gonna be rough unless I can get some garage space, was 28 this morning, and that steel gets extra cold lol. I guess as long as I can get it done before the snow and slush comes I will be happy.

MikeyB
11-19-2008, 03:11 PM
seems to be the hardest part of it all :crap: Hopefully ya can get that 3-way setup all completed. Would be a shame to scrap that purty work.

Word. ^

I think I finally figured it out.

jdc753
07-16-2009, 10:33 AM
Well its been forever and a day since I have updated much of anything. I have been working on it slowly here and there where I get time and waiting to see if things work out before I post anything. Well I am happy to say they have worked out and much better than expected. I still got a lot of learning to do, and more patience to find but I am enjoying the new stuff and making it myself.

Here is my own version of a JL audio Stealthbox for the 08 Super Duty center console. The box is 0.93ft^3 before speaker displacement, has 7" of mounting depth, and fully retains about 4" of storage depth at the top, enough to hold the factory coin tray/divider.

Oh I am still not 100% finished got to finish up the little details that will really make it complete but it works 100% and fits 100% and I am pretty happy with it. Oh and the biggest shock to me, no rattles or anything just some nice solid bass.

Ok, onto the pics...

Nothing out of the ordinary except maybe a little tall (perfect height for an arm rest IMO)
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC02675.jpg

Sadly the amazing amount of storage these consoles have had to be given up, but still enough. The back wall was carpeted but I had to remove it, will be carpeted again (one of those little details to yet finish)
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC02681.jpg

Ok, now onto the construction...

The console actually disassembles quite easily which I was shocked by
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC02482.jpg

I don't have too many pictures of the work on the top storage portion. But what I found was that the bulk of the console (storage container) is in 2 pieces, so I took the top portion and ended up cutting it down by about 2 inches on the sides. From there I cut some 1/4" MDF to make a new floor and used fiberglass to join the two. This gave me about 4" of storage inside and maintained the latch for the cover and mounting points and such.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC02572.jpg

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC02582.jpg

Now here is the remaining space I was left to work with. I did a bit of trimming to the sides and such to get rid of some excess.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC02587.jpg

Now for the actually box itself. I figured I needed about 3 levels inside (top, middle/brace and a bottom) The middle piece is mostly for shaping the fiberglass to conform as tightly as possible to the inside of the enclosure and adds some bracing to stiffen it all up.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC02596.jpg

Here is the final frame work with some extra cleats and blocks to space things out properly before getting wrapped in cloth.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC02609.jpg

fits nicely into the console

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC02598.jpg

Now where things start to get ugly
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC02615.jpg

jdc753
07-16-2009, 10:33 AM
Much of this entire project is about experimenting and seeing what I can do. Since I didn't want the enclosure to sound hollow or just get beat up by the pounding of the sub I wanted it to be extra strong and have as much mass as I could possible get (much of the reason MDF is used normally) So I took the suggestion of another guy of adding some lead shot into the layers of fiberglass. I don't know how much it improved but I added a solid 5-7lbs to the enclosure and only increased the wall thickness but about an 1/8"
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC02620.jpg

Here is the finished product against the temporary box it was replacing
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC02667.jpg
I think I did pretty good since the fiberglass box weighted within 3 pounds of the larger MDF box, fiberglass box came out to be 24lbs.

Here is a view from the backside to see how it all stacks up inside the console.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC02671.jpg

This little factor opening is going to get filled nicely with this speaker terminal and some carpet
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC02672.jpg

And thats it, in the truck and sounding good
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC02677.jpg

Also I finally filled the hole I had in the dash for the longest time. Again with some fiberglass (my new favorite material lol)

Started by taping it all off and making a mold for some resin and 2 layers of matt
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC02644.jpg

I guess I don't have any construction pictures but I cut in the switch panel (wires got extended with some CAT 5) and cut in the USB 4-port hub. Little bondo, little paint and lots of sanding later and here is what I got
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC02665.jpg

Its not quite perfect but that gives me something to work on in the future (maybe ditching the wood grain) it sure beats a hole in the dash with wires and a hub falling out, and having to pull down to back seat to turn the computer on.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC02683.jpg

So there is my update and most recent progress. I still have more plans for the truck but gonna have to wait a while, its nice to get it in a semi presentable condition once again.

jeeper07
07-16-2009, 10:56 AM
lookin great bud, glad to see progress now only if i could have some progress on mine!

DB-Audio
07-16-2009, 01:40 PM
the dash looks awesome great work i love that 10" screen i've been considering getting a pcu in my truck but not sure if its worth it

jdc753
07-16-2009, 01:56 PM
lookin great bud, glad to see progress now only if i could have some progress on mine!

Thanks Joe, feels good to get something done again even if it is a little bit. Thats the biggest problem is when they get nearly finish, least finished enough to operate (system or vehicle) then the desire to continue working on them fades quickly. Plus for you when you start working on everybody elses stuff gets a little harder to do your own stuff.


the dash looks awesome great work i love that 10" screen i've been considering getting a pcu in my truck but not sure if its worth it

thanks man it works great too, just the right size to make it easy to use. If ya do go ahead with it and have some questions don't hesitate to ask, I would be happy to help ya out. It is definitely a bit involved and doesn't stop after everything is installed since you still have to configure all the software and such.

jeeper07
07-16-2009, 02:20 PM
Thanks Joe, feels good to get something done again even if it is a little bit. Thats the biggest problem is when they get nearly finish, least finished enough to operate (system or vehicle) then the desire to continue working on them fades quickly. Plus for you when you start working on everybody elses stuff gets a little harder to do your own stuff.

Exactly. But ive got everything here to start glassing my door panels so i think im finally gonna start :eek: ... Havin the truck able to dd made me stop workin on it for a few months tho. Have you done a lot of glass work before cause that stuff looks good man.

wyatt315
07-16-2009, 02:55 PM
im impressed to say the least.

jdc753
07-16-2009, 03:26 PM
Exactly. But ive got everything here to start glassing my door panels so i think im finally gonna start :eek: ... Havin the truck able to dd made me stop workin on it for a few months tho. Have you done a lot of glass work before cause that stuff looks good man.

Exactly, once its good enough to DD its tough to rip it back apart. Still looking forward to seeing what you do for doors and a center console and such, should look pretty slick if its anything like you told me about before.

Nope, all the glasswork I have ever done is in this thread starting with the little HU pod in the lower dash, then the tweeter pods on the doors then the dash and sub box. Learned most all of it studying here and DIYMA


im impressed to say the least.

Thank you :D

gnatnoop
07-17-2009, 05:44 AM
****, you do some good work..

statonburrell
07-17-2009, 03:05 PM
your center console sits up higher than the one in my 08, did you just space it up, so you could have more mounting depth or whats the deal?

statonburrell
07-17-2009, 03:05 PM
oh yeah, and everything looks amazing i like the computer... might have to do that to mine.

jdc753
07-17-2009, 03:32 PM
****, you do some good work..

Thanks man :D


your center console sits up higher than the one in my 08, did you just space it up, so you could have more mounting depth or whats the deal?

Yea I want to try and keep about 3" or so of space between the floor of the truck and the sub. Personally I like it up a bit higher like this, puts the top closer to where my jump seat console was height wise and perfect for an arm rest. I will get some more pictures of the underside when I get the mounting all finished up.


oh yeah, and everything looks amazing i like the computer... might have to do that to mine.

Thanks, yea the computer has come in handy quite a few times and is fun/easy to use once its all setup and running.

JL Audio
09-09-2009, 12:38 PM
I am honestly confused, not sure what you are refering to.


this:

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m213/bareorn/Stereo-computer%20instal/DSC01426.jpg

says energize III on it... wth is that?

CranberryYumYum
09-09-2009, 06:14 PM
electric brake for the trailer. anything that's pulling more than 1k lbs should have some sort of brake assist. would be bad if you can't stop the truck with a motorcycle trailer/tow dolly/flatbed behind you BEFORE you hit the gridlock on the interstate