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Towncar
06-22-2008, 07:05 PM
A friend of mine got on the subject of the ford gt, and the porsche somehow, and He argued the fact why the carrera gt which is lighter, and has more horsepower doesnt just walk off and leave the ford gt 0-186. This list I have here actually has the ford edging out the porsche by almost a second. 33 seconds for the ford, and 34 for the porsche. The only reason I could think of was that maybe the ford is geared a bit differently, but Im not sure. Any thoughts and comments on this?

http://www.dtmpower.co.za/forums/showthread.php?t=563

Oh by the way, I mentioned the gtr, because alot of people seem to be on nissans nuts about it, and even this guy on the video picks the gtr, even though it looses on the course vs the ford. If you watch this video, the only reason the gtr hung with it, was because of the turns. Otherwise the gt would pull off hard on the straight aways.

Just wanted to know some peoples thoughts and comments on these cars.

http://www.webridestv.com/xml/wbembedplayersmall.swf?movieid=84058

LOW ET
06-22-2008, 07:10 PM
porsche walks all over the ford. seen it in person

Lingerfelt
06-22-2008, 07:11 PM
I already expressed my comments in your last thread where you posted the times, and IMHO I believe driver error has a lot to do with the time differences.

I believe I referenced the times of a modified Porsche GT2 being slower than those of a less powerful modified Porsche Turbo Cabriolet. Unless the Turbo's gearing is better for 0-XXX mph, which I have a hard time believing, the GT2 is more powerful, lighter, and suffers from less drag (convertible top, and AWD).

Therefore, I don't believe the numbers on that site.

Also, the GTR is only as quick as it is because of it's transmission. :fyi: ;)

Towncar
06-22-2008, 07:14 PM
porsche walks all over the ford. seen it in person

Thats funny because most every posted high speed times ive seen favors the ford, none the less they always seem to be close between the two. Driver error?

Towncar
06-22-2008, 07:15 PM
I already expressed my comments in your last thread where you posted the times, and IMHO I believe driver error has a lot to do with the time differences.

I believe I referenced the times of a modified Porsche GT2 being slower than those of a less powerful modified Porsche Turbo Cabriolet. Unless the Turbo's gearing is better for 0-XXX mph, which I have a hard time believing, the GT2 is more powerful, lighter, and suffers from less drag (convertible top, and AWD).

Therefore, I don't believe the numbers on that site.

Also, the GTR is only as quick as it is because of it's transmission. :fyi: ;)

Some of the numbers are questionable, but at the same time, Ive seen quartermile times, and other stats favoring the ford at times, and a few for the porsche. With that said, they seem to go heads up.

Lingerfelt
06-22-2008, 07:16 PM
Thats funny because most every posted 1/4 time ive seen favors the ford, none the less they always seem to be identical. Driver error?

It's a well known fact that the CGT is not an easy car to drive.

Towncar
06-22-2008, 07:17 PM
^^ the shifter looks like it is a bit complicated, being up so high...

LOW ET
06-22-2008, 07:17 PM
there's video floating around somewhere, youtube or something. i happen to be there when it went down. the guy driving the porsche had driver error and still went around the ford. both cars were stock.

Towncar
06-22-2008, 07:20 PM
I find it still hard to believe. It comes down to the drivers in the quartermile with cars being this even.. One screw up, and either would loose. I cant base my thoughts off of 1 video, because ive seen the z06 beating a vett, but ofcourse it was modded, and no telling how crappy the driver was..

NMBR1SPT
06-22-2008, 07:20 PM
http://i32.tinypic.com/iyeypi.jpg

LOW ET
06-22-2008, 07:21 PM
the race was on the highway not the quarter mile. they went from 60-170+

Towncar
06-22-2008, 07:25 PM
Still not so sure about it, Unless we know how good both drivers are, and specificly spoke with both owners.. I see to many vids with cars claiming they are stock, but its far from the truth.. Not saying it isnt possible though. Any more thoughts on this? Dont be afraid to throw the gtr in the mix aswell. Im still interested in how it beat the porsche turbo myself on the track..

Towncar
06-23-2008, 02:07 AM
Well since we are on the subject, I will post these pics of what I ran into last week parked in a drive way.

The original gt40

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb199/mycrownvic01/DSC00417.jpg

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb199/mycrownvic01/DSC00418.jpg

RedlineAccord
06-23-2008, 12:18 PM
Not a replica/kit car? There are a lot of those floating around.

dman4486
06-23-2008, 12:24 PM
put the porsche motor in the gt and it becomes a porsche:fyi:

:laugh:

Lingerfelt
06-23-2008, 10:18 PM
Not a replica/kit car? There are a lot of those floating around.

+1, I'm unsure what the back window of a GT40 looks like, but that could definitely be a Fiero back window. It doesn't look proportionate.


put the porsche motor in the gt and it becomes a porsche:fyi:

:laugh:

:laugh:

97gp
06-23-2008, 10:21 PM
Where are all the GTR fanboys?

Jmac
06-23-2008, 10:37 PM
A friend of mine got on the subject of the ford gt, and the porsche somehow, and He argued the fact why the carrera gt which is lighter, and has more horsepower doesnt just walk off and leave the ford gt 0-186. This list I have here actually has the ford edging out the porsche by almost a second. 33 seconds for the ford, and 34 for the porsche. The only reason I could think of was that maybe the ford is geared a bit differently, but Im not sure. Any thoughts and comments on this?

http://www.dtmpower.co.za/forums/showthread.php?t=563

Oh by the way, I mentioned the gtr, because alot of people seem to be on nissans nuts about it, and even this guy on the video picks the gtr, even though it looses on the course vs the ford. If you watch this video, the only reason the gtr hung with it, was because of the turns. Otherwise the gt would pull off hard on the straight aways.

Just wanted to know some peoples thoughts and comments on these cars.

http://www.webridestv.com/xml/wbembedplayersmall.swf?movieid=84058 When you're talking about speeds this high, aerodynamics (particularly, drag) plays a huge role. I'm willing to bet the Carrera GT has more downforce (resulting in more drag) than the Ford GT.

Gearing really won't play a huge role at higher speeds unless they're horribly set up (which I guarantee neither are).

dragnix
06-23-2008, 10:40 PM
in the end, i'd still prefer to pull up in a Carrera GT rather than a Ford GT.

And **** the GT-R, it lost in a C/D comparo to the M3

99grandprixGT
06-24-2008, 12:28 AM
in the end, i'd still prefer to pull up in a Carrera GT rather than a Ford GT.

ya same here. and the exhaust note of a carrera GT is just amazing.

2fast2loud
06-24-2008, 08:58 PM
Nothing and I mean NOTHING has a better exhaust sound than Ford.

Ford GT> Porche> Ferrari

Lingerfelt
06-24-2008, 09:02 PM
:wow:

Jmac
06-24-2008, 09:02 PM
Any of you guys would cream yourselves if you owned any one of those 3 cars, so STFU ...

Lingerfelt
06-24-2008, 09:03 PM
As far as being an owner goes, none of these cars are even in the same league.

LouDEnougH?
06-28-2008, 01:08 AM
Seen a 2008 Cobra blue with white pin strips. :yumyum:

Creamed all over my mustangs interior when i noticed what it was. :yumyum:

ChrisUlrich
07-05-2008, 01:12 PM
You mentioned those three without bringing up the Corvette ZR1?

ZR1 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Everything car you mentioned in thread.