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Phlipbak
06-17-2008, 03:51 AM
I am thinking about getting these along with two Seas 27TAFNC tweets, all 4 running 100w a piece.. has anyone heard these Mach5's and will they sound better than my crappy 125w per side ED Intergrated 6500 components from two years ago? I need way more midbass, so this new setup will be active..

Also, any crossover suggestions for these? The mids and tweets will be hooked to one or two crossovers, whatever it takes, then to the amp for an active rig. Thanks!

Beerdrnkr
06-17-2008, 11:32 AM
I've heard that the midbass on them is awesome but the midrange frequencies don't sound all that great. They would be very nice in a 3way setup as a dedicated midbass or could probably be paired up with a nice large format tweeter that can go down to about 2000hz. I think they're pretty deep too, so you might wanna make sure it'll fit wherever you decide to put them.

Slammed
06-17-2008, 11:37 AM
I've heard that the midbass on them is awesome but the midrange frequencies don't sound all that great. They would be very nice in a 3way setup as a dedicated midbass or could probably be paired up with a nice large format tweeter that can go down to about 2000hz.


:confused:

Slammed
06-17-2008, 11:38 AM
http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13820

http://www.mach5audio.com/zen/index.php?main_page=popup_image_additional&pID=183&pic=2&products_image_large_additional=images/large/mli_sixtyfive03_LRG.jpg

:fyi:

djman37
06-17-2008, 11:41 AM
I am thinking about getting these along with two Seas 27TAFNC tweets, all 4 running 100w a piece.. has anyone heard these Mach5's and will they sound better than my crappy 125w per side ED Intergrated 6500 components from two years ago? I need way more midbass, so this new setup will be active..

Also, any crossover suggestions for these? The mids and tweets will be hooked to one or two crossovers, whatever it takes, then to the amp for an active rig. Thanks!

i really like mine. If I was serious about the sound, I'd put them in a ported enclosure. They're currently just mounted in the doors.

Beerdrnkr
06-17-2008, 11:44 AM
http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13820

http://www.mach5audio.com/zen/index.php?main_page=popup_image_additional&pID=183&pic=2&products_image_large_additional=images/large/mli_sixtyfive03_LRG.jpg

:fyi:

The diymobile review was the one I read, I was a little off but didn't feel like searching :crazy: I still say a tweeter that plays a little lower would help out with that set though.

Slammed
06-17-2008, 11:47 AM
;)

Slammed
06-17-2008, 11:50 AM
cliff notes from DIY:


The woofer plays from essentially 4kHz on down to wherever you want with little problem. Full range is of little problem for the woofer. You can't beat the laws of physics, but the woofer doesn't show any weakness other than some minor loss of cleanliness in sound. It does whatever you want it to, happily. The tweeter, despite being on the tiny side, does offer wide range capability and is usable from 3kHz on up with little problem and hasn't shown me any real hints of strain even at loud volumes. I've kind of settled on a happy point of 3.5kHz between the two, using the available 24dB/oct slope from my HU.

tweeter he is using is from the Alpine Type X comps

Beerdrnkr
06-17-2008, 12:02 PM
I was very close to buying a set about 2 months ago but decided to go with the peerless sls set. The Mach speakers can't be beat for the price IMO.

Slammed
06-17-2008, 12:02 PM
how are the peerless?

denim
06-17-2008, 12:18 PM
MLI's are a lot of speaker for the money. :)

Beerdrnkr
06-17-2008, 12:31 PM
how are the peerless?

I just got them working yesterday on a sundown 100.2 and they get low and sound great in the midbass region my doors are heavily deadened but I need a baffle. I have them running 80hz-200hz or 300hz (I can't remember at the moment) but I might try out 63hz with them to see how they do. I don't have my L4's or L1's in yet so I have nothing but midbass right now...lol

Phlipbak
06-17-2008, 06:09 PM
Uh.. heh.. heh.. need some help.. I was taking door panel off and broke 2 push pins, the little "push" pin part fell through the back of both of them behind the metal in my doors, how the heck do i get that out lol...

Because I can't get my arm in there... to the left behind the speaker in the door but its only like 2.5-3in. from metal to door so my arm isn't exactly going to fit there lol.. and I cant see to find them

BEAVER.989
06-17-2008, 06:15 PM
borrow someone with smaller hands... neice, nephew, brother, neighbor, etc.

Phlipbak
06-17-2008, 09:00 PM
Lol...k... any other 4 ohm mid suggestions that are better (for under 200$) and better than my EDi 6500 components (which I pretty much can't stand)..

dragnix
06-17-2008, 09:03 PM
in my experience, the mach5 can't really play that well above 3khz

Phlipbak
06-17-2008, 09:19 PM
That's what I hear.. I was going to get two L18RNX's but I don't want to deal with the 8 ohm config.. so any 4 ohm's that are equal or better to these in same price range?

dragnix
06-17-2008, 09:20 PM
but the Mach5 is pretty good bang for the buck driver. I say get it to play with it, you might get better results than me.

RAM_Designs
06-17-2008, 09:23 PM
in my experience, the mach5 can't really play that well above 3khz
How many people actually need a 6.5 mid to play that high?

mrogowski
06-17-2008, 09:25 PM
Drag is right, The MLI's break up and get quite stringent above 3k at high volume. If you have a tweeter planned that can take it below 3k, then you should be Ok.

dragnix
06-17-2008, 09:30 PM
How many people actually need a 6.5 mid to play that high?

it depends on what kind of sound you're going for, having a tweet play that high certainly does change the sound as opposed to a tweeter playing that low. It mostly depends on install.

But you're right, it's usually not needed to have a mid go that high. I prefer my tweeter to go low too :D

James Bang
06-19-2008, 07:31 AM
My brother is running a pair in his TSX with lightly deadened doors, and they are doing quite well playing from 80hz to 2.5khz. No lack in midbass, but the midrange can be better. It might be that I prefer brighter vocals. Overall, great drivers for the money. However, we will be replacing them for vifa pl18s.

BEAVER.989
06-19-2008, 03:00 PM
ID OEM mids that hessdawg is selling might be worth a look.

I've also heard of quite a few people who have been really happy with the Polk SR6500 set... my local Polk dealer sells just the mids (SR6501) for $109 each... a little over your $200, but not much.

Slammed
06-19-2008, 11:18 PM
My brother is running a pair in his TSX with lightly deadened doors, and they are doing quite well playing from 80hz to 2.5khz. No lack in midbass, but the midrange can be better. It might be that I prefer brighter vocals. Overall, great drivers for the money. However, we will be replacing them for vifa pl18s.

I replaced my Vifa PLs with the Mach5 mids


The PLs dont do well over 2khz....they are great midbass drivers (power hungry though).

Im thinking of x'ing over the Mach5 mids at 3khz, we'll see in the future

dragnix
06-19-2008, 11:22 PM
I replaced my Vifa PLs with the Mach5 mids


The PLs dont do well over 2khz....they are great midbass drivers (power hungry though).

Im thinking of x'ing over the Mach5 mids at 3khz, we'll see in the future

3khz would be a pretty good xover point, just keep the slope above 12db/oct then you should be good.