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jdc0589
06-15-2008, 06:43 PM
First post on these forums. My home forum (supraforums) doesnt have an active enough audio section. I put together what I think is a pretty nice system last winter, and I want some feedback!


I am a lot more concerned with overall quality and tonal response than having a ridiculous amount of bass, etc...Also, the way the interior of the mkiv supra is layed out there really isn't a need for a rear stage, but ill probly add something for a little bit of fill later on. So here it is:


Components:
-Head Unit: Kenwood Excelon Kdc-x991
-Front Stage: Focal 165VR
-Front Stage Amp: Focal FP 2.75
-Sub Enclosure- Wickas C.A.S. (Nazar) single 10in box
-Sub: JL Audio 10W3V3-4 (4ohm)
-Sub Amp: Alpine PDX 1.600
-Speaker Wiring: Monster Cable Hotwires 2
-RCA's: Some Monster Cable product
-Wire Termination: Monster Cable Quick Lock Connectors
Sound Dampening: Fatmat and felt

Hatch/Sub Area:
Started work back here. Did a ton of cleaning, about three layers of fatmat, 2-3layers of felt, and 1 layer of cheap temporary carpet (it gets covered up anyway)

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/twistedmethod333/Stereo/IMG_0790.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/twistedmethod333/Stereo/1-1.jpg

First layers of felt, which was a ton of smaller pieces. The final layer covers the entire hatch area with 3-4 big pieces
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/twistedmethod333/Stereo/8.jpg

What the rest of the top felt layer looks like:
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/twistedmethod333/Stereo/6.jpg

Cheap autozone carpet. It gets covered up by the spare and alayer of carpet above that though.
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/twistedmethod333/Stereo/11.jpg

Crappy pic of the box. The whole box is REALLY thick fiberglass with a layer of bondo on top. I love this thing:
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/twistedmethod333/Stereo/IMG_0868.jpg

Front Stage:

I absolutely love these speakers. They replaced the popular 165V2's. The midbass is much improved, but unfortunately the tweeters are inferior :( :


Finally perfected the bracket:
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/twistedmethod333/Stereo/9-1.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/twistedmethod333/Stereo/12.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/twistedmethod333/Stereo/IMG_0882.jpg

jdc0589
06-15-2008, 06:44 PM
Grills are on now. Ill get newer pics up soon:
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/twistedmethod333/Stereo/IMG_0815.jpg

Before anyone says ****...the fake burl wood overlay is coming off as we speak (already did the shifter piece)...it came on the car, lol. I'm repainting the dash satin black.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/twistedmethod333/Stereo/IMG_1093.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/twistedmethod333/Stereo/IMG_1083.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/twistedmethod333/Stereo/IMG_1089.jpg


Rear Seat Delete/Amp Rack:

This still needs some work and professionally molded carpet, but I ran out of time.

The 3 REALLY ugly in progress pics, lol:
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/twistedmethod333/Stereo/IMG_0871.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/twistedmethod333/Stereo/1-2.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/twistedmethod333/Stereo/IMG_0875.jpg

And the Semi-Finished Pics
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/twistedmethod333/Stereo/IMG_1062.jpg

So, what do you think?

jdc0589
06-15-2008, 06:44 PM
Reserved

jdc0589
06-15-2008, 06:44 PM
More comming

jdc0589
06-15-2008, 06:44 PM
This should be enough..

Millertime1028
06-15-2008, 06:45 PM
1. Welcome to the site ..
2. Seems to be a Nice install
3. Supra FTW

2002XLT
06-15-2008, 06:47 PM
subscribed.


and id like to see engine/exterior pics as well. :)

NMBR1SPT
06-15-2008, 06:50 PM
Deff. nice car, I hope you didn't put a folgers can on it, and if I was your dad I would be kick'n your azz for dooring my porsche

jdc0589
06-15-2008, 06:51 PM
1. Welcome to the site ..
2. Seems to be a Nice install
3. Supra FTW

Thanks a bunch.


subscribed.


and id like to see engine/exterior pics as well. :)

Ill get some up soon. Thanks!


Deff. nice car, I hope you didn't put a folgers can on it, and if I was your dad I would be kick'n your azz for dooring my porsche

Thanks for the compliment. Its a full 3in exhaust combo from the exhaust housing to the muffler. As for a ' folgers can', I think you will like it. Pics coming soon.

The door isnt touching the porsche, lol, much farther away than it looks. Im more of a freak about my car than my dad is about his, so no chance of me giving someone else a door ding for fear of chipping my own paint.

dakotap
06-15-2008, 06:53 PM
I hate you. (jk)

You have my dream car.


TT? Single?

6speed stick?

And is that a veddy nice Porsche on the side?



Oh, BTW, nice install. How do you like those focals? Thinkin of getting that or some CDT's.

jdc0589
06-15-2008, 07:02 PM
I hate you. (jk)

You have my dream car.


TT? Single?

6speed stick?

And is that a veddy nice Porsche on the side?



Oh, BTW, nice install. How do you like those focals? Thinkin of getting that or some CDT's.

OE twins. The turbos only have about 30k miles, so I wont be going single till they die (even then it will be a small single, 450hp at the wheels or so).
Its an auto, which at first I thought was going to ****; but, I love it now. I can drive a manual just fine, but its **** hard to find ANY supra around where I live, so I couldnt be too picky.

Love the 165VR's. If I had an extra $200 or so when I bought everything, I would have gone with the 165K2P's for a little bit more mid-bass and a better tweeter, but the 165VR's are really nice. I never hear much about CDT.

jdc0589
06-15-2008, 07:06 PM
Here are a few exterior pics. These are old; AKA: before I learned how to use the digital camera, so the colors are off:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/twistedmethod333/IMG_0175.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/twistedmethod333/IMG_0177.jpg

Crappy Pic of Exhaust, getting dark outside:
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/twistedmethod333/IMG_1077.jpg

dakotap
06-15-2008, 07:10 PM
Very fine car!
I love that car all stock no need for body kits and all that crap.
The only thing look wise I would do is put a nice set of black 18's with a huge polished lip.

But none the less you have a beautiful car. :)

Go2Sleep
06-15-2008, 07:13 PM
that car is **** as hell..

jeeper07
06-15-2008, 07:21 PM
****. didnt read everything after the install log part but any engine upgrades?

MEMPHISFLEX
06-15-2008, 07:24 PM
Very sweet car, one of my dream cars, thats a very nice install to, should sound, good but regardless of the system the car is sick, is that a single turbo, twin turbo, or non turbo, which ever i would take it in a heartbeat!! Nice keep up the good work!

dakotap
06-15-2008, 07:29 PM
is that a single turbo, twin turbo, or non turbo, which ever i would take it in a heartbeat!! Nice keep up the good work!

Read bottom of 1st page.:D

jdc0589
06-15-2008, 07:29 PM
****. didnt read everything after the install log part but any engine upgrades?

Not internally. No cats, 3in exhaust, and a nice filter are the only real power adders. The exhaust and CAT removal yield 2-3psi extra boost pressure, so im probly 20-25hp over stock. Aside from that it has some cheap TIEN HA coilovers and a trd front strut brace, thats about it; im into handling, not max power. OE wheels are 17x8 front 17x9.5 rear; im swapping out the fronts for two more rear wheels in a month or two so I can run 255/40/17's in front and 275/40/17's out back.

TurdFergueson2
06-15-2008, 07:32 PM
Looks nice. You ever consider getting the carpet professionally cut? I'm sure there are upholstery places that can give you something a little better that the autozone stuff. I'm looking into that for mine.


You ever meet hulkster's son?

jdc0589
06-15-2008, 07:36 PM
Looks nice. You ever consider getting the carpet professionally cut? I'm sure there are upholstery places that can give you something a little better that the autozone stuff. I'm looking into that for mine.

You ever meet hulkster's son?

Cant remember if I mentioned it in the original post, but one of the reasons I refer to the amp area as 'semi-finished' is because the carpet blows, lol. There is a place 20 mins from birmingham that can do custom molded carpet; but I want to do a little more shaping behind the carpet before I pay to get something nice made.

Haven't met him. He lurks on supraforums sometimes, but I havent heard anything from him since he had some horrible wreck (think he almost killed his passenger, or he may have).

Eugenics
06-15-2008, 07:40 PM
an unmolested supra, props to you.

sqhertz
06-15-2008, 07:42 PM
mmmm. i ****ing love supras. any year. awsome cars. theyve always been my 'realistically-speaking' dream car.
please do not abuse it.

jdc0589
06-15-2008, 07:43 PM
an unmolested supra, props to you.

Lol thanks. You might not think it, but the VAST majority of owners on supraforums prefer the stock body with a simple front lip and nice wheels. There are some really nice/classy widebody kits, but its really $$$ to do correctly, so you dont see to many.

Unfortunately the majority of the cars that get the most publicity have at least one ridiculous looking body modification.


mmmm. i ****ing love supras. any year. awsome cars. theyve always been my 'realistically-speaking' dream car.
please do not abuse it.

No worries, Its staying stock bodied. Im not adding any more power (even though another 40hp would be really easy) until the stock turbos die. Then im going to a small single in stock fuel for around 400-450hp at the wheels, no more.

duckfart
06-15-2008, 07:45 PM
nice ride

jdc0589
06-15-2008, 07:47 PM
is there any way to delete posts on this forum? I cant find a button anywhere.

by the way...this is amazing, it would take half a week to get this many responses in the audio section of supraforums, lol, not much traffic there.

2002XLT
06-15-2008, 07:55 PM
very nice car man, and looks like a decent budget SQ system.

and no, no delete for posts.

sqhertz
06-15-2008, 07:59 PM
Lol thanks. You might not think it, but the VAST majority of owners on supraforums prefer the stock body with a simple front lip and nice wheels. There are some really nice/classy widebody kits, but its really $$$ to do correctly, so you dont see to many.

Unfortunately the majority of the cars that get the most publicity have at least one ridiculous looking body modification.



No worries, Its staying stock bodied. Im not adding any more power (even though another 40hp would be really easy) until the stock turbos die. Then im going to a small single in stock fuel for around 400-450hp at the wheels, no more.


good ****. its terrible to see them done up with ugly body kits and huge turbos only to see them ragged out and wrecked. such beautiful rare cars. <3.

jdc0589
06-15-2008, 08:16 PM
very nice car man, and looks like a decent budget SQ system.

and no, no delete for posts.

Thanks. It really needs some small woofers (JL 6W0's or something) up in the kick panels to give a little bit more high frequency bass to the front stage, but aside from that Im pretty happy with it. Unfortunately SQ based systems are inherently a bunch more expensive than SPL; so even though I feel like $2200 is a ton of cash for audio stuff, its barely scratching the surface in the SQ world, lol.


good ****. its terrible to see them done up with ugly body kits and huge turbos only to see them ragged out and wrecked. such beautiful rare cars. <3.

Ditto. We actually have a 50pg thread on supraforums dedicated to the ugliest supras of all time, pretty depressing.

jdc0589
06-15-2008, 10:24 PM
Does anyone have experience with small sub's for additional front stage bass? I can only think of two off the top of my head: the JL 6W0 (discontinued), the Focal Utopia BE 13 WS (which is way to expensive).

NMBR1SPT
06-15-2008, 10:26 PM
an unmolested supra, props to you.

I will + 1 that all day long I like em just like that. If I could find one unmolested around here I would own it, the prob is everyone around here screws them up....

req
06-15-2008, 10:27 PM
sweet car. i hope you did not spray that expandable foam onto the interior of that car... i hope there was some sort of barrier so it is not permanent. it would be a shame if you just sprayed it in there :crap:


deaden them doors and seal up the holes in the door skin. otherwise, lookin good.

morgans432
06-15-2008, 10:27 PM
hogans son is in jail now i believe and great setup in a bad *** car man

jdc0589
06-15-2008, 10:29 PM
I will + 1 that all day long I like em just like that. If I could find one unmolested around here I would own it, the prob is everyone around here screws them up....

Well, there are a TON of really nice ones in the Orlando area...but most of them have at least $30,000 invested on top of the price, lol.

jdc0589
06-15-2008, 10:35 PM
sweet car. i hope you did not spray that expandable foam onto the interior of that car... i hope there was some sort of barrier so it is not permanent. it would be a shame if you just sprayed it in there :crap:


deaden them doors and seal up the holes in the door skin. otherwise, lookin good.

I tested a small area before I went all out with the foam. It sticks fairly well, but when its good and cured it will pop right off with enough force, leaving little or no residue to clean up. So, no problem there.

I forgot to mention it, but there are two layers of fatmat on the door skins (cant see it in any of the pics), all you can see in the pics are a few random pieces on other parts in the door. I need to add a third layer, but it needs something more.

I'm going to make a copy of the OE weather barriers in the doors out of a few layers of felt, stitch the layers together, coat both sides with liquid sound deadener (sp?), and then install it on top of the OE sheets. That should do the job.

NMBR1SPT
06-15-2008, 10:38 PM
Well, there are a TON of really nice ones in the Orlando area...but most of them have at least $30,000 invested on top of the price, lol.

I haven't found any, most are put back to stock, and sold as unfvcked up, which is not the same, I had a guy tell me one was stock, and when you fired it up it smoked like a chimney for burnt ring or what have you, and the paint didn't match on the bumpers and side skirts, I used to paint high end cars for a living and Ive seen some good paint on these things, but untouched I find it hard to believe. I'm in orlando, These guys are idiots, theres a kid in the neighborhood, came by braging he built his entire mitsu eclipse off of ebay, and I don't mean name brand stuff, I mean the whole knock off set up. he had the whole sweet pyle gazillion watt amp and everything he said, I just :rolleyes: oh yeah cool

Mr.B
06-15-2008, 10:43 PM
car looks cherray, get a few where i live...

twisztdauthorit
06-15-2008, 10:53 PM
nice install, i <3 supra

jdc0589
06-15-2008, 11:06 PM
I haven't found any, most are put back to stock, and sold as unfvcked up, which is not the same, I had a guy tell me one was stock, and when you fired it up it smoked like a chimney for burnt ring or what have you, and the paint didn't match on the bumpers and side skirts, I used to paint high end cars for a living and Ive seen some good paint on these things, but untouched I find it hard to believe. I'm in orlando, These guys are idiots, theres a kid in the neighborhood, came by braging he built his entire mitsu eclipse off of ebay, and I don't mean name brand stuff, I mean the whole knock off set up. he had the whole sweet pyle gazillion watt amp and everything he said, I just :rolleyes: oh yeah cool


Wow...that makes me hurt inside. People dont understand, but paint and body work IS NOT CHEAP to get done well. Usually I dont use this mentality towards things, but when someone tells me they got a respray for $2,000 the first thing that pops into my mind is: "I wonder where the shop skimped..."

have you been by Titan Motorsports in winter park? One of the main shops in the country for MKIV's, they have some really nice cars that come through there.


car looks cherray, get a few where i live...

nice install, i <3 supra

Thanks!

fatboyracing
06-15-2008, 11:07 PM
Thats a bad ride.

Crimson Boom
06-15-2008, 11:23 PM
How the hell did you find a turbo supra in Birmingham? My friend has been looking for one for AGES to no avail. Where do you live in this(not so great) city?

jdc0589
06-15-2008, 11:32 PM
How the hell did you find a turbo supra in Birmingham? My friend has been looking for one for AGES to no avail. Where do you live in this(not so great) city?

I looked around here for a long time without luck, they were all either n/a, had gay body kits, or WAY too expensive (there was a 3kmile red TT 6 spd that sold for about $60,000). Then (for reasons I discovered later) I found this one way out of state and the buyer was willing to pay for shipping. To this day the entire supraforums community and myself can not figure out how the hell the original owner managed to bend a rod on the stock turbos....the OE internals are good for 800hp!!!!!

There are some nice ones though. 3-5 of us get together every few months for lunch and a drive. As of last summer, we have a 600-700hp 2jz powered S2000 in town that comes sometimes.

Crimson Boom
06-15-2008, 11:37 PM
OO nice, that thing must be amazing to see in person, thats what I love about the southern states, there are TONS of people(comparitively) with really powerful cars in pretty much every major city, and an number of hick-towns.

jdc0589
06-15-2008, 11:41 PM
Added final pics of the doors and dash to post #2



OO nice, that thing must be amazing to see in person, thats what I love about the southern states, there are TONS of people(comparitively) with really powerful cars in pretty much every major city, and an number of hick-towns.

Birmingham really doesnt have too many. I dont think I have EVER seen a really powerful modified domestic around, Z06 corvettes and Cobras are usually the top of the food chain.

But, that has started to change in the past few years, thanks mainly to Barber.

Crimson Boom
06-15-2008, 11:44 PM
Well i'm thinking about dragsters and the like, theres a street racing board out there and theres some pretty respectble cars on there cept for the fact they have competitive driving events.

jdc0589
06-15-2008, 11:50 PM
Well i'm thinking about dragsters and the like, theres a street racing board out there and theres some pretty respectble cars on there cept for the fact they have competitive driving events.

Ah, im not really in to that scene. I know there used to be a bunch around here but they published an article in the newspaper about it a few years and the cops started cracking down.

Crimson Boom
06-16-2008, 12:01 AM
Yeah, you also noticed how 20/50 ***** now? This time last year you could 80 no prob. through downtown, now they actually partrol it. ugh

I know some spots in Edgewater to race though

Anniku989
06-16-2008, 12:15 AM
Go fix the first links so I have something to whack off to

mil81
06-16-2008, 12:37 AM
Nice car man. I normally hate cars, with the exception of almost any Supra, and the 300zx. If I could see the pictures in the first posts I would comment on the stereo too, but I don't know what's going on.

TurdFergueson2
06-16-2008, 02:47 AM
Cant remember if I mentioned it in the original post, but one of the reasons I refer to the amp area as 'semi-finished' is because the carpet blows, lol. There is a place 20 mins from birmingham that can do custom molded carpet; but I want to do a little more shaping behind the carpet before I pay to get something nice made.

Haven't met him. He lurks on supraforums sometimes, but I havent heard anything from him since he had some horrible wreck (think he almost killed his passenger, or he may have).

yeah, he's locked up I think still. My Gramma lives in Birmingham. I never visited her. Closest I ever been was Montgomery.
I asked about little Hulk because I believe they live in FLA I believe and he was big into his Supra.

Sweet car though. Just take your time and it will turn out. I figured you would have muscled it out before doing the audio part.

jdc0589
06-16-2008, 09:31 AM
****Dont know why some of them weren't working for everyone else, but I went back and recopied all the image links. Let me know if they work now.

mil81
06-16-2008, 11:06 AM
That's better. Thanks for re-posting the pictures.

That system is looking good for sure. Those Focals are the best part of the system. Bet they sound amazing.

jdc0589
06-16-2008, 12:49 PM
That's better. Thanks for re-posting the pictures.

That system is looking good for sure. Those Focals are the best part of the system. Bet they sound amazing.

I love them. Not counting the sub enclosure, I spent more than 2x as much on the front stage than the sub stage; lol, that shows where my priorities lie. Unfortunately the sub enclosure was expensive as ****, but there are no other options for a good thick 100% fiberglass enclosure that allows the targa top to still fit in the back of the car, keep the spare tire, and allow the rear seat to still fit if I ever want to put it back.

bigbangtheory
06-16-2008, 08:53 PM
Nice ride mang! Always been a fan, but Auto FTL! Got to be stick for me anyway, but still nice!

System looks straight as well, but hows come you don't like the tweets? Might need to adjust them more or angle them a different way. I would just try some different things.

Overall, looks and betcha sounds killer! Keep it safe!

jdc0589
06-16-2008, 10:00 PM
Nice ride mang! Always been a fan, but Auto FTL! Got to be stick for me anyway, but still nice!

System looks straight as well, but hows come you don't like the tweets? Might need to adjust them more or angle them a different way. I would just try some different things.

Overall, looks and betcha sounds killer! Keep it safe!

I wish it was manual, mainly because the 6-spd getrag tranny is near indestructible, but as far as 90's auto transmissions go, its very nice. I would be in for a 6-spd swap, but seeing as that is 8-12k in parts, it will be a while.

Focal did a major 'rework' with their speaker lineup in the past year. Previous to that, they only have a few different tweeters, almost all of which were great. Now they have a bunch more. Technically, my speakers, the 165VR's, are only middle of the road quality as far as focal goes, so they got some of the inferior newer tweeters (though they arnt the worst). Most of the time they sound good, but they can get a little harsh. The woofers are exceptional, and a few guys in the industry have had wonderful results swapping in the TN-52 tweeters from some of the nicer speakers in K2 line.

Not to many options as far as mounting and angling goes. There isnt another spot anywhere on the door panel I can put them (where they are now is best anyway), the OE positions are terrible, and they would be way to harsh if I pointed them towards me more. If I had nicer ones I might modify the pillars to accept a tweeter pod, but that would be RIGHT in my face.

jdc0589
06-16-2008, 10:11 PM
On a side note, I have decided I would give my left nut for one or two of these and and another FP 2.75 or a 2.150. Too bad thats about $1500 from an UNAUTHORIZED dealer....wow. I may have to settle for som old JL 6w0's, lol.

http://utopia-be.com/Products/13_WS/13WS_frame.jpg Focal Utopia BE 13 WS
Type: 5" Subwoofer

Cone: Multilayer composite sandwich

Nominal Power Handling: 75W

Maximum Power Handling: 150W

Sensitivity: (2.83V/ 1m) 88dB

Frequency Response: (+/ -3dB)
36Hz - 200Hz

Application:
.25 to 0.5 CF3 Sealed Enclosure

Impedance: 4 Ohm

MTXman
06-17-2008, 08:26 PM
Nice choice in woofer :)

jdc0589
06-17-2008, 11:49 PM
Nice choice in woofer :)

The JL I have in the car or the focal pictured above im drooling over the idea of?

I actually may pick up a Focal Utopia 5ws. They were really popular in the pro-sq crowd a while back (6-8 of them used as a main sub stage). Its a 5in 75w rms sub (150w max), which im hoping might add just enough mid/high bass to the front stage. It would be centrally mounted (between the drivers and passengers seat at 'mid torso level' pointing towards the dash).

TPABlazer
06-18-2008, 07:26 AM
I forgot to mention it, but there are two layers of fatmat on the door skins (cant see it in any of the pics), all you can see in the pics are a few random pieces on other parts in the door. I need to add a third layer, but it needs something more.


What do you have to separate the front and rear of the speaker? Fromt he pics, it looks like you put the deadener in, put the weather gasket in, and then put the speaker bracket on. If you isolated the front and rear of the speaker in the door, you'd probably get a much better response.

jdc0589
06-18-2008, 02:21 PM
What do you have to separate the front and rear of the speaker? Fromt he pics, it looks like you put the deadener in, put the weather gasket in, and then put the speaker bracket on. If you isolated the front and rear of the speaker in the door, you'd probably get a much better response.

I know, but there is VERY little room to work with. The door panel fits the door-frame like a glove in most places, and there isnt enough backspacing to make an enclosure. Ill have to think on it...there might be room for a fiberglass 'shield'.

Orion Man
06-18-2008, 04:28 PM
Hey bro, welcome to the forums. I remember your writeup on SF.com. Beautiful job on the install.

jdc0589
06-18-2008, 04:40 PM
Hey bro, welcome to the forums. I remember your writeup on SF.com. Beautiful job on the install.


Thanks man. I have a while to go to get it 'beautiful', but im workin on it, lol. Next project is to extend the center console and add more shape the the rear seat area.

Here is one option I might do temporarily.
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/twistedmethod333/Stereo/IMG_1062-1.jpg

This is VERY rough, and the shape is wrong, but you get the idea. Would go between he back of the OE center console and the back of the sub enclosure:
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d88/twistedmethod333/Stereo/console.jpg

TPABlazer
06-18-2008, 07:31 PM
I know, but there is VERY little room to work with. The door panel fits the door-frame like a glove in most places, and there isnt enough backspacing to make an enclosure. Ill have to think on it...there might be room for a fiberglass 'shield'.

You could always get creative, and use some tin or aluminum flashing, and deaden it. Rivet it into place on the doors, not over the skin, just enough to fill the holes. It looks like your mid is just floating there, regardless how solid that mount is, its not going to sound as good as a properly sealed door

jdc0589
06-18-2008, 10:26 PM
You could always get creative, and use some tin or aluminum flashing, and deaden it. Rivet it into place on the doors, not over the skin, just enough to fill the holes. It looks like your mid is just floating there, regardless how solid that mount is, its not going to sound as good as a properly sealed door

I have a little room to bring the speaker out, so Im thinking about a fiberglass shield and just drill a few small bolts holes to hold it in place. There is one hole that I will just have to put fatmat over though, no way to make a piece to cover it.

Techchild
06-18-2008, 10:31 PM
Some of the cuts are scary ugly along with the carpeting that I saw on the first post. Nice car thoe wish some one would buy me one. :)

jdc0589
06-18-2008, 10:49 PM
Some of the cuts are scary ugly along with the carpeting that I saw on the first post. Nice car thoe wish some one would buy me one. :)

Are you referring only to the cuts in the carpet and the carpet itself? If so, I would have been a little more harsh about the quality, lol. All the carpet was temporary until I could figure out what I really wanted to do with the amp area.

I will start fiberglassing the center console extension in a day or so, and then move on to pieces to shape the areas where the amps are now. After all that's done the hatch extension, headliner, and plastic side panels are getting wrapped in black suede or alcantara. Then im going to make a nice piece of black carpet to replace the stock piece I hacked up to go in the area behind the subwoofer.

Somewhere in there I will make the pieces to seal the doors off better. After that I think ill be pretty much done aside from refinishing the panels over the gauge custer, shifter, a/c units, etc...

jdc0589
06-18-2008, 10:53 PM
Oh yea, the terrible cut line on the sub enclosure carpet was how it arrived at my house, I haven't touched it yet. The nasty looking cuts on the door panel before I put the grills on was how I found it upon removing the OE grills (which had been removed before).

****Update****:

The cardboard skeleton of the center console extension is almost done. With any luck I will fleece and put down the first layer of glass today! Then it will take another day or two shape it with bondo, do the final layers of fiberglass, replace the cardboard ribs with fiberglass ones (molded on the bottom so they fit in the car perfect), sand, and figure out exactly how to mount it. The Utopia 5WS should be here mid/early next week; so then Ill start the pod for it that will be on the front of the console extension facing towards the dash. The pod will look like a mini version of the center of the main sb enclosure, just facing foreward.