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Kool
05-20-2008, 09:29 AM
These things are so ******. Does anyone on here own one?

jaredspl
05-20-2008, 09:31 AM
yamaha built those motors for ford, pretty quick cars.

Kool
05-20-2008, 09:35 AM
yamaha built those motors for ford, pretty quick cars.

I know they were proven to be faster then the ford mustang 5.0's.

sixfootman2005
05-20-2008, 09:44 AM
never riden in a v8 one but i've got a 93 and love it mines an auto so it has a 3.2

Kool
05-20-2008, 09:51 AM
never riden in a v8 one but i've got a 93 and love it mines an auto so it has a 3.2

I actually looked at one of those recently and almost bought it.

cha0
05-20-2008, 09:57 AM
theres a kid that plays at the paintball field i play at. he has a green one. i was like "nice SHO" and hes like "huh" im like "i like your car" and he was just like "why its a piece of **** taurus...?" so i told him i would buy it off him. he said he had to talk to his dad. this was 2 weeks ago. funny you post this up. his dad has to know what it is. but if he dosnt then maybe i can get this at a good price...

sixfootman2005
05-20-2008, 10:02 AM
theres a kid that plays at the paintball field i play at. he has a green one. i was like "nice SHO" and hes like "huh" im like "i like your car" and he was just like "why its a piece of **** taurus...?" so i told him i would buy it off him. he said he had to talk to his dad. this was 2 weeks ago. funny you post this up. his dad has to know what it is. but if he dosnt then maybe i can get this at a good price...

be nice if you could get it for a regular taurus price:laugh::greedy:

dman4486
05-20-2008, 10:05 AM
I know they were proven to be faster then the ford mustang 5.0's.

5.0 is a very broad range of vehicles.....they might be faster than some, but not all factory 5.0's

93 saturn sl2
05-20-2008, 06:44 PM
5.0 is a very broad range of vehicles.....they might be faster than some, but not all factory 5.0's

You got the carb'd or EFI ones.

dman4486
05-20-2008, 06:46 PM
You got the carb'd or EFI ones.

I do not have a mustang, I have a maverick and it has a carburetor

jco1385
05-20-2008, 06:48 PM
I do not have a mustang, I have a maverick and it has a carburetor

has a 5.0? factory?

dman4486
05-20-2008, 06:49 PM
has a 5.0? factory?

mine is no longer factory, but it was:D

TurdFergueson2
05-20-2008, 06:50 PM
One of my all time favorite cars that I could actually get. My brother had one that he let go to ****.
I always liked the early 90s model of it.

jco1385
05-20-2008, 06:50 PM
mine is no longer factory, but it was:D

5.0 in a maverick from Ford? i did not know that

dman4486
05-20-2008, 06:51 PM
5.0 in a maverick from Ford? i did not know that

Let me find some material for you....

mine was a non "grabber" but came with the 5.0

dman4486
05-20-2008, 06:52 PM
here it is jco

http://www.fordmaverick.com/

go to chronology and check out the '73 options

jco1385
05-20-2008, 06:54 PM
well i'll be damned

dman4486
05-20-2008, 06:55 PM
well i'll be damned

I'm sure you saw my pics (in sig), but I used the original block and heads and built everything else

jco1385
05-20-2008, 06:57 PM
noice

Towncar
05-20-2008, 07:04 PM
Not sure if any of you knew, but their is a slight chance ford may bring it back... Would be nice to see something of that nature, but dont get your hopes up..

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb199/mycrownvic01/sho.jpg

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb199/mycrownvic01/sho2.jpg

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb199/mycrownvic01/insidesho.jpg


link..


http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/07/ford-holdss-taurus-sho-focus-group-in-chicago-what-does-it-mea/

Kool
05-20-2008, 09:21 PM
Not sure if any of you knew, but their is a slight chance ford may bring it back... Would be nice to see something of that nature, but dont get your hopes up..

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb199/mycrownvic01/sho.jpg

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb199/mycrownvic01/sho2.jpg

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb199/mycrownvic01/insidesho.jpg


link..


http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/07/ford-holdss-taurus-sho-focus-group-in-chicago-what-does-it-mea/

If they put a v8 into that then the mustang wont be anything.

Kool
05-20-2008, 09:22 PM
5.0 is a very broad range of vehicles.....they might be faster than some, but not all factory 5.0's

All except the turbocharged 5.0's.

dbhittin
05-21-2008, 12:22 AM
sho's were a pos

15nissen
05-21-2008, 01:09 PM
Care to back up this staement.

They were built by yamaha and as a result, parts / after market presence is tiny and Very expensive . They were very hard to work on and at the end of the day, still Fwd drive.

I base this on the fact we build motors and work hand in hand with a few large engine shops. :)

bigbirney420
05-21-2008, 01:13 PM
I had a 91, 5 speed. Fun car, but expensive to fix and a lot broke. The v8 ones were a little nicer, but quite a bit slower

dman4486
05-21-2008, 01:19 PM
They were built by yamaha and as a result, parts / after market presence is tiny and Very expensive . They were very hard to work on and at the end of the day, still Fwd drive.

I base this on the fact we build motors and work hand in hand with a few large engine shops. :)

yet you don't know that the acronym FWD is FRONT WHEEL DRIVE:laugh:

so the sho's are front wheel drive drive

RedlineAccord
05-21-2008, 01:25 PM
yet you don't know that the acronym FWD is FRONT WHEEL DRIVE:laugh:

so the sho's are front wheel drive drive

You know what he meant, and he makes a valid point. Power + FWD = spin spin spin spin spin... oh hey, traction 10 seconds later when the RWD/AWD car is already 40 car lengths ahead! lol

dman4486
05-21-2008, 01:26 PM
You know what he meant, and he makes a valid point. Power + FWD = spin spin spin spin spin... oh hey, traction 10 seconds later when the RWD/AWD car is already 40 car lengths ahead! lol

AWD drive rock!!!

jco1385
05-21-2008, 01:26 PM
You know what he meant, and he makes a valid point. Power + FWD = spin spin spin spin spin... oh hey, traction 10 seconds later when the RWD/AWD car is already 40 car lengths ahead! lol

hood spoilers ftmfw

ThatChevyGuy
05-21-2008, 01:31 PM
If they put a v8 into that then the mustang wont be anything.

Hmm looks like a ford falcon (aus)

ThatChevyGuy
05-21-2008, 01:34 PM
http://www.webwombat.com.au/motoring/images/ford-falcon-xr-update-2007-2-big.jpg
i think those come with 8's.

dman4486
05-21-2008, 01:35 PM
http://www.webwombat.com.au/motoring/images/ford-falcon-xr-update-2007-2-big.jpg
i think those come with 8's.

kinda looks like the contour svt

ThatChevyGuy
05-21-2008, 01:36 PM
i believe it to be the same platform
Ya know like the holden commodore= our gto

dman4486
05-21-2008, 01:37 PM
i believe it to be the same platform
Ya know like the holden commodore= our gto

I thought the monero was the gto:confused:

or are they all the same?

http://www.jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2006/07/holden_monero_last.jpg

bigbirney420
05-21-2008, 06:53 PM
Wheres the logic in what you just said?

Cylinders have nothing to do with power. The V8 was only like 235 horses and only came in automatic. The Yamaha V6's had around 240 from th factory and weighed less, not to mention most were manual until 1993. They broke down alot. I replaced clutch twice, power steering pump and various other things. Plus every part was twice as much as regular Taurus parts and harder to come by. Car just wasnt built to handle the power.

Orion Man
05-21-2008, 06:57 PM
Not to be a ****, buts its a Taurus! Am I missing something here?

FineLinePimpin
05-23-2008, 05:45 PM
The V8 Taurus SHO is also prone to cracking cams...welding the cams is a popular mod on them. They are not nearly as fast as the v6 sho's and they were ONLY automatic tranny's. They were decent cars though as far as handling and ride/comfort go for a Tore-***. There are a handfull of 300-400+ V6 sho's out there too.

Zeptoplix
05-23-2008, 05:54 PM
The cams do not infact crack. The sprocket is not welded onto the cam, its "swedged" on, and eventual spins free. Its an interference engine, so when this happens, metal meets metal and its not a pretty outcome.

89 was the lightest, fastest year. all mtx models from 89-95 were rated closer to 220 HP and 200 ft/lbs of torque, 93-95atx were rated at 220HP and 220 ft/lb of torque or so. Not bad cars, respond well to suspension mods, however, expensive to fix.

blackhawk
05-23-2008, 05:56 PM
i believe it to be the same platform
Ya know like the holden commodore= our gto
Isn't the Commodore the G8 over here?

Ferendon
05-27-2008, 11:13 PM
yamaha built those motors for ford, pretty quick cars.
The 89-95 had a Yamaha designed, developed, and built V6. The V8 was done by Ford. It's a Duratec 2.5 V6, with 2 cylinders added. Don't believe me, then do some research and do the math.


theres a kid that plays at the paintball field i play at. he has a green one. i was like "nice SHO" and hes like "huh" im like "i like your car" and he was just like "why its a piece of **** taurus...?" so i told him i would buy it off him. he said he had to talk to his dad. this was 2 weeks ago. funny you post this up. his dad has to know what it is. but if he dosnt then maybe i can get this at a good price...
Gen I and II SHOs for for $1000 and less all the time. Check out fordbastards.org. There's plenty of really nice ones under $2k.


be nice if you could get it for a regular taurus price:laugh::greedy:
There's no difference in price. The SHO is much nicer, but also much more costly to own. A regular Taurus will usually carry a higher resale value, to be quite honest.

Not sure if any of you knew, but their is a slight chance ford may bring it back... Would be nice to see something of that nature, but dont get your hopes up..

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb199/mycrownvic01/sho.jpg

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb199/mycrownvic01/sho2.jpg

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb199/mycrownvic01/insidesho.jpg


link..


http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/07/ford-holdss-taurus-sho-focus-group-in-chicago-what-does-it-mea/
The 'new SHO' has been a concept for years. Years ago, the concept started as a car called simply the '427'. Named for the engine, 427 Cobra Jet, RWD, 500+hp w/o boost. Then gas got pricey. They ended up turning the concept into a FWD sedan, the Five Hundred. The SHO was supposed to be a slightly modified Five Hundred chassis, with a 3.5l Duratec V6, compared to the regular 3.0 V6 that was in the Five Hundred. Instead they made the 3.5 standard, and renamed it the 'Taurus' for purposes of familiarity and recognition. In all honesty, the Five Hundred was a redesigned, renamed Taurus, to begin with. Most people think the Fusion replaced the Taurus, and it did in the sense that it fills the midsize gap in the line-up left by removing the Taurus. But, the Five Hundred shares the some blood with the Taurus, the Fusion is a whole new car. The SHO concept is now supposed to be a 4.4l V8 from the Volvo XC90, which a complete Yamaha engine, or a TT 3.5 Duratec. Either way, with Ford financial status, and the economy the way it is, a FWD sports sedan is the last thing Ford will be making. It started as a 2002 concept and is now a 2009 concept, last I checked.

And as for the 3.4 V8, it's a great engine, to the right owner. With good maintenance, and the camshafts welded, it's a good solid engine. The transmission is the real weak spots. It's a sluggish-by-design 4-speed, and really doesn't allow the motor to shine when it's at it's peak. A 30 punch typical puts you right at the bottom of second gear, with the computer preventing a downshift to 2nd. So, from ~30mph, if you hit the gas, say to get on the freeway, you don't get the response you should, because you're starting at about 1500 rpm, trying to accelerate. It's still faster than many comparable cars, but not near as good as it could have been. The Gen Is and IIs, despite the 15 less hp, are substantially faster. Of course, Gen I and II SHOs are much faster than the numbers tell. That 220hp is distributed VERY well, and with a good driver, a well maintained 5-speed Gen I/II is capable of pulling a 350Z, G35, or S2K from a 60 punch. I own 2 of them, one a former DD, now a parts car because of some drunken fvcktard, the other in my driveway, far from stock.

Ferendon
05-27-2008, 11:21 PM
The V8 Taurus SHO is also prone to cracking cams...welding the cams is a popular mod on them. They are not nearly as fast as the v6 sho's and they were ONLY automatic tranny's. They were decent cars though as far as handling and ride/comfort go for a Tore-***. There are a handfull of 300-400+ V6 sho's out there too.
There's more than a handful. But there are a 'handful' of 500+hp SHOs, with a few breaking the 660whp barrier. I'm in the process of gathering parts to put a built 3.3 stroker SHO engine into something a lot smaller, lighter, and RWD, with a T-5, and a yet undetermined differential.


The cams do not infact crack. The sprocket is not welded onto the cam, its "swedged" on, and eventual spins free. Its an interference engine, so when this happens, metal meets metal and its not a pretty outcome.

89 was the lightest, fastest year. all mtx models from 89-95 were rated closer to 220 HP and 200 ft/lbs of torque, 93-95atx were rated at 220HP and 220 ft/lb of torque or so. Not bad cars, respond well to suspension mods, however, expensive to fix.
This is a rare breed of information about SHOs. The correct kind... or almost correct. The 89 is the lightest, fastest year, but also lacks many amenities, as well as airbags and ABS, hence the lighter weight. The MTX SHOs were a 3.0 with 220/200 hp/tq, and the ATX was a 3.2 with 220/215 hp/tq.

As far as suspension mods go, they do respond well, at least for strut tension rod suspension. There's development underway to fit a Gen III subframe to the Gen I/II with in an LCA style setup, and a much lighter, stronger subframe. THEN, and only then, will we see what the car is capable of. Personally, I couldn't give a rat's *** about the car itself. It's a piece of ****. The motor on the other hand, is every bit as good, and believed by those in the know, to be better than the 2JZ, SR-series, RB-series, and just about everything else to come out of Japan. But, because of their poor choice of platform, nothing was ever done in the earlier years of the SHO, leaving it to fall to the back of the pack. It's not very often that someone makes a FWD sedan that outruns, out handles, and out brakes the BMW 5-series of the same era. And even these days, with a good stiff suspension, good tires, and a 13.6" brake upgrade, can out-brake brand new Porches.

Towncar
05-30-2008, 03:47 AM
Interesting..

quote-

For the last few weeks, the internet has been abuzz with rumors about the possible return of a performance-oriented Ford Taurus for the 2010 model year, when the large sedan will receive a major redesign. So, is a hotter version of the 2010 Taurus really coming?

SHO enough.

First things first. You may not actually see the return of the "SHO" nameplate. Sources indicate to us that Ford may very well take a cue from across the pond and adorn the sedan with an "ST" badge.

The regular 2010 Taurus that Alan Mulally said they "should have made originally," is confirmed to debut at NAIAS 2009 and on sale a few months later. We feel pretty confident that the ST model will also debut in Detroit. However with NAIAS more than half a year away, things could certainly change. We wouldn't be shocked to see the ST model held over to debut at the 2009 Chicago Auto Show.

When the ST does debut, it's going to be packing Ford's new 3.5-liter, twin turbo, V6 motor. Previously known as the "Twin Force" motor, Ford has now re-branded it with the much more sedate "EcoBoost" name. Even with its less aggressive name, this forced-induction V6 will be tuned to produce 350 horsepower. This will put the Taurus in a heated battle with Chrysler's 340hp 300C, and will far exceed Chevy's 303hp Impala SS, if falling a little short of the Pontiac G8 GT's 361hp. We've been told to expect a zero to 60 time in the low-to-mid 6-second range.

Suspension-wise, the ST will feature a sport tuned version of Ford's new SR1 (Shock Ratio 1) suspension. The SR1 setup is a new independent rear suspension that will debut on Lincoln's MKS. Inside sources tell us not to expect huge hood scoops and massive spoilers. Rather, the ST will continue its role as a "sleeper," rolling on 20s and sporting a few moderate chrome accents in the front and rear fascia.

At the factory, Ford will be hoping for a return to the cult following that the SHO enjoyed in the '90s. Roughly 12-15% of the 2010 Tauruses that come down the production line will wear ST badges.

The last major nugget we hear about the ST concerns the drive wheels. If you're like us, 350hp to the front wheels sounds like a supremely bad idea. We're talking Crystal Pepsi bad. Instead of having you spin your tires through first and second gear, the ST looks ready to come with an AWD setup only. If not, we anticipate a fresh hole in the ozone layer solely from Taurus ST tire smoke.

Look for the Taurus ST to be available by next summer.

Words by Chris Doane.


http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb199/mycrownvic01/shoz.jpg


http://www.leftlanenews.com/ford-taurus-st.html#more-7531

Towncar
05-30-2008, 03:48 AM
A buddy of mine just got a 89 sho. Once he puts on this new clutch, we are going to race. Should be interesting.. :)

ThatChevyGuy
05-30-2008, 02:47 PM
what r you driving? Ill race the sho in my intrigue

groundpound4200
05-30-2008, 02:50 PM
I rode in a POS early 90s one a few years back and that fvcker still had balls to spare.... it looked like hell but it would spin tires through 1st and 2nd plus that Yamaha sounded so sweet

sixfootman2005
05-30-2008, 02:54 PM
There's no difference in price. The SHO is much nicer, but also much more costly to own. A regular Taurus will usually carry a higher resale value, to be quite honest.



around here there's a big difference in price...people don't want to pay more than $700 for a regular taurus (92-95 anyway)

SHOemup233
05-30-2008, 03:25 PM
Gas ***** in SHO's. Premium blows. My Dad's Taurus shows how far engines have really come.

My car takes premium, gets 15 city and 23-24 hwy, and has 220 (well 190ish now) horses.
Dads - Unleaded 89, 22 city and 29 hwy, and has 260 horses.

Engines have really come along.

And don't try to fix a box any bigger than the one in my sig in a SHO. ha.

Towncar
05-30-2008, 06:47 PM
what r you driving? Ill race the sho in my intrigue

Crownvic