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Gui
05-19-2008, 08:13 AM
I'll make it short and sweet. I have a 1998 Camaro with the stock monsoon system on it. I've been thinking about a million different ways to build a system for it, but I want to keep it clean and stealth. An idea that came about was running a similar system that i already have, but amplified with a new HU. The idea for the setup is a follows:

Component or Coaxial 6.5 on the doors

Mid-Bass speakers in the center area, rear seats.

4 inch component speakers in the rear.

2 amplifiers, a 4 channel amp running the door speakers and rear 4 inchers; then a 2 channel amp running the midbass drivers.

Heres my question: Do midbass speakers really hit those lower frequencies and have a similar sound to a powered 6x9? Are they similar to the loudspeakers I use as a musician and give more low-mid clarity (150-1000hz)? Or, do they sound like an average component system? Because, components really lack on the low end, from what I've seen.

So is this a good idea or am I wasting my time?

Gui
05-19-2008, 07:14 PM
I see.

PaulD
05-19-2008, 08:25 PM
sarcasm will get you everywhere .... :D

I use a JBL 2118 8" for midbass, the same one you see in boxes with HLCD's. It is crossed over at 56 Hz and really pounds tht low.

Gui
05-19-2008, 10:17 PM
Oh but you're wrong, sir. Sarcasm is the lamb of god! :wow:


About your midbass speakers, I checked them out and I see that they are very similar in design of the 6.5 speakers.

So do you think the system I pointed out will pretty much cover all ends?

PaulD
05-20-2008, 08:50 PM
where exactly are you mounting the midbass speakers ? you will need a pair evenly spaced, just like mids

Intercooler
05-20-2008, 09:11 PM
I have an O2 Trans Am with the Monsoon I just hooked up last week. About as stealth as you can get! I even used the stock HU and it sounds awesome. On a side note I just put these M-6 CDT mids in my Civic (also have them in the doors) and see the video.

http://s236.photobucket.com/player.swf?file=http://vid236.photobucket.com/albums/ff100/Intercooler2/MVI_0091.flv&fs=1&os=1&ap=1

Intercooler
05-20-2008, 09:18 PM
Here is the writeup I did:

Just installed the CDT comp's in the doors and thought I would share since I am not changing a thing. Kind of an audio head so anything compared to my Honda Civic with everything it has in it I thought would be a disappointment. Glad to report that is not so and I am going to be real happy staying with the stock Monsoon/stock HU in my car. I started out about a week ago replacing blown sails with Kee Bazooka 6.5's:

Bazooka 6.5" subwoofer
6.5" replacement subwoofer
100watts RMS/200watts Peak Power
available in single or dual 4ohm 1.5" voice coils
100dB Sensitivity
Frequency Response: 39-1500Hz
20oz magnet
Price: $119.00 per pair

Fixed a big problem and they had good bass and output for what they are meant to do.

My car has a set of Infinity plates in the hatch area. I can't remember the stamping they have on them and don't even know if they are stock. It is a 4" with a like small tweet. They sounded kind of harsh until I installed the door comp's today. I don't know if it was the EQ tuning or if adding the doors corrected some power or other problems but happy to report they are also staying!

I had bad window motors so I figured while I was there I would do the door speakers with comp's. I kind of figured someone had taken out the tweets and when I pulled the panels it was confirmed that nothing in there. So I ordered a set of open box TW-25 1" Silk CDT tweets just like I have in my Civic (I have two sets running four-way) from Woofersetc for $50.00:

(non-sponsor link removed)

Their tweeters are hard to equal! Very natural sound that isn't harsh or hard on the ear to listen to up. I just stayed with the factory setup/ x-over and they sound just awesome. **** near as good as my Honda which uses a CDT x-over so real happy about that. I mean they play **** good! No need to change a thing.

To replace the stock door speakers I got the Kee CL-62 6.75" mid-bass drivers since they had the best dB rating:

CL-62 6.75" midbass driver
6.75" stamped red frame
Carbon treated cone structure
14.6oz. magnet
Rubber butyl surround
Power Handling: 80watts RMS/ 110watts Peak Power
Impedance: 4ohms
Frequency Response: 50 ~ 5000 hZ
http://www.cdtaudio.com/pdf/CL-6.pdf
Price: $129.99

I also got a set of MDF speaker plates from Kee to put them in which made for a great install and easy fit. I use silicone for the MDF plate to the door and also silicone on the speaker to MDF. I went around the speaker plate where it attaches to the door with a layer of Second Skin sound deadener. This was just about a 1" strip just to kill a little of the vibration, etc... and about all you can fit in that area. These things play real nice off the stock Monsoon setup. The plastic on my doors were moving pretty good! If the Monsoon had more power I may have tried the HD-62's but I am real impressed with these (like all CDT stuff).

After everything was going and I tuned the EQ I had neighbors stopping by to see my subs. I don't have any! At least not in the car yet but they were amazed out how much bass it seemed to put out without. Just this setup to this point will satisfy just about any audio/bass head without adding a sub. Trust me! My GF doesn't like the Civic... can't play it up, etc... This setup to this point she will be borderline with not liking it

So Thursday I am taking it by my audio shop to add the SubThump driver's side box for $112.00:

http://www.subthump.com/acamarostealth.htm

with a 10" Resonant Engineering SE D4 in it I got off E-Bay for $150.00:

http://cgi.ebay.com/RE-AUDIO-SE10-10...2em118Q2el1247

Hifonics 1606D to power it off a guy on CarAudio.Com brand new for $175.00:

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-HIFONICS-BXi...QQcmdZViewItem

and an "S" amp rack to mount it on from SubThump for $70.00:

http://www.subthump.com/acamarorack2.htm

and a PIE X3/GM9 so I can hook up the XM (Monsoon tuner will remain crappy so got to do what you got to do) off E-Bay for $60.00:

http://cgi.ebay.com/PIE-X3-X3-GM9-TR...2em118Q2el1247

At that point I think it will be **** close to my Civic for a ton less (minus subs).

Retain t-top holder, jack and all. Can't wait to get the sub in and running because that will mesh the whole system together... I just know it! Don't take my word for it though LOL!