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bass-aholic
05-12-2008, 05:31 PM
And so the build log begins:) Just got done cutting all the mdf. Ill probably put it together tomarrow. 2 18" fi q's, 1 orion 2500d, 3-4 powermasters depending on whats needed and a 250 amp alt. Subs coming Wednesday the 14th and alt is ordered but hasn't shipped out yet:(. Not many pics yet but heres the design + WOOD!!
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/7703/publicdesignvx5.png (http://imageshack.us)

Took 2 sheets of mdf.
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/6196/pic0144lu5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Scoobydoo
05-12-2008, 05:32 PM
you never explained why you hate mdf, what has it done to you?

528hz
05-12-2008, 05:33 PM
:toast:

I wood have used Birch. I hate MDF too, plus with Birch, you have less weight and no pre-drilling.

bass-aholic
05-12-2008, 05:38 PM
i have mdf dust in places i really dont want it....which is why im going to shower, + i cant stop coughing :( i inhaled too much!!!

steveyhustle
05-12-2008, 06:19 PM
ha nice cant wait to see this come along:)

InhumanAcura
05-12-2008, 06:23 PM
no pre-drilling.

you should always pre-drill..mdf, or not..

kovemaster559
05-12-2008, 06:24 PM
i have mdf dust in places i really dont want it....which is why im going to shower, + i cant stop coughing :( i inhaled too much!!!

***** hahahha jk yeah mdf dust ***** balls u should were a mask dude i hear some **** thats bad for u if u eat or inhale to much

jco1385
05-12-2008, 06:24 PM
you should always pre-drill..mdf, or not..

meh, air stapler FTW

82 cutlass
05-12-2008, 06:25 PM
i have mdf dust in places i really dont want it....which is why im going to shower, + i cant stop coughing :( i inhaled too much!!!

Yeah the dust *****...i usually start out with a respirator on but buy the end of all the cutting it seems to get lost lol .

MDF boogers FTL

snfsh79077
05-12-2008, 06:28 PM
there is a toxin in mdf that will make you sick and I think can cause something worse....I still dont use a mask though....o and i second air guns ftw

InhumanAcura
05-12-2008, 06:32 PM
meh, air stapler FTW

brad nails > staples

bass-aholic
05-12-2008, 06:37 PM
Ehh i cant wait, im gonna go start putting it together even though i don't have the subs(ftl) lol

jco1385
05-12-2008, 06:38 PM
brad nails > staples

true, but mine were way to long. 1.25" staples > 2.25" nails

audioarsonal
05-12-2008, 07:49 PM
Save the dust!!!

IDSkoT
05-12-2008, 07:53 PM
Save the dust!!!

x2

You can compact it into more MDF! :eek::eek:

audioarsonal
05-12-2008, 08:05 PM
hey I never thought of that.You know that might be a good idea......

skydeaner
05-12-2008, 08:08 PM
you can use the dust mixed with fiberglass resin fyi

bass-aholic
05-12-2008, 09:30 PM
Ok guys heres where i am at for the night, tomorrow i will be finished. No more mdf dust, just the sweet sweet smell of liquid nails:D
You can kinda see i split the wood :crap: but filled it with liquid nails so i hope it will be alright. Maybe my bit was a tad bit to small.
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/4356/box2za4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Mmmmm sammich
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/7518/bafflegluefp5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


These batteries are good for more than just stiffening your electrical:laugh: thats over 300lbs
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/6672/doublebafflelv4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

steveyhustle
05-12-2008, 09:33 PM
finish it!! ha

Atimm693
05-12-2008, 09:45 PM
Holy fawk those must be some heavy batteries.

Flipx99
05-12-2008, 09:48 PM
More bracing!!!

tommyk90
05-12-2008, 09:51 PM
More bracing!!!

x2

A box that large is gonna need it.

bass-aholic
05-12-2008, 10:06 PM
im gonna try it out and if its needed ill go back and add threaded rods. i know its probably gonna need it

Flipx99
05-12-2008, 10:08 PM
The correct amount of bracing will alter tuning.,,

chinxtaboi
05-13-2008, 06:10 AM
youre using liquid nails? not wood glue?

Fusion_FREAK
05-13-2008, 06:30 AM
The dust *****, but it's livable. What I really hate is that it's a b1tch to cut with a jigsaw when cutting your holes for the sub.

Save the dust in a coffee can. That stuff is very useful when your filling in screw holes or small gaps, or in your case a split in wood.

bass-aholic
05-13-2008, 07:26 PM
:veryhapp::veryhapp::veryhapp:almost done!!! moarr pics! this thing is heavy.

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2646/topviewportof5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/6576/portnobafflege4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/6531/portwithbaffle2yl5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/3088/39871006ke6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/373/onedownrf7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
/\ water on the other sub hole in case you were wondering ....


And thats all. Ill finish tomorrow when i get the subs and put it all in. I cant really crank it until i get my alt yet =( dam voltage drops.

photocrazy8
05-13-2008, 07:31 PM
I wood have used Birch. I hate MDF too, plus with Birch, you have less weight and no pre-drilling.

you should pre drill all types of wood :fyi:

pd8731
05-13-2008, 07:38 PM
i hear some **** thats bad for u if u eat or inhale to much

I can't imagine that any amount of MDF dust is good to eat.

budahbuddy803
05-13-2008, 07:42 PM
i love eating dust

RAM_Designs
05-13-2008, 07:44 PM
Hey, that's my design. :D

Oh, and I told him to just brace it where neccessary...I don't put any bracing in my designs.

bass-aholic
05-13-2008, 08:09 PM
:D yessir, im gonna test it out and then determine where i need to brace. i think the top and bottom will be alright but the 4 sides are gonna need some reinforcement.

Hey, that's my design. :D

Oh, and I told him to just brace it where neccessary...I don't put any bracing in my designs.

fwb_1234
05-14-2008, 01:26 AM
So why the construction adhesive and not wood glue. The wood glue is def cheaper.

And I also have started using a 15 ga finish nailer. So much faster, and arguably nicer looking.

bass-aholic
05-14-2008, 05:51 PM
:eek::eek:
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/753/pic0159ot5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/3039/pic0160hp3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

These things are freaking huge :D:D
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/8366/pic0161wp2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1618/pic0162oi2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Ahh a perfect fit, cutting the second hole tonight + test run :veryhapp:
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/1669/pic0165mk5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Redlineaudio
05-14-2008, 08:28 PM
What I really hate is that it's a b1tch to cut with a jigsaw when cutting your holes for the sub.



Router and Jasper Jig FTW.

tez4life
05-14-2008, 09:04 PM
Looks good whats the external specs of the box?

steveyhustle
05-14-2008, 09:04 PM
cant wait to see how it sounds:)

bass-aholic
05-14-2008, 10:31 PM
Dimensions are 41w X 28d X 20h PICHAS!!!!11!!1!
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/5728/pic0167oi6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/2718/pic0168wp4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Tried to get a pic but it was dark.
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/4580/pic0169nl3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I cant believe how loud it is, i cant turn it up to much with out my alternator but still about 500rms each they take your breath away. It hurts :(

djvi0lent
05-14-2008, 11:03 PM
What's the box tuned to? And what was the size after displacement.. 12 cubes or so?

twisztdauthorit
05-14-2008, 11:10 PM
what size is your stock alt?

I will be running a 2500d and a 8004 off a 130amp alt +stock battery and extra battery when i can afford one...
i have a feeling my gains will be set low for a while haha


btw what load are you running the amp at?

bass-aholic
05-14-2008, 11:14 PM
Box is around 10 after sub and port displacement, tuned to 35hz. My stock alt is a 90 amp i am told but am not sure. I have 2 extra batts right now. When the 250 amp alternator comes i am gonna throw 1 more batt in even though it probably wont be needed. To run that amp your deff gonna need some electrical backup.

steveyhustle
05-14-2008, 11:38 PM
**** sick!!! now tahts **** haha

DBDesignsElite
05-14-2008, 11:41 PM
Vids??? That back shot of the setup is NICE!! Got to luv that

geowick07
05-14-2008, 11:44 PM
Looks good. Nice work!

moh.vze.com
05-14-2008, 11:45 PM
Vids??? That back shot of the setup is NICE!! Got to luv that

x2

RAM_Designs
05-14-2008, 11:55 PM
man, I'm glad it turned out nice, and that you like it....it's always good to see someone happy when you design something for them.

bass-aholic
05-15-2008, 12:19 AM
Thanks for all the comments! It was to dark to take a video but i will try tomorrow. i have a feeling im gonna need to get an ipod ready HU when i get the HO alt =DD its already having issues.

skittlesRgood
05-15-2008, 04:58 AM
very nice man. i was going to go with fi's too but they dont make an HO alt for my car =(

funny thing is i got my new subs in the same day as you. just thought that was cool.

bass-aholic
05-15-2008, 03:33 PM
no new pics/vids yet but i have a problem. I am using the biggest screws i can fit in the holes on the basket for the subs and well....when the subs are going ape **** on low notes they are visibly ripping the screws out of the box. What am i supposed to do? I have the biggest screws possible in there, and i don't wanna drill my brand new subs baskets out:crap:

Mr.B
05-15-2008, 07:14 PM
could you remove the baffle and bolt the subs in instead of screw them? might be a pain in the *** but it should work solid

RAM_Designs
05-15-2008, 07:30 PM
coarse thread drywall screws...

bass-aholic
05-18-2008, 01:55 AM
Just a little update my alternator is coming in Monday so i will get some install pics of that than comes vids!!!!

bass-aholic
05-19-2008, 05:19 PM
POWER!! Install pics later and hopefully i can get a video before it gets dark.
http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/8437/pic0171rb5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/530/pic0173wb5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

bass-aholic
05-19-2008, 09:22 PM
Replacing an alternator wasn't AS hard as i thought it would be.....
Out with the old...eww
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/5503/pic0175bh9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And in with the new
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/7931/pic0176uc0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

So purdy
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/4447/pic0177wh8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


So how does it work? Ran up and got a doubleshot, mmmm and of course test it out.
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/8435/pic0178ec4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

It comes alive above 1krpm, at full tilt holds 13-14. At idle full tilt it holds around 12. It got too dark to take a video again :( i fooled around with a TTB cd and jesus christ the flex is nasty.

MikeR.
05-19-2008, 09:55 PM
Bring on the viddy!

bass-aholic
05-21-2008, 07:58 PM
VIDYAA!! Note i fail at holding the camera steady while maintaining a +1krpm.....Maybe another one of some flex to. http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k96/motosk8er2/th_HPIM2247.jpg (http://s86.photobucket.com/albums/k96/motosk8er2/?action=view&current=HPIM2247.flv)

Something i have noticed is these subs get fuggin hot!! I set my gains with a dmm but there still smelling a little funny. I am also going to change up my battery location because i think i am suffocating the ports to much. I only have about 5 inches of breathing room and if i move the batts i can have about 5 more inches.

bass-aholic
05-21-2008, 08:14 PM
=(

steveyhustle
05-22-2008, 12:00 AM
play some jeezy!

Chode69
05-22-2008, 08:22 PM
looks good. ive seen and felt a few FIs get pretty warm on the dustcover when getting rated power. Randy or Assman the one with the F150 his 18 inch BLs get pretty warm on the dustcap after playing for a little. Hes got 4 powered off a T40001bd down to 1 ohm so there getting anywhere from 1000-1200 watts RMS. Then i seen a guy with a civic and he had a 15 inch Q and it would get pretty warm. never any problems though

hope to see some numbers soon and see what your hitting

Freelander
10-01-2008, 03:39 AM
Not going to be a **** like you were in my thread. Build looks nice

JayinMI
10-01-2008, 07:26 AM
These batteries are good for more than just stiffening your electrical:laugh: thats over 300lbs
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/6672/doublebafflelv4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


They look like big Legos. :) Can you build stuff with them? :laugh:

Jay