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tcguy85
04-25-2008, 10:12 PM
i kept it pretty simple and relatively inexpensive. it's nothing special or crazy or show quality, just a simple, but powerful, good sounding 2-way active front stage with a sub.


-for the HU i have a Pioneer 880PRS.

-i'm running the PG RSD65CS's upfront. mids in the stock door locations and the tweeters flush mounted in the factory kick panels on-axis.

-for a sub i am using a single Dayton Reference H.O. ten. it is in a strange looking but highly effective ported enclosure. it is in .7 cubic ft NET, tuned to 30hz using a 3" round port with a flare on each end. half of the 24" long port is tucked away inside the enclosure but the whole 24" could not fit inside so the other half is external. may look a bit odd but it sounds way better than it looks. function over form is the way i see it, but it doesn't look THAT bad IMO.

-for power i am running DD (Digital Designs) amplifiers. i have an S4 for the front comps, and a C2a bridged for the sub. the S4 for those who don't know about it, does 200x2 AND 100x2. a 4 channel with staggered outputs. so 200 per RSD mid, and 100 per RSD tweeter. the C2a can do 620 watts at 4 ohms bridged to the sub.

-for power upgrades i did the simple, yet effective big 3. thats all, stock battery, stock alt.

-for rca's i am using the knukoncepts krystal kable. power wire is whatever 4 gauge power wire has been in my last 3 cars (from a Rockford kit if i remember right). speaker wire is plain old radio shack 16 and 18 gauge.

-also the doors are deadened and sealed using Elemental Designs Edead V1SE2. i might continue to deaden more of the car but i find the doors to be most important.

ok on with the pictures.....

first i will share a couple pictures of the car itself, since i also care about how the exterior looks. :-)
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_2497.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_2543.jpg

ok onto the system pics...
the HU
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_2597.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_2600.jpg

the front stage
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_1866.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_1860.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_2357.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_1795.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_1802.jpg

tcguy85
04-25-2008, 10:12 PM
inside the hatch
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_2693.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_2740.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_2730.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_2856.jpg

the big 3, sorry for the dirtyness under the hood.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_2334.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_2326.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_2318.jpg

stuckinok
04-25-2008, 10:15 PM
I likes


clean never goes out of style

rollerdj
04-25-2008, 10:15 PM
lookin good. teh dj give two tumbs up. :)

tcguy85
04-25-2008, 10:21 PM
thanks dudes! :)

tez4life
04-26-2008, 02:38 AM
Nice clean simple install. It sounds good, thats the main thing.

I have been checking out your install since you first posted up a review of the PG RSDs and have been very impressed. Very nice, sir.

Goindef154
04-26-2008, 05:26 AM
Looks good man, like the car too.

tcguy85
04-26-2008, 08:36 AM
thanks guys. i finally feel that i'm pretty much done. unless i blow a mid or tweet everything will stay as is for a while. i might do some more deadening sometime but other than that i think i'm good for a while.

bigbangtheory
04-26-2008, 08:44 AM
Perfect, wouldn't change a thing.

MikeyB
04-26-2008, 02:28 PM
**** and clean! Me likes :D

Dozy_production
04-26-2008, 02:34 PM
edit: what kind of foam material did you use on your inner door panel?

tcguy85
04-26-2008, 08:36 PM
edit: what kind of foam material did you use on your inner door panel?

on the plastic door card i used some Edead v1se2, some expanding foam, and then filled all the empty cavities with polyfil (the white stuff you see). the doors make absolutely zero noise at all. no rattles, no buzzes, they are dead!

Powers
04-26-2008, 08:50 PM
I looked at getting a tC, but figured I wouldn't keep it for long, so I got the E. :)

BrianChia
04-26-2008, 08:59 PM
Install looks great. I see you upgraded the box.

Great choice of subwoofer too. :)

pd8731
04-26-2008, 09:03 PM
I am looking at getting a tC. Could you do me a huge favor?

Take the max square dimensions of the trunk? Like the absolute max a perfectly square box would fit.

Please.

DejaWiz
04-26-2008, 09:09 PM
Very nice man!

tcguy85
04-26-2008, 11:11 PM
I am looking at getting a tC. Could you do me a huge favor?

Take the max square dimensions of the trunk? Like the absolute max a perfectly square box would fit.

Please.

i can tell you that you can fit a 40" wide box in there. thats about max width. height if you wanna use the cargo cover to hide it is i think 14". no really sure how deep of a box you can use. if i had to guess i'd say you could do 40x14x maybe 18".

tcguy85
04-26-2008, 11:14 PM
Very nice man!

thanks! i'm proud of myself. it took a while to get where it is though. :)

tcguy85
05-01-2008, 11:02 PM
man, i just got a new CD yesterday. i just got done auditioning it in the car and words can't describe how much i love this whole setup. sounds so good, gets so loud and stays crystal clear. i think i finally got the hang of this tuning thing. lol. :)

tcguy85
05-12-2008, 08:13 PM
new pics... tinted the windows on her :)
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_2978.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_2986.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_2974.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_2969.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_2966.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_2987.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_2989.jpg

silvercookie
05-12-2008, 08:16 PM
seriously need a new hood and a new wing.

stock is killin me.

miker
05-12-2008, 08:17 PM
I like it, a lot.

steveyhustle
05-12-2008, 08:26 PM
very nice and clean man nice setup i bet it sounds nice

speedfreak28
05-12-2008, 08:33 PM
very clean, subtle is the way to go, any more it would kill the car.

silvercookie
05-12-2008, 08:35 PM
you should see my friends scion.

practically everything is carbon fiber
turboed
subbed
exhausted
intaked
rimmed ( lol)
audioed.

tcguy85
05-12-2008, 08:35 PM
seriously need a new hood and a new wing.

stock is killin me.

whats wrong with the wing?

and i'd do a carbon fiber hood but at $500 it seems like a waste.

silvercookie
05-12-2008, 08:37 PM
yea tru.

idk just seems to wide it kinda wraps around the quarter panels.

h/o let me get you something i would put on my scion

silvercookie
05-12-2008, 08:40 PM
http://www.auroramotorsport.co.uk/shop/images/Venom.jpg

sometin like that atleast/

tcguy85
05-12-2008, 08:41 PM
yea tru.

idk just seems to wide it kinda wraps around the quarter panels.

h/o let me get you something i would put on my scion

i seriously don't know if i'm going to do anything else to it. i need to start a new hobby. i might buy a supermoto bike.

speedfreak28
05-12-2008, 08:42 PM
that wings terrible, too fast and furious,

tcguy85
05-12-2008, 08:42 PM
http://www.auroramotorsport.co.uk/shop/images/Venom.jpg

sometin like that atleast/

not my style. that screams rice to me.

silvercookie
05-12-2008, 08:42 PM
not that color tho.

silvercookie
05-12-2008, 08:44 PM
not my style. that screams rice to me.

but you have the power to back it up so its not really ricer.

i think of ricer as cars that have so much crap on them to look fast but go slow.

if you have a car that looks riced but can pull mid 12's i consider that racing upgrades not looks upgrades.

tcguy85
05-12-2008, 08:45 PM
nah i'm good with the car as is. like i was saying i want to get back on a bike again. so time to start saving for that.

speedfreak28
05-12-2008, 08:45 PM
what about that wing would help performance?

innsanes
05-12-2008, 08:48 PM
I like the simple setup, i think there was a guy that did the wrap around port like you did on the HO on DIYMA forum. Could be you. I was wondering if you have the plans and what port angles to get it to wrap around. Looks clean. Keep up the good work

silvercookie
05-12-2008, 08:48 PM
i didnt say it would just saying. lol i have no idea wtf im talking about.

tc i heard yamaha is claiming to have the fastest sport bike around now.

as far as im concerned honda cbr xx is in the top 3 fastest. with the hayabusa coming in first as of now. not sure about the r1 never really read up about it

tcguy85
05-12-2008, 08:55 PM
I like the simple setup, i think there was a guy that did the wrap around port like you did on the HO on DIYMA forum. Could be you. I was wondering if you have the plans and what port angles to get it to wrap around. Looks clean. Keep up the good work

i am on diyma so it might have been me. chad also did it with the same sub but did i lil differently.

i don't really have plans. i bought the sealed box off ebay and bought some of the port tubing and 90 degree angled pieces and plotted the length out using winisd.

idk if this helps ya... http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_1907.jpg

tcguy85
05-12-2008, 08:56 PM
i didnt say it would just saying. lol i have no idea wtf im talking about.

tc i heard yamaha is claiming to have the fastest sport bike around now.

as far as im concerned honda cbr xx is in the top 3 fastest. with the hayabusa coming in first as of now. not sure about the r1 never really read up about it

well i sell KTM's at my job so i'm thinking a 690 supermoto. i had a Kawi 636 and it was fun and all but i wanna try a supermoto.

tcguy85
08-31-2008, 09:49 PM
well got the bike i wanted, totaled it, and now am back to the car. :-)

i got new mids, and got new tweeters and mounted the tweeters in my pillars.

ID OEM's and Seas neo's with the aluminum domes.

pretty sweet combo! :)

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3536.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3537.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3541.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3542.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3418.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3417.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3420.jpg

oh, and i got an RTA. here is a chart of the FR response at the headrest.

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/8-29-08carscanwithnewseasneosabout2.jpg

sounds soooo good. the mids have tons of mid-bass, very punchy, and a clear buttery smooth mid-range.

the tweeters sound smooth, accurate, and detailed, and extend VERY high.

a very killer and pretty inexpensive 2-way active front stage.

G0NGSHOW
08-31-2008, 10:35 PM
looks good, i like it, i've been looking at getting a tC after the winter. how do you like it, and have you been through a winter with it, if so how'd it handle the snow?

tcguy85
09-01-2008, 12:56 AM
looks good, i like it, i've been looking at getting a tC after the winter. how do you like it, and have you been through a winter with it, if so how'd it handle the snow?

i love the tC.

i have gone through two winters with it so far and both of them with it lowered 2". last winter my tires were pretty shot to and it was still pretty good. the car handles it fine.

tcguy85
09-01-2008, 12:58 AM
here are a few pics of her. :)

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3490.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3492.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3520.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3521.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3523.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3527-1.jpg

blazinb2000
09-01-2008, 01:05 AM
Nice looking car and very clean install. I think the stock wing looks great on it.

tcguy85
09-01-2008, 01:19 AM
Nice looking car and very clean install. I think the stock wing looks great on it.

thanks man!

Gilliz
09-01-2008, 01:22 AM
Simple and clean....looks good. Tweets firing right at your face? Good thing your running active :P.

tcguy85
09-01-2008, 01:24 AM
Simple and clean....looks good. Tweets firing right at your face? Good thing your running active :P.

thanks. yup, on-axis in the pillars. really really brings out the top end. you should try it.

they aren't really "in you face" though. the left one is 43.5" away and the right one is 55.5" away. so thats still roughly 4 feet.

tcguy85
09-01-2008, 10:49 PM
my new better looking, and more importantly better sounding curve.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/9-1-8carscanroofclosed-mids25tweets.jpg

the 3k-5k range is 2db down from that graph now, but thats pretty much it. got it much smoother looking.

audiobahnuser18
09-01-2008, 10:53 PM
very nice man very nice install look's real clean. real nice work man.

silvercookie
09-01-2008, 10:56 PM
are you coming to the long island competition?

tcguy85
09-01-2008, 11:01 PM
are you coming to the long island competition?

when is that? maybe.

silvercookie
09-01-2008, 11:02 PM
when is that? maybe.

september 21st,
its a sunday i think.

i think it is going to be like a semi-ca.com NY meet too.

tcguy85
09-01-2008, 11:04 PM
september 21st,
its a sunday i think.

i think it is going to be like a semi-ca.com NY meet too.

have a link with more info on it?

silvercookie
09-01-2008, 11:06 PM
http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=329891

gordos420
09-02-2008, 01:04 AM
how are the new mids compared to the old ones?and are you giving them the same amount of power?

tcguy85
09-02-2008, 01:15 AM
how are the new mids compared to the old ones?and are you giving them the same amount of power?

they sound clearer, are more sensitive and get louder than the RSD mids. same power, 200 watts each.

gordos420
09-02-2008, 01:20 AM
nice..how are they liking that power

tcguy85
09-02-2008, 01:21 AM
nice..how are they liking that power

they love it.

gordos420
09-02-2008, 01:40 AM
where do they sell those mids at?

alxmlr789
09-02-2008, 01:48 AM
where do they sell those mids at?


hessdawg.

tcguy85
09-02-2008, 08:52 PM
hessdawg.

you gots it! he is the man for hooking everybody up with such good inexpensive mids.

gordos420
09-02-2008, 09:02 PM
yeah 90 bucks is super cheap for those mids

tcguy85
09-02-2008, 09:07 PM
yeah 90 bucks is super cheap for those mids

hells yea son! :D

MikeyB
09-02-2008, 10:34 PM
I just got mine today! :D ^

tcguy85
09-02-2008, 10:36 PM
I just got mine today! :D ^

X2 on the hells yea son!:D

put em in?

MikeyB
09-02-2008, 10:43 PM
X2 on the hells yea son!:D

put em in?

Naa not yeah, I gotta fully glass my door panels first cuz they're too beefy to fit in my pods :laugh:

Hooked one up and listened to it though and they sound teh ***! :boink:

Weeznur32
09-03-2008, 04:19 AM
i was reading the first very first post and you said you were giving each mid 200 watts and each tweeter 100watts.

**** haha how did the RSDs like that?

tcguy85
09-03-2008, 11:40 PM
i was reading the first very first post and you said you were giving each mid 200 watts and each tweeter 100watts.

**** haha how did the RSDs like that?

they didn't mind it at all actually. as long as you know what you're doing you'd be ok.

the mids and tweets i'm using now like it better though. :D

tcguy85
09-04-2008, 09:04 AM
also installed the pack of Damplifier Pro that i won on here as well. installed it all except for one sheet which i plan to put on my hatch lid.

awesome stuff, here are some pics...
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3544.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3545.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3546.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3547.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3548.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3549.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3550.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3551.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3552.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3553.jpg

the car seems a bit quiter and the panels i placed it on are definitely deader. the tap test porves that. the real test will be on my way to work tomorrow.

tcguy85
09-04-2008, 09:05 AM
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3554.jpg

tcguy85
09-14-2008, 06:38 PM
my latest progress. just wanted to sum everything up in one post as to where i'm at with my install.

the equipment being used: 880PRS, ID OEM 6.5" mids, Seas neo aluminum tweeters, DD S4 and DD C2a amps, Dayton Ref H.O. 10(.7net, tuned to 30hz)

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/systemdiagramV2.jpg

actual pics

tweeter pillar pods:
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3542.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3541.jpg

the mids:
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3418.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3420.jpg

Head Unit:
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_2597.jpg

inside the hatch:
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_2989.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_2987.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_2856.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_2740.jpg

tcguy85
09-26-2008, 01:33 AM
moved my tweeters again. lol

i had the spare set of already cut up kick panels so i have decided to make a set of pods for them for the kicks. i have been not so happy with my tweeters in my pillars. thats one of reasons why i never really finished them. i liked the extra stage height but i could never tame them. they always seemed to overpower the mids even though the level on them was pretty low and they were crossed pretty high.

i'm not going to jump to any conclusions quite yet, but so far just after a couple hours, the seas tweeters seem to sound much much better down in the kicks. i moved the crossover point down to 2.5k/24db as well (instead of 4k/12db), a spot i tried when in the pillars and only made things worse, now sounds great with them mounted down in the kicks.

i have them aimed somewhat (kinda roughly so far) on-axis. i slightly enlarged the holes that i already had in my kicks, stuck the pvc couplers in and quickly hot glued them at what i had guessed would be close to on-axis. the left side needs to point a bit more to the left, the right side needs to point a tiny bit more to the right and also up a bit as well. but it was pretty close for a quick guess.

i used the Auto EQ & T/A to get my T/A numbers again, and since it ran the EQ part as well i figured i'd give it yet another shot. this time i was actually pretty happy with how it set it up. i listened for a little bit, then whipped out the RTA to get a quick flat baseline tune. the upper mid-range that showed a huge dip before isn't such a big dip anymore. it leveled it off somehow.

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3593.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3584.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3582.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3588.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/9-26-08carscanoverlaypillarvskic-1.jpg

the teal line is the last scan i did with them in the pillars, the yellow line is the scan i just did with them in the kicks after very minimal tuning. i'm sure that from 8k on up will level out a bit once they are put perfectly on-axis.

tomorrow and over the weekend i will have them finished up. i need to aim them better first. i will make up a little MDF piece with a hole drilled in the middle to aim them with a laser pointer.

this job will be a lot easier of a job than trying to do the pillars. a little bit of body filler and some paint and she'll be all set and looking good.

miker
09-26-2008, 07:53 AM
I like your HU. :) It's so symmetrical

mlstrass
09-26-2008, 08:26 AM
tweeters that low drop the stage? Nice install and should sound good.

stuckinok
09-26-2008, 08:41 AM
looking good

jdc753
09-26-2008, 08:47 AM
Looking forward to seeing how this turns out for you. Mine are mounted in the sail panels and I also have them crossed high (4k) since they started to sound a bit worse going down from there. Definitely wondering how your stage height is with the tweets down low.

Which version of True RTA is that? And your using the $100 RTA setup Jorge wrote about correct? Gotta order that stuff up so I can be ready to do some serious tuning.

tcguy85
09-26-2008, 08:57 AM
tweeters that low drop the stage? Nice install and should sound good.

i had a different set of tweeters there in the past and stage height seemed kinda low.

are there ways around it? they shouldn't seem low when mounted there?

tcguy85
09-26-2008, 09:00 AM
Looking forward to seeing how this turns out for you. Mine are mounted in the sail panels and I also have them crossed high (4k) since they started to sound a bit worse going down from there. Definitely wondering how your stage height is with the tweets down low.

Which version of True RTA is that? And your using the $100 RTA setup Jorge wrote about correct? Gotta order that stuff up so I can be ready to do some serious tuning.

i had tweeters mounted in the same location before and it sounded nice but just lacked stage height. i'm gonna see what i can do about that now that these are much better tweeters. maybe it'll be different this time around.

it's level one. the 1/3rd octave. an yes it's the $100 rta setup, but it's more like $175 if you want at least the 1/3rd octave truerta and then you have to buy a usb cable if you don't already have the right one at your house. i still think its a great little investment.

jdc753
09-26-2008, 09:30 AM
i had tweeters mounted in the same location before and it sounded nice but just lacked stage height. i'm gonna see what i can do about that now that these are much better tweeters. maybe it'll be different this time around.

it's level one. the 1/3rd octave. an yes it's the $100 rta setup, but it's more like $175 if you want at least the 1/3rd octave truerta and then you have to buy a usb cable if you don't already have the right one at your house. i still think its a great little investment.

Sweet, thats what I was thinking about the RTA, I should have the USB cable and such just need to tack on the cost of the higher resolution software. Totally agree on the investment :greedy: Try and make more use of my TruckPuter as well too lol, laptop would probably be easier but would be cool to just have it right in-dash.

Best of luck on getting the stage height back, with them right on axis and the better tweets should work out pretty good for you.

king ranch
09-26-2008, 04:02 PM
so if you have a set of comps mounted in the kicks and another set of comps with a mid in each door and a tweet in each side of the pillars would that balance out the stage height

budahbuddy803
09-26-2008, 04:09 PM
i would imagine you would enjoy the tweeters a little bit higher. I have seen a bunch of installs with the tweets sitting all lonely down so low.

I love the car and the install/setup is extremely clean! I like what you have done, i just imagine the tweets would be a little nicer up in the A-pillars or at least in the door somewhere./

tcguy85
09-26-2008, 11:52 PM
tonight when i got home from work i got them aimed 100% on axis. aimed them at the center of the drivers side headrest at ear level. sounds soooo nice! better than ever. amazing detail without overpowering the mids. sounds really smooth, yet still detailed up top.

to aim them i got a little creative with a laser pointer and a piece of mdf. i cut out a piece of mdf that would fit into the PVC fitting and then drilled a hole in the center of it and stuck the laser pointer into it. i then aimed them and took out the hot glue gun and went to town. the are rock solid!

just need to get some body filler or putty or something and blend them in, and then paint them up.

a pic of my homemade aiming tool
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3596.jpg

a few pics of them as of now. hopefully this weekend i'll get them lookin nice.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3600.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3599.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3597.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3598.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3605.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3606.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3608.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3607.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3618.jpg

bigbangtheory
09-27-2008, 07:59 AM
Man, I wish I had the time and well, ahh.........patience you have, lol! I would be so frustrated by now!

Not to bad, but I am sure they will look better once you get them all painted up and stuff. I commend you on you testing, testing and testing to see where they would sound the best to you. I could only imagine how good my set would sound if I was to mess around with that, but don't have an RTA to mess around with, nor the know how really.

Congrads again and enjoy. I do have a feeling you will be getting something else soon, or moving them again. Just a hunch. ;)

tcguy85
09-27-2008, 08:24 AM
Man, I wish I had the time and well, ahh.........patience you have, lol! I would be so frustrated by now!

Not to bad, but I am sure they will look better once you get them all painted up and stuff. I commend you on you testing, testing and testing to see where they would sound the best to you. I could only imagine how good my set would sound if I was to mess around with that, but don't have an RTA to mess around with, nor the know how really.

Congrads again and enjoy. I do have a feeling you will be getting something else soon, or moving them again. Just a hunch. ;)

why do ya say that?

tcguy85
09-27-2008, 08:29 AM
oh and one more picture that i forgot to post before.
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3624.jpg

bigbangtheory
09-27-2008, 05:56 PM
You seem to be a big audio enthusiast and don't seem to be happy with something for too long, or like me, just like to try new stuff. You loved your RSD's so much and went with those, then weren't happy with those after a while and keep the tweets because you said you loved them so much. Then you were happy and wrote a review about that setup and then wanted a different tweeter and went the Sea's. Then put them up in the APillar and wrote a review how much you liked them there after getting them dialed in. Well now you are not happy with it and put them back down in the kicks.

Just saying, you like to try different stuff, I imagine you will want something different after a while. Nothing wrong with that, I am much the same way, which ***** when you have no bank, lol!

tcguy85
09-27-2008, 11:02 PM
You seem to be a big audio enthusiast and don't seem to be happy with something for too long, or like me, just like to try new stuff. You loved your RSD's so much and went with those, then weren't happy with those after a while and keep the tweets because you said you loved them so much. Then you were happy and wrote a review about that setup and then wanted a different tweeter and went the Sea's. Then put them up in the APillar and wrote a review how much you liked them there after getting them dialed in. Well now you are not happy with it and put them back down in the kicks.

Just saying, you like to try different stuff, I imagine you will want something different after a while. Nothing wrong with that, I am much the same way, which ***** when you have no bank, lol!

i gotcha. i keep saying that i'm done. but it never ends man.

i got no bank either. this cost me a dollar so far(the two pvc fittings). the last pillar project cost me maybe 20 bucks. i'm really not spending THAT much.

bigbangtheory
09-28-2008, 08:44 AM
Go to a shop and tell them to make some custom A-pillars for the tweets and tell me it don't cost much, lol!

Just be glad you have skillz to do the ish yourself. I do too, just don't have the time. :(

tcguy85
09-28-2008, 11:45 AM
Go to a shop and tell them to make some custom A-pillars for the tweets and tell me it don't cost much, lol!

Just be glad you have skillz to do the ish yourself. I do too, just don't have the time. :(

true dat.... true dat. :D

just got done re-sueding the pillars back to stock w/o the fugly pods. :)
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3626.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/cavalier94sq/IMG_3625.jpg

looks pretty pimp!

kidwolf909
09-28-2008, 11:54 AM
Looks good back in black man :)

I do wish I could hear your setup someday to see what I'm missing in my tC lol

tcguy85
09-28-2008, 12:00 PM
Looks good back in black man :)

I do wish I could hear your setup someday to see what I'm missing in my tC lol

thanks. i like it already.

come up to queens next Sunday for our meet. it's not THAT far from you. :D

tcguy85
10-04-2008, 11:34 PM
i just did some intense listening. sampled a lot of various material and everything sounded awesome!

the stage is wide, deep, and pretty high considering where things are mounted. sounds are dancing all over my dash and windshield. tonality also seems very realistic. sounds very smooth but with lots of authority when needed. i'm finally very happy with everything. i guess my last tuning session was pretty **** good!

:) :)