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tiny tim
04-10-2008, 06:08 PM
It's a tough decision...I'm tempted to go Alpine because of a better iPod interface and looks, but also to go pioneer because of SQ and bluetooth already installed. Anybody know if you can play an ipod through bluetooth somehow? Can anybody shed some light on the four to help me decide?

tiny tim
04-10-2008, 06:23 PM
oh yeah just to left u know what im working with 03 silverado crew cab:
Memphis m-class coaxial speakers: 6" in front 4"in back
2 -10" mclass 104D subs, 200/400 under back seat
power reference amp 1000w
stinger wire

chibahawk
04-10-2008, 06:37 PM
I had a comparable Alpine unit with iPod... an 880PRS and I have a 980BT now.

I love the 980 just slightly more than the 880 but both of em were a lot better then the Alpine.. pioneer is a winner in my book and the 980vs880 is basicly whether or not you want something classy or flashy.

plus the bluetooth is the **** man i love it.

the ipod interface on the alpine and the pioneer in my eyes weren that far apart.. same **** different curb

tiny tim
04-10-2008, 08:16 PM
just wonderin why you say that the pioneers were better? just because of sq, features or what?

tcguy85
04-10-2008, 10:14 PM
the 880, at least on paper kills, the 9887 in tuning features. if your main concern is SQ and tuning capabilities then get the 880.

i don't know much on the 9800bt, but i don't think it has quite the same tuning features as the 880. not sure if it can go active and i know it doesn't have the L/R EQ.

880 FTW!!

nismos14
04-11-2008, 03:36 PM
9800/980 cannot go active.

SQ on the 9887, in my experience is better as it starts of with a flatter fr right out of the box, for some reason.

tcguy85
04-12-2008, 02:12 AM
9800/980 cannot go active.

SQ on the 9887, in my experience is better as it starts of with a flatter fr right out of the box, for some reason.

are you sure the 980/9800 can't? according to pioneers website it can http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Products/CarAudioVideo/Source/CD-Players/DEH-P9800BT?tab=B

i says 3 way crossover.

nismos14
04-12-2008, 09:57 AM
I'm sure. It needs to say Pro mode. They consider "3-way crossover" to be the sub and the hpf/lpf for front/rear.

Macklessdaddy
04-12-2008, 06:56 PM
I'm sure. It needs to say Pro mode. They consider "3-way crossover" to be the sub and the hpf/lpf for front/rear.

The 880 and 800 says 3way xover also and the lower level stuff says 2 way xover so I'm sure the 9800/980 is active capable

nismos14
04-12-2008, 08:20 PM
The 880 and 800 says 3way xover also and the lower level stuff says 2 way xover so I'm sure the 9800/980 is active capable

Do you have first hand experience? The 880 and 800 also say PRO mode, the 980 does not, and it does not run active. I have used it.

3-way, as stated = a crossover for front rear and sub.

Pro mode = active.

Macklessdaddy
04-12-2008, 09:25 PM
Whoa,please don't beat me up as I was just unsure myself,Now do YOU have firsthand experience with this unit,Can someone with this HU answer this question once and for all

Oops I see you have used it,now you won your 1st e-fight with me,You happy now

Macklessdaddy
04-12-2008, 09:28 PM
Do you have first hand experience? The 880 and 800 also say PRO mode, the 980 does not, and it does not run active. I have used it.

3-way, as stated = a crossover for front rear and sub.

Pro mode = active.

but why doesn't the other Hu's say 3 way xover as they have a xover for front ,rear and sub

nismos14
04-13-2008, 01:17 AM
Do you have first hand experience? The 880 and 800 also say PRO mode, the 980 does not, and it does not run active. I have used it.

3-way, as stated = a crossover for front rear and sub.

Pro mode = active.


Whoa,please don't beat me up as I was just unsure myself,Now do YOU have firsthand experience with this unit,Can someone with this HU answer this question once and for all

Oops I see you have used it,now you won your 1st e-fight with me,You happy now

If you re-read my first post I only stated facts, nothing argumentative. Not sure why you took it that way. Maybe a little e-sensitive? I'm sorry maybe next time I'll throw in some smileys so you're sure of it. :rolleyes:


but why doesn't the other Hu's say 3 way xover as they have a xover for front ,rear and sub

The 2-way ones only have high pass and low pass - the high pass effects the front and rears both, not individually, and then the sub has low pass.

nismos14
04-13-2008, 01:24 AM
The 880 and 800 says 3way xover also and the lower level stuff says 2 way xover so I'm sure the 9800/980 is active capable


Whoa,please don't beat me up as I was just unsure myself,Now do YOU have firsthand experience with this unit,Can someone with this HU answer this question once and for all

Oops I see you have used it,now you won your 1st e-fight with me,You happy now


If you were unsure, why did you say you were sure previously with no first hand experience? :D

ebrunn
04-13-2008, 03:41 AM
If you cant bandpass the mids then its not active capable.

kidwolf909
04-13-2008, 03:46 AM
Sheesh...why has nobody mentioned the Eclipse CD7200mkII?

It has everything that you want, already installed in the unit. It's 3-way active, 11-band PEQ, 8V Pre-outs, USB input built in (Thumb drive and portable HDD), BT phone and audio built in, Copper chassis, 24k Gold RCA's, HD/SAT radio ready, nice screen, Time Alignment, Circle SurroundII w/ Trubass, ESN. Ipod adapter is only $40, not $100 like Alpine and Pioneer.

It's an amazing unit, I have it, you should buy it. I love mine :) Though the 880/800 and 9887 are great, they cannot stack up feature wise to the 7200 without a butt load of addons and the 7200 has all the processing power of the 880 and more than the 9887 (w/o Imprint) as well as the SQ to boot.

Get it, you won't regret it, I promise.