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sqhertz
03-30-2008, 10:46 PM
its for my bearded dragon , lol. have a quick question. ill be using melamine and was wondering what would be a good adheasive? ill be making the one off this site - http://www.freewebs.com/crossfireenclosures/ and they mention liquid nails. would titebond be better? :confused:

couple pictures for those who want to see him...

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/sqhertz/TB006-1.jpg

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/sqhertz/1002.jpg

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/sqhertz/1009.jpg

jmanpc
03-30-2008, 10:47 PM
is that kind of like a bearded clam?

BushJ311
03-30-2008, 10:53 PM
Looks like a fun project.
use the liquid nail.

BrianChia
03-30-2008, 10:54 PM
I would probably go ported with subs up and port back.

rollerdj
03-30-2008, 10:55 PM
don't know about what to use. but how hard is it to take care of one. i've been on the womans case about getting one since they look cool. but what does it take to keep one alive. :D

bonesninja
03-30-2008, 10:57 PM
cool...about how much do bearded dragons cost? what do they eat? crickets?

budahbuddy803
03-30-2008, 10:58 PM
titebond is a wood glue i believe. It has chemicals in it that bond wood, not glass or w/e you are using. Liquid nails considering the fact that it is just an adhesive.

budget76
03-30-2008, 10:59 PM
Been wondering the same thing about the cost. I've wanted one for a while, just never actaully comitted myself. They're pretty awesome IMO

rollerdj
03-30-2008, 10:59 PM
cool...about how much do bearded dragons cost? what do they eat? crickets?

are u going to teach them how to do karate (sp?) like those chimps. :laugh:

BushJ311
03-30-2008, 10:59 PM
eat crickets. its not hard to care for.
you need this pouder to put on the crickets thats like 5 bucks.
you can get the bearded dragon at reptile shows for diff prices
the ones with good color. like fire dragons what ever are more.
but prob 100

BushJ311
03-30-2008, 11:02 PM
I knew a guy who breeded them too.
i got a lemon fire dragon from him
they are a cool pet.

budget76
03-30-2008, 11:18 PM
Just looked at what you plan on making. Isn't melamine just another type of pressed wood, or am I way off? I can't see liquid nails being a problem. It won't run like the wood glue i've used (titebond 1, never used the others), and it's not like your lizard is pounding on the walls like a sub would. Hell, I used liquid nails for my sub box before I knew better.

Good luck. that guy's awesome, he deserves a good home:cool:

sqhertz
03-30-2008, 11:21 PM
i guess ill just got with the liquid nails..

link to a bearded dragon forum - http://bearded-dragons.com/boards/index.php/topic,3164.0.html

i know i could of asked there , but this forum moves ALOT quicker , lol. btw , i paid $50 for mine , but people told me i could easily get $250 for him. :) he is a sandfire directly from the breeder.

sqhertz
03-30-2008, 11:22 PM
its pressed particle board with a plastic type coating. i would be using the adheasive for the wood , not for the plexi.

mrbomb
03-30-2008, 11:28 PM
how big do those things get?

sqhertz
03-30-2008, 11:34 PM
18-24" , iirc. up to ~500 grams.

hoxie08
03-30-2008, 11:40 PM
****. i miss my bearded dragon so much! he was awesome.

sqhertz
03-30-2008, 11:44 PM
lemme see if i can find some more pics...

sqhertz
03-30-2008, 11:49 PM
around when i first got him in early feb..

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/sqhertz/BD007.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/sqhertz/BD008.jpg

not too long ago...

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/sqhertz/TB011.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/sqhertz/TB006-1.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/sqhertz/TB008.jpg


most recent...

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/sqhertz/1001.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/sqhertz/1003.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/sqhertz/1004.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/sqhertz/1009.jpg

my favorite pic...

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/sqhertz/1002.jpg

lil_italy773
03-31-2008, 12:39 AM
i see at least u have the gritty paper down mine never made it long enuff to get that big i made a mistake of putting it in sand to soon and if there to small eating **** off the ground picks up granuls of sand and it will kill them. u have a heat lamp and a ceramic heater deal im sure. it sure grew in the last few months. i payed 70 bucks for mine at pet smart in oct of 07 died just b4 christmas.

sqhertz
03-31-2008, 10:35 AM
i see at least u have the gritty paper down mine never made it long enuff to get that big i made a mistake of putting it in sand to soon and if there to small eating **** off the ground picks up granuls of sand and it will kill them. u have a heat lamp and a ceramic heater deal im sure. it sure grew in the last few months. i payed 70 bucks for mine at pet smart in oct of 07 died just b4 christmas.


its actually textured tiles. :) much safer and easier to clean than sand or any of that other loose crap. i havnt taken him to the vet yet to get him checked up but im sure he is very healthy. when i first got him he was under 15grams and 6" , now hes 60g and 11".

BobbyDD
03-31-2008, 11:27 AM
Is the only place you're putting the adhesive on the front trim pieces and the track? I'd definately use liquid nails. I've never had a bearded dragon but that one's beautiful.

sqhertz
03-31-2008, 11:46 AM
Is the only place you're putting the adhesive on the front trim pieces and the track? I'd definately use liquid nails. I've never had a bearded dragon but that one's beautiful.


i was going to use it where ever there will be two pieces of wood screwed together...like i was building a box for a speaker. then some non-toxic caulk on the inside edges in case there is a spill or messy **** in there. and believe me , thier **** does get messy , and it smells ****ing terrible. :crap:

eric12421
03-31-2008, 12:31 PM
****, thats pretty cool!

Mr Cabinetry
03-31-2008, 12:33 PM
its for my bearded dragon , lol. have a quick question. ill be using melamine and was wondering what would be a good adheasive? ill be making the one off this site - http://www.freewebs.com/crossfireenclosures/ and they mention liquid nails. would titebond be better? :confused:

couple pictures for those who want to see him...

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/sqhertz/TB006-1.jpg

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/sqhertz/1002.jpg

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/sqhertz/1009.jpg

For cabinetry that is built with melamine, there is a glue for this called Roo Glue:

http://www.rooglue.com/

Been using this glue for years when any cabinetry project involved using melamine as the cabinet parts and the bond is very strong when fully cured/dried.

Phil
Woodlawn Cabinetry

BobbyDD
03-31-2008, 12:44 PM
i was going to use it where ever there will be two pieces of wood screwed together...like i was building a box for a speaker. then some non-toxic caulk on the inside edges in case there is a spill or messy **** in there. and believe me , thier **** does get messy , and it smells ****ing terrible. :crap:

You don't need to glue the wood together but it certainly won't hurt anything. Definately silicone good because melamine rots and cracks pretty quick when the exposed particle board gets wet. I hear you about the **** being messy and stinking, have you ever had to clean up **** from a 150 pound python?:crap: That should be a nice enclosure when you get it built.

sqhertz
03-31-2008, 04:39 PM
i know i dont NEED to glue the edges , buutt i want it to last for as long as possible. the guy in the link used nails , ill use screws.

i just went ahead and picked up some liquid nails 'project' type aheasive and ill go with that. i didnt find any caulk that was non-toxic at HD. i still have to go back to pick up the single standard base fixture (i think thats all i didnt get today..) so ill check again.

i hear ya on the snake poo, that **** stinks. but holy ****, for being so small , the stench that comes from this guys **** will make you gag.

dman4486
03-31-2008, 04:43 PM
couple pictures for those who want to see him...

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/sqhertz/TB006-1.jpg



GOOD VIBRATIONS!!!!!!!:D

BobbyDD
03-31-2008, 05:15 PM
i know i dont NEED to glue the edges , buutt i want it to last for as long as possible. the guy in the link used nails , ill use screws.

i just went ahead and picked up some liquid nails 'project' type aheasive and ill go with that. i didnt find any caulk that was non-toxic at HD. i still have to go back to pick up the single standard base fixture (i think thats all i didnt get today..) so ill check again.

i hear ya on the snake poo, that **** stinks. but holy ****, for being so small , the stench that comes from this guys **** will make you gag.

I didn't notice the first time that they used finish nails to build the one in the link. They should have definately used adhesive on it. I use kitchen and bath 100% silicone on enclosures. As long as you let it dry out several days it's fine and it seals better than any caulk.

Heavy Hitta
04-02-2008, 12:32 AM
best stuff is "PL Premium Polyurethane Construction Adhesive "....P.S. wear gloves, i doubt you will even need screws

sqhertz
04-07-2008, 10:25 PM
no pics yet , but it is more than halfway put together. just got a question. im planning on grouting some tiles in there but im worried about them not sticking to the melamine since its so slick. i understand i could rough it up with some 60grit or seomthing , but i dunno.
reason being , the only way i can get it to where it has to go i have to put it on its side, 90* and i dont want the tiles to come crashing down. ill be using 6" x 6" tiles so they wont be all that heavy.

input?

ssj2xxgotenxx
04-09-2008, 02:16 AM
Thought I'd photoshop one of your photos in honor of your project:


http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/sqhertz/TB006-1.jpg



http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f340/ssj2xxgotenxx/Lizard.jpg

sqhertz
04-09-2008, 07:19 PM
he's grown alot since that last pic. ill get some more after he sheds if any one would like...

input on the tiles? could i use liquid nails to stick them down after i rough up the melamine then grout between them?

sqhertz
04-10-2008, 05:40 PM
i ran out of liquid nails so ill have to finish the tile tomorrow and grout another day. pics-

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/sqhertz/NewCage001.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/sqhertz/NewCage002.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/sqhertz/NewCage003.jpg

:)


just thought id throw this one in there too...

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/sqhertz/Cokebottle001.jpg
creep mode , son.

ssj2xxgotenxx
04-10-2008, 08:03 PM
That's coming along real nice. He did get a lot bigger since then. Print the picture I edited, frame it, and stick it in the back ;P.

BrianChia
04-10-2008, 08:05 PM
Is that going to be enough port area?

sqhertz
04-10-2008, 11:16 PM
Is that going to be enough port area?

im hope so , thats all hes getting. :p:

sqhertz
05-25-2008, 11:27 PM
didnt need to bump an old thead but i felt i had to post new pictures since i just remembered about this thread.
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/sqhertz/Buddha003.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/sqhertz/new009.jpg
(those wre the girlfriends hands)
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/sqhertz/April18001.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/sqhertz/April25001.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/sqhertz/new016.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/sqhertz/new019.jpg
shes 270 grams and 17 inches now.
ill get more pictuers of the cage when i remember....

req
05-26-2008, 01:16 AM
that is a **** cool looking lizard. i would try and make some nicer looking lights to go in there, but it looks ******.

sqhertz
05-26-2008, 09:39 AM
that is a **** cool looking lizard. i would try and make some nicer looking lights to go in there, but it looks ******.

thanks. :)
i may do that later , but for now it works how it is. it was a pita to get the temps right in there so i think it might stay like that.

Cravingbass123
05-26-2008, 11:53 AM
nice lizard

but gf uh :crap:

sqhertz
05-26-2008, 11:58 AM
:rolleyes:

sqhertz
06-08-2008, 01:00 PM
im a picture *****. couldnt help myself...dont mind the pink shed sleeve.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/sqhertz/FiBuddha005.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/sqhertz/FiBuddha006.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/sqhertz/FiBuddha003.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l153/sqhertz/FiBuddha001.jpg

18" and 312 grams.