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bumpin buick
03-30-2008, 01:33 AM
I made this thread to have proof of an open dispute if there so be one. I purchased a T40001bd amp from LAX619. The price of $700 shipped. LAX619 had two of these amps and said he tested them both before he shipped. I have not hear word from Kasey but I am to assume his amp worked perfectly as I know he sold it off to someone else who was happy with it. The amp was packaged and shipped by UPS and insured but lets all be honest a dead amp will not be insured.

This past week I have worked on my build and tonight had everything finished and hooked up the amp and it come on instantly into protect. I have tested several different methods now of wiring the amp and same result everytime. I hooked it up in my friends car and also the same result. The amp is clearly not functional and I want to make this aware to everyone on the forum before they deal with LAX619. Here is a few pictures of the amp.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc256/usask8er1/IMG_3047.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc256/usask8er1/IMG_3092.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc256/usask8er1/IMG_3044.jpg

revrider1
03-30-2008, 01:34 AM
Yep, has to be dead man. There is no other way to test it, u have done all...

steveyhustle
03-30-2008, 01:36 AM
dam this *****, for that much money id be prettty heated myself. if LAX is a good guy i hope hes willin to help wit gettin it repaired. cuz we all kno bumpins been waitin for this build and amps just been chillin in his room and not being moved around to cause any damage. so hopefully from that 700bux hes willin to split repairs atleast. well see i gues..

hoxie08
03-30-2008, 01:39 AM
that ***** man

Coolwazabi
03-30-2008, 01:41 AM
that *****... we should do a UPS claim fraud :D !!!!


lol.. jk...
























unless you want to ?

bumpin buick
03-30-2008, 01:46 AM
All I want is for the amp to work. I got a box coming this week that I have busting Vitveets balls on to get done for me asap and now I dont have an amp to run. I just want this to be taken care of

oldschool4me
03-30-2008, 02:29 PM
that ***** man, i got a bad amp from him too bro. he has said he was going to give me the money to fix but always had an excuse to why he couldnt send the money. this has been since jan and now he doesnt even respond.

bad @SS chevy
03-30-2008, 02:33 PM
that ***** man,, there are alot of people bxtching about lax nowadays.

revrider1
03-30-2008, 02:33 PM
Interesting

oldschool4me
03-30-2008, 02:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by oldschool4me
get that money sent yet bro? cant help but to think i am getting the shaft here. this ***** man. i sent you your amps which you recieved them in two days. took me a week to get mine. then its fried. i tried to contacto local guy to fix it for a few days while keeping in contact with you the entire time. after a few days waiting fot the guy to return call i decided to contact db-r, chris from db-r tell me that the power supply looks to be fried. he states he will fix for 75 plus ship both ways so i tell you and i offer to pay one way ship and we both agree that $90 from you would be fair. you keep telling me im sending it paypal, then it i been so busy i will send it tomorrow, then it i only have 50 in paypal i will send that after dinner and the rest in next day or two. which has yet to happen bro. i have not made a thread on here about this as you and i both know that 99% of people would have. i have been very patient and understanding but its been a long friggin time here. patients are starting to wear a little thin bro. so could you please send me the $90 paypal that you have been promising me. its only right bro. i want to get this **** amp fixed man.

hey man sorry i have not been around, i thought i snet it through paypal, nut it looks like in having trouble wiht my account cause i have a few charges on there that are not mine. i will take care of you tonight hit me up on AIm Lax916 sorry for the delay.

bad @SS chevy
03-30-2008, 02:35 PM
lol @ i thought i sent it.

oldschool4me
03-30-2008, 02:37 PM
this was from feb 18th.

revrider1
03-30-2008, 02:38 PM
uh oh

J31Rob
03-30-2008, 02:40 PM
hahahahahahaha.

J31Rob
03-30-2008, 02:40 PM
jk dude.

oldschool4me
03-30-2008, 02:45 PM
yea i try him on aim and get no responce anymore. sad thing is it was only 90 bux. i feel for you man its prob gonna be alot more for your amp repair.

bumpin buick
03-30-2008, 03:51 PM
Could you get me the number for DB-R so I to can contact them about fixing the amp. My biggest fear is shipping charges I have a feeling it will cost 50+ easily to ship each way.

oldschool4me
03-30-2008, 03:54 PM
http://db-r.com/

steveyhustle
03-30-2008, 03:55 PM
jeez this ***** i gues we all know not to buy from LAX eh. unless u want a fried amp.

revrider1
03-30-2008, 03:57 PM
Pretty much

steveyhustle
03-30-2008, 04:01 PM
just fyi his name is LAX916 :) not 619.

bumpin buick
03-30-2008, 04:01 PM
would a paypal fraud claim do me any good?

steveyhustle
03-30-2008, 04:03 PM
paypal ***** man cuz basically as long as he shipped a package and u recieved it they dont do nothin. maybe u can try to fight the charge thruough ur actual bank thatd be your best bet.

bumpin buick
03-30-2008, 04:06 PM
Thats going to be hard when im 2 hours from my bank. : (

Looks like I will be having chris at DB-R repair it but Im hoping LAX will chime in and help me cover it but with what oldschool4me said, looks like im kinda ****ed

revrider1
03-30-2008, 04:09 PM
Good Luck man, I feel for ya. Id be makin a visit to a guy who got me for that kinda money...

steveyhustle
03-30-2008, 04:09 PM
ya well u can call and try to do it over the phone wit ur bank. never kno can try callin paypal try to get a reverse payment. but ya unless LAX chimes in and is willin to pay repair fee and u just pay shippin would be about fair. well lol let me edit this, FAIR would be him sendin a working amp lol so FAIR would be him paying for all shippin and repair fees but i gues anything will help.

oldschool4me
03-30-2008, 04:49 PM
i offered to pay for shipping one way and him one way and the cost of repair, db-r quated me 70 for the repair so lax agreed to pay me 90 bux. i gave him alot of time to pay me and he always had a reason for not sending the money and just did it to drag it on i think. i didnt make a thread because i didnt have many refs and he had alot more than i did so i figred it would fail. especially not understanding why one would want to ruin his name for a measly 90bux. now his name is about to be tarnished. wonder how many other sites he is on? he uses the same name on aim as here so i bet the same goes for other sites.

bad @SS chevy
03-30-2008, 04:51 PM
that ***** guys.

oldschool4me
03-30-2008, 04:56 PM
i wasnt putting him in my refs til he got this taken care of and he has me on his and left me feedback too. why would he put me on his refs if he didnt take care of this problem? i dont get that.

oldschool4me
03-30-2008, 04:57 PM
just fyi his name is LAX916 :) not 619.

yep

bumpin buick
03-30-2008, 08:58 PM
DB-r quoted me 250-400 just for the repair. So it could be possibly $500 to ship it there, have them repair it, and ship it back. They said the reason its so much is cause RF uses expenses parts. Well **** now I feel like I should have bought a cheaper shitier amp, atleast it would have been cheaper to repair.

DB_DRAG_SPL
03-30-2008, 08:59 PM
****...

steveyhustle
03-30-2008, 09:00 PM
****! thats about howmuch u paid for the amp! if i was u id try to get a reverse on that payment or somthin cuz thats some b$ and u kno he aint gon pay for it if he hasnt paid for other guys.

bumpin buick
03-30-2008, 10:20 PM
no response from LAX?

revrider1
03-30-2008, 10:21 PM
Dammit

steveyhustle
03-30-2008, 10:22 PM
ya this blows

oldschool4me
03-30-2008, 10:25 PM
yea i cant see you getting 500 if i cant get 90. this kinda stuff sickens me. hope he gets his shhhhhh right and pays us our $$$$.

pioneerpimp
03-30-2008, 10:28 PM
lax is not a good business man nor person. he is the newer version of teamsubgopoof. he never responds at all. i contacted some of his friends once. keep on it and call his local police if need be.

revrider1
03-30-2008, 10:31 PM
Uh oh, hes here

bad @SS chevy
03-30-2008, 10:34 PM
x2 aim

lostsuspect21
03-30-2008, 10:35 PM
lol^

Lax916
03-30-2008, 10:35 PM
sorry guys i have not been around the forums for quite a few weeks, me and bumpin buick will get this resolved. i had this amp working perfectly fine in my truck before it shipped. I have numerous of people who say and heard the amp while i had it.

oh and oldschool4me i thought i sent the partial refund to you quite a few weeks ago, we have to talk and see what happened. i have been on this forum for a long time and done many transactions, i have never scammed nobody. I have been scammed a few times.

steveyhustle
03-30-2008, 10:39 PM
just refund his money and call it a day.

oldschool4me
03-30-2008, 10:45 PM
sorry guys i have not been around the forums for quite a few weeks, me and bumpin buick will get this resolved. i had this amp working perfectly fine in my truck before it shipped. I have numerous of people who say and heard the amp while i had it.

oh and oldschool4me i thought i sent the partial refund to you quite a few weeks ago, we have to talk and see what happened. i have been on this forum for a long time and done many transactions, i have never scammed nobody. I have been scammed a few times.

no, i never got anything bro. first it was u didnt have enuff in paypal and you had to go to your bank and put money in, then it was you said u had paypal issues and that you was going to get that strait first. this was over a month ago. when i see you on aim i send you messages but dont get no reply. let me know if you can take care of it now, i would appreciate it greatly.

bumpin buick
03-30-2008, 10:47 PM
Me and LAX are talking on aim, and hopefully resolving the issues.

steveyhustle
03-30-2008, 10:48 PM
seems to be usin same excuse "thought i sent it to you" lol.. jeez i wish i lived near him :(

IgnoreMe
03-30-2008, 10:49 PM
just refund his money and call it a day.

you must be crazy if you think i would refund someone a couple hundred bucks if i sent out a working amp and he got it dead.

this is assuming lax sent a working amp AND packaged it correctly.

steveyhustle
03-30-2008, 10:52 PM
you must be crazy if you think i would refund someone a couple hundred bucks if i sent out a working amp and he got it dead.

this is assuming lax sent a working amp AND packaged it correctly.

ya ASSUMING but seeing as tho he did the same to sum1 else if u noticed i highly doubt it was sent out working. so thats why i say jus refund and give him his amp back but thats myopinion cuz obviously he aint gon pay 500 in repairs if cant pay other guy 90 dollars lets get real here.

Grinder1989
03-30-2008, 10:52 PM
I'm amazed how people on here and allowed to sell on this site with no business ethics. Is it that hard to ship someone's item back because you can't afford it or properly package an item or even sell the item as it is listed? I never seemed to have a problem doing that.....christ and I'm only 18. That's pretty ****ing sad.

MikeyB
03-30-2008, 10:53 PM
Ouch, I hope for the both of you that it gets resolved.

revrider1
03-30-2008, 10:55 PM
Being it happened before, I feel its bad on him. Just my thought though...

bumpin buick
03-30-2008, 10:56 PM
It was shipped, packaged, and insured via UPS.

steveyhustle
03-30-2008, 10:57 PM
bumpin said it was packaged very good to the point of even if you dropped a bowlin ball on it it wouldnt hurt it, so it was packaged very good and since bumpin's got it - its jus been sittin in his room at home since hes in college, and now seeing he did this to someone else cmon its not hard to figure out it was dead when shipped. which is why i say just refund money or pay for the full repairs but well see i guess..

Lax916
03-30-2008, 10:59 PM
the amp was working perfectly fine when shipped, i have alot of people who can say it was working and saw it working, The amp was packaged by ups and it had a 800 dollar insurance on it. This will get resolved, This is the kind of stuff that can happen when sell and buy stuff online, Like i said i have been scammed on this forum before and it *****. But me and Bumpin Buick will get this resolved

IgnoreMe
03-30-2008, 10:59 PM
It was shipped, packaged, and insured via UPS.

if it was packaged by UPS, a claim with them should be easy to recover i would think.

IgnoreMe
03-30-2008, 11:00 PM
bumpin said it was packaged very good to the point of even if you dropped a bowlin ball on it it wouldnt hurt it, so it was packaged very good and since bumpin's got it - its jus been sittin in his room at home since hes in college, and now seeing he did this to someone else cmon its not hard to figure out it was dead when shipped. which is why i say just refund money or pay for the full repairs but well see i guess..

and what if the packaging guy at the UPS station dropped it before packaging it? like you said, lets get real. neither me, nor you, know what happened.

steveyhustle
03-30-2008, 11:00 PM
its been like 4months since hes got it so doubt they wil still cover it.

steveyhustle
03-30-2008, 11:01 PM
and what if the packaging guy at the UPS station dropped it before packaging it? like you said, lets get real. neither me, nor you, know what happened.

well than lax woulda seen wouldnt he? they usually package right there in front of you well atleast the times ive did it.

oldschool4me
03-30-2008, 11:02 PM
mine was packaged good too. mine had a fried power supply. hope we get these issues resolved.

revrider1
03-30-2008, 11:02 PM
Yep, it sat for a while. Yes UPS does do that packin in front of you...

IgnoreMe
03-30-2008, 11:03 PM
its been like 4months since hes got it so doubt they wil still cover it.

well why was it not tested when it was recieved? even if he was at school or whatever, it shouldnt be too hard to walk someone else through testing it or having them take it to a car audio shop to get it tested.

steveyhustle
03-30-2008, 11:05 PM
ya its common sense dont take a idiot to realize it was sent as a dead amp, especially oldschools cmon it was fried lol. i wan see someone argue that one jeez.

revrider1
03-30-2008, 11:06 PM
yeah, Oldschool has had alot of patience with the guy. I know that for a fact....

MikeyB
03-30-2008, 11:07 PM
if it was packaged by UPS, a claim with them should be easy to recover i would think.

x2 but if the packaging wasnt damaged then Im not too sure

steveyhustle
03-30-2008, 11:07 PM
ya, Lax jus got tired of gettin scammed and turned into the scammer im guessin ;\ but like oldskoo said LAX would reply on aim for the weeks than started ignorin him and now just ignores him, lets see if he does same wit bumpin

oldschool4me
03-30-2008, 11:10 PM
lax got me on aim said i will send me pp money no later than tomorrow.

Lax916
03-30-2008, 11:10 PM
yea i got oldschools amp as a trade, i powered it it in my truck to see if it worked it did not go into protect the green light went on so i assumed it was fine i traded here on ca.com as being in working order. when he got it he opened it up and it had a friend power supply. Thats fine he showed me the pics. i did not use it personally so i will pay for it to get fixed. Now with this amp i used it for a few months, i took it out of my truck minuted before UPS packed it now it going into protect. Thats why im sure it was not dead when shipped

revrider1
03-30-2008, 11:10 PM
lax got me on aim said i will send me pp money no later than tomorrow.:cool:

Lax916
03-30-2008, 11:11 PM
I thought i sent oldschool the money weeks ago. I have not been on the forum or on AIM for a few weeks thats why i had no idea he did not recieve the paypal

IgnoreMe
03-30-2008, 11:14 PM
ya its common sense dont take a idiot to realize it was sent as a dead amp, especially oldschools cmon it was fried lol. i wan see someone argue that one jeez.

you dont know plain and simple. i had a mbquart raa2400 on the back of my seat. no system, just the amp attached to a cloth seat. it stopped working after hitting a pot hole in the road. a pot hole in the road isnt gonna give a bone jarring hit to an amp attached to a cloth seat through the cars suspension, yet, it still broke my amp and i had to send it to get repaired......

im not gonna argue oldschools amp wasnt fried. i havent even paid attention to it. if bumpin buick opens it up and its fried, i will call LAX a scammer.

the truth is, i DO believe it was damaged before shipment assuming the circumstances. but i will keep it to myself and not call him a scammer until i see that this situtation did not resolve itself and hes not willing to work on it.

steveyhustle
03-30-2008, 11:18 PM
wel ya i DO believe it was to and just like u hope it resolves thats all im hopin for since bumpin is a good friend but im jus sayin from oldschoo sayin its been 3months and never got 90bucks? and LAx sayin "i thought i sent it to you" its like cmon YOU KNOW if you sent someone money or not lol. but ya lets hope for the best i gues ill keep my mouth closed bout callin him a scammer until it resolves

Lax916
03-30-2008, 11:21 PM
i know i sent oldschool his money but for some reason he id not recieve it. I have been on Ca.com for over 2 years i have sold many thing never had a problem where i did not back up anything i sold.

oldschool4me
03-30-2008, 11:22 PM
thats what i told lax, i said for him to have bumpin buick open it up and check for bad components because i just recently got bought an amp off a guy and it was sold working and got it and it didnt so i opened it up and saw that there was no visible signs of bad components, so come to find there was a broken solder which more than likely happend in shipping and the amp is now fine by the way.... so open it up bumpin buick n see whatcha got.

steveyhustle
03-30-2008, 11:28 PM
well LAX actions speak louder than words and so far u havnt resolved a problem that happaned 3months ago so handle your business

bumpin buick
03-31-2008, 01:29 PM
so far my quotes look to be
RF flat rate$549
DB-r $250-400

bumpin buick
03-31-2008, 09:41 PM
hopefully he will be on soon enough and help me take care of this

bumpin buick
04-01-2008, 02:19 AM
Well LAX said he will contact UPS to see if they will do anything. They packaged and insured the amp and LAX said it was working when he shipped it. I have dealed with UPS before and I don't really see them covering internal damages to an amp but he said he wanted to give this a try first. If they dont cover then we will be back to the repair options, hopefully he will have an answer for me in the next day or two.

bumpin buick
04-01-2008, 02:22 AM
till then it sits like this

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc256/usask8er1/IMG_3236.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc256/usask8er1/IMG_3228.jpg

revrider1
04-01-2008, 02:23 AM
Its hard to claim with UPS, kinda *****. I never won anything outta them. I just leared to swallow it after the first 2 times. I quit shipping boxes cause of UPS and DHL...

Good Luck man, I wish the best for ya

oldschool4me
04-01-2008, 05:54 AM
still waiting

steveyhustle
04-01-2008, 01:51 PM
jeez oldschool u still havnt got ur 90bux?

bumpin buick
04-01-2008, 02:00 PM
I really hope he just does the right thing

revrider1
04-01-2008, 02:01 PM
still waiting:crap:

steveyhustle
04-01-2008, 02:08 PM
lets start thinkin bout who lives in FL ;) ..haha

2002XLT
04-01-2008, 04:26 PM
thats what i told lax, i said for him to have bumpin buick open it up and check for bad components because i just recently got bought an amp off a guy and it was sold working and got it and it didnt so i opened it up and saw that there was no visible signs of bad components, so come to find there was a broken solder which more than likely happend in shipping and the amp is now fine by the way.... so open it up bumpin buick n see whatcha got.

Glad that was all it was. Sorry about all that, and sorry you guys are going through this. Hope everything gets taken care of and bumpin have you opened it up yet?



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bumpin buick
04-01-2008, 04:42 PM
I have tried to open it and have taken all the back screws off to see if there was visable damage but I could not get it opened.

bumpin buick
04-01-2008, 04:44 PM
lax any news for me yet?

steveyhustle
04-01-2008, 05:17 PM
ya wats the update LAX i see u in the thread:)

bumpin buick
04-01-2008, 05:50 PM
no words from LAX yet

MikeyB
04-01-2008, 05:52 PM
:(

steveyhustle
04-01-2008, 05:57 PM
ya this doesnt look good.. let the ignorin begin :( just like he did to oldschool was talkin to him at first than slowly ignored him.

oldschool4me
04-01-2008, 06:04 PM
got the money today. i hope you get yours resolved too bumpin buick.

steveyhustle
04-01-2008, 06:06 PM
got the money today. i hope you get yours resolved too bumpin buick.

congrats!!!!!!! WOOT lol took 3 months but glad u got ur money man :)

MikeyB
04-01-2008, 06:07 PM
Theres hope!

bumpin buick
04-01-2008, 06:31 PM
I honestly don't think LAX is a scammer. I just wish this could get resolved sooner than later, honestly if I have to wait 3 months I will end up buying a amp in the mean time.

oldschool4me
04-01-2008, 06:41 PM
congrats!!!!!!! WOOT lol took 3 months but glad u got ur money man :)

thanks bro. he actually sent 100 to cover pp fees.

2002XLT
04-01-2008, 06:48 PM
Thats good to hear.

steveyhustle
04-01-2008, 06:52 PM
very nice, now COME ON LAX SEND BUMPIN HIS 400BUX FOR REPAIRS! and ur good again in everyones book:) well in my book atleast i wont speak for everyone:)

jeeper07
04-01-2008, 06:54 PM
bump

bumpin buick
04-01-2008, 07:01 PM
very nice, now COME ON LAX SEND BUMPIN HIS 400BUX FOR REPAIRS! and ur good again in everyones book:) well in my book atleast i wont speak for everyone:)

I dont plan on this being a $400 repair, atleast I hope its not I was going to send the amp in and have him just cover the bill, I pay shipping. Assuming UPS wont do jack about this situation

MikeyB
04-01-2008, 07:03 PM
^^^Thats a good idea and seems far for both sides imo

steveyhustle
04-01-2008, 07:08 PM
ya thats fair. but im jus guessin 400 for the quotes u got seems bout in between but ya thats really fair. hope hes willin to do that :)

Lax916
04-01-2008, 07:29 PM
sorry for the inconvenience oldschool if i would have known you would of gotten the money a long time ago, and yea me and buick will straight this out, i just want to give ups a try first. thanks buick for knowing i am not a scammer i just got unlucky that such an expensive amp was damaged inbetween the time it left my hands and before bumpin used it.

steveyhustle
04-01-2008, 07:38 PM
glad to see ur dealin wit these situations. hopefully bumpins is settled quik i kno hes anxious to hookup his system.

steveyhustle
04-01-2008, 07:40 PM
:)

bumpin buick
04-01-2008, 09:06 PM
thanks guys, me and LAX will be talking tonight when he gets back on and hopefully we can get something figured out.

MikeyB
04-01-2008, 10:15 PM
sorry for the inconvenience oldschool if i would have known you would of gotten the money a long time ago, and yea me and buick will straight this out, i just want to give ups a try first. thanks buick for knowing i am not a scammer i just got unlucky that such an expensive amp was damaged inbetween the time it left my hands and before bumpin used it.

Nice! Seems like your doing everything you can, +1 for jooozzz!!! :D

AudioFonicz
04-02-2008, 04:05 AM
bumpin: hope all goes well for you bro. clean install and good luck.


ya ASSUMING but seeing as tho he did the same to sum1 else if u noticed i highly doubt it was sent out working. so thats why i say jus refund and give him his amp back but thats myopinion cuz obviously he aint gon pay 500 in repairs if cant pay other guy 90 dollars lets get real here.


bumpin said it was packaged very good to the point of even if you dropped a bowlin ball on it it wouldnt hurt it, so it was packaged very good and since bumpin's got it - its jus been sittin in his room at home since hes in college, and now seeing he did this to someone else cmon its not hard to figure out it was dead when shipped. which is why i say just refund money or pay for the full repairs but well see i guess..


****! thats about howmuch u paid for the amp! if i was u id try to get a reverse on that payment or somthin cuz thats some b$ and u kno he aint gon pay for it if he hasnt paid for other guys.


ya this blows


just refund his money and call it a day.


seems to be usin same excuse "thought i sent it to you" lol.. jeez i wish i lived near him :(


well than lax woulda seen wouldnt he? they usually package right there in front of you well atleast the times ive did it.


well LAX actions speak louder than words and so far u havnt resolved a problem that happaned 3months ago so handle your business


lets start thinkin bout who lives in FL ;) ..haha


ya this doesnt look good.. let the ignorin begin :( just like he did to oldschool was talkin to him at first than slowly ignored him.

***** who the **** are you?

bumpin buick
04-02-2008, 11:47 AM
bumpin: hope all goes well for you bro. clean install and good luck.
***** who the **** are you?

Steveyhustle is a buddy of mine, so he knows the situation much better than most people.

dleccord
04-02-2008, 01:16 PM
ahh, my apologies then.

bumpin buick
04-02-2008, 02:56 PM
I would have been like who the hell is this dude too. lol


well hopefully LAX gets at me today cuase I was hoping to have this all figured out by last night and he never got back to me

steveyhustle
04-02-2008, 03:00 PM
yaaaaa lets get this **** handleddd! :)

bumpin buick
04-14-2008, 02:01 AM
Amp is in shop for repair and LAX has agreed to pay. I will update everyone when its all done. Thanks

revrider1
04-14-2008, 02:03 AM
cool