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galacticmonkey
03-20-2008, 03:41 PM
Well, they started red and clear... Now theyre black. Looks alot better than the pics show. Just gotta wait a couple hours and clear coat them now. Heres the up to the second layer. I did 3 all together.



I also did my 3rd taillight thats way up top, I just didnt take any pics of it. What do ya think?



Ill have pics when its all said and done and installed.



http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/254755843_857933470_0.jpg



http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/254761884_857955084_0.jpg



http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/254765750_857968814_0.jpg

SethPhillips
03-20-2008, 03:42 PM
i need to do mine.. and my front turn signals...

2002XLT
03-20-2008, 03:46 PM
seth i woudlnt do your fronts, any bugs/rocks/flying sht will chip them off and they will look like sht, if you search google there should be a way to bake them and paint them from the inside, ive seen it done on some explorers, just depends on how your casings are.

i need to redo mine with some clearcoat...they are looking faded.

galacticmonkey
03-20-2008, 03:46 PM
I want to get clear front turn signals... Mine are like 1' long and yellow.

Theres a ton of visual mods I wanna do to my van. I wanna get rims, a new grill, replace all the plastic cheap trim, lower it, etc.

azbass
03-20-2008, 03:46 PM
neat

MikeyB
03-20-2008, 03:47 PM
Get finished pics Ill be doing this also sometime soon for a buddies car, where'd you buy the coating from?

wu501
03-20-2008, 03:47 PM
wet sand in between coats and them give them a good polish job when your done...otherwise they wont look glossy.

wu501
03-20-2008, 03:47 PM
also..I have a brand new can of nightshades I never used if anyone is interested.

galacticmonkey
03-20-2008, 03:49 PM
http://www.cacustomcoatings.com/vhtniteshades.html

Thats where I bought mine from.

PSturmer
03-20-2008, 04:04 PM
need more coats to make it darker

spl guru
03-20-2008, 04:07 PM
Hmmm, im interested!!

Get thise final pics asap good sir!!

Looks nice!

05F150SuperCrew
03-20-2008, 04:16 PM
seth i woudlnt do your fronts, any bugs/rocks/flying sht will chip them off and they will look like sht, if you search google there should be a way to bake them and paint them from the inside, ive seen it done on some explorers, just depends on how your casings are.

i need to redo mine with some clearcoat...they are looking faded.

sand them down w/ a very fine grit sp and polish them w/ plastic polish that has some type of uv protectant. that way they wouln't yellow... did it on my lincoln, came out really nice.

galacticmonkey
03-20-2008, 04:17 PM
It has more on it... A whole other coat or two. Theyre really dark.

So should I wait for it to dry, wet sand with a really finy paper then clear? Or should I just clear them? Or even bother with any of that?

SPY
03-20-2008, 05:08 PM
http://www.cacustomcoatings.com/vhtniteshades.html

Thats where I bought mine from.


Cheaper at summit racing

http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?Ntt=tint&N=700+115+400335&Ntk=KeywordSearch

MikeyB
03-20-2008, 05:57 PM
It has more on it... A whole other coat or two. Theyre really dark.

So should I wait for it to dry, wet sand with a really finy paper then clear? Or should I just clear them? Or even bother with any of that?

Definately clear them, as long as you laid out the coating evenly and theres no runs I dont see a reason to wet sand. Even you change your mind after you clear it you can wet sand the clear a little and polish them up.

Personally I would clean em, spray em, clear em, polish em, done :)

galacticmonkey
03-20-2008, 05:58 PM
Well theyre already done being sprayed with the Niteshades... Now I think Ill just clear them maybe and leave them.... Maybe polish them a little.

MikeyB
03-20-2008, 05:59 PM
Well theyre already done being sprayed with the Niteshades... Now I think Ill just clear them maybe and leave them.... Maybe polish them a little.

x2, only need to polish them if they arent shiny enough for you, definately clear them though, it will protect that coating from uv damage and keep em lookin good.

galacticmonkey
03-20-2008, 06:01 PM
Yeah, Ill just wait until theyre completely dry to see if Im going to polish or not.

So I polish after clear? Or before?

MikeyB
03-20-2008, 06:41 PM
Yeah, Ill just wait until theyre completely dry to see if Im going to polish or not.

So I polish after clear? Or before?

After, just clear them after they tack up from the coating

galacticmonkey
03-20-2008, 08:06 PM
Well I did a quick test fit to see how they looked. I like em.

Then took them off and they are waiting for the 1st coat of clear to dry for a few before I do another.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/254861078_858309989_0.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/galamonkey/254866087_858327280_0.jpg

spl guru
03-20-2008, 08:10 PM
Looks great!

Got a can on the way, thanks!

fbi90909
03-20-2008, 08:14 PM
add clear coat either tomorrow or 6-8 hours after the last coat of night shades.
allow clear to dry 6-12 hours before any sanding/buffing.
add LOTS AND LOTS of clear coat. at least 1 can per light, cause when you start wet sanding it can sand quick while trying to remove orange peel and you could end up sanding off the tint. in which you would have to redo everything.

galacticmonkey
03-20-2008, 08:22 PM
Not going to sand... Just clear coat them. Maybe polish them down the road.

fbi90909
03-20-2008, 08:22 PM
if you get orange peel, you will need to sand them.

galacticmonkey
03-20-2008, 08:23 PM
Orange peel?

fbi90909
03-20-2008, 08:28 PM
lawl.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_peel_(paint)

basically after your clear coat dries. take a very close look. if you see tons and tons of little dimples or such where the surface isn't smooth like glass. it will need wet sanding. then buffing. then polishing.

galacticmonkey
03-20-2008, 08:31 PM
Alright then. What grit should I use? And dry or wet sanding?

Also, whats a good plastic polish to use for this?

PSturmer
03-20-2008, 08:37 PM
It has more on it... A whole other coat or two. Theyre really dark.

So should I wait for it to dry, wet sand with a really finy paper then clear? Or should I just clear them? Or even bother with any of that?

friend used the same stuff. he just left it how it was. prepping it and spraying it on carefully seemed good enough. and his look **** good.

galacticmonkey
03-20-2008, 08:38 PM
Yeah, I washed them and dried them before I applied any paint to them...

So whats a good polish at Autozone or AAP?

fbi90909
03-20-2008, 08:41 PM
when i did mine i began wetsanding with 1500grit, then up to 200grit. have a spray bottle with a soap+water solution. spray as you sand to wash off particle. dry here and there and take a good look at the smoothness. after you get all dimples out you can begin with buffing with a medium cut rubbing compound do this very well for a good amount of time. not just 3 minutes. after then use a Fine cut rubbing compound. again take your time as this step should be repeated a few times. let the compound work it's way in. after then use a gloss polishing compound. buff for a long period of time then wipe down.
only use micro fiber towels when wiping the lights down at any point.

patience is key. take your time.

galacticmonkey
03-20-2008, 08:50 PM
Well I guess Im just going to clear the hell out of them all right now. Every 10 mins I go back outside for another coat. :crazy:

MikeyB
03-21-2008, 12:22 AM
add clear coat either tomorrow or 6-8 hours after the last coat of night shades.
allow clear to dry 6-12 hours before any sanding/buffing.
add LOTS AND LOTS of clear coat. at least 1 can per light, cause when you start wet sanding it can sand quick while trying to remove orange peel and you could end up sanding off the tint. in which you would have to redo everything.

Not sure if this coating is applied different from how I have been taught to spray automotive paint but I have always cleared after the basecoat has tacked to get better adhesion rather than letting the basecoat full cure.


when i did mine i began wetsanding with 1500grit, then up to 2000grit. have a spray bottle with a soap+water solution. spray as you sand to wash off particle. dry here and there and take a good look at the smoothness. after you get all dimples out you can begin with buffing with a medium cut rubbing compound do this very well for a good amount of time. not just 3 minutes. after then use a Fine cut rubbing compound. again take your time as this step should be repeated a few times. let the compound work it's way in. after then use a gloss polishing compound. buff for a long period of time then wipe down.
only use micro fiber towels when wiping the lights down at any point.

patience is key. take your time.

Agreed, and fixed ;)

mazzasec
03-21-2008, 12:39 AM
anybody live in Ga? I need my headlights smoked

galacticmonkey
03-21-2008, 01:55 AM
Well I wetsanded them with 2000 grit paper and soap and water... They look good and are really smooth just they have a little white haze on em. Alot of it is from soap that is left as residue (wiped off all I could) but I think some is from the clearcoat.

Will it come out when I buff and polish them? Whats a good stuff to polish them with?

lil_italy773
03-21-2008, 01:59 AM
great look g-monk..gives me a idea lol

fbi90909
03-21-2008, 09:12 AM
Well I wetsanded them with 2000 grit paper and soap and water... They look good and are really smooth just they have a little white haze on em. Alot of it is from soap that is left as residue (wiped off all I could) but I think some is from the clearcoat.

Will it come out when I buff and polish them? Whats a good stuff to polish them with?

lawl, should have mentioned to allow the clear coat to cure for 6-8 hours.
take a pic of what this haze you are looking at is. it could be just the clear as it's sanded.
as for buffing compound you could look at meguars(sp?).

SHiZNiLTi
03-21-2008, 12:50 PM
Cool Monkey, Smoked tailights look ******!

I don't do any wetsanding when using VHT nightshades, nor do I use clear coat...

I get as close as I can to the point where it's ALMOST about to run. I do about 3-4 thick coats.

If you spray it too far away the finish doesnt look glossy, it's almost a type of matte finish.

IMO it's all about the technique you use when spraying it on.

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7192/picture023xi8.jpg

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1260/picture021ty4.jpg


For the headlights I didn't want it as dark, but as you can see since it wasn't sprayed on thick it doesn't have the same glossy shine that the tailights do, but it's still pretty sick looking...

If your gonna smoke your headlights make sure you have some HID's installed because it definatly cuts down on light output. With my smoked headlights and tinted front windshield it was kinda hard to see at night.

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/2605/smokedlight2iv2.jpg

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/1281/smokedlight3kv9.jpg

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/4756/smokedlight4no5.jpg


With both my headlights and tailights I used a 3M buffing compound paste to buff them very lightly.

After that I used some Meguiar's Gold Class to polish/shine them.

MikeyB
03-21-2008, 03:30 PM
When spraying almost any material you want to use the same basic techniques everytime. Each pass (for "most" materials) you should be looking for a %50 overlap, with some metallics and pearls %75 overlap is required. You want to plan your passes and be sure not to hit any area more than another, and you want to spray all jams first leaving the most visible surfaces for the final passes. With these techniques you spray coat by coat until your level of coverage is reached.

And I assumed to clearcoat since I dont recall seeing anywhere that this VHT stuff has any UV protection. If it does however than clear is not necessary but if not then I would definately do it or else its going to fade......

chinxtaboi
03-25-2008, 05:08 AM
ive smoked both my headlights and taillights, but havent polished them, what you yall use to polish?

i smoked my headlights, and then when i needed a inspection sticker, i had to get all the shade and clear coat off. ******.

Talamant3z
03-26-2008, 11:21 PM
http://i28.tinypic.com/nyy0c0.jpg
http://i28.tinypic.com/2u7negw.jpg
http://i30.tinypic.com/6zyb6f.jpg

i did mine too i need to do the side lights :)