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mk_
03-16-2008, 12:00 AM
I'm interested in one of these for an active setup. Just looking for opinions on which I should go with. The 9887 looks like I would be able to get for ~$300 new, 880 for ~$250 new, and I haven't looked at 800 prices.

I would consider the 880 if it really is the better deck, I just don't know if I want to fool with pioneer grounding issues. What do you think?



Thanks in advance
Michael

tcguy85
03-16-2008, 01:09 AM
880 all the way! i love mine!

flakko
03-16-2008, 03:01 AM
i picked the 9887 cuz of the ipod controls and it had no noise problems. also wanted to try the imprint out. i would have gotten the 800 but it wasnt out yet.

MBrock4u
03-16-2008, 05:54 AM
Both are very nice decks. The 9887 looks spectacular, especially at night. The 880prs has amazing tweeking ability. Of course the Alpine holds its own in that department too. Another option for you, you can look at getting the Excelon X-990. it does it all, and looks super. Thats what I went with. I don't think you could go wrong with any of these choices.

Macklessdaddy
03-16-2008, 03:02 PM
Both are very nice decks. The 9887 looks spectacular, especially at night. The 880prs has amazing tweeking ability. Of course the Alpine holds its own in that department too. Another option for you, you can look at getting the Excelon X-990. it does it all, and looks super. Thats what I went with. I don't think you could go wrong with any of these choices.

The o.p wants an active capable deck and the x990 is not the answer or any other kenwood Hu

MBrock4u
03-16-2008, 03:28 PM
How do you figure? I run mine active!

freakish07
03-16-2008, 03:32 PM
880!

Macklessdaddy
03-16-2008, 04:07 PM
How do you figure? I run mine active!

I wasnt aware that the x990 had 3 way xovers,maybe they made YOURS different

Macklessdaddy
03-16-2008, 04:10 PM
How do you figure? I run mine active!

Just curious,what does your active setup consists of?

jrwalte
03-17-2008, 11:01 AM
If you choose Pioneer, no point in getting the 800PRS unless you want bluetooth or HD capability. Spec wise they look exactly the same. Their R&D team didn't do much for this unit :)

The only thing I could say differently is the 800PRS seems to have a better built-in amp. When I had my 800 installed (Yes, I have one. My insurance company got a hold of one when the faceplate of my 880 was stolen last month), the rear speakers (which I temporarily run off the head unit when people are in the rear seats) sounded better on the 800 as on the 880. But that could also just be the fact that I was without music for 2 weeks.

mk_
03-17-2008, 11:38 PM
Good info guys, Thanks.


I have no use for the additional features the 800 offers over the 880. I honestly was expecting more Alpine guys to chime in backing up the 9887. I'm sure its a great unit, and was HIGHLY considering it, but i can't see spending a considerable amount more for something that does practically the same as the p880prs.

jco1385
03-20-2008, 01:33 PM
so if i buy any of the above mentioned units, namely 880 or 9887, i wouldnt need an active x-over or EQ? sorry for the newb question

nismos14
03-20-2008, 05:05 PM
x990 does NOT go active. It has high and low pass xovers, but no bandpass.

9887 > 880 because of noise issue, otherwise they are = in my opinion.

aeon
03-20-2008, 07:19 PM
i picked the 9887 cuz of the ipod controls and it had no noise problems. also wanted to try the imprint out. i would have gotten the 800 but it wasnt out yet.

i have a hissing issue when i have my ipod connected.

XxSuperAdamxX
03-20-2008, 07:24 PM
880 baby!!!

XxSuperAdamxX
03-20-2008, 07:25 PM
x990 does NOT go active. It has high and low pass xovers, but no bandpass.

9887 > 880 because of noise issue, otherwise they are = in my opinion.

to tell you the truth...I haven't had ANY issues with the 880 yet!!! that's why i Love it.

XxSuperAdamxX
03-20-2008, 07:26 PM
the 80 had a little issue, 8600 minor also. 7800 for some reason had a huge issue with rca whine noise.

nismos14
03-20-2008, 07:30 PM
Que? Meaning in general? Or ones you owned?

8600 and 880 have rampant issues with it.

tcguy85
03-20-2008, 09:42 PM
no issues with my 880, i love it!

ashtrey1212
03-21-2008, 03:34 PM
Dude, I'm all about the Alpine, of course I'm not to familliar with the other options. But I've had my 9887 for a little over a month right now, and aside form it not being able to display the time while the unit turned off, I have no regrets. Especially if you have a serious system in your ride the 9887 will let you bend and twist it every wich way you want. It's a pretty jammed up head unit.

tsenfw
03-21-2008, 04:08 PM
Quick question about the 9887, might be in the market for one.

How's the ipod control? Fast? How about usb drives? Does it browse them well? Easy to navigate the files?

My x791 is awesome in that respect but I need the active capabilities of the 9887 and I always wanted to try an Alpine deck.

Are the ranges of the bandpass and the HPF's broad?

nismos14
03-21-2008, 04:13 PM
9887 does not have usb built in, the ipod on alpine is regarded as one of the best.

It also has one of the best active settings, you can cross the mid as low as 200 hz hp and it can be lp'ed as low as 35 hz.

tsenfw
03-21-2008, 04:16 PM
No usb built in? Could you elaborate? The connector for the ipod, does it go from deck to usb to connector for ipod? Have you tried thumb drives or hard drives?

nismos14
03-21-2008, 04:35 PM
No usb built in? Could you elaborate? The connector for the ipod, does it go from deck to usb to connector for ipod? Have you tried thumb drives or hard drives?

I don't know how to elaborate on that? lol You have to buy a module to get a USB connection with it.

The ipod connector connects directly to an ipod wire on the back of the HU and is non usb. I don't have the ipod connector since i don't have an ipod, and I don't have the usb module.

ashtrey1212
03-24-2008, 12:38 PM
No usb built in? Could you elaborate? The connector for the ipod, does it go from deck to usb to connector for ipod? Have you tried thumb drives or hard drives?

Ther's no USB connection for anything on the 9887. It uses a cable called "Full Speed Connection". It works almost the same as a USB does and still charges the iPod as it plays.

viper0419
03-28-2008, 01:30 PM
I am also having a hard time choosing my upgrade to either a 9877 or 800/880.
The problem is everybody knows that 9877 is a great sounding unit with no noise problem plus great ipod control. However, it doesn't (just in my opinion) have the bells and whistles that 800/880 has. I don't know how to put it, but it just feel like you have bought a more premier unit with 800/880.
One reason for me might be I am currently using a 9857 and therefore many of the functions that 9877 has is also available on 9857 therefore nothing new to me.

Can anyone please tell me will there be a lot of difference when I change from 9857 to either 9877 to 800/880 in terms of Sound Quality?

Thanks.:D

nismos14
03-28-2008, 01:32 PM
What? 9857 does not run active, 9887 does, get your model numbers right :) 9887 will blow the doors off oru 9857.

880/800 have rampant noise issues that pioneer is too stupid to fix.

Read this thread thoroughly http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=266406

viper0419
03-28-2008, 01:55 PM
haha... okay 9887 sir.
but what if i am just running passive?
honestly, i am not as technically inclined as most people here.
i just want to know will i hear a lot of difference when i make the change?

nismos14
03-28-2008, 01:58 PM
Then a 800/880/9887 are pretty much not needed. What feature are you interested in?

viper0419
03-28-2008, 02:02 PM
i just want a unit that can give me the great sound quality.
not one that i have to tweak daily as i don't know how to.
i am impress that many says that the 9887 with imprint gives you a new dimension of sound - you can hear plucking of the string or beating of the drum.. etc.
but.... as said earlier, the blacks rs2 looks so sweet...

MikeyB
03-28-2008, 02:27 PM
I want a 9887 :(

IgnoreMe
03-28-2008, 03:46 PM
i have a hissing issue when i have my ipod connected.

i have a hissing noise when connected to my eclipse cd5000.

did a swap with a buddies ipod, and it turns out it was the ipod.

just because you got a hiss doesnt automatically make it the HU's fault ;)

nismos14
03-28-2008, 03:53 PM
I want a 9887 :(

Yes, yes you do.

jdc753
03-28-2008, 04:04 PM
I want a 9887 :(

I just want to get mine installed :crying:

nismos14
03-28-2008, 04:06 PM
Whiners.

MikeyB
03-28-2008, 05:21 PM
Someone give me another 150 dollars so I can buy one plz