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wschmidt22
03-05-2008, 10:49 AM
would it be worth the extra cash to go with the CDT CL-51A /CL-51A-25PRO's... or just go with the PG RSD's?

I need 5.25" for my stock door location.

Will be powering them with the Cadence TXA-3002

Anniku989
03-05-2008, 10:52 AM
I thought the RSD's were only 6.5"s, but I could easily be very wrong
I heard a set of RSD's, and they kick the crap outta my alpines, which I thought sounded good. I'd just save the cash and go with the rsd boner if I were you, but I've never heard/seen the CDT's though

dman4486
03-05-2008, 10:53 AM
rsd's can be purchased in 6.5, 6 and 5.25

djeazie
03-05-2008, 11:06 AM
After all Ive been reading the Rsd would be the way to go, for the price. I think I might buy a set myself.

LaserRed38
03-05-2008, 11:58 AM
I've heard the Classic series from CDT aren't that good. I'd just go with the RSDs.

Pl8er
03-05-2008, 12:00 PM
I've had both. Currently running the PG. The midbass on the RSD's are 10X that of the CDT. I like the CDT tweets better, but just marginally.

I say RSD hands down. Plus they can take more abuse.


EDIT: I should mention that I am running 6.5

wschmidt22
03-05-2008, 12:33 PM
sounds like the RSD's are they way to go.. 'preciate it

dftnz7
03-05-2008, 07:45 PM
Same exact thing I have been wondering, except I am kind of looking at the CDT EF-61FG, which are better than the classics.

tcguy85
03-05-2008, 07:49 PM
I've had both. Currently running the PG. The midbass on the RSD's are 10X that of the CDT. I like the CDT tweets better, but just marginally.

I say RSD hands down. Plus they can take more abuse.


EDIT: I should mention that I am running 6.5

they can take a TON of power! i'm using a DD S4 on my RSD's active and they take it just fine.... and of course sound good :)

dftnz7
03-06-2008, 12:54 AM
they can take a TON of power! i'm using a DD S4 on my RSD's active and they take it just fine.... and of course sound good :)

Take it from the official RSD cheerleader folks..... :D


You definitely are vocal about the products that you like....nothing wrong with that of course...

kidwolf909
03-06-2008, 12:56 AM
Take it from the official RSD cheerleader folks..... :D


You definitely are vocal about the products that you like....nothing wrong with that of course...

Haha, the "RSd cheerleader" is the one who convinced me to get them for my car. Thank god he did! I love my PG's :)

I'd recommended them to ANYONE for the cost! $87 is unbeatable!

SVT RELAMPAGO
03-06-2008, 01:16 AM
Haha, the "RSd cheerleader" is the one who convinced me to get them for my car. Thank god he did! I love my PG's :)

I'd recommended them to ANYONE for the cost! $87 is unbeatable!

is that $87 shipped???

tcguy85
03-06-2008, 01:27 AM
is that $87 shipped???

yes they can be found for $87 shipped, i had to pay tax to though since the seller i got them from was in NY.

kidwolf909
03-06-2008, 01:28 AM
is that $87 shipped???

Yessir. To your door for $87 :)

Best $87 I ever spent hehehe

tcguy85
03-06-2008, 01:30 AM
Take it from the official RSD cheerleader folks..... :D


You definitely are vocal about the products that you like....nothing wrong with that of course...

what else have i been so "vocal" about? lol

i just think for $87 they are amazing, especially amazing that they are surviving on an amp that can deliver 300+ watts a side to them active. rated at 60 watts rms for the set run passive but yet surviving 300 watts active for $87. what other set for $87 can do that?

noooorb
03-06-2008, 05:56 PM
I've had CDT CL-61A's before I got the RSDs, and I like the RSD's sooo much more. Really can't complain about these speakers.

dftnz7
03-07-2008, 12:17 AM
what else have i been so "vocal" about? lol


Don't even make me link the dozens of glowing references to your Dayton HO 10. :D


I wasn't being mean--just joking with you. In fact, I am going to order a set of these just pretty much based on your review thread on the CA forum.

tcguy85
03-07-2008, 12:31 AM
Don't even make me link the dozens of glowing references to your Dayton HO 10. :D


I wasn't being mean--just joking with you. In fact, I am going to order a set of these just pretty much based on your review thread on the CA forum.

well alrighty. i just am thrilled with both the rsd's and the dayton. both awesome for the prices. it's just great being able to get good stuff at good prices.

krisfnbz
03-07-2008, 05:31 PM
what else have i been so "vocal" about? lol

i just think for $87 they are amazing, especially amazing that they are surviving on an amp that can deliver 300+ watts a side to them active. rated at 60 watts rms for the set run passive but yet surviving 300 watts active for $87. what other set for $87 can do that?

You are sending these speakers 300 watts per door active?

Thats alot of fuvking power man. Are you serious?

budahbuddy803
03-07-2008, 05:35 PM
i have the cdts in my sig. Is it possible to buy rsd woofers and run those, my cdt tweets, and my cdt crossover?

krisfnbz
03-07-2008, 05:52 PM
i have the cdts in my sig. Is it possible to buy rsd woofers and run those, my cdt tweets, and my cdt crossover?

probably dont want to do that. The CDT speakers are nice budget speakers. I had them installed for a while and was very impressed.

budahbuddy803
03-07-2008, 05:54 PM
i have the woofers in boxes actually on my rear deck because i dont want to fiberglass in my car that i will be gettin rid of seen. The mid-bass is not too impressive. That would be the only reason i want to switch woofers.

Why is that a bad idea?

ProgMtl
03-07-2008, 06:02 PM
I had the CDT-CL62's and upgraded to the CDT ES-62i's...BIG difference in midbass...but also big difference in price

UCF52
03-07-2008, 06:39 PM
You are sending these speakers 300 watts per door active?

Thats alot of fuvking power man. Are you serious?

Doubt they're seeing that much (at least continuous)... that's how much power he has on tap.


Why is that a bad idea?

If you are referring to using the RSd mids with the CDT tweet and CDT crossover, then I wouldn't recommend it either; Unless you are certain about the passive crossover points working well with the RSd mid. At that point you might as well go active, IMO.

krisfnbz
03-07-2008, 08:02 PM
Doubt they're seeing that much (at least continuous)... that's how much power he has on tap.



If you are referring to using the RSd mids with the CDT tweet and CDT crossover, then I wouldn't recommend it either; Unless you are certain about the passive crossover points working well with the RSd mid. At that point you might as well go active, IMO.


exactly.

300 a door? Thats insane.

UCF52
03-07-2008, 09:35 PM
Yea, he has 100x2 and 200x2

tcguy85
03-07-2008, 11:01 PM
You are sending these speakers 300 watts per door active?

Thats alot of fuvking power man. Are you serious?

yes i have them on the DD S4 which can deliver up to 200 watts rms per mid, and 100 watts rms per tweeter. are they seeing that much RMS? no, i highly doubt it, but my clip light does flash a teeny tiny bit now and then, so that means that at least one channel is meeting the rail voltage for a split second at a time. they are taking it just fine and sound **** good and **** loud doin it.

duece212
03-07-2008, 11:04 PM
yes i have them on the DD S4 which can deliver up to 200 watts rms per mid, and 100 watts rms per tweeter. are they seeing that much RMS? no, i highly doubt it, but my clip light does flash a teeny tiny bit now and then, so that means that at least one channel is meeting the rail voltage for a split second at a time. they are taking it just fine and sound **** good and **** loud doin it.

What are they crossed at on the low end when that amount of power is going to them?

tcguy85
03-07-2008, 11:13 PM
mids are band passed from 80hz/12db to 2.5k/24db, then the tweets are at 4k/24db at the moment. when i had the mids on the zx550.2 i had them from 50hz/24db and up and they also were just fine and dandy. sounds a bit clearer at high volumes with them at 80/12db but at lower to moderate volumes they have no problem being crossed low. they actually have quite a bit of output below 80hz.

duece212
03-07-2008, 11:30 PM
mids are band passed from 80hz/12db to 2.5k/24db, then the tweets are at 4k/24db at the moment. when i had the mids on the zx550.2 i had them from 50hz/24db and up and they also were just fine and dandy. sounds a bit clearer at high volumes with them at 80/12db but at lower to moderate volumes they have no problem being crossed low. they actually have quite a bit of output below 80hz.

Thats quite a bit of power to cross at 50hz, thats cool those pg's will take that much power down low.

tcguy85
03-07-2008, 11:35 PM
Thats quite a bit of power to cross at 50hz, thats cool those pg's will take that much power down low.

yea, after taking some people advice and bumping my crossover up on both my sub and mids i feel much safer playing them louder, and they DO sound clearer and cleaner crossed higher. i think 63hz/24db, or 80hz/12db is safe for these on tons of power.

but i to, am truly shocked i have not destroyed these yet. a few months ago i had no idea they would be ok on this much power. i know it sounds kinda crazy that i have 300 watts a side on tap for speakers that are only rated at 60 watts a side that only cost $90, but they take it.

and when run active they can sound phenomenal.

James Bang
03-07-2008, 11:37 PM
i need to hear a set of these RSDs. I don't believe the hype.

tcguy85
03-07-2008, 11:41 PM
i need to hear a set of these RSDs. I don't believe the hype.

http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32945

pay attention to post 9, and read the link in post 12 as well. i'd gladly let ya hear mine but i'm in NY and you seem to be in cali.

James Bang
03-07-2008, 11:45 PM
Eh. I'll still have my doubts since I don't trust that review whatsoever. I won't even read the review because of the person who wrote it.

tcguy85
03-07-2008, 11:46 PM
Eh. I'll still have my doubts since I don't trust that review whatsoever. I won't even read the review because of the person who wrote it.

ok. thats cool. i and many others though, think they sound great.

UCF52
03-08-2008, 01:05 AM
ok. thats cool. i and many others though, think they sound great.

x2

mazzasec
03-08-2008, 01:09 AM
can they still be purchased new? i thought they were discontinued?

UCF52
03-08-2008, 01:15 AM
can they still be purchased new? i thought they were discontinued?

Still can be purchased new... click here (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PHOENIX-GOLD-6-5-240w-COMPONENT-CAR-SPEAKERS-RSD65CS_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ38646QQihZ020QQ itemZ300205072570QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW) - $87 shipped

sterlingsharp1
03-08-2008, 04:57 AM
Eh. I'll still have my doubts since I don't trust that review whatsoever. I won't even read the review because of the person who wrote it.

I can understand your reserve about the review and the person who wrote the review (I've pm'd him a couple of times and no reply) James, but honestly, fork over the $87 bucks for them. They are worth the price of admission:)