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bjfish11
03-04-2008, 11:22 PM
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/new/VinylBox001.jpg


VINYL!!!

Been wanting to give it a try for a long time. Well I finally stopped and picked some up today. I have done little to no research on how to apply, what type works best, adhesive type, etc. Basically, Im jumping in hoping I can use the same strategy as if I were carpeting it.

Well, for the first try, it didnt turn out too bad IMO. But it's definitely going to take some practice to get it looking perfect. Ill do a little searching now to see what other kind of info I can dig up. But Ideally, I'd like to keep to the same technique if at all possible.

If anyone knows some good tutorials, please let me know.... Comments? Criticism? Suggestions?


http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/new/VinylBox002.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/new/VinylBox003.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/new/VinylBox007.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/new/VinylBox008.jpg

And yes, Im aware the sticker is backwards. LOL. I had them all mirrored so they go on the back of the plexi, but wanted to see what it looked like on the vinyl. I think it looked pretty sweet.

Lakota
03-04-2008, 11:47 PM
What's wrong with it to make it not perfect?

Worlddre
03-04-2008, 11:52 PM
rounded corners are your friend...heat it up to get a little more stretch...I have personally had better luck using contact adhesive applied using an air spray gun. Extra panels to hide seams are your friend. Vinyl is less forgiving then carpet so you are not going to be able to get away with a seam in plain sight so you are most likely not going to be able to keep your same method but subtle changes for things are good thats how you learn new cool **** you can do

bjfish11
03-05-2008, 01:06 PM
rounded corners are your friend...heat it up to get a little more stretch...I have personally had better luck using contact adhesive applied using an air spray gun. Extra panels to hide seams are your friend. Vinyl is less forgiving then carpet so you are not going to be able to get away with a seam in plain sight so you are most likely not going to be able to keep your same method but subtle changes for things are good thats how you learn new cool **** you can do

Im definitely open to trying new methods. I think with a little tweaking, I can get my same method to work, for the most part. I think the vinyl I used, may have been too thin, and stretched a little more than I wanted. I might give it a second try with some thicker vinyl this weekend. I just thought of something I can do, that will help me out I think.

If you dont mind, what method do you use?

bones22
03-05-2008, 01:10 PM
looks d amn good for a 1st time

bjfish11
03-05-2008, 01:19 PM
It did turn out better than I was expecting to be honest. But its still quite a ways away from being good enough to offer it as an option.

LaserRed38
03-05-2008, 01:23 PM
Looks nice. Can't wait to see people start ordering it! On a side note, how backed up are you? I'm going to need a box soon, and I don't have the time/skill to make my own, and I have a very specific spot for my box. You think you can take a look at my thread in the Box section and see what we can come up with?
http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=296827

squid88
03-05-2008, 01:24 PM
I like it

jdc753
03-05-2008, 02:46 PM
certainly looks good for a first time, but I see what dre was sayin about the same method as carpet not really working, the seems are relatively easy to see, least compared to carpet. Does also look like a thicker vinyl might work though, maybe something with a slightly padded backing.

Also rounded edges definitely suit vinyl much better.

You should throw that box away though, its got a backwards sticker :p: Or you pay the shipping and I might be able to find a use for it. Just kidding of course, looks pretty good, and with some tweaking I bet you'll get it down pat.

bjfish11
03-05-2008, 03:34 PM
What Im going to do to get rid of the seam on the front, is add a piece to make it look like the other side. This will allow the only seams to be 4 ~1" diagonal ones on each side, and the seam across the bottom, which was nearly perfect on the first try.

I think with rounded edges, it will be very tough to do the sides, where the edges overhang the actual side pieces by 1/4". So I want to avoid that, if possible. Ill pick up some padding, and give that a try to give a little better look.

What do you guys think about this?

dragnix
03-05-2008, 03:36 PM
I feel like BJ is an attention ***** who does all these really nice setups so he can "fish" for compliments to make himself feel better :fyi:

bjfish11
03-05-2008, 03:37 PM
I feel like BJ is an attention ***** who does all these really nice setups so he can "fish" for compliments to make himself feel better :fyi:

LOL, ****, you caught me :laugh:

Worlddre
03-05-2008, 08:37 PM
Im definitely open to trying new methods. I think with a little tweaking, I can get my same method to work, for the most part. I think the vinyl I used, may have been too thin, and stretched a little more than I wanted. I might give it a second try with some thicker vinyl this weekend. I just thought of something I can do, that will help me out I think.

If you dont mind, what method do you use?

when doing vinyl my enclosures are built with all flat sides
then i round all my edges aside from the sides and wrap around the center portion of the enclosure. There will still be a seam on the bottom but not visible at all....i then stretch a bout 1" worth of vinyl over on the two side panels after which i cut two more 3/4" pieces rounded on one side only and vinyled and attach those to the sides using t nuts

bjfish11
03-05-2008, 09:39 PM
when doing vinyl my enclosures are built with all flat sides
then i round all my edges aside from the sides and wrap around the center portion of the enclosure. There will still be a seam on the bottom but not visible at all....i then stretch a bout 1" worth of vinyl over on the two side panels after which i cut two more 3/4" pieces rounded on one side only and vinyled and attach those to the sides using t nuts

Sounds interesting. Do you by chance have any pics of a finished box?

Worlddre
03-05-2008, 09:47 PM
Sounds interesting. Do you by chance have any pics of a finished box?

on my camera which is at work ill get it on friday when i return to work

bjfish11
03-05-2008, 09:48 PM
on my camera which is at work ill get it on friday when i return to work

Thanks man, I really appreciate that.

Worlddre
03-05-2008, 09:49 PM
no prob ay all

silvercookie
03-05-2008, 09:50 PM
that looks really nice.

blackbonnie
03-05-2008, 10:16 PM
i think it looks sweet, and i love the sticker backwards

bjfish11
03-05-2008, 10:19 PM
i think it looks sweet, and i love the sticker backwards

LOL, that was the first thing my sister pointed out... "Uh oh, you put your sticker on backwards..." :rolleyes:

blackbonnie
03-05-2008, 10:23 PM
lol, well i like it. i think you should do them all that way, more of a custom look i think

MyFartsStink
03-05-2008, 11:49 PM
Well seams are hard to hide with vinyl. I would get a 1/4 thick mdf covered with the vinyl and attach it to the sides to hide those seams. Usually when I would build a box I would have a half inch allowence for the sides and round that over and sand it, then get another piece with vinyl on it also and stick in in that slot. Here is a pic of what Im talking about
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii115/sothrowd/100_2531.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii115/sothrowd/100_2521.jpg

I know the port is small, it was my first box, and someone else did the math for me.

MyFartsStink
03-05-2008, 11:51 PM
Also for the corners, you would have wrinkles if you dont use a heat gun. But do not overheat and melt your vynil, just 5 to 8 seconds, about 5" away from the vynil.

THUNDERBIRD
03-06-2008, 07:55 AM
you could learn to sew and stitch the corners and make a slip cover for it, then leave 2 edges of it a lil long and seam the vynil in the middle of the bottom of the box

theCybe
03-06-2008, 10:20 AM
Well done man!

Yep -- round the corners, and use seperate cover panels that are prewrapped for the inset sides to hide stuff. :)

FOSGATE JOE
03-06-2008, 10:49 AM
I like it
x2:D

bjfish11
03-06-2008, 01:08 PM
Thanks guys. Ill give it some more trys hopefully this weekend. Experiment with a few different things.

bjfish11
03-21-2008, 09:13 PM
Round II:

Picked up a few technique ideas, so I thought I would give it another shot. Still want to do some things differently, as far as insetting the side, but I will get it figured out.

Thoughts on these?

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/new/MikeBellamy041.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/new/MikeBellamy042.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/new/MikeBellamy043.jpg

The other side looks like poo, so I didnt take any pics of it, LOL.

jmanpc
03-21-2008, 09:16 PM
Thats hot

BrianChia
03-21-2008, 09:16 PM
****, that looks pretty sick.

bjfish11
03-21-2008, 09:45 PM
I was happy the way it turned out. Ill probably try some more this weekend.

LaserRed38
03-21-2008, 09:50 PM
Thats hot

Took the words right....off my fingers? :D

mdsheely
03-21-2008, 10:06 PM
Those boxes are amazing. I like the stitching ideas alot. Like a double seam, I would love to have my piece of crap amp rack thing, I tried to build redone. Wrapped in vinyl to match my interior, stichted with a darker thread. That **** would be amazing. Hmmm....so how much?

BobbyDD
03-22-2008, 12:42 AM
Come on, let's see the other side so we know you're human. :p: That side looks fantastic.

THUMPPER
03-22-2008, 01:32 AM
it's nice to see some vinyl work.....

bjfish11
03-22-2008, 11:10 AM
Thanks guys, Ill try to get some more pics this weekend of a new one. Not going to see the crappy side of this one though ;)