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bball09124
02-29-2008, 08:13 PM
I just put together a box for a competition sunday and it is 15" high in a 93 Explorer. I measured from the back windows to the bottom and its 16". However, the cargo area slopes up and where the passenger door window is, the box looks to sit higher then the windowline. Anybody know if a few inches will put me into a "wall" category?

bball09124
02-29-2008, 10:22 PM
bump, anybody know how high you can go in an explorer before you are techincally above the windowline?

audioatg
02-29-2008, 10:51 PM
Depends on the judge at the show. If no one else(other competitors) has a problem with it. See no reason why you cant run in the no wall class. But most likely If its above the window line its wall class for you. How many inches is it.

bball09124
02-29-2008, 10:56 PM
Depends on the judge at the show. If no one else(other competitors) has a problem with it. See no reason why you cant run in the no wall class. But most likely If its above the window line its wall class for you. How many inches is it.

15 inches high, back window is 16" high. however the passenger door window is around 12" to floor.

05gliguy
02-29-2008, 10:59 PM
:crap:

22mountaineer
02-29-2008, 11:00 PM
So its not the back glass its the pass glass?

05gliguy
02-29-2008, 11:01 PM
What org.?

IgnoreMe
02-29-2008, 11:02 PM
you can go to termpro and check it out but from what i read over there, you can make your box no bigger than like 14.5" tall including the sub if you do crx style. if its not 14.5 its something very close to that. then again one explorer owner argued his was like 15.X while 2 other guys said its in the 14's.

you would probably be stuck in another class.

DBDRAGGUY
02-29-2008, 11:04 PM
14" in my 2000 explorer and I'm good. not sure on yours post a pic to give us a better idea.

bball09124
02-29-2008, 11:06 PM
hmm, its 1 in too high. let me try to get pics h/o. f*ck my luck. :(

05gliguy
02-29-2008, 11:11 PM
USACi Rule Book:
Enclosures in the cargo area of all vehicles competing in the Stock division must be installed behind the rear most passenger seats. Neither the enclosure, nor any device(s) affixed to the enclosure may protrude above the top of the rear seat back or block the view out of the rear glass. Neither the enclosure nor any devices affixed to the enclosure may protrude above the bottom of the side or
rear glass panels.

Hmm... I stand corrected. You appear to be legal in USACi's book if you're under the height of the back seat.

bball09124
02-29-2008, 11:19 PM
here are pics. an identical enclosure is going next to it tommorow, each speaker is a 10".

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/bball09124/P1162765.jpg
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/bball09124/P1162763.jpg
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/bball09124/P1162764.jpg
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/bball09124/P1162762.jpg

whats inside
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/bball09124/P1162766.jpg

bball09124
02-29-2008, 11:37 PM
thanks for that info 05gliguy. i was disqualified last competition for using an ipod and i do not want to get DQed again for something stupid. i am going to print out what you quoted and use it to argue my point, as i am sure they will try to DQ me again.

DBDRAGGUY
02-29-2008, 11:43 PM
No go on the window line for Db Drag. Also if your in a stock or street class your seats need to be able to be fold up to their original position.

RAM_Designs
02-29-2008, 11:48 PM
USACi Rule Book:
Enclosures in the cargo area of all vehicles competing in the Stock division must be installed behind the rear most passenger seats.Neither the enclosure, nor any device(s) affixed to the enclosure may protrude above the top of the rear seat back or block the view out of the rear glass. Neither the enclosure nor any devices affixed to the enclosure may protrude above the bottom of the side or rear glass panels.

Hmm... I stand corrected. You appear to be legal in USACi's book if you're under the height of the back seat.

No, it states that it can't be above the side windows either...

bball09124
02-29-2008, 11:49 PM
this will be for IASCA, hopefully flyweight streetbeat. hmm, these boxes better do well enough to compete even if i do get bumped up a class. i really do not feel like building two more, these took three sheets of wood and two weekends.

edit: this is what i found for an organization called "splenduro"????
Window line will be stung across both front doors with the windows down. It must be below that line.

straight from IASCA rules:
5. Vehicles equipped with OEM factory “fold down” rear seats may be folded down during testing.

but it does not say anything defining "wall".

05gliguy
03-01-2008, 02:24 AM
No, it states that it can't be above the side windows either...

I don't think I quoted it from the rules but it says in the cargo area. His box is not in the cargo area it protrudes forward the back seats so he would be mod in USACi.

PSturmer
03-01-2008, 06:24 PM
i have a 2000 explorer. from what i gather you can go 15.25 H without the insulation underneath the carpet. with the insulation its 14.75 h. this is what they accepted at a 3x event.

PSturmer
03-01-2008, 06:28 PM
here are pics. an identical enclosure is going next to it tommorow, each speaker is a 10".

to save you some time....facing the subs forward when there pushed closer to the front like that was the worst way for spl when i did tests.

djman37
03-01-2008, 06:34 PM
if that's just a tube, remake it as a U shape with port and sub facing the same direction...REAR.

USACi states that the glass is the part above the black factory paint too, back or sides. all gear in the rear-most or 'cargo' area of the vehicle having all available seating in the upright position and locked. They can be folded down for the run....good thing you're in IASCA.

bball09124
03-01-2008, 06:53 PM
i have a 2000 explorer. from what i gather you can go 15.25 H without the insulation underneath the carpet. with the insulation its 14.75 h. this is what they accepted at a 3x event.

what organization? dbdrag?

PSturmer
03-02-2008, 01:48 AM
what organization? dbdrag?

db drag. but there all kinda the same with window line

bball09124
03-02-2008, 10:49 AM
db drag. but there all kinda the same with window line

well you can have seats folded down in IASCA and not in other organizations so who knows. i guess i will find out today.

PSturmer
03-02-2008, 12:48 PM
well you can have seats folded down in IASCA and not in other organizations so who knows. i guess i will find out today.

whether the seats are up or down, it doesnt matter. all that matters is the box is under window line. and in other organizations you can fold your seats down