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JeffM
02-24-2008, 06:52 PM
Im thinking about getting the CDT ES62i Eurosports, But I wanted to know if theres anything else in this price range I should consider?

bones22
02-24-2008, 06:54 PM
Im thinking about getting the CDT ES62i Eurosports, But I wanted to know if theres anything else in this price range I should consider?

for that "budget"

DLS

zeuolaxxx
02-24-2008, 08:20 PM
Hertz MLK165

Paul73
02-24-2008, 08:26 PM
for that "budget"

DLS

:word:

JeffM
02-24-2008, 09:52 PM
Which DLS set?

PremierAudio
02-25-2008, 11:20 AM
DLS, Rainbow, Hertz, They are all good. What kind of sound are you looking for?

stuckinok
02-25-2008, 11:24 AM
250 on active set-up components and the rest on deadening :fyi:

blaze383
02-25-2008, 11:26 AM
Buy my "cheap" Rsd's lol :)

ABSOLUTEAUDIO
02-25-2008, 12:04 PM
I have a set of new boston pro60 components, $285 shipped. pm me if interested

Bumpin'Buick
02-25-2008, 12:06 PM
Hertz MLK165

Do it!

JeffM
02-25-2008, 05:17 PM
Doesn't the MLK165 require a larger mounting depth? I think they would be too big for my doors. Is there anything else from Hertz that are good? And Which set of Rainbows should I take into consideration?

Millertime1028
02-25-2008, 07:49 PM
Rainbow CMX 265

datboiroy
02-25-2008, 08:19 PM
Is there anything else from Hertz that are good?


HSK165

DejaWiz
02-25-2008, 09:51 PM
Rainbow CMX 265 Kick

fixed. :cool:

JeffM
02-25-2008, 10:05 PM
I just took a look at the Rainbow website, and theres so many different lines of speakers. Could someone tell me in order which ones are the best? also, the reason im considering the CDT's is because of their high power handling. How much power can the Rainbows take?

tcguy85
02-25-2008, 10:08 PM
power handling ratings are over rated.

atsaubrey
02-25-2008, 10:09 PM
I usually run 3 times the rated power on my drivers and have yet to have an issue. Of course you need to know what your hearing though.

kmanian
02-25-2008, 10:09 PM
on Rainbows site, go from the bottom to top, better, best & bestest (they don't make plain old good, they start at better.)

kmanian
02-25-2008, 10:11 PM
power handling ratings are over rated.


I agree, it really depends on what you are feeding them, good clean power, at frequencies that are well within their respective abilities.

tcguy85
02-25-2008, 10:18 PM
I agree, it really depends on what you are feeding them, good clean power, at frequencies that are well within their respective abilities.

yup. i have 5 times the power "rating" on my fronts. they take it fine and i crank the **** out of them at times.

JeffM
02-25-2008, 10:20 PM
I agree, it really depends on what you are feeding them, good clean power, at frequencies that are well within their respective abilities.

I currently have a set of MTX components, which are rated at 90 watts, but If i send them any more then 70 the woofer starts to make a popping noise. I have the high pass set at 125, so I dont think its anything I have set wrong. Do you think the MTXs are just over rated and unable to handle the power?

On another topic, Ive read many threads on this forum about Rainbow Germaniums. Are the CMX 265 better or worst then the Germs?

audiobahnuser18
02-25-2008, 10:23 PM
Rainbow or DLS

tcguy85
02-25-2008, 10:24 PM
I usually run 3 times the rated power on my drivers and have yet to have an issue. Of course you need to know what your hearing though.

exactly. just listen, you'll know when it sounds wrong.

kmanian
02-25-2008, 10:33 PM
I currently have a set of MTX components, which are rated at 90 watts, but If i send them any more then 70 the woofer starts to make a popping noise. I have the high pass set at 125, so I dont think its anything I have set wrong. Do you think the MTXs are just over rated and unable to handle the power?

On another topic, Ive read many threads on this forum about Rainbow Germaniums. Are the CMX 265 better or worst then the Germs?

as for the last part of you post, the CMX are a higher line, but the Germs are a very, very nice set of comps, there are lovers of both for different reasons, but I think the germs are a great value:)

kmanian
02-25-2008, 11:05 PM
One last thing I wouldn't concern myself to much with the finities between the comps you have listed and are intrested in, because a good installer can make a basic set of comps sound better than a highend set installed incorrectly. I would dare to say that the majority of installs are not optimized and equipment is not to blame. the set up is the most important part. Not having your gains, X-over points & slopes, speaker location & install techniques ... all have way more to do with how the system will sound than the equipment itself.

My opinion, not that it matters.

tcguy85
02-25-2008, 11:10 PM
One last thing I wouldn't concern myself to much with the finities between the comps you have listed and are intrested in, because a good installer can make a basic set of comps sound better than a highend set installed incorrectly. I would dare to say that the majority of installs are not optimized and equipment is not to blame. the set up is the most important part. Not having your gains, X-over points & slopes, speaker location & install techniques ... all have way more to do with how the system will sound than the equipment itself.

My opinion, not that it matters.

no you are correct. the install is very important. you could buy the "best" stuff and install it wrong and have it sound like poop. you can also install "cheaper" stuff correctly and have it sound excellent.

JeffM
02-25-2008, 11:13 PM
One last thing I wouldn't concern myself to much with the finities between the comps you have listed and are intrested in, because a good installer can make a basic set of comps sound better than a highend set installed incorrectly. I would dare to say that the majority of installs are not optimized and equipment is not to blame. the set up is the most important part. Not having your gains, X-over points & slopes, speaker location & install techniques ... all have way more to do with how the system will sound than the equipment itself.

My opinion, not that it matters.

I agree with you on that statement. my doors are deadened, speakers mounted on a MDF baffle, with Modeling clay around the baffle. I plan on adding more deadening when I install my new comps, and throwing a deflex pad behind the speaker.

Back on the Topic of speaker selction, Who sells Rainbow here?

kmanian
02-25-2008, 11:13 PM
Jeff, If you went with SLC's and installed them correctly, I can tell you personally that they sound great (not discounting other brands) and you can save a couple hundred on your comps. I do at this point want to ask what your equipment list is?

kmanian
02-25-2008, 11:14 PM
I do have some new and some used, do you have a budget, and what sizes are you lookig for? 2 way or 3 way?

tcguy85
02-25-2008, 11:18 PM
I agree with you on that statement. my doors are deadened, speakers mounted on a MDF baffle, with Modeling clay around the baffle. I plan on adding more deadening when I install my new comps, and throwing a deflex pad behind the speaker.

Back on the Topic of speaker selction, Who sells Rainbow here?

good sounds like you got it.

sixspeedcoupe (sp) i think sells rainbow.

edit: 6spdcoupe

JeffM
02-25-2008, 11:20 PM
My headunit is an Pioneer 4800MP, an Infinity 7541 Amp( putting out 111 watts a channel, 278 bridged), and very soon a Kicker 750.1 amp and a 12" CVX.

kmanian
02-25-2008, 11:21 PM
tnaudiophile also sells, a bit of a slow shipper, but the products are perfect.

tcguy85
02-25-2008, 11:22 PM
278 watts a side should power anything so have at it.

redfish8
02-25-2008, 11:23 PM
what about a pair of comps for 250 or under running off 120rms per speaker

not meaning to steal the thread just wondering

thanks

kmanian
02-25-2008, 11:23 PM
My headunit is an Pioneer 4800MP, an Infinity 7541 Amp( putting out 111 watts a channel, 278 bridged), and very soon a Kicker 750.1 amp and a 12" CVX.


If the infinity is what you are going to push the comps with you will have no problem. Let them rip.;)
Let us know how it turns out.

redfish8
02-25-2008, 11:24 PM
what about a pair of comps for 250 or under running off 120rms per speaker

not meaning to steal the thread just wondering

thanks

bump

tcguy85
02-25-2008, 11:25 PM
what about a pair of comps for 250 or under running off 120rms per speaker

not meaning to steal the thread just wondering

thanks

don't thread jack!!!.... but PG RSD's :cool:

kmanian
02-25-2008, 11:27 PM
what about a pair of comps for 250 or under running off 120rms per speaker

not meaning to steal the thread just wondering

thanks


You just typed "not meaning to steal the thread just wondering", so you intentionally, unintentionally thread jacked this thread.:laugh:

Just busting your balls.

I personally go with the rainbows again, just because I know them. with comps in that price range, the cal 20's are a bit bright and EQing them down at between 12-16k hz works wonders.

redfish8
02-25-2008, 11:34 PM
how are polk momos or cdt's

kmanian
02-25-2008, 11:38 PM
how are polk momos or cdt's

your jackin':wow: again

redfish8
02-25-2008, 11:42 PM
then go to this link and help me out on tht

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=295156

DejaWiz
02-26-2008, 10:06 AM
With that 4 channel amp, why not bi-amp or run active? You could sell your current HU, buy a decent set of comps and an active capable HU, like the Pioneer 880PRS.

You have $500 to spend.
...sell your HU for around $75.
...you now have about $575 to spend.
...buy a 880PRS for $300.
...you now have $275 left.
...buy some TS-C720PRS (http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/showpost.php?p=75125&postcount=21) comps (http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/showpost.php?p=75744&postcount=33) for about $260.
...you still have $15 bucks left, sweet.


Or to save even more money, you can always build your own active comp set by picking out mids and tweeters over at a place like madisound.com.