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RyanH
02-06-2008, 04:53 PM
Question..........

I have two 8" Whip Audio Mids going in each door on my 00 Hombre.

I want to make sure they hit the lows real good. they are rated at 60-6k hz i think....

i am going to cross them over from 60-3000, my tweets from 2500-16k, and my subs from 70 and down....

my question is, if i enclose the mids will they sound better and hit the lows better?

thanks!

and what size encloser should i do?

krisfnbz
02-06-2008, 08:00 PM
Do you have your doors fully dynamated?

RAM_Designs
02-06-2008, 08:03 PM
don't cross your 8" mids that high, unless they're perfectly on axis...2khz is the highest I would ever think of going with 8's. Especially since you're already crossing your tweets at 2.5khz, why are you overlapping so much...I find that leaving small gaps between is better, but maybe not in your case...

squeak9798
02-06-2008, 09:23 PM
If you have the high efficiency Whip Audio speakers that I'm thinking of.....you're not going to get any decent low end response out of them. They are high efficiency, low excursion and very likely low Q high Fs drivers (I couldn't find any real specs on them with a very brief search, so the last part is a presumption but I would be surprised if it was an inaccurate presumption).

Sealing them in a small, sealed enclosure would be an even worse idea, resulting in even more diminished low frequency response.

Most likely the only way to get anything reasonably close to good low frequency response/extension out of them would be to port them, in a properly sized and tuned enclosure (which likely won't fit in your door very well).

RyanH
02-07-2008, 09:35 AM
If you have the high efficiency Whip Audio speakers that I'm thinking of.....you're not going to get any decent low end response out of them. They are high efficiency, low excursion and very likely low Q high Fs drivers (I couldn't find any real specs on them with a very brief search, so the last part is a presumption but I would be surprised if it was an inaccurate presumption).

Sealing them in a small, sealed enclosure would be an even worse idea, resulting in even more diminished low frequency response.

Most likely the only way to get anything reasonably close to good low frequency response/extension out of them would be to port them, in a properly sized and tuned enclosure (which likely won't fit in your door very well).

these are acutally high excursion 8's...

found out a good reason for no low end yesterday..... stupid me!

the speaker is 8 ohm, ( 7.3 ohm acutally ) and my amp makes 85watts at 4ohms on 1 channel....... you see the problem there!

well it didn't dawn on me untill i talked to my buddy.
so this morning i bridged it at 8 ohm, which my amp does 340 watts at 4ohms bridged..................DAYUMM!!!!! what a difference! i can acutally see the speaker moving now, it is hitting the lows just fine now!

tez4life
02-07-2008, 10:41 PM
these are acutally high excursion 8's...

found out a good reason for no low end yesterday..... stupid me!

the speaker is 8 ohm, ( 7.3 ohm acutally ) and my amp makes 85watts at 4ohms on 1 channel....... you see the problem there!

well it didn't dawn on me untill i talked to my buddy.
so this morning i bridged it at 8 ohm, which my amp does 340 watts at 4ohms bridged..................DAYUMM!!!!! what a difference! i can acutally see the speaker moving now, it is hitting the lows just fine now!


Cool, that maybe the first review of the Whip mids I have ever seen. I would not have figured that they would have lows like a normal speaker, figure just loud mids like other pro audio stuff. Looking forward to the finish build and thanks for that info a while back.

RyanH
02-08-2008, 11:08 AM
Cool, that maybe the first review of the Whip mids I have ever seen. I would not have figured that they would have lows like a normal speaker, figure just loud mids like other pro audio stuff. Looking forward to the finish build and thanks for that info a while back.

Well here is some more info for you!

I went ahead and hooked two of the 8's together to get a 4 ohm load and bridged them on my amp! WOW!

2 of them were rattling stuff in the cab.... i have my headunit crossover set at 60hz and up and i cut everything from 2500 and up out since that is where i will cross it over at in the end. so they are played everything from 60-2500 hz.

but they sound dayum good! i can tell with a better amp, more power, and my XM6 crossover it will sound even better!

nismos14
02-11-2008, 03:35 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/8-whip-audio-car-voice-speakers-W8M8400_W0QQitemZ190168207935QQihZ009QQcategoryZ32 819QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQtrksidZp1638.m118.l124 7QQcmdZViewItem ?

:crap:

Louisiana_CRX
02-11-2008, 03:41 PM
Are those high end :confused:

RyanH
02-11-2008, 04:02 PM
i got mine for 39.90 plus shipping each.......

www.dpcauto.com

search under subwoofers

they play 60hz-6k hz..... they sound VERY good i think.... mine will sound even better with cleaner power and my crossover hooked up

nismos14
02-11-2008, 04:03 PM
Lol subwoofers........ they should be under midranges.

Definately HIGHHHHHHHHH end Dave!

JCANTONE
02-11-2008, 04:10 PM
I bought mine like 2 years ago, I think before tommy started running them, paid $800 for 12 6.5's and 4 8"s

nismos14
02-11-2008, 04:12 PM
:crap: :crap: this thread keeps getting worse and worse.

MikeyB
02-11-2008, 04:24 PM
Is it worth it to try and blend a set of 8's in with a set of 6.5's and a substage?

JCANTONE
02-11-2008, 04:27 PM
Is it worth it to try and blend a set of 8's in with a set of 6.5's and a substage?

Not really when I never even used them...went with some 6.5" o2 mids instead, they were a little quiter, but MUCH MUCH clearer!!!

nismos14
02-11-2008, 04:27 PM
2 8's 2 6.5's and a sub? NO.

nismos14
02-11-2008, 04:31 PM
What is wrong with all you **** ticklers with 8 6.5's and 30 tweeters!!!!! :mad:

JCANTONE
02-11-2008, 04:32 PM
What is wrong with all you **** ticklers with 8 6.5's and 30 tweeters!!!!! :mad:

Some ppl arent into SQ so much...theyre into ear bleedin, you can hear me from a mile away HIGHS!!!

MikeyB
02-11-2008, 04:34 PM
Thats what I figured. I need to deaden my doors ****it!!! My mids have a lot of kick, but I know it would be mucho better with deadened doors :)

nismos14
02-11-2008, 04:34 PM
Why don't you get some nice speakers and make them loud? Alot of NICE speakers that sound good in large quantity will sound better than ear bleeding jargon.

JCANTONE
02-11-2008, 04:35 PM
Why don't you get some nice speakers and make them loud? Alot of NICE speakers that sound good in large quantity will sound better than ear bleeding jargon.

truth...but wayyyyyyyy more expensive...get my point?

MikeyB
02-11-2008, 04:35 PM
Why don't you get some nice speakers and make them loud? Alot of NICE speakers that sound good in large quantity will sound better than ear bleeding jargon.

Are you referring to me?

the727kid
02-11-2008, 04:37 PM
Why don't you get some nice speakers and make them loud? Alot of NICE speakers that sound good in large quantity will sound better than ear bleeding jargon.

Eh I could care to argue that. I'm switching from my Germs over to high efficiency speakers, soley to get much louder. I will probally end up with a 8 and 6.5" in my doors along with my horns. Yet again I have my 9887 to smooth it out ;). I may actually try out these 8s, they are only $40 each, and around here I could resell them both for $150 lol.

Louisiana_CRX
02-11-2008, 04:52 PM
I think I'm gonna stick with my German made MB Quart QM 210 TC 8's....