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Bun-Bun
01-25-2008, 02:15 AM
I can get hertz locally and I went and auditioned some today. I didnt have much to bring with me to listen to but I played with them for a good 30 minutes.

First impressions they are both very clear and detailed with the HSK being brighter and the MLK having better midbass.

However whenver I switched to the MLK's I felt somethign was being dropped. While the midbass got better I felt some instruments in the midrange were gone or lessened...I dont know if maybe the HSK just have a more bloated midrange? My theory is the MLK were being serious underpowered. They were running on a 300/4 JL amp. I beleive thats 70x4 RMS.

I will be running at least 150 watts to them and preferably 200 watts.

So what does everyone else thing of these two sets head to head?

BTW There 6x9's rock! switched them on and I could actually feel it in my gut!

Thedeadly1
01-25-2008, 03:19 AM
I have the HSK 165's and ive never heard a better front stage before. Ive never heard the mlk's

Bun-Bun
01-25-2008, 11:46 AM
I have the HSK 165's and ive never heard a better front stage before. Ive never heard the mlk's

The MLK are the Mille line which are there top end component. Retail the HSK's are $400 CAD and the Mille's are $999 CAD here at my local delear.

The mille's definitly have better clarity and are smoother but the mid range lacks in something that I cant describe but I think it may have to do with the fact they are underpowered. I would like to hear them with a 200w per channle amp.

wong05tsx
01-25-2008, 12:50 PM
I have the HSK 165's and ive never heard a better front stage before. Ive never heard the mlk's

+1

Should be hearing some top of the line ssjgoten's germaniums soon, should be a good comparison

my hsk's are getting 150watts atm. they'll be seeing 320 watts in about a week when i finish installing. amazing midbass in these badboys

aeon
01-25-2008, 01:34 PM
sorry to go off topic, but for the guys running the hsk165, where do you guys have your tweeters mounted?

denali804
01-25-2008, 02:31 PM
I had my mlk's running at 75watts rms and I couldn't believe that I wasted my money on them. I was really disappointed in the overall sound especially the mid bass. I decided to slap 150 watts on each of them and omfg what a difference. I wish I could slap even more power on them, they love the power and sound great. I guess the mlk's are less efficient (sp) then the hsk's.

Bun-Bun
01-25-2008, 02:57 PM
I had my mlk's running at 75watts rms and I couldn't believe that I wasted my money on them. I was really disappointed in the overall sound especially the mid bass. I decided to slap 150 watts on each of them and omfg what a difference. I wish I could slap even more power on them, they love the power and sound great. I guess the mlk's are less efficient (sp) then the hsk's.

That's the exact impression I got, just I have not heard them with more then 70 watts of power. They sound a lot smoother then the HSK's with the HSK's being brighter and a bit harsh in comparison. Midbass is very close between them witht he same power with more detail on the MSK's.

But switching bakc and forth between them it sounds like the HSK's are more efficient then the MSK's although according to Hertz specifications they are the same (92db).

I think I am going to have to find some more complex music to go test them with. One thing I can definitly comment on is the HSK's blended with the subs and 6x9's better then the MSK's but that could just be the way that Hertz board was wired. Little tweaking would probably fix it.

aeon
01-25-2008, 03:24 PM
well giving 75w to a set speakers rated at 300w peak, of course you'll be disappointed.

Thedeadly1
01-25-2008, 11:22 PM
i forgot to mention my hsk's are getting 170 rms each at idle. they love it.

tcguy85
01-25-2008, 11:27 PM
^ what do you mean by "at idle"?

Bun-Bun
01-26-2008, 01:09 AM
well giving 75w to a set speakers rated at 300w peak, of course you'll be disappointed.

Well exactly... thats why I am wondeirng if anyone has heard these things compared at some better power... like 150+ wrms. Like the MSK's sound great but with the power thye had they would be tried to keep up with th e 2 12's im putting in but im sure the more power they got they would perform a lot better.

datboiroy
01-26-2008, 01:22 AM
i bought a set of MLK's, deciding on an amp im gonna use. thinking of using the Diamond Audio D6 700.4 amp. does 350 x 2 at 4ohms.

Bun-Bun
01-26-2008, 01:48 AM
i bought a set of MLK's, deciding on an amp im gonna use. thinking of using the Diamond Audio D6 700.4 amp. does 350 x 2 at 4ohms.

That would be enough power :D Now just get the HSK's and compare them at that power lol

datboiroy
01-26-2008, 01:58 AM
That would be enough power :D Now just get the HSK's and compare them at that power lol

well i have heard the hsk's at bout 175 watts and they sounded really nice, smooth and detailed. i wont be able to hear my mlks for a few weeks as i still gotta order the amp and get some hushmat and do the install.

lyttleviet
01-26-2008, 04:48 AM
well i have heard the hsk's at bout 175 watts and they sounded really nice, smooth and detailed. i wont be able to hear my mlks for a few weeks as i still gotta order the amp and get some hushmat and do the install.

knowing you, it'll be longer than that. Do me a favor me and prove me wrong.:rolleyes:..

My MLKs are running with 440wrmsx2 and they love every bit of the power. If you want something efficient and on a budget go for the HSKs. The mille series are power hungry and want big boys with big electrical systems.:crazy:

tcguy85
01-26-2008, 09:27 AM
knowing you, it'll be longer than that. Do me a favor me and prove me wrong.:rolleyes:..

My MLKs are running with 440wrmsx2 and they love every bit of the power. If you want something efficient and on a budget go for the HSKs. The mille series are power hungry and want big boys with big electrical systems.:crazy:

thats crazy. even crazier if you are actually using more than half of that. i couldn't imagine needing 440 per side. these must be really inefficient or something.

Bun-Bun
01-26-2008, 12:12 PM
Well the bare minium I will put to them is 150wrmsx2 with my PG 5.0:4 bridged 2 channel.

The price is not so much an issue as I can more then likely get a good deal on the mille from the local dealer. Getting a more powerful amp is another thing though. Thinking of the Alpine PDX-4.100 or 4.150 and bridging them 2 channle for the fronts ( so either 200wrms x 2 or 300wrms x 2) and getting 2.100 for the rear fill.

wong05tsx
01-26-2008, 12:28 PM
Getting a more powerful amp is another thing though. Thinking of the PDX-4.100 or 4.150 and bridging them 2 channle for the fronts ( so either 200wrms x 2 or 300wrms x 2) and getting 2.100 for the rear fill.

i'm doing something similar for the HSK's in the next week or two (whenever this rain stops), getting 150watts from a jl 300/2 for the hertz right now, with rear doors disconnected. got a Sundown 100.4 and 100.2, bridging 100.4, 320+ watts to the hertz, 100.2 for the rear

Thedeadly1
01-26-2008, 02:16 PM
i mean the voltage at idle i figured it to be 170 thorugh the dmm and all.

RoLLaxPhile
01-26-2008, 03:44 PM
man you guys are crazy putting power over the recommend peak, I'm surprise you guys have yet to blow out your speakers. Has anyone ever think about biamping the MLK's? It's almost like running active giving the tweet and midbass their own power

datboiroy
01-26-2008, 03:50 PM
knowing you, it'll be longer than that. Do me a favor me and prove me wrong.:rolleyes:..


well i would but im waiting on the shop to order my stuff, my sub is on order, gotta also wait for hushmat and kinetik batteries.

tcguy85
01-26-2008, 06:29 PM
man you guys are crazy putting power over the recommend peak, I'm surprise you guys have yet to blow out your speakers. Has anyone ever think about biamping the MLK's? It's almost like running active giving the tweet and midbass their own power

yea my question is, are they actually using that much power? i have way more power on tap for my comps then they are rated for but i'm not using anywhere near all of it. i wonder if the guys with 300+ per side are actually using anywhere near all of it.

Bun-Bun
01-26-2008, 08:22 PM
man you guys are crazy putting power over the recommend peak, I'm surprise you guys have yet to blow out your speakers. Has anyone ever think about biamping the MLK's? It's almost like running active giving the tweet and midbass their own power

I ran 150wrms into some 50wrms/100peak speakers for over 2 years. There still fine.

denali804
01-26-2008, 10:31 PM
Good clean power never hurt a speaker. I've spent years doing pro sound concert system and we've always gone way over peak power ratings. no problems.

Bun-Bun
01-27-2008, 12:08 AM
Good clean power never hurt a speaker. I've spent years doing pro sound concert system and we've always gone way over peak power ratings. no problems.

Good clean power to good speakers ;)

RoLLaxPhile
01-27-2008, 12:41 AM
Good clean power to good speakers ;)

Yeah, not of those weak flea market brand speakers. :laugh:

I think i'm gonna pick up an pdx4.150 or zx850.4 and biamp them to see how they sound like.

lostdaytomorrow
02-01-2008, 12:59 PM
Where are you guys getting your Hertz if there's no local dealers? Are there any authorized dealers on here?

zeuolaxxx
02-01-2008, 01:29 PM
datboiroy

sleepybrown
02-01-2008, 01:32 PM
sorry to go off topic, but for the guys running the hsk165, where do you guys have your tweeters mounted?

Still playing around with the tweeter placement, but for right now....

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff317/sleepybrown_photos/Maxines%20Transformation/Picture617.jpg

I am running the HSK 165 Midbass in the doors with the Space 1 tweeter mounted in the front corners of the windshield.

zeuolaxxx
02-01-2008, 03:52 PM
the Space 1 is better tweeter than the HT25?

sleepybrown
02-02-2008, 01:39 AM
the Space 1 is better tweeter than the HT25?

The Space 1.1 tweeter IMO is way better than the HT25 that comes with the Hertz HSK 165 set.

I am trying to find where I read this...but I believe that the Space 1.1 is actually the tweeter that is used in the MLK 165 Component set. (ML28) They move up to he ML280 with the higher level of Mille line component set (MLK2).

Before I get bashed for making that statement, I will follow up with my local dealer to get clarification on that though....

zeuolaxxx
02-02-2008, 11:39 AM
ok thanks..!

sleepybrown
02-03-2008, 08:22 PM
The Space 1.1 tweeter IMO is way better than the HT25 that comes with the Hertz HSK 165 set.

I am trying to find where I read this...but I believe that the Space 1.1 is actually the tweeter that is used in the MLK 165 Component set. (ML28) They move up to he ML280 with the higher level of Mille line component set (MLK2).

Before I get bashed for making that statement, I will follow up with my local dealer to get clarification on that though....


Just heard back from my local Hertz dealer and I was correct. The Space 1.1 tweeter is the same tweeter that is used in the MLK-165 component set.

Bun-Bun
02-07-2008, 12:26 AM
I wouldn't say the HSK tweeter is any worse then the MLK or Space tweeter... it is just a bit more harsh. Depending on the type of music you listen to that may or may not be what you are looking for.

hpatel34
02-25-2008, 02:01 PM
what would you do?
i have the mlk 165 and an audison vrx4.300 (110 wrms x 4, or bridged is 350 x 2)
when i first installed them i had it at 110 goin to each side, and sounded great.
i recently bridged the amp and they sound even better, i lost some of the lower end do to adjusting the high pass crossover point up to 100.
My question is, should i bi-amp them and use 110wrms to each sub and tweet or leave it at 350wrms?
there is no audible distortion, but do you think the speakers can handle the power thermally?

and i really do not want to buy another amp

USC_Gamecock
02-29-2008, 02:02 AM
Where are you guys getting your Hertz if there's no local dealers? Are there any authorized dealers on here?

I'm in Houston, and my car is in the shop right now getting an install done. I have a 2005 Infiniti G35 Coupe, getting the following put in:

-Hertz MLK165
-Hertz ML2500
-Audison LRx5.1k
-Eclipse AVN5510

I am getting it done at an authorized dealer (for Hertz/Audison). Also, let him install it, and Hertz gives a 3 year warranty (installed by a dealer).

I am running an active setup off the amp. Tweets are running high pass off the a-channel at 60W per channel. The mids are running bandpass off the b-channel at 170W per channel. The sub is running off the sub channel (low pass obviously), and it will get 750W @ 4 ohms. I think it should be plenty of power :D

I should get my car back on Saturday, so I'll post some pics then.

RoLLaxPhile
02-29-2008, 02:06 AM
Let us know the review...btw

You're actually gonna get 50wattsx2/160wattsx2/650wattsx1 according to the CEA2006 Ratings.

USC_Gamecock
02-29-2008, 02:26 AM
Let us know the review...btw

You're actually gonna get 50wattsx2/160wattsx2/650wattsx1 according to the CEA2006 Ratings.

Oh, okay -- I was just going by the RMS 4-ohm ratings I found when I downloaded the manual off the Audison site -- guess those are a bit over-inflated?

RoLLaxPhile
02-29-2008, 02:30 AM
Oh, okay -- I was just going by the RMS 4-ohm ratings I found when I downloaded the manual off the Audison site -- guess those are a bit over-inflated?

Yupz go by the CEA Ratings instead of the Companies. Btw, make sure to give us a review on how it sounds. I'm still debating between this Audison 5.1k, Hertz HP2, or the Steg amps.

USC_Gamecock
02-29-2008, 02:32 AM
Yupz go by the CEA Ratings instead of the Companies. Btw, make sure to give us a review on how it sounds. I'm still debating between this Audison 5.1k, Hertz HP2, or the Steg amps.

I'll definitely do that, and you're right -- this review of the amp backs up the ratings you gave me ...

http://www.caraudiomag.com/features/cae_0710_audison_lrx_amplifier/index.html

The following is taken from the article above --

Audison LRX5.1K Amplifier - Aftermarket Amplifier

PERFORMANCE DATA
Output power @ 1%THD, 1kHz/100Hz, 14.4Volts
Channels A 60 watts x 2 @ 4 ohms
Channels B 181 watts x 2 @ 4 ohms
Channel C 787 watts x 1 @ 4 ohms

Output power @ 1%THD, 1kHz/100kHz, 12.5Volts
Channels A 52 watts x 2 @ 4 ohms
Channels B 156 watts x 2 @ 4 ohms
Channel C 691 watts x 1 @ 4 ohms

Distortion at rated power, 1kHz/100kHz, 14.4Volts,4-ohms
Channels A 0.01%
Channels B 0.09%
Channel C 0.51%
Input sensitivity 349mV to 4.8V
Frequency response (+ 1dB)
S/N Ratio (A weighted, full 4-ohm power, min gain) 10Hz - 52kHz
Channels A -103.7dBA
Channels B -100.3dBA
Channels C -86.9dBA

Output Impedance @ 100Hz, 4 ohms 0.03 ohms
Idle current 3.8A
Maximum current consumption @ 4 ohms, unclipped 194 amps
Efficiency at 11/43 power lowest impedance 27.2%
Efficiency at full power, 1%THD, lowest impedance 68%
Crossover, Channels A & B
Highpass range 50Hz - 5kHz
Lowpass range 50Hz - 5kHz
Slope -24dB/octave
Crossover, Channel C
Range 50Hz - 150Hz
Slope -24dB/octave
Dimensions 19.25"L x 7.812"W x 2.25"H

Bumpin'Buick
02-29-2008, 01:10 PM
You're gonna love that setup.

I have pretty much the same equipment minus the Eclipse, and instead of the 2500 I have the 3000.

Running it all active and it sounds great.

Good choice on components.

datboiroy
03-01-2008, 10:33 AM
I'm in Houston, and my car is in the shop right now getting an install done. I have a 2005 Infiniti G35 Coupe, getting the following put in:

-Hertz MLK165
-Hertz ML2500
-Audison LRx5.1k
-Eclipse AVN5510

I am getting it done at an authorized dealer (for Hertz/Audison). Also, let him install it, and Hertz gives a 3 year warranty (installed by a dealer).

I am running an active setup off the amp. Tweets are running high pass off the a-channel at 60W per channel. The mids are running bandpass off the b-channel at 170W per channel. The sub is running off the sub channel (low pass obviously), and it will get 750W @ 4 ohms. I think it should be plenty of power :D

I should get my car back on Saturday, so I'll post some pics then.


heard the highs last night in your car :) cant wait to hook mine up :verymad:

USC_Gamecock
03-01-2008, 01:03 PM
heard the highs last night in your car :) cant wait to hook mine up :verymad:

Dang man -- can't wait til it's done!!!

Bumpin'Buick
03-01-2008, 01:06 PM
A G35 coupe is a deserving car of such a nice setup!:)

LaserRed38
03-01-2008, 01:11 PM
Ugh.....I want a 5.1k so bad. My US Amps is pretty nice though. That setup should sound really good^^.

Blackcharger06
03-01-2008, 02:40 PM
Wow man that's going to be amazing. Pretty close to what Tim B did, only he went with the MLK 2's like I did. You will be happy no matter what with that combo. Good luck and post a review like everyone else is saying.

datboiroy
03-02-2008, 01:13 AM
Dang man -- can't wait til it's done!!!

it's done!!!!:veryhapp:

USC_Gamecock
03-02-2008, 01:29 AM
Yeah man, I am completely blown away!!

I been driving around Houston burning gas just to listen to it since I left. I will post a better review some time this week, but in short, it sounds unbelievable.

That ML2500 does NOT sound like a 10" sub, and the gain is only set at half way on it. People are right about the mid-bass on the MLK165's -- amazing. I was listening to the Metallica S&M CD, track 2 "The Call Of Ktulu" and I heard things in that track that I never noticed before.

Anyways, just wanted to say it sounds much better than I expected. I will listen to some more music on it, and write up a proper review.

RoLLaxPhile
03-02-2008, 01:39 AM
how are the tweets with only 50watts? Does it blend well?

USC_Gamecock
03-02-2008, 01:58 AM
how are the tweets with only 50watts? Does it blend well?

Definitely ... the tweets are not harsh at all, but they are very detailed and clean. Tweets definitely held their own through out the Metallica S&M CD -- the triangles, flutes, violins and other higher frequency instruments came through clear against the drums and lower frequency instruments -- including the bass guitar.

datboiroy
03-02-2008, 02:05 PM
gah!!!! your makin me want mine installed NOW!!!!!

khanhfat
03-02-2008, 11:30 PM
Definitely ... the tweets are not harsh at all, but they are very detailed and clean. Tweets definitely held their own through out the Metallica S&M CD -- the triangles, flutes, violins and other higher frequency instruments came through clear against the drums and lower frequency instruments -- including the bass guitar.

So you biamp on the crossover? :D I just looked at the specs of the audison, i wonder how it sounds :D. hertz tweeters is awesome, i've heard once on a friends's car

USC_Gamecock
03-03-2008, 07:49 PM
So you biamp on the crossover? :D I just looked at the specs of the audison, i wonder how it sounds :D. hertz tweeters is awesome, i've heard once on a friends's car

Biamp on the xovers? Nah, I am not using the passive xovers. The a-channel of the amp is powering the tweeters @ high pass, the b-channel of the amp is powering the mids @ bandpass, and the d-channel of the amp is powering the sub @ low pass.

As for the sound? I am working on a review :)

Bumpin'Buick
03-04-2008, 05:43 PM
what'd you end up crossing over the tweets and mids at?

Bun-Bun
07-18-2008, 06:07 PM
Wow I just found this thread again...

Ok I think you guys convinced me to get the MLK's to be powered by my PDX4.150 :D

Might pick up the HSK's for cheap until then though...

titanle
07-18-2008, 06:23 PM
lol im thinkin of movin my hsk to the rear and buying a sundown100.2 to power them. Then get a set of either the mlk or cdt es62i gold and bridge my sundown100.4 :)

speedfreak28
07-18-2008, 06:27 PM
does anybody know how much those mlk 3 comps cost. theyre dope but i cant find prices anywhere.

titanle
07-18-2008, 06:29 PM
im guessing in the $2000 ballpark lol

speedfreak28
07-18-2008, 06:30 PM
**** that i could do the dyanudio 3 way new sub and 5 channel for 2 g's

speedfreak28
07-18-2008, 06:31 PM
i saw them in a 6 series beamer in a car audio mag, had the sickest hertz/audison setup ive ever seen.

titanle
07-18-2008, 06:31 PM
im just guessin but i know the mlk retail for 999 so yeah

speedfreak28
07-18-2008, 06:33 PM
either way, its would probably be waste in my truck, not a classy enough vehicle IMO for that equipment.

titanle
07-18-2008, 06:36 PM
look into CDT, good quality stuff and not too pricey

speedfreak28
07-18-2008, 06:37 PM
yea i had a set of eurosports in my old truck, wasnt real impressed, i change my setup every couple months. im definately in the market fora nice 3 way setup now.

titanle
07-18-2008, 06:38 PM
you didnt like the es? how come?

speedfreak28
07-18-2008, 06:41 PM
could have been my install, didnt have the amount of midbass i was looking for, the doors were deadened but im sure if i made pods they coulda sounded better. i like my kicker ss components, they get pretty loud and sound great IMO.

titanle
07-18-2008, 06:44 PM
hmmmm ive heard the opposite, the es have great midbass....

"that boy asad"
09-05-2008, 02:31 AM
anyone else have an input...

i want to know what are the main sound differences, what amount of power is best for each, and what is better for the money?

khanhfat
09-05-2008, 10:24 AM
you already answered for yourself asad. Best power for MLk165 is around 250W and up.. just add up the max Watt power of tweet and mids and that will b the RMS u gonna put on them.

datboiroy
09-06-2008, 11:23 PM
500 watts ftw!!!!!! :)

Freelander
09-07-2008, 02:48 AM
ugh I think I'm going to bite the bullet and buy a set of the HSK165's for up front....

02accord
09-07-2008, 05:48 AM
its def worth it!

95ZJ
09-07-2008, 05:49 AM
How are the mids on these? Better than ID OEM's?

lyttleviet
09-07-2008, 05:50 AM
How are the mids on these? Better than ID OEM's?

MUCH better... not even a close comparison IMO... either of these in a proper install should have a better, more responsive midbass than the CTX components and oems.

Bun-Bun
09-08-2008, 12:51 PM
I love how my thread keeps getting resurected...

Now in reference to the ID OEM's... which are you saying is better? the MLK or the HSK?

Bottomline from my reading in the HSK vs MLK department is if you have enough power... get the MLK's as they sound like supreme *** with too low power. HSK's are good for the money though...

lyttleviet
09-08-2008, 07:20 PM
If anyone is really considering this stuff and wants to know like exact specific differences, you can hit me up on aim. I've dealt with these speakers enough IMO so I can attempt to explain what I've heard =P. Same name as here.

khanhfat
09-09-2008, 12:36 PM
I love how my thread keeps getting resurected...

Now in reference to the ID OEM's... which are you saying is better? the MLK or the HSK?

Bottomline from my reading in the HSK vs MLK department is if you have enough power... get the MLK's as they sound like supreme *** with too low power. HSK's are good for the money though...



just power them with the number the manufacturer print on the magnet :D

yes with HSK it's for mid range "budget" type and can get really good.

With MLK , it's just a power hungry comps just feed them with the maximal rating power or over power that maximal ratings with no problem. :D

me and viet probably write up a good comparison between hertz MLk and HSK soon we now found the cars that has both speakers to be reviewed.

"that boy asad"
09-09-2008, 01:30 PM
If anyone is really considering this stuff and wants to know like exact specific differences, you can hit me up on aim. I've dealt with these speakers enough IMO so I can attempt to explain what I've heard =P. Same name as here.
i would like to know exact specific differences...

i can't wait till my car is done, so i can give the MLK/HSK a review myself!

khanhfat
09-09-2008, 09:01 PM
i would like to know exact specific differences...

i can't wait till my car is done, so i can give the MLK/HSK a review myself!

whens the ETA date to b finish?

What specific things that you want to point out?

"that boy asad"
09-22-2008, 12:44 PM
whens the ETA date to b finish?

What specific things that you want to point out?

hopefully soon, im just waiting on huy to get started on my car...

specific things -> mid detail/tweeter difference

GlocksRock
09-22-2008, 12:52 PM
I just ordered a set of HSK - 165 and am anxiously awaiting their arrival so I can get them installed.

Bun-Bun
09-24-2008, 11:34 AM
hopefully soon, im just waiting on huy to get started on my car...

specific things -> mid detail/tweeter difference

From my listening in a demo board the MLK's tweeter is much smoother then the HSK's. The HSK's in comparision sound really harsh.

The mid's are quite a bit more detailed however they were underpowered so they sounded muddy in the demo board... Can't wait to hear some properly amped.

datboiroy
09-24-2008, 12:28 PM
bamaboy got me thinking MLK2 :)

khanhfat
09-24-2008, 07:23 PM
bamaboy got me thinking MLK2 :)

nah man MLK3 is better with the ribbon. I don't know who has them though i want to have an audition with them .... the hertz thing can't compare to my 40$ PX100 headphone from Sennheiser ... what's wrong?:confused::confused: LOL

datboiroy
09-24-2008, 07:30 PM
nah man MLK3 is better with the ribbon. I don't know who has them though i want to have an audition with them .... the hertz thing can't compare to my 40$ PX100 headphone from Sennheiser ... what's wrong?:confused::confused: LOL

lmao, i dont want a 3way setup for the g37 lol, but then again i heard a set of k2p's 3way in the factory location in a g37, sounded nice, id do the 3way hertz in a g37 but the mid wont fit in the factory location lol.

bamaboy
09-24-2008, 09:46 PM
ive played with pretty much all of them that have 6.5" except the MLK3's on the display and in cars

HSK, on the display boards, are a tad bit heavy in the mid range freqs, more efficient

MLK are alot smoother, "brighter" tweeter, not harsh, just more in your face, midbass is close on the displays, edge going to MLKs

but your looking at a 2x+ increase in price, on their own, both sound good on their own, just when u put them together, u can tell the differences

our demo room before it was finished, have the glass in there now where the boxes are, u cant really see it, but mlk2 is the bottom piece
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/6260/ckr05800x600pj0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

khanhfat
09-26-2008, 02:25 PM
ive played with pretty much all of them that have 6.5" except the MLK3's on the display and in cars

HSK, on the display boards, are a tad bit heavy in the mid range freqs, more efficient

MLK are alot smoother, "brighter" tweeter, not harsh, just more in your face, midbass is close on the displays, edge going to MLKs

but your looking at a 2x+ increase in price, on their own, both sound good on their own, just when u put them together, u can tell the differences

our demo room before it was finished, have the glass in there now where the boxes are, u cant really see it, but mlk2 is the bottom piece
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nice room , your opinions is pretty straight forward for what ppl are looking at. I agree on your opinion on the tweeter and woofer of MLK is little bit brighter not harsh and smoother on the mids.

mannyahles
10-05-2008, 01:23 PM
I installed my MLK's yesterday and I have 200 w running to each set from a bridged Orion 4 channel amp. I am very impressed to say the least. I believe the speakers have quite a bit of midbass but the 200 watts is Massive loosely-regulated MOSFET power supply so hopefully the comps are getting 200+ watts.

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bamaboy
10-05-2008, 01:27 PM
lots of deadening and looks like mid is sealed good, let them break in for a bit and they will sound a good bit better, mlk's are awsome speakers

where are the tweeters mounted at? pics?

mannyahles
10-05-2008, 07:54 PM
The tundra came with the JBL system (crap) but they have a spot for them on top of the door near the pillar aimed at the middle of the truck. I used the MLK's plastic bracket and hot glued the tweets in. I can take a picture next time I'm out there!