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bjfish11
01-14-2008, 08:52 PM
This box is off to a slow start.... if you dont know what project Im talking about, here is a thread about it http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=282423

Got started on this box Friday, cutting all the panels, except the bracing. Spent a little time working on the dual flare, and just couldnt get it to work. I went back to the drawing board, and tonight, got the correct spacing on the kerfs. Hopefully Chris will be able to redesign the flares with the new info.

But here is a couple pics of what I have thus far.

This should be a pretty cool build in the end....

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson001.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson002.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson003.jpg


BTW, so far in the build, I have used nearly 4 FULL sheets of Trupan. This **** thing is going to be HEAVY. I have already collected some extra hands for the assembly. There is no way I would be able to do this on my own... LOL

SkatinBassPLaya
01-14-2008, 08:56 PM
first!!

na_rsx
01-14-2008, 08:56 PM
once again, look forward to the completed project

Beefy
01-14-2008, 09:01 PM
woah..

This should be amazing

JimJ
01-14-2008, 09:03 PM
Tuned way too high for what I'd consider musical, but it's a heck of a woodworking project :)

twisztdauthorit
01-14-2008, 09:13 PM
ill keep my eyes on this build. Cant wait to see it when its done.

jeeper07
01-14-2008, 09:14 PM
subscribed.. always love seein your work

UCF52
01-14-2008, 09:32 PM
Were the two kerfed pieces pictured for practice? I can't wait to see some more build pics, should be a pretty cool build.

nineballsafety8
01-14-2008, 09:38 PM
this is eating me alive... im still at work and can look at the pics til i get back to my room...
sorry its turning out to be a pain in the ***.

nineballsafety8
01-14-2008, 09:45 PM
Tuned way too high for what I'd consider musical, but it's a heck of a woodworking project :)

jim, coming from you (being that you are a harcore SQ guy) i will take that with a grain of salt... but just out of curiousity... what makes you say that?
It is actually tuned lower than AQ suggests.
DJ said to do 40Hz
and its tuned to 38 (i think is what IONSQL worked out after bracing)

when i originally made the design in bb6p it tuned at 35.5, but went up a little after revisions to bracing.

JimJ
01-14-2008, 09:54 PM
what makes you say that?


(being that you are a harcore SQ guy)

That makes me say that :)

I'm not a big fan of ported subwoofer boxes in the first place, and anything over 32Hz is pretty much useless to me...too much attenuation in the lower octave, and too much peakiness in the passband. Heck, at 40Hz the midbasses should be still playing confidently...

nineballsafety8
01-14-2008, 10:01 PM
lol... oh i see... your opinion is always welcome in any thread... even though sometime they only apply to you and like 15 other select few in the world...
im not sure a true sq build is even possible in a tahow anyway. it would take like 600 sq ft of second skin to even make it worth starting a build...
anyway thanks for the input

JimJ
01-14-2008, 10:04 PM
im not sure a true sq build is even possible in a tahow anyway. it would take like 600 sq ft of second skin to even make it worth starting a build...

I drive something that has more sheet metal than a Tahoe, and there's a way :) But it would involve either a center-console sub or 8's in the doors instead :D


even though sometime they only apply to you and like 15 other select few in the world...

Go to ECA, DIYMA, DIYAudio, or other places and you'll find there's more of us :)

BrianChia
01-14-2008, 10:05 PM
You will get a huge peak around 35-40 hz.

For automotive applications there is almost no way to achieve true "SQ" with a ported box unless you have tons of EQ. Even tuning "low" will give an unnatural peak near the tuning frequency while output below that is attenuated too quickly. Contrary to popular belief tuning lower won't really give better SQ. It just shifts the peak downward to lower frequencies. A sealed or 4th order bandpass will give the flattest and lowest response if designed correctly since the rolloff of a sealed box more closely complements the typical transfer function of a car.

nineballsafety8
01-14-2008, 10:09 PM
I drive something that has more sheet metal than a Tahoe, and there's a way :) But it would involve either a center-console sub or 8's in the doors instead :D



Go to ECA, DIYMA, DIYAudio, or other places and you'll find there's more of us :)

i know that... i was just giving you a hard time. i have a couple buddies back home that are all SQ gung ho... just wasnt really ever my cup of tea.

im a drummer and put a transducer on the bottom side of my throne... i have always like my internal organs massaged with my tunes.

but still needs to sound good... i have pretty high expectations for this one.

MikeyB
01-14-2008, 10:41 PM
wow this is intense, cant wait to see it finished

DB_DRAG_SPL
01-14-2008, 10:46 PM
nineball, looks like our enclosures are coming along awesome! your box is going to be f'n sick

nineballsafety8
01-14-2008, 10:50 PM
as will yours sir... seems like mine is being a little stubborn though lol

DB_DRAG_SPL
01-14-2008, 10:51 PM
as will yours sir... seems like mine is being a little stubborn though lol

Yeah but that was to be expected w/ a double kerfed wall lol. Bj will get it figured out and it will come out awesome i'm sure of it, it will be a beast!

nineballsafety8
01-14-2008, 10:56 PM
lol... thats the plan

IDSkoT
01-14-2008, 11:20 PM
I was actually wondering how you were gunna do those curved cuts. VERY VERY VERY nice job, man! Premium! A+, etc.

bjfish11
01-15-2008, 12:04 PM
Thanks guys. Im pretty confident Chris will get it all figured out for us. If not, Ill just spend some time out at the shop using the ole' trial and error till it works....

80INCHES
01-15-2008, 12:57 PM
Go to ECA, DIYMA, DIYAudio, or other places and you'll find there's more of us :)

u will find me over at eca as well
i go there for my sq needs

80

bjfish11
01-20-2008, 04:03 PM
OK, so did a little messing around with this box today. Chris sent me the revamped layout on the ports earlier this week. Used some scrap pieces to double check everything...

How did everything work out? Well, you will have to wait until later when I post pics to see it....

DB_DRAG_SPL
01-20-2008, 04:04 PM
OK, so did a little messing around with this box today. Chris sent me the revamped layout on the ports earlier this week. Used some scrap pieces to double check everything...

How did everything work out? Well, you will have to wait until later when I post pics to see it....

Can't wait!!!

jeeper07
01-20-2008, 04:04 PM
congrats.. u got me excited and then showed me NO PICS haha. cant wait to see some progress.

bjfish11
01-20-2008, 04:08 PM
congrats.. u got me excited and then showed me NO PICS haha. cant wait to see some progress.

I didnt say it worked out very good ;)

nineballsafety8
01-20-2008, 04:11 PM
got YOU excited... how do u think i feel?

bjfish11
01-20-2008, 04:48 PM
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson001-1.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson002-1.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson003-1.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson004.jpg

Things went together really nice. There are some small gaps in the end of the flare, but on a full size panel, shouldnt be a problem to get it completely tight. Just didnt really wanna spend much time on it today, because it was just really a dry run. All in all, I'm very pleased the way everything went together. As soon as the Fi box is complete, Ill get on this full force. Shouldnt take too long to get it all finished up.

nineballsafety8
01-20-2008, 04:56 PM
sounds good... i trust your skills without reservation. i know that you wouldnt let it leave the shop unless it was to your standards (which are WAY higher than pretty much any other builder i have ever seen).

bjfish11
01-20-2008, 05:00 PM
sounds good... i trust your skills without reservation. i know that you wouldnt let it leave the shop unless it was to your standards (which are WAY higher than pretty much any other builder i have ever seen).

Yea I definitely dont want a sub par box floating around out there with my name on it.... LOL.

Although I have seen a few boxes for sale on some forums, that claim I built them... :laugh:

nineballsafety8
01-20-2008, 05:09 PM
thats funny... immation is the highest form of flattering in my opinion... there is truly only one BJ Fisher!!!

bjfish11
01-20-2008, 05:41 PM
thats funny... immation is the highest form of flattering in my opinion... there is truly only one BJ Fisher!!!

LOL, I suppose your right.... :laugh:

bjfish11
01-23-2008, 12:29 PM
Little update... but no pics. Last night, while I was waiting on some paint to dry on the Fi Box, got most of the flares kerfed. Its looking pretty ****.... ;)

WhoSayWho?
01-23-2008, 12:36 PM
Yea I definitely dont want a sub par box floating around out there with my name on it.... LOL.

Although I have seen a few boxes for sale on some forums, that claim I built them... :laugh:

And one scammer (MIKE DRESSURE) who tried to sell me a "Fisher box."

nineballsafety8
01-23-2008, 01:09 PM
glad to hear that it is turning out well.

bjfish11
01-23-2008, 04:58 PM
And one scammer (MIKE DRESSURE) who tried to sell me a "Fisher box."

He was one of them... LOL


glad to hear that it is turning out well.

Yep, so far so good. *Knocks on wood*

nineballsafety8
01-23-2008, 05:39 PM
bj... if its not too much trouble, try to snap a couple of pics of the flares while your out working on the fi box.

bjfish11
01-23-2008, 06:32 PM
Ill see what I can do for you man ;)

bjfish11
01-23-2008, 09:00 PM
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson005.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson006.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson008.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson009.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson010.jpg

nineballsafety8
01-23-2008, 09:29 PM
i hate knowing there are pictures right in front of my face and i cant see them... web blocers at work ****!!!! web blocker ftmfl!
bjfish though... ftmfw!

bjfish11
01-23-2008, 09:38 PM
i hate knowing there are pictures right in front of my face and i cant see them... web blocers at work ****!!!! web blocker ftmfl!
bjfish though... ftmfw!

LOL, that *****.... I was wondering why it was taking you so long to respond... ;)

nineballsafety8
01-23-2008, 09:41 PM
yeah, it ***** not being able to see what you know is there

andrewmoore13
01-23-2008, 09:50 PM
haha thats ironic. i feel for you man. they look sick though!

nineballsafety8
01-23-2008, 09:52 PM
thanks for the insight lol... wish i could see for myself

bjfish11
01-23-2008, 09:53 PM
thanks for the insight lol... wish i could see for myself

When you gonna be able to check it out?

nineballsafety8
01-23-2008, 09:55 PM
midnight your time or there abouts

bjfish11
01-23-2008, 09:58 PM
midnight your time or there abouts

Ouch... well only 3 more hours...

nineballsafety8
01-23-2008, 11:49 PM
alright... got a chance to sneek of to my room and take a peek... all i can say is wow. you never cease to amaze me... i cant wait to see how the second kerfed baffle goes on... is going to be SICK!!! i get excited all over again everytime you post up pics of the progress... A+ sir

Wkbdkid
01-24-2008, 12:26 AM
**** those cuts look deep. About how deep are they? An the first kerf looks bitchin.

bjfish11
01-24-2008, 12:17 PM
**** those cuts look deep. About how deep are they? An the first kerf looks bitchin.

They are about 1/16" of an inch from being all the way through...

shortyg83
01-24-2008, 03:43 PM
I cant wait for this box to be done................................




































So you can start mine ;)
Keep up the great work

nineballsafety8
01-24-2008, 03:55 PM
dont rush the master... excellence takes time

shortyg83
01-24-2008, 04:17 PM
dont rush the master... excellence takes time

ohhh what a **** up lol j/k

Wkbdkid
01-24-2008, 05:20 PM
They are about 1/16" of an inch from being all the way through...
**** Id be scared thatd it'd break on me.lol. Props to you.

bjfish11
01-24-2008, 05:20 PM
**** Id be scared thatd it'd break on me.lol. Props to you.

It actually breaks easier if you dont go deep enough.... Believe it or not...

nineballsafety8
01-24-2008, 05:24 PM
are you serious? have you seen the design? you would have to drop that thing off the empire state building to even make a dent in it... the key to kerfing is rebonding the cuts after you make the bend... they arent just left like that... u fill the gaps with a permiating bonding agent in this case wood glue). this actually makes the area being kerfed stronger than the wood around it. the mdf (trupan in this case) soaks up the glue with capillary action and when the glue dries makes the wood stronger than it was in its original state.

nineballsafety8
01-24-2008, 05:28 PM
bj, feel free to jump in if i didnt cover that well enough

stuckinok
01-24-2008, 05:37 PM
hey nineball where are you station in texas...ft hood?

nineballsafety8
01-24-2008, 05:42 PM
yep

Wkbdkid
01-24-2008, 05:43 PM
are you serious? have you seen the design? you would have to drop that thing off the empire state building to even make a dent in it... the key to kerfing is rebonding the cuts after you make the bend... they arent just left like that... u fill the gaps with a permiating bonding agent in this case wood glue). this actually makes the area being kerfed stronger than the wood around it. the mdf (trupan in this case) soaks up the glue with capillary action and when the glue dries makes the wood stronger than it was in its original state.
I know that you fill in the gaps in the kerf once done. I was jus saying thatd Id be hesitant to bend it too much an it snaps on me.

nineballsafety8
01-24-2008, 05:48 PM
ahhh i see... well my misunderstanding. sorry

Wkbdkid
01-24-2008, 05:53 PM
ahhh i see... well my misunderstanding. sorry
Its all good, thanks though. Should be a ****** setup when completed.G/L

nineballsafety8
01-24-2008, 05:56 PM
indead it should, thanx

stuckinok
01-24-2008, 05:56 PM
yep

ah i see. I do alot of TDY to Ft. Hood and i d love to check this thing out when ya get back.

nineballsafety8
01-24-2008, 06:02 PM
could be arranged

bjfish11
01-24-2008, 07:23 PM
Jay, you pretty much nailed it on the head with your explaination.

Also, Ill have an update with pics later tonight...

nineballsafety8
01-24-2008, 07:35 PM
ahhh the madness. thank god i am going to the gym later, i will get a chance to take a peek. a little less suspense tonight. thanks bj.

bjfish11
01-24-2008, 08:19 PM
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson011.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson012.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson013.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson014.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson015.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson016.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson017.jpg

bjfish11
01-24-2008, 08:20 PM
Didnt get a whole lot done tonight. Got the inner flare put in on one side, Then got all the bracing cut for one side, that took FOREVER...

nineballsafety8
01-24-2008, 08:23 PM
lol, i bet it did. i just love what chris came up with for the bracing... like 100x better than my original idea. but it definately added a few man hours on your end.

nineballsafety8
01-24-2008, 08:23 PM
i should be able to take a look at them in about an hour or so... i will let you know when i get a chance

Supergumby5000
01-24-2008, 08:24 PM
dang bjfish, i wish you lived around me! My next box is gonna prolly have to be built in the truck because i dont think my design will slide in, and i could use some of that skill!

bjfish11
01-24-2008, 08:24 PM
Yea the bracing looks pretty cool too. And it should be pretty **** stout...

bjfish11
01-24-2008, 08:25 PM
dang bjfish, i wish you lived around me! My next box is gonna prolly have to be built in the truck because i dont think my design will slide in, and i could use some of that skill!

Road Trip? LOL

nineballsafety8
01-24-2008, 08:27 PM
if i was still in country i would be road trippin to pickup the monster but... logistics are a biiotch.

nineballsafety8
01-24-2008, 08:29 PM
and just out of curiosity... braces done with the jigsaw?

bjfish11
01-24-2008, 08:29 PM
and just out of curiosity... braces done with the jigsaw?

Of course not... ;) Flush trim bit FTW

nineballsafety8
01-24-2008, 08:31 PM
whew... i was gonna say. i know your a madman, but that would just be ridonkulous!!!!

bjfish11
01-24-2008, 08:31 PM
whew... i was gonna say. i know your a madman, but that would just be ridonkulous!!!!

Yea, it would have either taken for ever with a jigsaw, or looked like ****... LOL

nineballsafety8
01-24-2008, 08:33 PM
lol... alright well i am off to the gym, after i change clothes i will check out the pics, be back in about an hour and a half.

60ndown
01-24-2008, 08:37 PM
Yea, it would have taken for ever with a jigsaw, and looked like ****... LOL

fixed

bjfish11
01-24-2008, 08:40 PM
fixed

Im not thaaaat bad with a jig saw.... ;)

nineballsafety8
01-24-2008, 09:59 PM
just looked at the pics and again, as usually, i am nothing but amazed. every penny i spent on this box was way more than worth it... try not to let anybody splooj on mine K? lol

DB_DRAG_SPL
01-25-2008, 12:48 AM
just looked at the pics and again, as usually, i am nothing but amazed. every penny i spent on this box was way more than worth it... try not to let anybody splooj on mine K? lol

I totally agree with you there nineball, worth EVERY SINGLE CENT I paid! Unfortunately someone already splooged on mine:crap:

BTW, BJ, Nineball and my enclosures better make your website!

nineballsafety8
01-25-2008, 02:04 AM
yeah X2 on the website cameo

bjfish11
01-25-2008, 10:02 AM
just looked at the pics and again, as usually, i am nothing but amazed. every penny i spent on this box was way more than worth it... try not to let anybody splooj on mine K? lol

Ill see what I can do about that... :laugh:


I totally agree with you there nineball, worth EVERY SINGLE CENT I paid! Unfortunately someone already splooged on mine:crap:

BTW, BJ, Nineball and my enclosures better make your website!

Ill try. I have no idea how to update the site, so it kinda just gets done when one of my buddies gets time...

hempy
01-25-2008, 10:25 AM
Of course not... ;) Flush trim bit FTW

Do you use those plastic templates or do you just measure out and clamp a straight edge?

bjfish11
01-25-2008, 12:30 PM
Usually I brad nail some scrap pieces to the panel...

ThatChevyGuy
01-25-2008, 12:32 PM
looks great so far.

nineballsafety8
01-25-2008, 02:06 PM
i just got an email from my dad... 2 AQ boxes showed up at his door today... here are a couple of pics...

www.pgf.net/jaybox

not the best pics, but he tried...

Supergumby5000
01-25-2008, 02:13 PM
yummy

ssj2xxgotenxx
01-25-2008, 04:20 PM
Yea I definitely dont want a sub par box floating around out there with my name on it.... LOL.

Although I have seen a few boxes for sale on some forums, that claim I built them... :laugh:

I wish everyone thought the way you did. I'd like to call myself a perfectionist for everything I do. Heck, you should see how I fold my laundry. It really makes me sad when I see people with half assed installs, poorly built boxes, etc. Good work as usual, especially the bracing. Thumbs up.

na_rsx
01-25-2008, 05:01 PM
i just got an email from my dad... 2 AQ boxes showed up at his door today... here are a couple of pics...

www.pgf.net/jaybox

not the best pics, but he tried...

YUM!!!! lol

on a serious note, them subs look dangerous, cant wait to see them in the box and wanging!!!

bjfish11
01-25-2008, 05:15 PM
Subs look very **** man.

nineballsafety8
01-25-2008, 05:20 PM
i agree. should make the kiddies giggle. and the girlies tingle LOL

bjfish11
01-25-2008, 05:23 PM
Hopefully it doesnt go the other way around though....

nineballsafety8
01-25-2008, 05:24 PM
lol... yeah i hope so

DB_DRAG_SPL
01-25-2008, 08:47 PM
Hopefully it doesnt go the other way around though....

HAHAHAHAHA.....Breathe.......HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

nineballsafety8
01-25-2008, 09:39 PM
lmao... yeah pretty much

bass maniak
01-25-2008, 09:51 PM
Sweet enclosure. Cant wait to see it when shes done.

nineballsafety8
01-28-2008, 12:07 PM
bj, any updates from this weekend?

mlstrass
01-28-2008, 12:52 PM
I would have foregone the double panels all around and just used the window bracing as that adds MUCH more strength. With that said I built my HT 10cube boxes the same way, doubled up and window bracing and those puppies are HEAVY!!!

Very nice build as always. BJ takes pride in his work and it shows....

bjfish11
01-28-2008, 02:32 PM
bj, any updates from this weekend?

No updates this weekend. I have been taking the weekends off lately. Gives me time to rest and take care of other stuff.... as well as have a little fun ;)

Should have some updates for you tonight though.

nineballsafety8
01-28-2008, 02:43 PM
sounds good man... thanks

bjfish11
01-28-2008, 08:05 PM
Got a little more done tonight. They guy that was gonna give me an extra pair of hands for the other flair wasnt able to make it tonight. So hopefully tomorrow, I can get that part knocked out. Then it should go together pretty quickly...

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson018.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson019.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson020.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson021.jpg

nineballsafety8
01-28-2008, 08:59 PM
BIG stupid grin!!! and i dont know what you did differently with the pictures this time, but i can see them from work on this set.

RAM_Designs
01-28-2008, 09:02 PM
hey fisher, do you have a cnc machine?

bjfish11
01-28-2008, 09:07 PM
BIG stupid grin!!! and i dont know what you did differently with the pictures this time, but i can see them from work on this set.
Hmmm... Didnt do a single thing differently.... LOL


hey fisher, do you have a cnc machine?

Nope, Why?

nineballsafety8
01-28-2008, 09:09 PM
actually... maybe they changed the setting on the filter, cause i can see all pictures now.

RAM_Designs
01-28-2008, 09:09 PM
Nope, Why?

Just wondering, since you do quite a bit of work...

bjfish11
01-28-2008, 09:11 PM
actually... maybe they changed the setting on the filter, cause i can see all pictures now.
Thats awesome.


Just wondering, since you do quite a bit of work...
Oh gotcha. I sure wish I had one, would definitely make things easier.... Just wish I could afford one.... this is just a part time gig for a little extra cash, cant really bring myself to drop that kind of cash.

RAM_Designs
01-28-2008, 09:12 PM
Oh gotcha. I sure wish I had one, would definitely make things easier.... Just wish I could afford one.... this is just a part time gig for a little extra cash, cant really bring myself to drop that kind of cash.

what's your day job?

nineballsafety8
01-28-2008, 09:13 PM
have you priced one... i dont even know what they run?

bjfish11
01-28-2008, 09:15 PM
what's your day job?

I build commercial airplanes. Air Capital of the World FTW!


have you priced one... i dont even know what they run?
Well, never really price out any units, but have seen some prices... and they were thousands and thousands.... (and thousands)....

nineballsafety8
01-28-2008, 09:20 PM
lol... holy collosal cash batman... yeah i think the router does just fine for the money it takes to have one.

bjfish11
01-28-2008, 09:36 PM
Yea just did a quick little google search... came to a site that would search for the type of CNC I was interested in... The cheapest price range was 5,000-9,999. The largest was 100,000+ LOL.

Ill stick to the $69 ryobi for now...

nineballsafety8
01-28-2008, 09:47 PM
yeah i would too.

OoMesKoO
01-29-2008, 07:22 PM
wow. That is unbelieveable.

I want to see the truck! I got a Tahoe myself!

bjfish11
01-29-2008, 07:23 PM
My extra pair of hands is scheduled to show up tomorrow... so the plan is... get the other flare taken care of. Then hopefully knock it out the rest of the week....

nineballsafety8
01-29-2008, 07:32 PM
good news my friend... good news

nineballsafety8
01-29-2008, 07:44 PM
wow. That is unbelieveable.

I want to see the truck! I got a Tahoe myself!

26501835

the only picture i have right now... im in iraq and the truck is in IL

Sier-ESK
01-30-2008, 12:09 AM
26501835

the only picture i have right now... im in iraq and the truck is in IL

man I know that feeling

Been there done that....

1x Iraq Vet

getting ready for a trip to afghanistan

lostdaytomorrow
01-30-2008, 12:17 AM
26501835

the only picture i have right now... im in iraq and the truck is in IL
Keep your head down brother. Thanks for your service.

nineballsafety8
01-30-2008, 12:25 AM
no problem... thats what i get payed for. much love

MemphisCherokee
01-30-2008, 03:52 PM
so, bj, how exactly do you make your braces?
edge guided router?

Audiowerks
01-30-2008, 04:23 PM
Sounds like Bj's gonna get some progress made on this one!! Can't wait to see it done nineball!

bjfish11
01-30-2008, 04:57 PM
so, bj, how exactly do you make your braces?
edge guided router?

Router, flush trim bit, brad nailer and some scrap material.

bjfish11
01-30-2008, 08:48 PM
Well my helper couldnt show up tonight. He decided that the KU vs. K State game was more important.... LOL.

nineballsafety8
01-31-2008, 01:32 AM
bj, its cool man... out network just crashed HARD!!! so i will only be able to check progress from my room after you have long since been asleep. so if you need anything, or have questions or whatever just email me. hopefully we can get it back up pretty soon. but i will be checking the status in my room every chance i get.

nineballsafety8
02-02-2008, 02:29 AM
bj, no progress?

bjfish11
02-02-2008, 11:28 AM
Still no show on the help. He has had some things he has been dealing with lately. I didnt party hard last night, because I want to make some big progress on this box this weekend. Stay tuned.

bjfish11
02-02-2008, 05:45 PM
Finally got some help today and got the second outside flare assembled. From here, it should go pretty smoothly. Next, Ill do the inner flare and bracing on this side, to make it look like the other. Then, its just a little more assembly, paint, and carpet.

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson023.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson024.jpg

duece212
02-02-2008, 05:46 PM
dood that is a work of art. I'm sure there will be a ton of time in the box when its done.

bjfish11
02-02-2008, 05:52 PM
dood that is a work of art. I'm sure there will be a ton of time in the box when its done.

Yea, there is already a lot of time in this box, but Id say the majority of it was in the "R & D" stage. Just figuring out the spacing on the flares was really tough, but once we got that all straight, it has gone together smoothly. Id say the hard part is over really....

nineballsafety8
02-02-2008, 06:10 PM
we finally got the network running again, but unfortunately i cant see the pics again... i will look at them tonight. glad to here it is still going well

bjfish11
02-02-2008, 06:12 PM
we finally got the network running again, but unfortunately i cant see the pics again... i will look at them tonight. glad to here it is still going well

Sounds good man. Im glad I was able to get back to this one. It takes up a lot of space in the shop... and it's not the easiest thing to move around.... LOL

nineballsafety8
02-02-2008, 06:14 PM
lol... yeah i bet.

nineballsafety8
02-04-2008, 12:56 PM
i get so excited everytime i log on here, in hopes that there will be new updates... but good things come to those that wait... just checkin for updates.

bjfish11
02-04-2008, 02:30 PM
Yea, didnt work yesterday because of the super bowl. Even I need some days off now and again, LOL. Should get a decent amount done on it tonight for you.

nineballsafety8
02-04-2008, 02:43 PM
i still cant believe the giants pulled a win out of their a$$, bastards... i really didnt care what happened after Green Bay got knocked out. but atleast the championship stayed in the NFC.

anyway, thanks man. good luck on tonight, hope it goes well.

bjfish11
02-04-2008, 08:51 PM
Tonight, I got the second inner flare put in, as well as all the bracing cut. Should go together pretty quick now...

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson025.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson026.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson027.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson028.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson029.jpg

PSturmer
02-04-2008, 09:14 PM
very very nice craftsmanship. i see you got that double layered flair mastered. i do not like the design though. all the bracing and the double layering is excessive. a lot of hours went into this box.... now all you need to finish it off is 3 layers of resin:)

bjfish11
02-04-2008, 09:26 PM
very very nice craftsmanship. i see you got that double layered flair mastered. i do not like the design though. all the bracing and the double layering is excessive. a lot of hours went into this box.... now all you need to finish it off is 3 layers of resin:)

Thanks, I wouldnt say Ive go the double flare mastered... I still have no idea how to calculate it... LOL.

As for the design, I know its excessive. Jay knows this as well. Nothing wrong with overkill. IMO, we would have been fine with single layer, double baffle, and the bracing we used. But why be normal? ;)

As far as resin.... I dont see how it adds any strength whatsoever... All I think it would do, is seal it up. But layers of resin, over flat areas, do nothing for structure.

PSturmer
02-04-2008, 09:35 PM
Thanks, I wouldnt say Ive go the double flare mastered... I still have no idea how to calculate it... LOL.

As for the design, I know its excessive. Jay knows this as well. Nothing wrong with overkill. IMO, we would have been fine with single layer, double baffle, and the bracing we used. But why be normal? ;)

As far as resin.... I dont see how it adds any strength whatsoever... All I think it would do, is seal it up. But layers of resin, over flat areas, do nothing for structure.

not if you mix something into the resin ;)

as far as calculating the flares..... Theta * Radius = Arc Length......it can get very close but not perfect because the flare is not perfectly round. maybe when i am bored i will come up with a more accurate formula for 1/8'' table saw blades.

nineballsafety8
02-04-2008, 10:04 PM
Thanks, I wouldnt say Ive go the double flare mastered... I still have no idea how to calculate it... LOL.

As for the design, I know its excessive. Jay knows this as well. Nothing wrong with overkill. IMO, we would have been fine with single layer, double baffle, and the bracing we used. But why be normal? ;)

As far as resin.... I dont see how it adds any strength whatsoever... All I think it would do, is seal it up. But layers of resin, over flat areas, do nothing for structure.

well said my friend... resin just isnt my thing. and if i wanted a box that was "typical" i would have got a hold of Mark Potts and had him overcharge me an arm and a leg for a far inferior design. I chose BJ because his work is as Damm close to perfect as i have ever seen, and he is willing to do WHATEVER the customer asks for... he is the epitome of a good business man.

Audiowerks
02-04-2008, 11:46 PM
well said my friend... resin just isnt my thing. and if i wanted a box that was "typical" i would have got a hold of Mark Potts and had him overcharge me an arm and a leg for a far inferior design. I chose BJ because his work is as Damm close to perfect as i have ever seen, and he is willing to do WHATEVER the customer asks for... he is the epitome of a good business man.

EXACTLY. Alot of designers would have said "F You" to the idea of the logo brace on my box, and the sheer idea of Nineball's box, but BJ took the idea and ran with it and made a better enclosure that ANYONE else could have. I will NEVER do business with other than BJ Fisher and the Fisher Customs crew EVER again.

Immacomputer
02-05-2008, 12:22 AM
not if you mix something into the resin ;)

as far as calculating the flares..... Theta * Radius = Arc Length......it can get very close but not perfect because the flare is not perfectly round. maybe when i am bored i will come up with a more accurate formula for 1/8'' table saw blades.

No need to calculate it when you can draw it. If you take the outside edge and run it to the center of the circle that the flare is a part of, you can get the spacing. All you really need to know is that 10 cuts will get you 90*.

nineballsafety8
02-05-2008, 12:27 AM
EXACTLY. Alot of designers would have said "F You" to the idea of the logo brace on my box, and the sheer idea of Nineball's box, but BJ took the idea and ran with it and made a better enclosure that ANYONE else could have. I will NEVER do business with other than BJ Fisher and the Fisher Customs crew EVER again.

my thoughts exactly... and the prices that BJ asks are WAY MORE than reasonable!!!

60ndown
02-05-2008, 12:36 AM
waaaaaaaaaaay too much work for some bump, nicely done work;), but wayyy to much cutting and measuring and glueing and .....................when a straigh ahead ported box woulda done,

imo :)


you know how it goes, 3 weeks after its all installed it will be swapped out for some funky pups.

bdawson72
02-05-2008, 12:40 AM
Bj is possibly be one of the best boxbuilders that I've seen on many forums.

But some of you guys are nut riding entirely too hard.

nineballsafety8
02-05-2008, 12:42 AM
find me equal work for equal money spent and i will give just as many props...

respect given where respect is due

bdawson72
02-05-2008, 12:43 AM
find me equal work for equal money spent and i will give just as many props...

respect given where respect is due

Indeed.

The man does do good work.

Pop da Hatch
02-05-2008, 12:44 AM
:veryhapp:

PSturmer
02-05-2008, 09:12 AM
find me equal work for equal money spent and i will give just as many props...

respect given where respect is due

i'd take my work over any one else's. thats how i get a sense of accomplishment..... instead of just giving my money to someone

bjfish11
02-05-2008, 10:01 AM
i'd take my work over any one else's. thats how i get a sense of accomplishment..... instead of just giving my money to someone

Sometimes DIY just isnt possible. A lot of people I build for, dont have the time, or tools, or quite honestly the skills. Nothing wrong with paying someone else to do it if you cant. Not your average Joe can build a box similar to this...

nitro_freak1
02-05-2008, 10:25 AM
tried contacting you threw the website but no luck so i sent you a PM> thanks.

Immacomputer
02-05-2008, 10:51 AM
Sometimes DIY just isnt possible. A lot of people I build for, dont have the time, or tools, or quite honestly the skills. Nothing wrong with paying someone else to do it if you cant. Not your average Joe can build a box similar to this...

You're right that there is nothing wrong with having somebody else do it but it's not as fun. I enjoy building stuff and do so many times just for the pleasure of it. I just recently built a box because I had extra wood and free time. That was me "relaxing" on the weekend.

But if I was going to pay somebody to do the work, you would definitely be the first person I would contact... Thumper being second but the whole Canada thing makes that unrealistic.

THUMPPER
02-05-2008, 02:28 PM
You're right that there is nothing wrong with having somebody else do it but it's not as fun. I enjoy building stuff and do so many times just for the pleasure of it. I just recently built a box because I had extra wood and free time. That was me "relaxing" on the weekend.

But if I was going to pay somebody to do the work, you would definitely be the first person I would contact... Thumper being second but the whole Canada thing makes that unrealistic.


being in Canada my shipping costs are a little more but about
90% of my boxes still go to the US

audiobahnuser18
02-05-2008, 02:32 PM
Bj every single time man you never fail at any enclosure building at all. very nice work man keep it up. what do you think he will hit in number's with that enclosure?

bjfish11
02-05-2008, 02:36 PM
tried contacting you threw the website but no luck so i sent you a PM> thanks.

Sorry man, My email has pretty much ****** as of late. Im missing emails, and ones I send arent always going through. Im trying to get it fixed. Ill get back to your pm later. Thanks for your patience.


You're right that there is nothing wrong with having somebody else do it but it's not as fun. I enjoy building stuff and do so many times just for the pleasure of it. I just recently built a box because I had extra wood and free time. That was me "relaxing" on the weekend.

But if I was going to pay somebody to do the work, you would definitely be the first person I would contact... Thumper being second but the whole Canada thing makes that unrealistic.

I agree, I enjoy building as well (obviously), but not everyone does... Thats where us builders come in...



Bj every single time man you never fail at any enclosure building at all. very nice work man keep it up. what do you think he will hit in number's with that enclosure?


Thanks man. I have no idea what it will hit. I have 0 experiece with a TL.

nineballsafety8
02-05-2008, 02:46 PM
depending on which power i end up actually running, i am expecting low 50's on music and mid 50's on tones. at round 38Hz

nineballsafety8
02-05-2008, 02:47 PM
i know have a colossus, an hk4000d, and in 3 weeks when AQ releases the 2200's i am getting a pair of those.
just going to try some different variations and see what works out the best.

bjfish11
02-05-2008, 08:07 PM
Small update tonight. Got the bracing put in the second chamber, as well as the sides put in there as well.

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson030.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson031.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson032.jpg

pioneerpimp
02-05-2008, 08:14 PM
way tooo much work

bjfish11
02-05-2008, 08:21 PM
way tooo much work

Yes thats been pointed out a time or two already....

I wouldnt say tooo much work, but a lot of work. ;)

nineballsafety8
02-05-2008, 08:21 PM
lookin good BJ... i imagine you are probably getting pretty sick of this thing being in the way of the rest of the stuff in your shop LOL. looks great.

nineballsafety8
02-05-2008, 08:22 PM
hey, pioneerpimp... did you ever read through the post i made on your wall tip thread? i just wondered if that helped at all?

bjfish11
02-05-2008, 08:23 PM
lookin good BJ... i imagine you are probably getting pretty sick of this thing being in the way of the rest of the stuff in your shop LOL. looks great.

Yea I have no choice but to work on this project. Its in the way of everything.... LOL. Definitely a fun box to build though. Something different, something you dont get to do everyday...

nineballsafety8
02-05-2008, 08:27 PM
i just cant wait to see how it performs... excitement doesnt quite cover it.

Pop da Hatch
02-05-2008, 11:27 PM
So this is being picked up obviously? Looks like the hard part is behind you. Nice work ;)

bjfish11
02-06-2008, 05:54 AM
So this is being picked up obviously? Looks like the hard part is behind you. Nice work ;)

Nope, roadway freight most likely. ;)

iamamp3pimp
02-06-2008, 07:28 AM
you have to crate it?

bjfish11
02-06-2008, 07:59 AM
you have to crate it?

Probably going to just put it on a pallet and wrap it up real well. Ill have to check into the requirements from Roadway.

nineballsafety8
02-06-2008, 07:11 PM
wish i could pick it up... i would like to get a chance to meet bj, but i doubt that he wants it sitting around the shop til april or may (thats when i go home on r&r)... so it will be shipped.

Audiowerks
02-06-2008, 07:37 PM
Hey nineball, if you're interested once you've done your damage to the HDC3's, I can hook you up with some DC Sounds 15's level 4 or 5's, and for a price you CAN'T beat :up2somet:

nineballsafety8
02-06-2008, 07:46 PM
link? i will take a look at them.

nineballsafety8
02-06-2008, 07:59 PM
i just googled them... and DAMM SON, those things look SICK. i would have to go with the level 5's though and am kinda wondering if they fall into the "get loud as sheet, but arent built to sound that good" category.
if you have played with any of the level 5's let me know what you think of them, and shoot me a PM with a price.

bjfish11
02-06-2008, 09:01 PM
wish i could pick it up... i would like to get a chance to meet bj, but i doubt that he wants it sitting around the shop til april or may (thats when i go home on r&r)... so it will be shipped.

LOL, Well I could use it as a coffee table for the next couple months....




After working tonight.... I have some good news. and some bad news.... :crap:

nineballsafety8
02-06-2008, 09:17 PM
hit me with the bad news first.

bdawson72
02-06-2008, 09:18 PM
:crap:

bjfish11
02-06-2008, 09:20 PM
hit me with the bad news first.

Well... the bad news.... I didnt get it quite all the way finished yet... :crap:

nineballsafety8
02-06-2008, 09:25 PM
well thats not that bad... you made it sound like something went wrong.

whats the good news?

bjfish11
02-06-2008, 09:30 PM
well thats not that bad... you made it sound like something went wrong.

whats the good news?

I got pretty **** close.... LOL. Wanted to stir the pot a little... Gotta have some fun.

Pretty much finished with the actual build aspect of it. Got it completely assembled except for the second bottom panel. Then just gotta sand it, and wrap it in carpet. Its pretty **** heavy (go figure) and nearly impossible to move around by myself. Ill get it on a scale tomorrow.... LOL

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson033.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson034.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson035.jpg
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http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson037.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson038.jpg
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http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson040.jpg

nineballsafety8
02-06-2008, 09:36 PM
OH MY FREAKING GOD!!!! THAT IS THE SEXIEST THING I HAVE SEEN SINCE I GOT FLASHED BY A DRUNKEN LINDSEY LOHAN (not really, but that would have been cool).
but seriously, that is AWESOME!!!

nineballsafety8
02-06-2008, 10:12 PM
i have made some small changes to what i am doing in the install...
getting another kinetik 2400, so there will be 3 2400's and an 1800 up front.
getting 2 of the AQ 2200's to run the subs. (the hk4000d is going in my wifes explorer)
and probably not going to install the 10Kd unless i go to competions (im running out of places to put shet)

Audiowerks
02-06-2008, 10:23 PM
nineball, YGPM

Pop da Hatch
02-07-2008, 12:36 AM
:woot:

iamamp3pimp
02-07-2008, 06:29 AM
can you om me what you paid for that?

im just curious, it looks expensive.

nineballsafety8
02-07-2008, 06:48 AM
you will have to ask BJ, i dont know if he wants his prices out there like that.

iamamp3pimp
02-07-2008, 07:51 AM
he mentioned to ask you.

besides, his prices are listed on his website

iamamp3pimp
02-07-2008, 07:52 AM
but if you dont want to say, i respect that

my guess is around 400-500, not incl shipping

bjfish11
02-07-2008, 10:01 AM
Yea I dont mind my pricing out, as long as the customer doesnt care. So its your call Jay. Robin, you were very close. ;)

iamamp3pimp
02-07-2008, 11:12 AM
im saying, thats about what id charge, saying that i had the ab ility to do what you have done w this so far.....but i dont.

it looks really good btw

nineballsafety8
02-07-2008, 01:23 PM
iamamp3pmp you got a PM

bjfish11
02-07-2008, 02:40 PM
Think this will get as many views as the AudioWerks box did? LOL

nineballsafety8
02-07-2008, 02:51 PM
not sure... i doubt it 11K is a big number... and this one is less cosmetic, and is appreciated by a small niche group of people.
but 7K is still some pretty **** good numbers so far.

iamamp3pimp
02-07-2008, 03:33 PM
who?

nineballsafety8
02-07-2008, 03:38 PM
the box with the fi logo for audiowerks.

bjfish11
02-07-2008, 08:52 PM
Well this beast is finally ready for carpet...

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson041.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson042.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson043.jpg

nineballsafety8
02-07-2008, 08:59 PM
B.E.A.U.tiful... nice work BJ... almost there.

bjfish11
02-08-2008, 08:00 AM
Robin, this is what he speaks of... http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=284556

Jay, glad your liking it. Getting really close ;)

Audiowerks
02-08-2008, 10:04 AM
Awesome, can't wait to see some carpet on this monster!

bjfish11
02-08-2008, 10:07 AM
LOL yea, maybe today, just depends on when I get off work. I think its only going to need like 30 yards or so...

Audiowerks
02-08-2008, 10:08 AM
LOL yea, maybe today, just depends on when I get off work. I think its only going to need like 30 yards or so...

:laugh::crazy::eek:

nineballsafety8
02-08-2008, 01:31 PM
LMAO!!! could u imagine trying to vinyl that bish? that would be madness.

bjfish11
02-08-2008, 04:15 PM
Speaking of vinyl... I really need to give that a try sometime...

adas
02-08-2008, 04:24 PM
That box would withstand a small explosion inside without even flexing.....:laugh:

Unnessesarily beatiful box, inside and out:veryhapp:

nineballsafety8
02-08-2008, 05:14 PM
vinyl is a HUGE pain in the ***. i think its easier to body fill, prime, and paint a box... i phuckin hate stretchin vinyl!!!

bjfish11
02-08-2008, 05:49 PM
Yea, I have heard its a PITA, but I get quite a few requests for it...

nineballsafety8
02-08-2008, 06:05 PM
invest in a heat gun if you dont already have one. and stock up the fridge with some beer LOL...

PSturmer
02-08-2008, 07:31 PM
vinyl is a HUGE pain in the ***. i think its easier to body fill, prime, and paint a box... i phuckin hate stretchin vinyl!!!

vinyl is way easier than painting. that box can be vinyled in 4 hours doing a very good job. painting would take much longer. vinyl also covers up any imperfections. with good quality vinyl even screw holes do not need to be filled in.

nineballsafety8
02-08-2008, 07:46 PM
thats the problem i had though... the shop i worked at was too cheap to by any decent vinyl, so try to get it flat when its supposed to be flat and around corners when they were there ****** BALLS!
but hey if you like vinyl, more power to ya

THUMPPER
02-08-2008, 08:35 PM
the first 2 or 3 boxes I put vinyl on was a pain
now after 100+ it's easy..I even purchased a sewing
machine for the purpose:D

nineballsafety8
02-08-2008, 10:55 PM
i guess its not that it is really hard... its just frustrating, especially when you are trying to hide seams.

bjfish11
02-09-2008, 06:00 AM
Is there any good tutorials out there about applying vinyl? Anyone care to make one if there already isnt one?

nineballsafety8
02-09-2008, 06:21 PM
havent seen any, sorry

bjfish11
02-10-2008, 09:07 PM
Its finally finished!

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson044.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson045.jpg
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http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/JayFergusson048.jpg

SeanDub
02-10-2008, 09:10 PM
Nice.

KINGDELL91
02-10-2008, 09:11 PM
Wow

bjfish11
02-10-2008, 09:27 PM
;)
Thanks guys.

nineballsafety8
02-10-2008, 09:40 PM
good lord son... that is SICK... i hope my HOE doesnt cry when i cram that thing in her butt LOL

bjfish11
02-10-2008, 09:41 PM
LOL, just a guess.... but I bet you will hear a little bit of screaming. If not, there is a problem...

Pimpdaddyq
02-10-2008, 09:45 PM
very awesome box man

nineballsafety8
02-10-2008, 09:46 PM
i might have to get her drunk first LOL

nineballsafety8
02-10-2008, 09:48 PM
bj, you ever get a chance to weigh it and see how much it actually turned out to be?

PSturmer
02-10-2008, 09:51 PM
box construction was good. applying the carpet was good. but something nicer should of been used instead of the generic carpet on such a nice box.

nineballsafety8
02-10-2008, 09:52 PM
like what?

PSturmer
02-10-2008, 09:55 PM
like what?

suede or vinyl

nineballsafety8
02-10-2008, 09:58 PM
eh... i REALLY dont like vinyl, but down the road i might recover it in suede or tweed to match the interior... BJ and i decided that carpet was best for now, as i will only have a few days to get it all installed while i am home... and i didnt want to use that time up covering a box.

but it may get some "additional treatment" down the road.

60ndown
02-10-2008, 10:01 PM
i cant believe all that beautiful work is hidden by mdf and carpet :crazy::crying::crap::wow:

def shoulda had some plexi in there and a few lights

nineballsafety8
02-10-2008, 10:06 PM
i understand your point... but thats SO not my style... flashy isnt my thing... my truck doesnt have rims, or stickers... nothing.
its all about how it sounds
and the whole point of this particular install is to be able to roll up to any show and beat the pants off the locals who are paying upwards of 7K for low 150's, when i only have about 3500 invested in my whole setup.

The shop in my hometown WAY over charges and has a HUGE customer base that is just too stupid to know any better... so i enjoy making them look stupid.

60ndown
02-10-2008, 10:12 PM
i understand your point... but thats SO not my style... flashy isnt my thing... my truck doesnt have rims, or stickers... nothing.
its all about how it sounds
and the whole point of this particular install is to be able to roll up to any show and beat the pants off the locals who are paying upwards of 7K for low 150's, when i only have about 3500 invested in my whole setup.

The shop in my hometown WAY over charges and has a HUGE customer base that is just too stupid to know any better... so i enjoy making them look stupid.

:D

nineballsafety8
02-10-2008, 10:16 PM
lol... doing it with class and simplicity.
not fiberglass and LED's.

nineballsafety8
02-10-2008, 10:19 PM
although the design and execusion of construction are RETARDED... its still just a big a$$ ported box, with hefty subs, and a ton of power... not rocket science.
although a mechanical engineering degree might have made BJ's job a little easier LOL

Pop da Hatch
02-10-2008, 10:27 PM
lil spray on texture would be sweet - flat black.

nineballsafety8
02-10-2008, 10:27 PM
just noticed that IONSQL poked his head in to see the finished product...

he deserves some cred too.... he was the one the took my initial design and turned it into the monster you see before you. GOOD JOB CHRIS!

redrider13
02-10-2008, 10:27 PM
**** that is a nice box.

nineballsafety8
02-10-2008, 10:29 PM
lil spray on texture would be sweet - flat black.

thats what i did in my wife's explorer... looks sick

but i have tan interior and flat black just doesnt look right with tan. i can deal with charcoal carpet... but bedliner, or paint just doesnt seem to blend as well.

phantomtc
02-10-2008, 10:30 PM
nice box looks great have you installed it?>

nineballsafety8
02-10-2008, 10:33 PM
nice box looks great have you installed it?>

no... im in Iraq. it will go in my truck in late april or early may

phantomtc
02-10-2008, 10:35 PM
no... im in Iraq. it will go in my truck in late april or early may


cool




p.s. TY

shortyg83
02-11-2008, 09:45 AM
thats what i did in my wife's explorer... looks sick

but i have tan interior and flat black just doesnt look right with tan. i can deal with charcoal carpet... but bedliner, or paint just doesnt seem to blend as well.

I do like the carpet and all, but at home depot they do make that textured paint in tan. I would leave it like it is tho looks nice.

bjfish11
02-11-2008, 12:23 PM
I hate painting enclsoures when shipping out. It seems like it doesnt matter how good you pack it up, it always gets a couple small knicks in it. But some nice textured paint would look pretty pimp on that bad boy.

nineballsafety8
02-11-2008, 01:37 PM
bj, do we have a final weight yet?

ballstothewall
02-11-2008, 01:57 PM
although a mechanical engineering degree might have made BJ's job a little easier LOL

Not really.

*imo*

bjfish11
02-11-2008, 08:05 PM
bj, do we have a final weight yet?

I tried weighing it... didnt work out too well.... LOL.

nineballsafety8
02-11-2008, 08:07 PM
any guess?

bjfish11
02-11-2008, 08:08 PM
Heavy!

nineballsafety8
02-11-2008, 08:09 PM
lol... really? no way

hempy
02-11-2008, 08:14 PM
I tried weighing it... didnt work out too well.... LOL.

It's really easy... just weigh yourself, then weigh yourself holding it and subtract! ;):D

nineballsafety8
02-11-2008, 08:17 PM
LOL... it weighs more than he does. i think anyway... unless BJ is a lineman in the NFL LOL

bjfish11
02-11-2008, 08:22 PM
Yea, im a relatively small dude... it probably weights about twice as much as me.

nineballsafety8
02-11-2008, 08:28 PM
i could hold it to get on a scale, but im every bit of 240 and the box is 250+, so if you can find a scale that reads 500 plus then we are good to go LOL

adas
02-11-2008, 10:05 PM
a 250lb box...I mean really? lol weighs as much as some full walls do:crap::laugh:

TheFiverMan
02-11-2008, 10:08 PM
how many pieces of mdf did u use? then calculate that by 100..

PSturmer
02-11-2008, 11:45 PM
i understand your point... but thats SO not my style... flashy isnt my thing... my truck doesnt have rims, or stickers... nothing.
its all about how it sounds
and the whole point of this particular install is to be able to roll up to any show and beat the pants off the locals who are paying upwards of 7K for low 150's, when i only have about 3500 invested in my whole setup.

The shop in my hometown WAY over charges and has a HUGE customer base that is just too stupid to know any better... so i enjoy making them look stupid.

in a tahoe i doubt this system will even break a 150 legal. meade doing a daily system with 4 18's doing a 154....... and you have 1/3 the cone area and way less power.

nineballsafety8
02-12-2008, 12:00 AM
we shall see... meade also tuned to 30Hz

nineballsafety8
02-12-2008, 12:11 AM
meade also does like a 157 not a 154. and i think he has burped as high as a 58.9

and honestly i will be happy with a flat 150. (but i expect more than that)

nineballsafety8
02-12-2008, 12:35 AM
"ive touched a 158.8 at home at the dash with my windows down.....also did the same thing, touching 158's on a bassrace run (demo) with my window down at a show. Official score.....ummmm i havent competed in a long time so im not sure, but i dont really care i have too much fun doing "other" stuff at the shows, besides the lanes."
^ direct quote from Mr. Meade himself. and that is from april... and i know he has gotten louder since that... so, like i said I DONT THINK 150 WILL BE A PROBLEM.

bjfish11
02-12-2008, 06:54 AM
how many pieces of mdf did u use? then calculate that by 100..

Its not exactly that easy. You would have to calculate all the material that was trimmed out also. The sub cut outs, the cut outs for the bracing... etc. Plus Trupan only weighs like 76 lbs per sheet ;)

PSturmer
02-12-2008, 08:55 AM
meade also does like a 157 not a 154. and i think he has burped as high as a 58.9

and honestly i will be happy with a flat 150. (but i expect more than that)

i am talking about 150 legal. i think he did a 154.3 on dash. 150 outlaw is very very easy with 2 15's and your power.

iamamp3pimp
02-12-2008, 09:08 AM
i understand your point... but thats SO not my style... flashy isnt my thing... my truck doesnt have rims, or stickers... nothing.
its all about how it sounds
and the whole point of this particular install is to be able to roll up to any show and beat the pants off the locals who are paying upwards of 7K for low 150's, when i only have about 3500 invested in my whole setup.

The shop in my hometown WAY over charges and has a HUGE customer base that is just too stupid to know any better... so i enjoy making them look stupid.

i only paid 2k...

:(

meade916
02-13-2008, 03:43 PM
i am talking about 150 legal. i think he did a 154.3 on dash. 150 outlaw is very very easy with 2 15's and your power.

actually 156.5 at the dash at a DBDRAG comp and 157.4 at Usac in the kick is my highest official scores. The 158++ i did was with my windows down on a non-official bass race run at a DBDRAG comp...sorta like a little demo Doug Stockton asked me to do. Not much of a demo with the windows up :D I ended up with a 156 and some change at the end of that same bassrace run but i was touching 58's the entire time till the song stopped bumpin at the end and the score dropped like a rock (part of the song).

Since then i have done a little higher on my mic but i dont compete much anymore. Those scores are from a few years ago so i did get a little louder but more then anything i got more reliable with my new amps, subs, and beefier electrical system.

nineballsafety8
02-13-2008, 04:13 PM
actually 156.5 at the dash at a DBDRAG comp and 157.4 at Usac in the kick is my highest official scores. The 158++ i did was with my windows down on a non-official bass race run at a DBDRAG comp...sorta like a little demo Doug Stockton asked me to do. Not much of a demo with the windows up :D I ended up with a 156 and some change at the end of that same bassrace run but i was touching 58's the entire time till the song stopped bumpin at the end and the score dropped like a rock (part of the song).

Since then i have done a little higher on my mic but i dont compete much anymore. Those scores are from a few years ago so i did get a little louder but more then anything i got more reliable with my new amps, subs, and beefier electrical system.

thanks steve... nice to get some REAL information straight from the source... i went to your forum to try to get some solid factual numbers, but there is alot of stuff to sort through and had a hard time finding your latest TL numbers...

just out of curiosity, since the port on your box box is swappable, have you ever put in a higher tuned port to see how big of a difference it makes on the mic?

iamamp3pimp
02-13-2008, 05:45 PM
a 250lb box...I mean really? lol weighs as much as some full walls do:crap::laugh:

those walls ****, but then again, my wall weighs in at about that

lol, i used birch though, 38 or so pounds per sheet

nineballsafety8
10-27-2009, 07:07 PM
here is the temp box i built last weekend to hold me over til i can get the beast in the truck...

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=441398

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da box king
10-27-2009, 11:21 PM
I'm diggin the camo man.

I see yur back home now, cool

and I played with yur old hdc3s for awhile and passed them, but I see you got more now, sweet

Highs on bass
10-28-2009, 12:16 AM
well its not impossible. bot a buddy with a walled merc mountineer runnin 3 18's with only 10K sittin 157's to 158's as a daily lol

nineballsafety8
10-28-2009, 01:56 AM
I'm diggin the camo man.

I see yur back home now, cool

and I played with yur old hdc3s for awhile and passed them, but I see you got more now, sweet


yes sir, back in the states, and livin the life, moved to colorado, but as you can see, the hdc's were too much to pass on

glad u got some use out of my old ones, and thanks for the camo comment, it was a total spur of the moment idea

nineballsafety8
01-04-2011, 01:05 PM
and now im in afghanistan... what the hell... i hate this job lol