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verramente
01-12-2008, 12:49 AM
I was looking at a couple of different units and would like to know opinions comments comparissons or problems you have experienced with them.

I have no budget for the unit and I am strictly interested in sound quality.

Eclipse CD7100
Kenwood KDC-X991
Clarion DRZ9255
Denon any
Panasonic CQ-TX5500D
or any other models open to anything

So far I have morel supremo 6 and a zapco competition amp along with a morel ultimo 12 powered by another zapco amp

Etac
01-12-2008, 12:50 AM
ecplise probaly out of those... no alpine choices?

Racerx250
01-12-2008, 12:51 AM
http://www.caraudio.com/forum/search.php

mikey7182
01-12-2008, 01:01 AM
What do you want it to do besides SQ? iPod Control or no? A few Alpines that come to mind are the new CDA-9887 (which I own and love) and the older Alpine CDA-7998 (no iPod controls/dead head). Also a few of the McIntosh HUs are pretty sick, along with a the Pioneer Premier DEH-P880PRS and the DEX-1P (?) ...Can't remember if that is the model number but it has a separate outboard processor. The Clarion has gotten solid reviews. I've owned the 2 Alpines and the 880PRS I mentioned. The 7998 was my favorite of those 3. If only it had iPod controls... I may give up my iPod, who knows! :)

Hope that helps...

adam71
01-12-2008, 02:29 AM
Me personally I would never recommend Eclipse, Alpine, Clarion or Pioneer over Denon. The only problem with Denon is you have to buy them from someone used from over seas. If there is NO budget for a head unit I would direct you at these Denon units.

http://cgi.ebay.com/DENON-DCT-100_W0QQitemZ120209206943QQihZ002QQcategoryZ3293QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/DENON-DCT-A100-CAR-CD-PLAYER-RECEIVER-STEREO-DCT-A1_W0QQitemZ300189651611QQihZ020QQcategoryZ3293QQs sPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Other than those 2 models I would suggest the Clarion DRZ-9255 or the Pioneer Premier P9 combo.

None of the other units you listed match these in build quality and most of those on your list don't match the sound quality.

verramente
01-12-2008, 04:29 PM
Thanks for all of the input today I want my local shop and had the owner put a volt meter on a few units to see the preamp out put the pioneers only had a .5 volt and th alpines had 2.5volts and the eclipse had 8.1volts being the highest of all.

MBrock4u
01-12-2008, 08:32 PM
Kenwood Excelon X-990 or X991 has 5volt pre outs. Sound quality is outstanding. I have the X-990, and have been very happy with it.

Gary S
01-13-2008, 08:13 PM
The high volt output will only help lower alternator wine a little... if you have alternator wine... if you don't have noise to begin with...

tcguy85
01-13-2008, 11:07 PM
880prs

Loud3
01-13-2008, 11:09 PM
The high volt output will only help lower alternator wine a little... if you have alternator wine... if you don't have noise to begin with...




False.

spudracer326
01-13-2008, 11:23 PM
alpine 9990, pxa-h900 combo if moneys no object.....dennon and clarions drz9255 are great choices as well, pioneer p9, mcintosh mx406 are all great.....also if you are looking for a great high-end selection pm 6spdcupe, hes in your area i think and is very, very knowledgeable in high-end headunits and gear, ad has a shop that carries most of it. heres a link i think you might find useful.
http://forum.elitecaraudio.com/showthread.php?threadid=121657

youve gone as far as investing in some excelent sq speakers, so do the sae with the headunit. Though the x991, cd7100, 880 are geat headunits, I think you can do better as far as a headunit.

Trey803
01-13-2008, 11:23 PM
880

BringDaBoom
01-14-2008, 02:25 AM
I was looking at a couple of different units and would like to know opinions comments comparissons or problems you have experienced with them.

I have no budget for the unit and I am strictly interested in sound quality.

Eclipse CD7100
Kenwood KDC-X991
Clarion DRZ9255
Denon any
Panasonic CQ-TX5500D
or any other models open to anything

So far I have morel supremo 6 and a zapco competition amp along with a morel ultimo 12 powered by another zapco amp

F-1 Status. /thread. J/k. Seriously, if no budget look into the Alpine F-1

Eugenics
01-14-2008, 02:31 AM
These threads always amuse me. If you've bought that and have no clue of which HU to go with, you probably bought them from some shop. You likely decided that the HU they were going to sell you was too expensive, so you thought you'd browse the forums. If you truely have no budget, than i believe F1 is for you. If not, than slow down and do some research. I'm looking at the drz personally. however an alpine 9885 or eclipse cd3200 could be perfect for you. who knows!? what are you planning on doing with this HU. what is your actual budget? If you're willing to spend 20k i'll be more than willing to provide you with some more options. What is your actual budget? Dont say you dont have one, if you did you'd be having someone to hold your hand through it... god knows i would.

Hintzyboy
01-14-2008, 02:33 AM
That Clarion is in the classifieds for ~$500 right now

Eugenics
01-14-2008, 02:35 AM
he has no budget though, doesn't matter.

jblayz1
01-14-2008, 02:02 PM
Denon DCT-100

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e40/6spdcoupe/MyCar073.jpg

spnkysprky
01-14-2008, 02:43 PM
Just my 2 cents on 2 HU's mention...the clarion dzr9255 is great but for the price,it should at least have mp3/wma playback.I still use mp3 so thats a bummer for me and as for the Denon....of course its a great HU and Denon has always made great stuff,but sit and think about it for a moment...is the sound quality THAT MUCH BETTER than other head units to justify such a dramatic increase in cost?Even so,what are we looking at if and when we might need parts for repair or who can repair...just something you might consider before buying a HU

pik
01-14-2008, 03:53 PM
Denon DCT-100

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e40/6spdcoupe/MyCar073.jpg

that's f'n pretty!:cool:

Hintzyboy
01-14-2008, 05:52 PM
Just my 2 cents on 2 HU's mention...the clarion dzr9255 is great but for the price,it should at least have mp3/wma playback.I still use mp3 so thats a bummer for me and as for the Denon....of course its a great HU and Denon has always made great stuff,but sit and think about it for a moment...is the sound quality THAT MUCH BETTER than other head units to justify such a dramatic increase in cost?Even so,what are we looking at if and when we might need parts for repair or who can repair...just something you might consider before buying a HU

People looking for competition-level SQ decks could give a **** less about mp3 playback usually

jblayz1
01-14-2008, 08:18 PM
touché :hilariou:

adam71
01-15-2008, 01:24 AM
Just my 2 cents on 2 HU's mention...the clarion dzr9255 is great but for the price,it should at least have mp3/wma playback.I still use mp3 so thats a bummer for me and as for the Denon....of course its a great HU and Denon has always made great stuff,but sit and think about it for a moment...is the sound quality THAT MUCH BETTER than other head units to justify such a dramatic increase in cost?


People looking for competition-level SQ decks could give a **** less about mp3 playback usually

Yeah, thats kind of what I was thinking.

RAM_Designs
01-15-2008, 01:27 AM
8443 or 8053...great SQ for 200-250 bucks. I actually have an 8053 for sale if anyone is interested.

its_bacon12
01-15-2008, 01:28 AM
nakamichi cd-700ii

its_bacon12
01-15-2008, 01:31 AM
Just my 2 cents on 2 HU's mention...the clarion dzr9255 is great but for the price,it should at least have mp3/wma playback.I still use mp3 so thats a bummer for me and as for the Denon....of course its a great HU and Denon has always made great stuff,but sit and think about it for a moment...is the sound quality THAT MUCH BETTER than other head units to justify such a dramatic increase in cost?Even so,what are we looking at if and when we might need parts for repair or who can repair...just something you might consider before buying a HU


you are by no means an audiophile then :)

a real audiophile can pick night and day between a very high end unit and a budget mainstream non-dedicated SQ unit.

and besides, SQ enthusiasts do not go mp3. its compressed crappy quality and low bit rate.. CD is still the way to go

but there are outstanding SQ units for less money.. example, nakamichi has some, mine is an example. CD-300 i got brand new for $155 shipped. best sounding HU i've ever had

spnkysprky
01-15-2008, 03:18 AM
you are by no means an audiophile then :)

a real audiophile can pick night and day between a very high end unit and a budget mainstream non-dedicated SQ unit.

and besides, SQ enthusiasts do not go mp3. its compressed crappy quality and low bit rate.. CD is still the way to go

but there are outstanding SQ units for less money.. example, nakamichi has some, mine is an example. CD-300 i got brand new for $155 shipped. best sounding HU i've ever had

Oh I know what you mean..people competeting dont need mp3.I am by no means in competition.I was just talking for the average person who just wants to have a nice sounding system.Dont get me wrong,I would jump all over that if money was no object.I just wasnt sure he wanted competition grade stuff.Just because he said he had no budget.you sound like a salesman :)Thats just too much for my simple needs.Im just going with the alpine 9887.If Im going to spend that much on a deck,then Im **** sure gonna match the same high quality in components,amps,etc...As for me...I cant afford it :(Im going to stay in the $3000 range for component/subs/deck and electrical upgrades.As far as listening to MP3's...I just already have a huge collection thats all...its like when people didnt want to give up tapes lol

its_bacon12
01-15-2008, 09:07 AM
Oh I know what you mean..people competeting dont need mp3.I am by no means in competition.I was just talking for the average person who just wants to have a nice sounding system.Dont get me wrong,I would jump all over that if money was no object.I just wasnt sure he wanted competition grade stuff.Just because he said he had no budget.you sound like a salesman :)Thats just too much for my simple needs.Im just going with the alpine 9887.If Im going to spend that much on a deck,then Im **** sure gonna match the same high quality in components,amps,etc...As for me...I cant afford it :(Im going to stay in the $3000 range for component/subs/deck and electrical upgrades.As far as listening to MP3's...I just already have a huge collection thats all...its like when people didnt want to give up tapes lol

well you see the stuff in my signature? awesome SQ equipment, i got for less than 3000 - im talking about future setup. my current setup was about 1200

oh and no im not a salesman, i used to be at best buy lol temp job at school didnt really care about seeing how i wouldnt run any of that stuff anyway..

you can get an awesome SQ budget system for 3000 just gotta know where to look and be patient for the deals

Gary S
01-15-2008, 06:44 PM
a real audiophile can pick night and day between a very high end unit and a budget mainstream non-dedicated SQ unit.




Yes, but not with their ears.

Loud3
01-19-2008, 05:29 PM
Yes, but not with their ears.



Add that the speaker selection/location could also limit that...

As well as tuning in-car.

Talk about a nightmare.

zero7404
01-19-2008, 10:22 PM
Kenwood Excelon X-990 or X991 has 5volt pre outs. Sound quality is outstanding. I have the X-990, and have been very happy with it.

i was poking around @ my stereo shop today. the kdc-x991 is off-the-hook. i am thinking of getting it to replace my eclipse cd7000 and all those boxes i got with it (hd radio, ipod box, gps unit).

i messed with the kenwood for some time and it's got MORE sound adjustability than the eclipse. what really won me over is that it allows you to turn off the internal amp. with eclipse cd7000/7100 you get it and the heat that goes with it, can't turn it off. want an eclipse deck that has no internal amp: you have to wait to get the 7200, and suffer on display quality and cool factor.

i think i might pick one up in a few weeks or so....

Eugenics
01-19-2008, 10:55 PM
nothing is more 'cool' than a copper chassis deadhead.

zero7404
01-30-2008, 10:22 AM
but lately i've been falling for the classic look of the DRZ 9255 and it's superior SQ. i wouldn't mind getting it if i could figure out exactly how the LPF and HPF settings work for the standard mode, since i'll be using front+sub arrangement as Front H/Front L/SUB.

DiamondFanatic
01-31-2008, 12:28 AM
Believe me, you can without a question tell a difference between the $600 high end decks and those in the $1k+ range. To all those saying 880, while it is a nice unit it really doesn't hold a candle to the higher end stuff. I picked up a P9 combo myself recently and the difference between it and the 860/880/9855/9835 I've used in the past is UNBELIEVEABLE. Everything has more detail.
About the Kenwood X991- No 3-way crossover. This is unfortunate for a lot of people, hopefully you aren't one of them if you're considering it.