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TWOJZ
01-11-2008, 04:50 PM
woofer irrelevant, not stupidly big, just wanting to make a temporary box for my new sub, and was considering trying some different designs.

so, in your opinion (or preferably experience) whats the loudest design type?

pioneerpimp
01-11-2008, 04:51 PM
very broad question. bad question. you should be ashamed. youre gonna get flamed

TWOJZ
01-11-2008, 04:53 PM
very broad question. bad question. you should be ashamed. youre gonna get flamed

its broad, but not so broad that I should get flamed.

I have explained the situation, so people should be able to work out on their own that I'm looking for a box that will still play music (not just a burp box) but that I'm not all that worried about sound quality at the moment.

Rich B
01-11-2008, 04:55 PM
Pam Anderson.

BuckyBoy
01-11-2008, 04:55 PM
I would include what sub you have instead of saying woofer irrelevant, because it is one of the main factors.

solidcrowd
01-11-2008, 04:56 PM
i think your going to get flamed lol you listed no details

TWOJZ
01-11-2008, 04:56 PM
I would include what sub you have instead of saying woofer irrelevant, because it is one of the main factors.

no its not, its completely irrelevant.

TWOJZ
01-11-2008, 04:57 PM
i think your going to get flamed lol you listed no details

ok, what details do you want then? :rolleyes:

solidcrowd
01-11-2008, 04:59 PM
what sub(s), car, and what music you like listening to, and how much room you have to work with

tommyk90
01-11-2008, 05:01 PM
no its not, its completely irrelevant.

Completely wrong.

Also, I'm not gonna recommend the same box for an explorer that I would for a ford escort.

Therefore, we need more details than what you provided.

TWOJZ
01-11-2008, 05:01 PM
what sub(s), car, and what music you like listening to, and how much room you have to work with

sub doesnt matter. I'm not asking for a specific design here.

car doesn't matter. Its a sedan, it makes no difference.

music doesn't matter. A box should play most types of music fairly well, I have said SQ doesn't really matter.

room doesn't matter. I said not too big, eg, no full size folded horns.

BuckyBoy
01-11-2008, 05:01 PM
no its not, its completely irrelevant.
:laugh: You might want to do a little research...

TWOJZ
01-11-2008, 05:02 PM
Completely wrong.

I'm not gonna recommend the same box for an explorer that I would for a ford escort.

I'm not asking for a specific design, I'm asking for the loudest style of box... 4th order bandpass, 6th order, 8th order, transmission line, etc.

the woofer is irrelevant, as is the speaker, whether its a 6inch, or an 18inch, it doesn't matter.

tommyk90
01-11-2008, 05:02 PM
sub doesnt matter. I'm not asking for a specific design here.

car doesn't matter. Its a sedan, it makes no difference.

music doesn't matter. A box should play most types of music fairly well, I have said SQ doesn't really matter.

room doesn't matter. I said not too big, eg, no full size folded horns.

Are you f*cking serious? Honestly?

All those things make all the difference in the world as to which design will be louder.

You have to be a monkey with a keyboard or something.

tommyk90
01-11-2008, 05:03 PM
I'm not asking for a specific design, I'm asking for the loudest style of box... 4th order bandpass, 6th order, 8th order, transmission line, etc.

the woofer is irrelevant, as is the speaker, whether its a 6inch, or an 18inch, it doesn't matter.

That all depends on the vehicle you moron!

TWOJZ
01-11-2008, 05:04 PM
Are you f*cking serious? Honestly?

All those things make all the difference in the world as to which design will be louder.

You have to be a monkey with a keyboard or something.

no, are you serious... so, you're trying to say, that a ported box designed for one car, put into a different car, may be quieter than a sealed box in another car? :rolleyes:

so, all those things clearly being irrelevant...

ultimate157
01-11-2008, 05:04 PM
retarded thread of the year award.

TWOJZ
01-11-2008, 05:05 PM
That all depends on the vehicle you moron!

:rolleyes: umm, no it doesn't

lol

tommyk90
01-11-2008, 05:06 PM
no, are you serious... so, you're trying to say, that a ported box designed for one car, put into a different car, may be quieter than a sealed box in another car? :rolleyes:

so, all those things clearly being irrelevant...

Yes, thats exactly right.

A ported box designed for one car may actually completely **** *** in another.

Why do you think there are different designs for different vehicle types? Are people just feeling saucy?

tommyk90
01-11-2008, 05:06 PM
retarded thread of the year award.

x mother f*cking 2

TWOJZ
01-11-2008, 05:07 PM
Yes, thats exactly right.

A ported box designed for one car may actually completely **** *** in another.

Why do you think there are different designs for different vehicle types? Are people just feeling saucy?

you're really just proving your complete ignorance the more you post, but I'll just leave you guys to it :)

solidcrowd
01-11-2008, 05:07 PM
ban? lol

tommyk90
01-11-2008, 05:09 PM
you're really just proving your complete ignorance the more you post, but I'll just leave you guys to it :)

So youre telling me that a 4th order designed for a grand am trunk will perform just as well in a ford expedition?

No one box works best for every vehicle type. If that was true then everyone would be running the same style enclosure. The design itself is just as important as the equipment and the person building/using said enclosure.

This thread is retarded beyond belief.

JimJ
01-11-2008, 05:11 PM
Did somebody order a large fail?

JimJ
01-11-2008, 05:12 PM
Are people just feeling saucy?

I feel...saucy...

rawr

assassyn
01-11-2008, 05:13 PM
the bigest ported box you can fit in you car. that would be your best bet. or you could try a T-line (depending on space)

pioneerpimp
01-11-2008, 05:15 PM
this guy is a ****in idiot seriously. sub does matter put a BTL intoa ported box, then put it in an IB application. tell me they both sound the same.

tommyk90
01-11-2008, 05:16 PM
Did somebody order a large fail?

with a side of AIDS.

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01-11-2008, 05:22 PM
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TWOJZ
01-11-2008, 05:52 PM
ok, lol, lets assume I have two 6.5inch tangbands, and I want to put them in... a small coupe?

tommyk90
01-11-2008, 05:54 PM
ok, lol, lets assume I have two 6.5inch tangbands, and I want to put them in... a small coupe?

hatchback or trunk car?

How much power?

What are you looking to acheive?

How are your box building skills?

TWOJZ
01-11-2008, 05:54 PM
this guy is a ****in idiot seriously. sub does matter put a BTL intoa ported box, then put it in an IB application. tell me they both sound the same.

umm... lol, I think you missed the point here completely...

I'm asking about different enclosures, thats the whole point! I'm saying the vehicle/driver dont matter regarding my question. :rolleyes:

TWOJZ
01-11-2008, 05:55 PM
hatchback or trunk car?

How much power?

What are you looking to acheive?

How are your box building skills?

hatch back, 100watts per woofer, looking to achieve whats the loudest box design :laugh: :crazy:

box building skills are fine thanks, how are yours?

Max4hdmatt
01-11-2008, 05:59 PM
------------> GO HOME!! your thread ***** big nutz

TWOJZ
01-11-2008, 06:00 PM
------------> GO HOME!! your thread ***** big nutz

I am home, did you not read my location?

Max4hdmatt
01-11-2008, 06:01 PM
you could be anywhere. you should just stop being in car audio period.

tommyk90
01-11-2008, 06:12 PM
hatch back, 100watts per woofer, looking to achieve whats the loudest box design :laugh: :crazy:

box building skills are fine thanks, how are yours?

When you mean "loudest" do you mean loud daily driver, or just the highest SPL numbers?

See what I'm getting at here? It's impossible to say which box is the best.

97gp
01-11-2008, 06:19 PM
25 cubes tuned to 67hz sounds good for 2 6.5's in a hatchback

TWOJZ
01-11-2008, 06:20 PM
When you mean "loudest" do you mean loud daily driver, or just the highest SPL numbers?

See what I'm getting at here? It's impossible to say which box is the best.

I already specified that in the third post in this thread...

see what I'm getting at?

tommyk90
01-11-2008, 06:26 PM
I already specified that in the third post in this thread...

see what I'm getting at?

Well, i must have forgotten about that amongst all the other crap you posted.

Anyways, since you are going for high SPL numbers while still retaining some musicality with limited power, a bandpass enclosure may be the way to go since efficiency is key. Maybe a 6th order since you are looking for optimum output capabilities. The only downside is that those are much more difficult to design and tune properly versus a normal ported box.

The particulars of the enclosure will depend on the woofers themselves.

Though I'm sure a proper ported box could achieve decently high SPL numbers, but the tuning would probably have to be high and wouldn't sound good for a daily driver.

dragnix
01-11-2008, 06:28 PM
i'm just posting here to have my presence be in a soon to be epic thread :)

01xtreme
01-11-2008, 06:31 PM
me, me, me...im next. what is the loudest sub? box doesn't matter, power doesn't matter, car doesn't matter...see how ridiculous your question sounds now? Everything is interrelated when it come to being loud.

Beefy
01-11-2008, 06:32 PM
I didn't read the posts on the 3rd page but WOW...

I've be on this site for all of maybe a week? I came in w. very little knowledge of CA and Ive already learned that among box design, your speakers and car layout are almost just as important...

Learn to accept the facts buddy and don't keep asking for irrelivent and unhelpful box help.

Boxes can be thought of as pizza. Theres the best sauce, bread, toppings, or cheese. It all depends what you want with it.

Rich B
01-11-2008, 06:33 PM
Im tellin ya, its Pam Anderson.

TWOJZ
01-11-2008, 06:34 PM
me, me, me...im next. what is the loudest sub? box doesn't matter, power doesn't matter, car doesn't matter...see how ridiculous your question sounds now? Everything is interrelated when it come to being loud.

no, thats the complete opposite, the box is 90% of how loud, or how good a woofer will sound.

some people really have no idea.

tommyk90
01-11-2008, 06:36 PM
no, thats the complete opposite, the box is 90% of how loud, or how good a woofer will sound.

some people really have no idea.

While the box does determine how well a woofer CAN perform, its still down to the equipment itself to actually live up to it's standards.

You can't expect a $20 pyle woofer to outperform something of higher quality given the optimal box for both and optimal power for both.

What 01xtreme posted is just as relevant of a question as yours. You can't make one generalization for every situation out there.

01xtreme
01-11-2008, 06:38 PM
no, thats the complete opposite, the box is 90% of how loud, or how good a woofer will sound.

some people really have no idea.

You must not have read what I said. the box is 90% of how loud/good a sub is/sounds. There for it is important to taylor your box to the sub being played in. some subs react better in sealed boxes, or ported boxes, or bandpass boxes...etc. therefore saying 1 box above all others is loudest is completely stupid.

pioneerpimp
01-11-2008, 06:38 PM
umm... lol, I think you missed the point here completely...

I'm asking about different enclosures, thats the whole point! I'm saying the vehicle/driver dont matter regarding my question. :rolleyes:

the best box for the application relies on more than just who has hit what with what subs. we need to know the sub to tell you which box is the loudest. theres is no loudest box, its how the sub performs in the box you ****in idiot havent you understood that after all these posts?

wheeler8921
01-11-2008, 06:44 PM
if you have an 8" sub it would get loudest in about a cube, if you had a 15" sub it may get loudest in 4 cubes, but if you put an 8" sub in a 4 cube box, well.. Lets just say you built yourself a coffee table. sub is completely relevant! I didnt read past post 5, so if this was already established then have fun at the fair.

TWOJZ
01-11-2008, 06:46 PM
lol

01xtreme
01-11-2008, 06:53 PM
lol

lol doesn't cover it...its more like roflmao. I can actually feel my knowledge of car audio being effected by the immensity of your stupidity.

TWOJZ
01-11-2008, 06:54 PM
lol doesn't cover it...its more like roflmao. I can actually feel my knowledge of car audio being effected by the immensity of your stupidity.

lol again

SeanDub
01-11-2008, 06:59 PM
I think you should have gathered a couple things from this thread:

These guys and I hate broad questions with implied fallacies.
There is no best box.
There definitely is no best box for a general situation without considering application, goals, woofers, vehicle, etc. (How the hell are we supposed to tell you what box you should build if you don't even tell us the size of the woofer?)

And why do you argue with the help that is being offered? If we tell you we need more information or something you believe is not right, why do you not even consider it or tell us we are completely wrong?

Just wondering.

TWOJZ
01-11-2008, 07:03 PM
I think you should have gathered a couple things from this thread:

These guys and I hate broad questions with implied fallacies.
There is no best box.
There definitely is no best box for a general situation without considering application, goals, woofers, vehicle, etc. (How the hell are we supposed to tell you what box you should build if you don't even tell us the size of the woofer?)

And why do you argue with the help that is being offered? If we tell you we need more information or something you believe is not right, why do you not even consider it or tell us we are completely wrong?

Just wondering.

lol X3

SeanDub
01-11-2008, 07:04 PM
lol X3

:confused::confused::confused:

mrbomb
01-11-2008, 07:14 PM
so you dont want an answer anymore :confused:

mile098
01-11-2008, 07:19 PM
if ure gonna generalize so much id say transmission line or horns...but i fully agree that there is not 'best' box, everything depends on what u want the driver to do...

shavenblazer
01-11-2008, 07:27 PM
To the op / your life.

Max4hdmatt
01-11-2008, 07:31 PM
somebody needs to put this question in there signature. i would do it if i knew how to.

ItalynStylion
01-11-2008, 07:36 PM
If this guy thinks he knows everything then why did he come here for help?

TWOJZ
01-11-2008, 07:37 PM
If this guy thinks he knows everything then why did he come here for help?

I didn't :)

I came here for a laugh, and I got one.

lol

tommyk90
01-11-2008, 07:45 PM
I didn't :)

I came here for a laugh, and I got one.

lol

Don't worry, we got just as much of a laugh off of your stupidity. So we'll call it even.

TWOJZ
01-11-2008, 07:49 PM
Don't worry, we got just as much of a laugh off of your stupidity. So we'll call it even.

but I'm not the stupid one here, thats the funniest bit!

:)

tommyk90
01-11-2008, 07:51 PM
but I'm not the stupid one here, thats the funniest bit!

:)

Whatever you say opie.

Since you started this thread as a joke, please enlighten us as to what is considered the "loudest box".

pioneerpimp
01-11-2008, 07:52 PM
i agree. prove us wrong

ItalynStylion
01-11-2008, 07:54 PM
but I'm not the stupid one here, thats the funniest bit!

:)

denial.....it hurts to see


i agree. prove us wrong

If he could he would have

TWOJZ
01-11-2008, 07:58 PM
lol X4?

ItalynStylion
01-11-2008, 07:59 PM
I'm a retard X4?

getting warmer

TWOJZ
01-11-2008, 08:03 PM
getting warmer

lol

pioneerpimp
01-11-2008, 08:07 PM
god do you need to be banned

LOLx5 now?

TWOJZ
01-11-2008, 08:09 PM
LOLx5 now?

maybe even 6 :)

I'll leave you guy to it.

clearly I'm wasting my time talking to a bunch of idiots.

shavenblazer
01-11-2008, 08:13 PM
I dont see how someone like your self wakes up every morning if i was u i would go breathe under water.

tommyk90
01-11-2008, 08:16 PM
I'm guessing he doesn't have an answer for us?

TWOJZ
01-11-2008, 08:31 PM
I'm guessing he doesn't have an answer for us?

lol X7?

firstly, I dont have a coupe, I dont have 6.5inch woofers either.

tommyk90
01-11-2008, 08:33 PM
lol X7?

firstly, I dont have a coupe, I dont have 6.5inch woofers either.

I thought that didn't matter?

Apparently one box fits all. So please enlighten us.

TWOJZ
01-11-2008, 08:37 PM
I thought that didn't matter?

Apparently one box fits all. So please enlighten us.

no, one box of course doesn't fit all, I never said this, I did however say that one box type will be louder than another box type, in most situations.

but, of course, I am talking to an idiot.

tommyk90
01-11-2008, 08:39 PM
no, one box of course doesn't fit all, I never said this, I did however say that one box type will be louder than another box type, in most situations.

but, of course, I am talking to an idiot.

Well then, what is this magical enclosure?

Now you are starting to back pedal by adding little statements like "in most siuations". According to your previous posts, you made it abundantly clear that one type of enclosure outperforms all others regardless of vehicle or equipment.

Pyro_By_Nature
01-11-2008, 08:48 PM
Someone please ban this troll.

TWOJZ
01-11-2008, 08:49 PM
Well then, what is this magical enclosure?

Now you are starting to back pedal by adding little statements like "in most siuations". According to your previous posts, you made it abundantly clear that one type of enclosure outperforms all others regardless of vehicle or equipment.

I'm not back pedaling at all.

and I'm going to leave you clowns to come up with your own answer, and think whatever you want.

snova031
01-11-2008, 08:49 PM
You're a f*cking idiot.

Holy ****, you're an idiot.

tommyk90
01-11-2008, 08:50 PM
I'm not back pedaling at all.

and I'm going to leave you clowns to come up with your own answer, and think whatever you want.

Ok then?

btdickey99
01-11-2008, 08:51 PM
wow just got done reading this thread......and

TWOJZ you just need to stop posting what you think

bc you my friend are a *******

TWOJZ
01-11-2008, 08:52 PM
lol, you people are living in total self delusion

PsychoTheRapist
01-11-2008, 08:52 PM
I'm not back pedaling at all.

and I'm going to leave you clowns to come up with your own answer, and think whatever you want.

:bowdown: :crap:



GTFO!

tommyk90
01-11-2008, 08:54 PM
lol, you people are living in total self delusion

You're taking advice from death by bass aren't you?

Don't worry, you'll be banned soon enough.

snova031
01-11-2008, 08:55 PM
lol, you people are living in total self delusion

It's self delusion when EVERYONE is telling you that you're wrong, yet you are still ignorant enough to believe you are correct...

01xtreme
01-11-2008, 09:18 PM
I think it is obvious by now, TWOJZ is talking about the 42.5th order bandpass enclosure. IT is so loud it will liquify oxygen, and that is running less than 100 watts to 1 4 inch speaker, and BTW it works in absolutely every car ever made.

Lakota
01-11-2008, 10:30 PM
no, are you serious... so, you're trying to say, that a ported box designed for one car, put into a different car, may be quieter than a sealed box in another car? :rolleyes:

so, all those things clearly being irrelevant...

You must have no experience at all with car audio/testing. Your theory ***** too.

01xtreme
01-11-2008, 10:38 PM
You must have no experience at all with car audio/testing. Your theory ***** too.

sounds to me like exactly what it is. He just had BB install his subs it his 82 honda civic, and he read the manual's that come with his insignia subs...so naturally he is a car audio genius.

TWOJZ
01-11-2008, 10:39 PM
sounds to me like exactly what it is. He just had BB install his subs it his 82 honda civic, and he read the manual's that come with his insignia subs...so naturally he is a car audio genius.

speaking from your own personal experience?

01xtreme
01-12-2008, 09:32 AM
speaking from your own personal experience?

no, speaking from dealing with assholes like you an a regular basis. you come on here asking us for advice on a subject you are obviously completely inept in, and when the people here start trying to help you/show you the error of your ways you start trying to act all high an mighty, like you know ****. I hate to break it to you, but if you have to ask questions liek what is the loudest box, you have already lost the ability to argue with Tommyk90, as well as a multitude of other members here, like myself who actually know something of which they speak. Sure there are a bunch of internet know-it-all's on here, but there are also many, many people who know what they are talking about and are willing to help, like in the beginning of this thread, but once you start arguing with the people trying to help you lose all chance of getting help, and instead are subject to flaming like you are. sorry for the long post since your attention span must be closely related to that of a gnat, but hopefully you can muttle through it. If you need help understanding this post i can try again using less complex sentences and smaller word so you may some how understand, in your 3rd grade educated mind, what it is we have been trying to sat the whole time.

TWOJZ
01-12-2008, 04:55 PM
lol X whatever number Im up to.

you're the biggest clown of them all :)

ravens9322
01-12-2008, 05:17 PM
your a total DB.... And i hope your smart enough to know which DB im talking about.

Your the epitome of everything thats retarded, in which case YOU ARE THE PERFECT BOX

TWOJZ
01-12-2008, 05:18 PM
lol

ravens9322
01-12-2008, 05:21 PM
everything must be funny to this guy. Im glad we can ALL share a laugh here.

This has really brightened my day and is by far my favorite thread.

Congrats numb nuts, i salute you

TWOJZ
01-12-2008, 05:23 PM
everything must be funny to this guy. Im glad we can ALL share a laugh here.

This has really brightened my day and is by far my favorite thread.

Congrats numb nuts, i salute you

most of you guys seriously have the maturity of a child, some of you are after all still children.

ravens9322
01-12-2008, 05:25 PM
This thread is like a 5th grade school yard throw down, and im enjoying the ***** out of myself right now

01xtreme
01-12-2008, 07:26 PM
lol X whatever number Im up to.

you're the biggest clown of them all :)
glad to see you are getting as much entertainment out of me, as I am of you. You have to be one of the dumbest to have ever plagued CA.com, and how you are not banned yet is completely beyond me...oh wait, being a complete and total douche bag is not a bannable offense, although it does get pretty old and is bound to wear on the mods sooner or later.

TWOJZ
01-12-2008, 09:13 PM
glad to see you are getting as much entertainment out of me, as I am of you. You have to be one of the dumbest to have ever plagued CA.com, and how you are not banned yet is completely beyond me...oh wait, being a complete and total douche bag is not a bannable offense, although it does get pretty old and is bound to wear on the mods sooner or later.

:laugh:

you're starting to get boring now.

:crazy:

TheFiverMan
01-12-2008, 09:23 PM
Wow Ur An Idiot!

TWOJZ
01-12-2008, 10:06 PM
Wow Ur An Idiot!

wow, that was a very intelligent comment :laugh:

thegreatestpenn
01-12-2008, 10:09 PM
life's too short for petty e-arguements

TWOJZ
01-12-2008, 10:10 PM
life's too short for petty e-arguements

hey hey! someone who may actually have some intelligence!

very good :)

haha

01xtreme
01-12-2008, 10:43 PM
:laugh:

you're starting to get boring now.

:crazy:

Maybe I will get boring enough for you to leave. At least thats what im hoping for.

TWOJZ
01-12-2008, 10:45 PM
Maybe I will get boring enough for you to leave. At least thats what im hoping for.

nah, the more boring you get, the more I'll stick around in the hope that you'll become more entertaining

TheFiverMan
01-12-2008, 10:45 PM
wow, that was a very intelligent comment :laugh:

Intelligent? You havent posted an intelligent comment this whole time..and u claim you know more then us..

TWOJZ
01-12-2008, 10:47 PM
Intelligent? You havent posted an intelligent comment this whole time..and u claim you know more then us..

its not a claim, its a fact :)

america is the dumbest nation :laugh:

ravens9322
01-12-2008, 11:29 PM
its not a claim, its a fact :)

america is the dumbest nation :laugh:

christ almighty now your just a ****ing insult to this country. you should be put on the front lines overseas because your just a waste of life. first you were an idiot and now your just a sack of ****

01xtreme
01-13-2008, 12:00 AM
its not a claim, its a fact :)

america is the dumbest nation :laugh:

Only if you're in it. I am pretty sure that title follows you to any country you reside.