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TurboG
12-18-2007, 03:10 AM
Hello guys I'm trying to decide on a pair of 6 1/2" components for the front and rear doors I have some options my budget is under 150$ each pair and 300$ total:

1) Boston Acoustics SX60
http://www.bostonacoustics.com/car/car_product.aspx?category_id=14&family_id=123&product_id=338

2) Diamond D661
http://www.diamondaudio.com/content/view/105/119/

3) MB Quart RVF 216
http://www.mbquart.com/en/produkte/car/reference/produkt.php?nr=rvf_216

I'm looking for good SQL since I have a Kicker L7 12" (pretty loud)
Your opinion will be appreciated ;)

Ignatowski
12-18-2007, 07:26 AM
Not the Diamonds.........Junk.

jblayz1
12-18-2007, 09:34 AM
what car are these going in? use your budget wisely and get a good set for the front only.

TurboG
12-18-2007, 11:55 AM
what car are these going in? use your budget wisely and get a good set for the front only.


So is better If I just get a good pair of comps and coaxials for the rear? :confused:

blaze383
12-18-2007, 12:49 PM
Not the Diamonds.........Junk.

Is there a reason you say this because I was looking into purchasing these too :(

blacksatsc2
12-18-2007, 03:20 PM
I dont have any experience with sx60's but i had the sx65 coaxs and they are very solid speakers, pretty good range on the highs and lows, i actually have a pair of them right now if you would be interested in buying them used. Ireplaced them with the SL60's so i really have no use for them.

TurboG
12-18-2007, 03:23 PM
I'm gonna post some pics of the car beause they don't make this at the US is a Ford Fiesta mk7

http://www.mifordfiesta.com/foro042004/uploads/1190085887/gallery_690_28_26698.jpg

http://www.mifordfiesta.com/foro042004/uploads/1190085887/gallery_690_28_104608.jpg


I have one Kicker L7 12" powered by a Kicker amp ZX750.1 in the trunk, the HU is Alpine CDA-9886...

Now I just need some components but I want to know If 1 pair for the front is enough or 2 pairs for the front and rear will make it even better sound???

The car only has 4 speakers all in the doors 6-1/2"

Opinions Please... :crap:

TurboG
12-18-2007, 03:25 PM
Bump~

WhoSayWho?
12-18-2007, 03:35 PM
So is better If I just get a good pair of comps and coaxials for the rear? :confused:

Most people will tell you to spend more money on the comps and forget the rears. I agree with that view.

jmanpc
12-18-2007, 03:39 PM
Quarts :)

TurboG
12-18-2007, 03:40 PM
Most people will tell you to spend more money on the comps and forget the rears. I agree with that view.

Ok I guess I'm gonna do that! but I'm just wondering If the sound will be ****** in the back seat... Will it still be loud? I don't want the bass to take over...

Frijoles24
12-18-2007, 03:42 PM
mm if ure budget is 150, go with mb quarts premium series. i wouldnt go with reference. =p im thinking of buying me some qsd 213 and qsd 216s. thats one above premium...so thats like 300-400 per =]

Rich B
12-18-2007, 03:47 PM
If the tweeters mount high, up near your ears, avoid the Quarts because of their metal domes.

If you could find some Diamond Hex S600 comps with the silk tweeter I would go with those over the D661.

WhoSayWho?
12-18-2007, 03:48 PM
Ok I guess I'm gonna do that! but I'm just wondering If the sound will be ****** in the back seat... Will it still be loud? I don't want the bass to take over...

Not really, and I think you should worry more about the front seat. If the people in the back were important, wouldn't they be riding up front?

Seriously, in my experence the problem with rear fill is that you probably will not be able to hear it up front (in which case it is a waste of money, IMO). If you can hear it up front then your soundstage is screwed up.

You would be much better off in spending that $300 on components up front. Trust me, if they are pwoered properly the people in the back will have no problem hearing them.


I am pretty sure that for $300 you can find the BA Pro's (since you are already thinking about BA) that will get load as hell. They need some power though.

And yes, Diamond's product quality has gone down hill in recent years.

TurboG
12-18-2007, 03:52 PM
@ jmanpc

I want your opinion dude :D

Between this 2 options what will you choose:


1) x2 MB Quart RVF 216 (Front & Rear Doors) powered by a 4 Ch amp 100 RMS x 4 @ 4 ohms

2) x1 MB Quart PVF 216 (Front only) powered by a 2 Ch amp 150 RMS x 2 @ 4 ohms

TurboG
12-18-2007, 06:07 PM
Well I think I made up my mind:

Boston Acoustics SL60 component for the front and SX65 coaxials for the rear (Don't wanna leave them empty :blush:).

Now the question is: All this speakers will be powered by a Kicker ZX350.4 amp, it does 60 RMS x 4 @ 4 ohms

The SL60 will be fine but I saw the SX65 just do 50 RMS will it be too much power for them? can they handle that? :eek:

jmanpc
12-18-2007, 06:12 PM
I'd def go for some MBQ PVFs up front on 150w. They will get loud and sound crisp. If I were you, if you want some rear speakers, just get some coaxials and run them off head unit power.

jmanpc
12-18-2007, 06:13 PM
You need to get more power for your front speakers... I'd recommend at least 100w for the fronts. They can sound good on 60w, but 100-150w will really wake up midbass.

jmanpc
12-18-2007, 06:15 PM
Oh, and one more thing: usually companies like Boston and MB Quart tend to establish their power ratings with speakers playing full range. Power handling increases greatly with a HPF of 80hz or so, because the speakers won't be reaching their mechanical limits playing bass frequencies.

TurboG
12-18-2007, 10:32 PM
I'd def go for some MBQ PVFs up front on 150w. They will get loud and sound crisp. If I were you, if you want some rear speakers, just get some coaxials and run them off head unit power.


If I do this and run some cheap DISCUS series coaxs with the HU wouldn't they make distortion at high volume?

I really enjoy music in the car I'm always stuck in traffic coming back from college here in my city so I just want to have a Crisp, clear and loud sound.

TurboG
12-19-2007, 10:04 AM
Oh, and one more thing: usually companies like Boston and MB Quart tend to establish their power ratings with speakers playing full range. Power handling increases greatly with a HPF of 80hz or so, because the speakers won't be reaching their mechanical limits playing bass frequencies.

Do you know anything about Alpine Type R's components? I've been searching through the forum and everything I read about them is bad, are they really that bad?

Propimp
12-19-2007, 10:14 AM
I have no complaints about any of my diamond audio gear at all. :fyi: