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singlefordrange
12-04-2007, 01:29 AM
Wrecked the ranger and bought a regular cab 1996 Chevy 1500. I have searched the forum and couldn't find any 2 12" ported sub setups in a single cab. Does anyone have any plans handy? :veryhapp:

Power that i am working with is about 2000wrms. Getting ready to do the big three with 0 guage wire. Line driver is on the way. The only thing holding me back is box plans...i'll draw up some plans after finals and see what is up i just need a general idea at what i am looking at if you fellas would be willing to help me out!

So if you have box plans or regular cab setup stories, let me know!

singlefordrange
12-04-2007, 01:37 AM
Sh*t wrong thread! My bad mods! New to this whole "technology" thing! lol

hoxie08
12-04-2007, 01:40 AM
not too familiar with how much space you are working with :( only thing i know are nissan, dodge, and toyota standard cabs personally :(

jdc753
12-04-2007, 12:57 PM
Got any dimensions to get us started with. I got a Ford crew cab which doesn't have much room behind the back seat depth wise but I can get about 60" accross.

Thinking to start off you could do something like 60"Wide x 20" High x 8" bottom x 4" top

I know there are some loud chevy regular cab guys one here maybe they can chime in with something

Thinking aero ports would be a must on this to take up the least amount of volume in the box

EDIT: That box would be 2.81 ft^3 so would probably need to go bigger to get 2 12's ported

Any idea on what subs you wanna run?

singlefordrange
12-05-2007, 01:20 AM
You listed exact dimensions! I could scoot the seat up and add about two more inches to the depth...but i am 6'5" tall... no idea on what subs i am wanting to run. I have been reading up on the mag remakes and with 5.5" mouting depth it would be an ease fitting them in there! I was going to choose subs until i had maxed out volume for the box and then chose subs accordingly and lastly tuning the box.

Yes i have heard of numerous single cab setups. Hopefully they will chime in on some plans! Thank you for your help! It goes appreciated!

jdc753
12-05-2007, 02:56 PM
You listed exact dimensions! I could scoot the seat up and add about two more inches to the depth...but i am 6'5" tall... no idea on what subs i am wanting to run. I have been reading up on the mag remakes and with 5.5" mouting depth it would be an ease fitting them in there! I was going to choose subs until i had maxed out volume for the box and then chose subs accordingly and lastly tuning the box.

Yes i have heard of numerous single cab setups. Hopefully they will chime in on some plans! Thank you for your help! It goes appreciated!

It can be hard to get both a big box and some legroom in a regular cab. I just took those dimensions and by stretching out the bottom 1 more inch it jumps up to 3.12 ft^3 if you bump out the top as well by 1 inch it jumps up again to 3.44 ft^3

Only other problem I would see would be mounting depth. With the first box even running 10's there seems to be only 6" mounting depth and should have at least an inch or 2 behind the sub for the pole vent. Stretching it out by an inch on top and bottom gives almost 6-3/4" mounting depth for a 12" and you could drop some aero ports in on the sides (I think thats the loudest in regular cabs) or just drop em in from the top.

If your really dedicated and don't wanna give up the leg room you could look into doing a fiberglass back and bottom for the box to try and really maximize the area.

Bake
12-05-2007, 05:18 PM
Dude you are in luck. I have been working on a couple of different box plans for a chevy. If you want a ported box a single twelve is probably your best option. You only have around 3' to work with. Once you take out port and speaker displacement you have about 2.5'. As was stated you can glass the rear wall to save a little space.

Here is a sketchup of a first draft I came up with for a Kicker L5 12". It is drawn to use glass on the rear wall. I am working on a couple of others to figure out which actually gives more leg room. I may have time to finish another one tonight. I'll post it too if you would like.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/5213/josh2dweb1pz5.png (http://www.caraudio.com/forum/%5BURL=http://imageshack.us%5D%5BIMG%5Dhttp://img134.imageshack.us/img134/5213/josh2dweb1pz5.png%5B/IMG%5D%5B/URL%5D)

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2900/josh2dweb2xd6.png (http://imageshack.us)

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Johnny Drama
12-05-2007, 05:23 PM
:FYI: you will have no room for 2 12" subs ported in that truck. Hell, fitting 1 12" ported ***** for leg room.

Run them sealed in 2 cubes and it will still sound great.

My single 12" sub sealed is loud and capable of shaking my entire truck. Ask anyone who has seen/heard it.

adas
12-05-2007, 10:06 PM
3 DD 1508's, 1 6" aero to the passenger side and 2.5cu.ft?:veryhapp:

for 2 12's sealed. Even though, you can do 4 10's sealed not too hard, not a very effiecient route. Honestly, anything over 1 12 is loud in a single cab lol:p:

jdc753
12-06-2007, 09:11 AM
How about dropping down to 2 tens ported, could probably get away with that pretty easily without sacraficing leg room. Still mounting depth will be an issue but volume won't be as bad.

singlefordrange
12-07-2007, 12:44 PM
Alrighty let me throw and idea out there and you guys can either shoot it down or support it!

Ok have thought about jdc753's advice and considering 2 10's ported. I just got done doing measurements in my truck and can pull 3.2 cubic feet internal volume. Yes mounting depth is a serious issue therefore i have scooted my seat forward to achieve 10" of depth behind it. I would then be able to mount two 10's in downfire position with aero ports from the top. I have been looking at JBL Gti 10's but i don't know if they would fit due to magnet diameter. I will be doing a sketchup of my idea here afterwhile.

Thank you for the L5 box design! I will take that into consideration if this doesn't work out for me!

Railrocker
12-07-2007, 12:47 PM
not too familiar with how much space you are working with :( only thing i know are nissan, dodge, and toyota standard cabs personally :(

Behind the seat of that chevy should be almost exactly like a 94-01 dodge, I did a direct swap with a box for a single 15 and it fit exactly the same.

singlefordrange
12-08-2007, 12:05 AM
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singlefordrange
12-08-2007, 12:18 AM
The two cyliner's in the pictures are the JBL JTI subs. Haha may need to consider some others! lol.....any suggestions?

Bake
12-08-2007, 03:08 AM
Hey man, here's a couple more sketchup shots. This one is 3.25^3. I think it will give more leg room than my first draft. This one is about 10" inches at the bottom. Both of these stay below the trim piece below the back glass. Going up in front of that, like you have your Sketch, will cost you lots of room quick as far as the seat going back.

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/7231/josh2dweb3re0.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/9229/josh2dweb4ft4.png (http://imageshack.us)

singlefordrange
12-09-2007, 10:08 PM
Hey man, here's a couple more sketchup shots. This one is 3.25^3. I think it will give more leg room than my first draft. This one is about 10" inches at the bottom. Both of these stay below the trim piece below the back glass. Going up in front of that, like you have your Sketch, will cost you lots of room quick as far as the seat going back.

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/7231/josh2dweb3re0.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/9229/josh2dweb4ft4.png (http://imageshack.us)

Good grief that looks nice! You have spent some serious time on that! What is the mounting depth of the sub that you have depicted in your sketch-ups?

Bake
12-09-2007, 10:55 PM
I set the depth at 6 3/4 on that one. That's how deep the L5 that will be going in it is. I don't yet know the diameter of the magnet on the sub so I am sure I will have a little more tweaking to do before I hit the saw bench. I did spend some time on the sketch but I am pretty new to the program. I spent a while tweaking the port trying to get something I was happy with. Probably going to tweak that some too before it is done.

Oh, I didn't Sketch the speaker. It was downloaded from the 3D warehouse.

singlefordrange
12-10-2007, 03:57 PM
Oh haha i was going to say! I just tried sketching a speaker and it was wayyy beyond my skill level! Thanks for your help man! I am going to try to go with one 12" si mag or two 10" jbl jti and just do what it takes to make it work.

97gmcsierra
12-10-2007, 09:10 PM
Yea the single 12" or 2-10" setup is about your only option. I have tried everything possible to get a good sized ported box for 2-12"s and even two decent 10''s with no luck at all. Biggest internal volume I could get with any leg room at all was about 3.5-3.9cuft. Started out with two L7 12" sealed about 1.5cuft. each. Now I have 4-10"s sealed. Got an awesome deal on the 4 subs so it all worked out great.

Being 6 foot something isn't that fun when you want to have a loud system in these trucks.

97gmcsierra
12-10-2007, 09:17 PM
Even though, you can do 4 10's sealed not too hard

This is what I did and I'm satisfied with the sound and leg room of it. I will post some pictures and box dimensions in a lil bit. Got Rockford Fosgate P1's back there.

poundindak69
12-10-2007, 09:25 PM
i did a 4 10 setup once. it wasnt to bad but then i put a 15 in there haha ( if anyone with a dakota want a box for 15L7 for a regular cab i got one)

singlefordrange
12-12-2007, 01:12 AM
Yea the single 12" or 2-10" setup is about your only option. I have tried everything possible to get a good sized ported box for 2-12"s and even two decent 10''s with no luck at all. Biggest internal volume I could get with any leg room at all was about 3.5-3.9cuft. Started out with two L7 12" sealed about 1.5cuft. each. Now I have 4-10"s sealed. Got an awesome deal on the 4 subs so it all worked out great.

Being 6 foot something isn't that fun when you want to have a loud system in these trucks.

Do you get some decent output from them? How do they compare to ported 10's? Pics would be great! :veryhapp:

97gmcsierra
12-13-2007, 12:38 AM
I think it gets pretty loud and sounds good doing it. I havent had a chance to get the 10's metered yet, but they will make your ears tickle . They have a much smoother response being in the exact sized sealed box that Rockford recommends over the peaky ways of a ported box. I opted to go sealed and double the amount of subwoofers, because I couldnt find a pair 10's that I liked enough to make a ported box to fit behind the seat. It's hard to compare them to my last setup but they get as loud as the 12"s I had before. Havnet heard many 10s in ported boxes lately to give an accurate comparison. A whole lot better SQ.

I will get some good updated pictures as soon as it stops raining for 10 minutes. I swear it has rained for 3 days straight.

singlefordrange
12-16-2007, 12:12 AM
Wow i guess that is definetely an option! I am down to either two jbl gti 10" or one 12" memphis mojo...the mojo i would be squeezing in trying to fit 8" of depth! I would fiberglass about a a 10" of the box in the middle to accomodate the depth. there. I know that i need another inch of clearance for the pole vent but if the sub is angled i think there will be plenty of room for venting without pulling it out so much.

97gmcsierra
12-16-2007, 04:04 AM
Ok I finally got to take a picture. Its the best one I could get where everything is visible without taking the box out. And its a ***** to get out. The mount depth is about 6", give or take 1/2" or so. Each speaker has about .59cuft. I can lay and slide the seat back far enough to touch the window with the headrest also.

http://chevytruckworld.tenmagazines.com/gallery/joshsierra/284759.jpg

mdillon
12-16-2007, 05:04 AM
glass a center console into the box for extra air space. you can also run the port out of the bottom of the console

atlninja82
12-16-2007, 05:47 PM
hey 97 do you have any videos of that? i was thinking of that exact same setup. how does it it sound? loud? would you choose that setup over two memphis 12"S m class?

budahbuddy803
12-16-2007, 05:57 PM
IMO i would run 2 8's ported. That way you can provide optimal air space and conserve as much space as possible for the comfort issue. There are some pretty **** nice 8's out there.

97gmcsierra
12-16-2007, 07:19 PM
hey 97 do you have any videos of that? i was thinking of that exact same setup. how does it it sound? loud? would you choose that setup over two memphis 12"S m class?

I currently dont have a camera good enough to take a decent video of them. I'll try to get a video camera from someone. I took that pic with my phone. They get pretty dang loud and have excellent sound quality. I would recommend this setup to anyone. If you could figure out a way to make a box big enough to fit two memphis 12s in there I think it would be a good setup. I chose the 4-10s because it was easier to design, took less space, and it just sounds cool when you tell people you have 4- 10s in the back. Everybody is like :eek: are you serious?

The biggest reason I went with the 4 sub setup was because I got them for 70% off at cardomain. I was planning on 1(ported) or 2(sealed) kicker CVR 12s.

Do you have a bench or bucket seats? Im stuck with a bench so I didnt have the option of making a custom box/ center console combo.

bryce-man
12-16-2007, 07:32 PM
... why didnt you just get a ext cab lol
i have an extended cab ranger and 2 12s ported at 4.6 cuft after displacement
and i can slide seats back almost all the way and recline all the way aanndd can still use the pas. jumpseat

atlninja82
12-17-2007, 08:31 AM
I currently dont have a camera good enough to take a decent video of them. I'll try to get a video camera from someone. I took that pic with my phone. They get pretty dang loud and have excellent sound quality. I would recommend this setup to anyone. If you could figure out a way to make a box big enough to fit two memphis 12s in there I think it would be a good setup. I chose the 4-10s because it was easier to design, took less space, and it just sounds cool when you tell people you have 4- 10s in the back. Everybody is like :eek: are you serious?

The biggest reason I went with the 4 sub setup was because I got them for 70% off at cardomain. I was planning on 1(ported) or 2(sealed) kicker CVR 12s.

Do you have a bench or bucket seats? Im stuck with a bench so I didnt have the option of making a custom box/ center console combo.

sorry if im hijacking your thread. i will pm instead if you would like. but anyways yea man please get a video. i would love to see those things pound and see what they are capable of. but i have a bench seat as well and i know, it *****. but the only time i appreciate it is when my girlfriend is riding with me :thumbsup: haha but anyways yea how many watts you got goin into those puppies? and those are p1's correct? hows the sq on them? but also the other reason i was thinking of 2 12's is because 4 10's wouldnt have that much of a difference in cone area and the mrmphis m class's have only 5.5 mounting depth so it should work out just great. plus when i had a single 12 jenson in my truck i though it was loud so i dont think i will be dissapointed either way. haha

thanks,
-eric

97gmcsierra
12-17-2007, 05:34 PM
I will try to borrow a camera some time this week and get a good video. Yes they are P1's and the sound quality is awesome. I have a Soundstream 1000D amp wired at 2 ohms so its only about 800 watts. The subs arent rated for 150rms a piece anyway so its about right with a little extra head room. My phone takes videos but not very good ones and they are only 15 seconds long, but I may try to take one and see how it does.

atlninja82
12-17-2007, 09:14 PM
yea man if you could do that for me that would be great. you can actually just pm it to me if you dont mind.

-eric

singlefordrange
12-18-2007, 11:48 PM
Good lookin setup! Yeah i am going to try and hear four tens sealed before i decided to go with that but i think that is an excellent idea!

Didn't like the way extended cab rangers looked and got a good deal on a single cab so i went for it...and wrecked it...now i have a 1996 regular cab chevy with a propane conversion so it has a propane tank in the bed! Good deal on it to...$1500. Wanted a vehicle that was paid for so the price was right!

Jdizzle
12-19-2007, 12:01 AM
i have about 4cubes net to work with in my standard cab isuzu hombre (S-10) but then again im 5 8" with the seat all the way up comfortably

97gmcsierra
12-20-2007, 01:22 AM
Ok, here are some teaser videos from my phone. They are horrible quality, but it is from a phone. Anyway, I will try to get some good ones this weekend or next week when I go to my dads(he has a good video camera).

I layed a carpenters square in teh bed so thats the rattle that sounds like cans rattling. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3q2xstyLBc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVK2vZYJ8mI

Wow, I just realized you cant see the subs flexing at all. I gotta get a better video.

atlninja82
12-21-2007, 08:19 PM
yea the quality isnt that great but thanks for the vid anyways. i appreciate it. when i get my system in ill send you a few videos.