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HarleyF150
11-28-2007, 01:06 PM
Just got a avalanche...again and I need some new 6.5 comps. The last ones I worked with were the diamond audio D661s powered by a diamond d3 400.2. Honestly, the midbass was completely lacking to me and the sound just wasnt the cleanest at high volumes but they were better than anything i had purchased in the past. The deck was a pioneer 8600 or something and it was all installed professionally. What components are in the 150 to 225 range that should take care of my needs?? Plan on getting a amp for about same price new used or ebay that will give them plenty of power. lets say 2x150@4ohms. Basically just trying to get a nice front stage setup and deck for right now. Plan on adding a 10 or 12 possibly in the future. Thanks for all your help. This place never lets me down.

Thanks, HarleyF150

HarleyF150
11-28-2007, 01:26 PM
Just to show you guys some sets I have been looking at:

1. the diamond D6's again but with a cleaner stronger amp
2. cdt cle61cv ...have read good things on the forums
3. eclipse sc6500's...(need opinions on these..power?, sq?)

Thanks and any other recomendations are appreciated.

tcguy85
11-28-2007, 09:21 PM
even though they are a lot cheaper (especially on ebay) if you want nice mid-bass look into the Phoenix Gold RSD's. the mid-bass is killer and the rest of the spectrum sounds sweet as well. i love my set!

audiobahnuser18
11-28-2007, 09:23 PM
I have a BNIB 6.5 component set never seen power at all . have pics if intrested $150 shipped.

DejaWiz
11-28-2007, 09:27 PM
I have a BNIB 6.5 component set never seen power at all . have pics if intrested $150 shipped.

6.5 set of what?

audiobahnuser18
11-28-2007, 09:29 PM
oh my bad never said oops. Massive CK6 stage 2 comp set.

DejaWiz
11-28-2007, 09:38 PM
oh my bad never said oops. Massive CK6 stage 2 comp set.

That's a good deal on those.

HarleyF150
11-28-2007, 09:48 PM
tcguy: Thats what I have read. I'm considering them and a profile 2x160rms@4 thats supposed to be a good clean amp. then i would have money to dampen the doors as well. hmm? what do you think?

audiobahn never heard of those man..so

Thanks and keep opinions coming

DejaWiz
11-28-2007, 09:51 PM
You can check them out here:
CK6 page (http://massiveaudio.com/home/index.php?content=php/product&id=21) Manual (http://massiveaudio.com/home/php/uploads/CKII-manual-final.pdf) factory direct price (http://massivemulti-media.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4&products_id=36)


The RSd's, Profile amp, and some deadener will def treat you right.

HarleyF150
11-28-2007, 10:01 PM
Dejawiz: would the ck6's be much better than the rsd's? The rsds are only 130 shipped online and he is selling the ck6's for 150..only 20 diff. is the midbass exceptional as well on the ck6's?

thanks

audiobahnuser18
11-28-2007, 10:05 PM
CK6s very good midbass like i said i never ran the set i had but i have heard them first hand:D.

tcguy85
11-28-2007, 10:06 PM
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The RSd's, Profile amp, and some deadener will def treat you right.

i agree 110%!

DejaWiz
11-28-2007, 10:07 PM
Dejawiz: would the ck6's be much better than the rsd's? The rsds are only 130 shipped online and he is selling the ck6's for 150..only 20 diff. is the midbass exceptional as well on the ck6's?

thanks

I've never heard them, only read about them. If you get the RSd's from Audio Savings (http://search.stores.ebay.com/AUDIOSAVINGS-ELECTRONICS-SUPERSTORE_rsd65cs_W0QQfciZ12QQfclZ4QQfsnZAUDIOSAV INGSQ2dELECTRONICSQ2dSUPERSTOREQQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQf subZ0QQsaselZ116576208QQsofpZ0QQsubmit2ZSearch), the price difference really widens. Just depends on what you want to do/try out.

audiobahnuser18
11-28-2007, 10:08 PM
Lmk if your intrested man if you want i can also post up have many pics:D.

HarleyF150
11-28-2007, 10:09 PM
the rsd's will not be worse than the diamonds i had will they anybody??

audiobahnuser18
11-28-2007, 10:14 PM
here are some pics for ya man:D.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s226/ngugraphics/IMG_1446.jpg
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s226/ngugraphics/IMG_1449.jpg
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s226/ngugraphics/IMG_1448.jpg

HarleyF150
11-28-2007, 10:34 PM
the build quality on those does look a little nicer than the rsd's yet i havent read any reviews or anything on your comps. any reviews available?

tcguy85
11-28-2007, 10:37 PM
the build quality on those does look a little nicer than the rsd's

the build quality is excellent on the rsd's. sure they don't look to beefy, but they sure do sound like it.

Firmbiz94
11-28-2007, 10:46 PM
They have those ck6's on hifisoundconnection if you want to look at the specs. they look pretty impressive.. im also torn between comps right now. The rsd's are hard to resist for the price and the reviews ive been reading

audiobahnuser18
11-28-2007, 10:55 PM
Ill save you sometime man . here are the specs of those CK6 stage 2 comps for ya:D.

http://massiveaudio.com/home/index.php?content=php/product&id=21

HarleyF150
11-28-2007, 11:26 PM
going to have to think on that. What would be a good cheap deck with 4 volt pre outs. Right now leaning towards the pioneer 4900 or the eclipse cd4000 considering they are only about 150. any other recomends on that? I like eclipse and alpine bu most in my price range are only 2 volt pr eouts. still open for speaker suggestions as well. dont think i can beat that profile for the price.

thnks

audiobahnuser18
11-28-2007, 11:28 PM
Alright man well lmk if your intrested:)

tcguy85
11-28-2007, 11:32 PM
Alright man well lmk if your intrested:)

why are you selling your set? why aren't you going to use them?

HarleyF150
11-28-2007, 11:48 PM
tcguy: in your opinion what is the next step up form the rsd's with matched excellent midbass?
also, do you think it would be a better idea to get the profile for the comps and a seperate amp for the sub when i add it or go for just one amp. The sub will be sealed and need at least 400 w rms

tcguy85
11-28-2007, 11:55 PM
tcguy: in your opinion what is the next step up form the rsd's with matched excellent midbass?
also, do you think it would be a better idea to get the profile for the comps and a seperate amp for the sub when i add it or go for just one amp. The sub will be sealed and need at least 400 w rms

i haven't had experience with to many sets of comps. i have used the rsd's and the infinity kappa perfect 6.1's. i do not recommend any infinity speakers for car audio. i love their home audio though.

there is a set of pioneer comps that get spoken very highly off as well. i can't remember the name though.

i prefer having seperate amps but as long as you can get something that puts whatever power you need to everything then it should be fine.

audiobahnuser18
11-28-2007, 11:58 PM
tcguy sent ya a pm.

tcguy85
11-29-2007, 12:00 AM
tcguy sent ya a pm.

PM'ed ya back!

HarleyF150
11-29-2007, 01:12 PM
Anyone, the RSD's sound like the way to go for 100 or less but does anything sound noticeably superior in the 150 range? I'm sure their are many that beat out the rsd's...anyone??

DejaWiz
11-29-2007, 01:13 PM
Anyone, the RSD's sound like the way to go for 100 or less but does anything sound noticeably superior in the 150 range? I'm sure their are many that beat out the rsd's...anyone??

Probably not in that price arena for similar sound reproduction.

grampi
11-29-2007, 03:29 PM
Anyone, the RSD's sound like the way to go for 100 or less but does anything sound noticeably superior in the 150 range? I'm sure their are many that beat out the rsd's...anyone??

Maybe Cerwin Vega V-Max 65? Or JBL P650C? Or Orion HCCA 6.2?

dimond
11-29-2007, 06:07 PM
y dont you try deading your doors with the Diamond comps, i had no problem with mid bass with them. Obviously if you deaden your doors with the PG RSD its going to be different.

jkulysses
11-29-2007, 07:55 PM
there is a set of pioneer comps that get spoken very highly off as well. i can't remember the name though.

i prefer having seperate amps but as long as you can get something that puts whatever power you need to everything then it should be fine.

Pioneer REV's I believe is what their called. They are very nice and around $170 or so but I'm not sure if they are nice enough to pay that much more for. I wouldn't.

HarleyF150
11-30-2007, 06:20 PM
Well I guess I will be going with the RSD's but I am still unsure about the profile 2x160@4 or going with the blaupunkt velocity 2100 2x100@4 which one is more solid clean sounding?

DejaWiz
11-30-2007, 06:46 PM
Well I guess I will be going with the RSD's but I am still unsure about the profile 2x160@4 or going with the blaupunkt velocity 2100 2x100@4 which one is more solid clean sounding?

If you go with the Blau amp, get the VA2200, not the VA2100. Set the gains to deliver around 2x150w to the RSds.

Gary S
11-30-2007, 08:08 PM
PPI 356cs or Cerwin Vega V-Max 65.

HarleyF150
12-02-2007, 07:03 PM
How about Elemental Designs eDi 6000s v.2? How would they compare to the rsd's? Thanks

HarleyF150
12-03-2007, 11:23 AM
RSD's ordered. For 80 bucks if they aren't to my standards ill just throw them away and get a new set. Thanks for the input. I will be going with the profile amp mentioned in this thread. How exactly should it be set? Thanks, Harleyf150

DejaWiz
12-03-2007, 11:28 AM
RSD's ordered. For 80 bucks if they aren't to my standards ill just give them to DejaWiz and get a new set.

Fixed! :D

HarleyF150
12-03-2007, 10:18 PM
can someone pm me the site for those profile amps?!the 2x160 for like 86. thanks

DejaWiz
12-04-2007, 09:31 AM
In case anyone hasn't gotten back to you yet:

http://www.millionbuy.com/prfap1000.html

tcguy85
12-04-2007, 01:32 PM
Fixed! :D

nice! lol

HarleyF150
12-04-2007, 10:07 PM
ok also ordered a CRUNCH PZi-1000.1 to power my 12" Diamond D6 dual 2ohm sub, the profile ap1000 to power the rsd's, 40 sq ft of edead sound deadener, and a PIONEER DEH-P590IB. I think that about does it for now. should i get some speakers for rear fill and just run them off the deck? Also i am going to have plenty of power to run this stuff huh? Thanks

DejaWiz
12-04-2007, 10:25 PM
Should i get some speakers for rear fill and just run them off the deck?

Also i am going to have plenty of power to run this stuff huh? Thanks

Nah, don't worry about rear fill for now until you get everything installed, run it for a couple/few weeks, then make the determination if you feel rear fill is necessary.

You should have adequate power for everything, yes.

HarleyF150
12-05-2007, 12:43 AM
Thanks, install is going to be around $350. They are putting the sound deadener on as well as install everything.. and i will have to buy some kind of $100 GM interface or soemthing for my 04 Avalanche "because it is not a true ignition"? This is what I was told anyways. Maybe someplace to get this for cheap online? Thanks

HarleyF150
12-11-2007, 01:17 PM
The RSD's came in today. Not to shabby of a speaker by looks and feel. Expect a full review once they are installed here in a week. They will be getting fed 150 wrms per side. Thanks

DejaWiz
12-11-2007, 01:51 PM
The RSD's came in today. Not to shabby of a speaker by looks and feel. Expect a full review once they are installed here in a week. They will be getting fed 150 wrms per side. Thanks

Looking forward to it!