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jibberjive
11-22-2007, 06:08 AM
So if you were to have a shop by you custom build this box for you, how much do you think they would charge? A few details about the box: it has a double layer baffel, .75'' MDF used, swappable port system (one for tuning to 50-ish hz and DD port at 32hz), 3.5-4ft^3, incredible attention to detail (ports have 45degree elbow to reduce turbulence, ALL edges rounded, quality bolt terminals, every possible seam caulked, dowel bracing as well as a brace to help hold the weight of the port, etc). Thanks!
Sorry for the big pics
http://jibberjive.webng.com/jibberjive/album/audi/dscn2204.jpg
http://jibberjive.webng.com/jibberjive/album/audi/dscn2200.jpg
http://jibberjive.webng.com/jibberjive/album/audi/dscn2203.jpg
http://jibberjive.webng.com/jibberjive/album/audi/dscn2228.jpg

IamDeMan
11-22-2007, 08:39 AM
Why did you post this twice. 1 section, not all, mmmkay.

OneKrazyKeebler
11-22-2007, 08:53 AM
250?

PV Audio
11-22-2007, 12:11 PM
Nothing at all. Could build it better myself to my own specs.

jibberjive
11-22-2007, 03:20 PM
Why did you post this twice. 1 section, not all, mmmkay.

Not all, just two:) This is more along the lines of this section as it is an enclosure build thread, but look where I got the most helpful responses;) That's why I posted it in both. and PV audio, that's the whole point, I did build this myself to my own specs, but as far as it being to your own specs, that's why I said custom. How much would this cost to be built to your own specs from a shop (not yourself)?

hatemonger
11-22-2007, 03:25 PM
Not all, just two:) This is more along the lines of this section as it is an enclosure build thread, but look where I got the most helpful responses;) That's why I posted it in both. and PV audio, that's the whole point, I did build this myself to my own specs, but as far as it being to your own specs, that's why I said custom. How much would this cost to be built to your own specs from a shop (not yourself)?

why do you care? selling it?

jibberjive
11-22-2007, 03:41 PM
why do you care? selling it?
Possibly selling it (don't necessarily want to but it's huge and I want to possibly try with fiberglass), but to a buddy so I don't want to rip him off. I don't want to rip myself off either though cause this box actually took me a long time to build and was quite a pain. Just trying to get some real world figures:)

Jeremy M
11-22-2007, 03:53 PM
lol i went to a car audio place here and i asked about a box for my dd9515, and they quoted me at $500. They tried to tell me the cost alone on the materials was about $150.

so i'm sure u could get a good penny outta that box

theothermike
11-24-2007, 03:07 AM
id say that type of box looks very nice btw, im guessing a good price selling to a friend would be 175 - 200 but i bet u could sell it for 250

Pimpdaddyq
11-24-2007, 03:12 AM
I think it looks nice.. I'm thinking 150 or so would be a great price for a friend.. worth a lot IMO for anyone, being its a nice box, but hook your buddy up..

Andrew

hoxie08
11-24-2007, 03:14 AM
lol i went to a car audio place here and i asked about a box for my dd9515, and they quoted me at $500. They tried to tell me the cost alone on the materials was about $150.

so i'm sure u could get a good penny outta that box

jesus christ man!

mobeious
11-24-2007, 09:18 AM
i build boxes here on the forums and for that box i would charge around 200-250

PSturmer
11-24-2007, 04:13 PM
seeing they used a nail gun and couldnt get the nails in correctly i would say its not a good box. i started to use a nail gun a for awhile on my tester box's, but it doesnt make a good tight seal. and i absolutely hate the idea of a removable port. spl box's and daily driver box's are much different than just tuning. in some case's tuning +/- 10hz will only yield .1 db difference. fisher customs would have been much better.

NeverEnuffBass
11-24-2007, 04:26 PM
seeing they used a nail gun and couldnt get the nails in correctly i would say its not a good box. i started to use a nail gun a for awhile on my tester box's, but it doesnt make a good tight seal. and i absolutely hate the idea of a removable port. spl box's and daily driver box's are much different than just tuning. in some case's tuning +/- 10hz will only yield .1 db difference. fisher customs would have been much better.

The purpose of using a brad nailer is to hold the wood together until the glue dries. I hope you used wood glue on the tester boxes. If they were comming apart, you didn't use enough glue.

Death By Bass
11-24-2007, 04:31 PM
The purpose of using a brad nailer is to hold the wood together until the glue dries. I hope you used wood glue on the tester boxes. If they were comming apart, you didn't use enough glue.

but how do you clamp the pieces together while nailing them?

you can shoot a nail through your arm and into a wall, but your arm wont actually be nailed to the wall...

*dont try this

realistically, you're selling a second hand box, it appears to have about $80 worth of materials maybe, so its probably worth $100...

I normally sell second hand boxes for the cost of materials, or less... you haven't custom made this box for someone, you made it for yourself, and are now selling it second hand.

jibberjive
11-24-2007, 11:06 PM
Though it technically is a second hand box, it's not really second hand in that I just want to get rid of it and move on. It's only a couple months old and when my buddy listened to it he said he wanted to buy it, but I'm debating because I love the box and I put so much effort into making it not too long ago. I'm thinking it may be a good time for me to start experimenting with fiberglass though so we'll see. And no matter who a box's owner was intended to be when it was built, it is still a "custom" box when made for the specific speaker and application, though this is just semantics. If you'll sell me a killer box of this caliber for $100, let me know when you have any and I'll most likely take them off your hand real quick. EDIT- Just saw that you're in Australia.
And about the nailer, a couple nails did get a little squirrely on me (maybe 4 or 5 on the whole box), but when it happened I noticed it and secured it with another nail that actually went in. This was my first box that I've made with the nailer, but I have to say I'm very impressed and will be making all of my future boxes with the nailer if it's available. It definitely feels every bit as solid as my previous boxes with screws. Like NeverEnuff said, the nails and screws are to simply hold the box tight while the glue dries. If your box wasn't tight when you used nails, use glue as well next time (if you didn't the first time), or work on your clamping. I was under the impression that the majority of the box makers here, who do a decent amount of volume, use a brad nailer. And that nailing arm to the wall analogy doesn't really apply here because if the nail had, say a 2" head on it (or conversely if your arm had the density of wood) and you shot it through your arm into the wall, your arm would indeed be nailed to the wall;)
As for the swappable port system, this isn't the first box I've made with it, and in every case it's worked pretty well (for it's intended application, which is most definitely not for the balls out pure spl competitor, rather the guy who wants to have a good daily box but have a little edge when going out to local competitions). More than just the tuning is changed with the ports on this box though. If you look at the 2nd 3rd pic you'll see the daily port, and the SPL port is in the 4th pic. I don't remember exactly, but the SPL port has like twice the port area and is obviously tuned higher so it increased the internal area by a good amount as well. With this being said though, I didn't have much time to experiment with boxes and the new car before I had to build it and I definitely feel that my SPL results would have been a little bit better if I would've made it with a little less internal volume and a little less port area (I know this goes against conventional thinking, but with this same speaker I previously had much better results this way.)

PV Audio
11-24-2007, 11:36 PM
Wow, learn to use paragraphs.

otsaudio07
11-24-2007, 11:40 PM
i really didnt fell like reading all that.... narrow it down to a sentence plz.

PV Audio
11-24-2007, 11:47 PM
i really didnt fell like reading all that.... narrow it down to a sentence plz.The box is in good condition, and the shoddy nail-work is not actually shoddy.

miker
11-25-2007, 01:17 AM
Looks pretty nice...

I would say ~ 10$/ hour of work + 75% of material costs.

PSturmer
11-25-2007, 01:59 AM
The purpose of using a brad nailer is to hold the wood together until the glue dries. I hope you used wood glue on the tester boxes. If they were comming apart, you didn't use enough glue.

still used glue of coure. but it just doesnt hold the pieces of wood tight together while drying

jibberjive
11-25-2007, 02:14 AM
The box is in good condition, and the shoddy nail-work is not actually shoddy.

lol, exactly:)

PV Audio
11-25-2007, 03:29 PM
still used glue of coure. but it just doesnt hold the pieces of wood tight together while drying...Yeah, they do. Metal fasteners, whether screws or nails, are actually the weakpoints of the enclosure. This is because they stress the wood in those spots because you're inserting something thick into the solid substance. Even when you pre-drill, if you're too close to the edge, you can still split the wood. I say metal fasteners only because dowels and biscuits are actually stronger, because they are made of wood also and can expand and take the bond further into the wood instead of just making a hole and shoving a piece of metal into it.

savagebee
11-26-2007, 03:25 AM
Ive done my last two enclosures with a brad nailer.. one of them was over 10 cubes vented with 2 18"s.. and it was much easier to use, and it appears to be more solid as well (no way to actually measure it..

just clamp it down as you are nailing it together to get the seals tight then nail away.. I will always use a brad nailer from now on