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jnoel
11-18-2007, 09:47 PM
i sold him a lambo door kit that belonged to my friend. He recieved them and they was missing 2 small pieces and had a bad berring....i told my friend and he said that he would pay for the missing pieces and the falty berring.(which is cheaper than a refund) .at first snoopdan agreed then he changed his mind....and said he wants a full refund..i told him that my friend didnt have the money but if he shipped them back to me, once recieved i would take care of it. and make my buddy pay me back...he refused this and threatened to start a thread with pics of the kit and say that i'm a scammer my question to yall is how am i a scammer if i give him two realistic options?????? he told me that if my next pm was anything except "your payment has been sent" then he ws starting a thread...so my reply to him is..take my two offers or kiss my azz i think i have ben more than fair and tryed to work with him as much as possiable...i sold them as is.....i dont even know anythign about them.....so.................how am i a scammer

jnoel
11-18-2007, 09:55 PM
i have given every single detail of the transaction....also he only payed 250 shipped and it cost 1000 new

tEh koRnDog
11-18-2007, 10:04 PM
ima go get some beer also to go with my popcorn and cigg

Grab me one...

22mountaineer
11-18-2007, 10:04 PM
here we go....

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what does that have to do with anything.. maybe two out of the 33 might post. If you lucky

CrazedCat
11-18-2007, 10:05 PM
lambo kits are ghey, especially if your tall :(

most who buy them are mexican :fyi:

bdawson72
11-18-2007, 10:05 PM
Revrider is there any reason why you have double the posts that any other user has in this thread?

revrider1
11-18-2007, 10:05 PM
Grab me one...ok

Dozy_production
11-18-2007, 10:06 PM
why is snoopdan a big deal? Just like any other person matter of fact.

tEh koRnDog
11-18-2007, 10:07 PM
ok

Good idea.

Ill grab the pretzels.

shavenblazer
11-18-2007, 10:07 PM
why is snoopdan a big deal? Just like any other person matter of fact.

x2 i just wont to hear what he got to say.

NEXT
11-18-2007, 10:07 PM
I love this ***t, these threads are like crack and you guys are like crack fiends.......

revrider1
11-18-2007, 10:08 PM
x2 i just wont to hear what he got to say.Yes, as do I...

hoss
11-18-2007, 10:09 PM
I love this ***t, these threads are like crack and you guys are like crack fiends.......

and youre here too :)

slick rick
11-18-2007, 10:10 PM
2 sides to every story...should be interesting.

SQBubble
11-18-2007, 10:11 PM
:popcorn:

jnoel
11-18-2007, 10:11 PM
if he says anythign different than what i have told you he's a god Dam lyar..i will show his pm's if i half to

hoss
11-18-2007, 10:12 PM
if he says anythign different than what i have told you he's a god Dam lyar..i will show his pm's if i half to

go ahead and do it and get it in the public. cut any BS off before it happens.

jnoel
11-18-2007, 10:13 PM
250 for some uni doors... WOW, **** him. let him start a thread, you have nothing to do with it. He said that there was some ****ed up parts which you have no clue about and you even said you will get it solved when you dont even know about it and then he threatens you. **** him, just ignore him and let him take it how it is.

thank you

Flipx99
11-18-2007, 10:13 PM
I think I am going to start a thread saying Flipx99 is a scammer.

groundpound4200
11-18-2007, 10:13 PM
im gonna go mix a drink... WTF is this dude??

hoss
11-18-2007, 10:13 PM
I think I am going to start a thread saying Flipx99 is a scammer.

want me to start it for you?

jnoel
11-18-2007, 10:14 PM
heres his last pm

Flipx99
11-18-2007, 10:14 PM
sure.

I will post pics of my root beer float

jnoel
11-18-2007, 10:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jnoel
look like i told you i sold them for a friend....he agreed to pay for any missing or falty parts..and at first you were cool with this then you change your mind.....so i am not scamming you if i agreed to fix the problem...then i offered to take care of all of it by myself if you ship back....i got to watch my azz too..i ben scammed 2 time on here..and it's not happening again...end of subject...theres two options you have.....what's the problem

You know ive done hundreds of purchases / sales on here over the years, I dont scam anyone. You sold a defective item (and I dont care if your selling it for your grandmother, its just business). The item has problems that would have to be sent back to the manufacturer for repair (such as the bad bearing, and replacement of the upper hyme joint for the gas strut). Somehow, I dont think your "buddy" is going to pay for shipping the item to the company, get the new items paid for and installed, and then shipping it back to me since he cant even come up with the cash to give you the refund money. I mean, how stupid do you think I am ?

I tell you what though, if your reply is anything but "your payment has been returned to paypal" then expect video and pictures within an hour posted.

SeanDub
11-18-2007, 10:15 PM
Hmmm, I wonder what bs he will come in here with.

jnoel
11-18-2007, 10:15 PM
his is the bottom paragraph..i coppied and pasted from my pm box

hoss
11-18-2007, 10:15 PM
sure.

I will post pics of my root beer float
http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3656610#post3656610 :)

NEXT
11-18-2007, 10:16 PM
:toast:
and youre here too :)



its like a bad car wreck, I cannot look away

Flipx99
11-18-2007, 10:17 PM
I see his point, but he should at least give you the opportunity to fix it. That is what a real dealer would do.

revrider1
11-18-2007, 10:17 PM
hmmm...

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11-18-2007, 10:17 PM
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tEh koRnDog
11-18-2007, 10:17 PM
It all depends on what is needed to be repaired, how intensive it is, and how much it would cost.

He has a valid point that it would make no sense to go through all that trouble, when a simple refund would be easy enough.

pioneerpimp
11-18-2007, 10:18 PM
who spells liar lyar? the i is one letter away from the y

pioneerpimp
11-18-2007, 10:18 PM
snoopdann is in here, let the fight begin

hoss
11-18-2007, 10:18 PM
It all depends on what is needed to be repaired, how intensive it is, and how much it would cost.

He has a valid point that it would make no sense to go through all that trouble, when a simple refund would be easy enough.

a refund was offered by the OP :fyi:

pioneerpimp
11-18-2007, 10:18 PM
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go****

SQBubble
11-18-2007, 10:18 PM
he left...??:(

NEXT
11-18-2007, 10:19 PM
Fighter you ready?

Fighter you ready?

LETS GET IT ON!!!!!!!!!!!

shavenblazer
11-18-2007, 10:19 PM
he left...??:(

FAIL

pioneerpimp
11-18-2007, 10:20 PM
****in ***** copped out, you know he did it. jnoel wins by default

Flipx99
11-18-2007, 10:21 PM
he prolly went to PMs

revrider1
11-18-2007, 10:21 PM
lets go now...

jnoel
11-18-2007, 10:21 PM
he's viewing my old thread about the doors to find anything to use against me..casue he realizes that i'm right, i checked his profile to view what he's doing

tEh koRnDog
11-18-2007, 10:22 PM
a refund was offered by the OP :fyi:

Gah!

Im sick and delusional.

bk12321
11-18-2007, 10:22 PM
he's viewing my old thread about the doors to find anything to use against me..casue he realizes that i'm right, i checked his profile to view what he's doing

stalker

jnoel
11-18-2007, 10:23 PM
stalker

lol....

iagrdshaka
11-18-2007, 10:24 PM
post up screenshots of the PM's

groundpound4200
11-18-2007, 10:24 PM
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f159/hooperm/ohsnap.jpg

jnoel
11-18-2007, 10:24 PM
post up screenshots of the PM's

how do i do that...i only know how to copy and paste

matrxx dude
11-18-2007, 10:25 PM
he is gathering evidence for his case.lol

93EXT
11-18-2007, 10:25 PM
"print Screen"

then paste in MS paint or something.

Flipx99
11-18-2007, 10:25 PM
It is either control or alt, then print screen, save to paint, upload to host of your chocie

matrxx dude
11-18-2007, 10:26 PM
well if they could work it out in pm's it would be better.

jnoel
11-18-2007, 10:26 PM
"print Screen"

then paste in MS paint or something.

explain a lil more....if i click print preview it's too big for the screen...

revrider1
11-18-2007, 10:27 PM
he is gathering evidence for his case.lolAgreed

J31Rob
11-18-2007, 10:28 PM
I know Dan to be a stand up guy? Met him a couple times, bullshitted w/him, dunno why he'd do this?

Hope it all gets sorted out & works out for both of you.

:)

RipDaJacka
11-18-2007, 10:28 PM
wow $250 shipped is a steal!! I woulda just sent it for repair myself instead of being an ***

93EXT
11-18-2007, 10:28 PM
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/7361/jnoelhowtoer4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Kinda like that :D

bk12321
11-18-2007, 10:29 PM
explain a lil more....if i click print preview it's too big for the screen...

im so confused

just hit the print screen button on ur keyboard, and then go into paint and hit "paste" and itll paste an image into paint

then save it as a jpeg and upload to imageshack.us

93EXT
11-18-2007, 10:29 PM
Resize and crop are our friends.

jnoel
11-18-2007, 10:30 PM
i will try it

tRidiot
11-18-2007, 10:33 PM
I don't know... I think Snoop may be right. If he is indeed correct and it is going to be that much hassle to get it taken care of, then it is the seller's responsibility to make it right. He may be jumping the gun by asking for a refund before sending you the stuff back, but be real, man... if he sends it back to you, then you decide to screw him, he's got absolutely no recourse, including via PayPal or CC. With no money and no (damaged) product.

I think it's retarded of you to be bringing up how much he paid, as if that makes any difference. If you asked $250 and he paid $250, then that's a deal. Now you're trying to claim that he shouldn't be picky because he got a (supposedly) good deal? **** that, man... if you sold him broken **** (your responsibility as the seller to completely list condition), then even if he paid $10, it's still a bad deal. The only way it's NOT a bad deal, is if you told him specifically before shipping that they were broken/defective and needed repair that only the manufacturer (or a specialist of some kind) could provide... if you didn't tell him that, then you ****ed up, whether you knew about it or not.

He may be jumping the gun just a bit on the timing, but then again, so are you, trying to badmouth him before he can do it to you. You're no better than him, and in fact, I'd consider you to be worse... he didn't pay for his transaction with a faulty credit card, did he?

jnoel
11-18-2007, 10:33 PM
im so confused

just hit the print screen button on ur keyboard, and then go into paint and hit "paste" and itll paste an image into paint

then save it as a jpeg and upload to imageshack.us

i opened the pm then hit print screen on my keyboard and it did nothing..even if i highlighted the whole pm

nismos14
11-18-2007, 10:35 PM
He's prob mad because he got a great deal and expected to get his doors done for cheap, now that he can't he's upset.

jnoel
11-18-2007, 10:35 PM
I don't know... I think Snoop may be right. If he is indeed correct and it is going to be that much hassle to get it taken care of, then it is the seller's responsibility to make it right. He may be jumping the gun by asking for a refund before sending you the stuff back, but be real, man... if he sends it back to you, then you decide to screw him, he's got absolutely no recourse, including via PayPal or CC. With no money and no (damaged) product.

I think it's retarded of you to be bringing up how much he paid, as if that makes any difference. If you asked $250 and he paid $250, then that's a deal. Now you're trying to claim that he shouldn't be picky because he got a (supposedly) good deal? **** that, man... if you sold him broken **** (your responsibility as the seller to completely list condition), then even if he paid $10, it's still a bad deal. The only way it's NOT a bad deal, is if you told him specifically before shipping that they were broken/defective and needed repair that only the manufacturer (or a specialist of some kind) could provide... if you didn't tell him that, then you ****ed up, whether you knew about it or not.

He may be jumping the gun just a bit on the timing, but then again, so are you, trying to badmouth him before he can do it to you. You're no better than him, and in fact, I'd consider you to be worse... he didn't pay for his transaction with a faulty credit card, did he?


i really dont give a ***** what you think.....i tryed to work it out with him and didnt try to work with me...it woudl be cheaper to get them fixed than to refund..but i didn deny refund..i offered it but he's crazy if he thinks i'm gonna send him money out of my pocket..and hope he ships the doors.....

fbi90909
11-18-2007, 10:37 PM
don't highlight anything. just open the PM, hit PRTSCRN/SYSRQ. nothing will happen. just open MS Paint. click on Edit, in the sub menu click on Paste. after the image of the screen shot appears click on File, sub menu Save As. save to jpeg/jpg. then upload to whereever.. it's so easy a 9 yr old can do it. :/

Flipx99
11-18-2007, 10:37 PM
I don't know... I think Snoop may be right. If he is indeed correct and it is going to be that much hassle to get it taken care of, then it is the seller's responsibility to make it right. He may be jumping the gun by asking for a refund before sending you the stuff back, but be real, man... if he sends it back to you, then you decide to screw him, he's got absolutely no recourse, including via PayPal or CC. With no money and no (damaged) product.



Hassel or no hassel, this is how business is done. When I have to ship my 880 off to wherever Don tells me to, it is a bunch of hassel for me, but I know the rules of the game. Having the manufacturer repair the unit is a good and available option. If I bought it from a dealer BNIB, I would expect for him to send it off just the same. Is it a hassel for the customer. Yes.

I suppose I have the same expectations of forum members as I do of a normal business and expect them to operate in a similar fashion.

jnoel
11-18-2007, 10:37 PM
the price listing was only to show how much he payed so then people could see that it would b cheaper for me to pay for the missing/falty parts

snoopdan
11-18-2007, 10:37 PM
I dont have a problem with Jnoel, however I do have a problem with the item he sold me. The lambo door kit he sold me had a missing gas strut mount and the main pivoting bearing was damaged. At first, I had just noticed that the shock mounts were missing and I emailed jnoel with the link to the company that makes the parts to replace it with. Of course, I was willing to work with him and just have him replace that part. Im pretty reasonable like that. He even called me to make sure this arrangement was ok, and I agreed - hell its just a couple of parts. So I agreed for him to replace the parts and got off the phone. I proceded to look closely at how the mechanism of the door arm bearings and noticed that the drivers side mech had unacceptable bearing play in it. For those of you who have installed bearings of any sort before, you know the whole reason that you replaced the bearing was that there was a large amount of play in it. So I emailed Jnoel and told him that i'd rather have my money back on the item since the kit has missing peices and is not even functional (or safe for that matter, im sure none of you would appreciate a door falling off a hinge and breaking your head).

Now the email that I sent to him was nice and civil (I can even post it here if need be) asking him to refend my money. As soon as he gets it, he of course starts whining about "well I sold it for a friend and he's spend the money on insurance" ---- :uhoh: so what? He needs to take care of his business. He sold an item that he clearly had no idea how it worked, or if it was damaged or not because he didnt care. Now he wants to get an attidute when he's the one being a **** poor seller? No.... I dont think so. I asked him to just repay my money and then he sends me one last email saying "Your money is in your paypal account" .... then immediately starts this thread.

If thats not childish, I dont know what is. Look, you sold an item and had no idea what kind of shape it was in or if you were selling a non functional item - and then you ***** when someone asks you for a refund ? :confused: What am I missing here ??


I tell you what though, you all make the call. Here is a pic of the bearing joint. For those who dont know how lambo doors work, the armature im moving in the pic is attached to the door once its raised (and isnt supposed to move at all at this point).... can you imagine the amount of play in that once you add a 300 lbs door ????? :eek: It will be swinging in the wind like a parasail

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j211/snoopdan1/jnoel_crap_kit.gif

And let us not forget the two shock mounts that are completely missing from the kit. Kinda hard to mount this thing without it. I mean, clearly if he would of looked at the kit and how it was assembled Jnoel would of realized that the thing had parts missing :rolleyes:

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j211/snoopdan1/jnoelbs.gif

So please just deposit the money back into my account, I told you I already agreed to even pay for the shipping back to you (and the kit is 30 lbs).

tRidiot
11-18-2007, 10:38 PM
Well, based on your reaction not only to him but to anyone who disagrees with you and then bringing up that you think he should be willing to eat **** because he got a supposedly "good deal"... bah... you make the case for yourself. lol It's typical immaturity, instead of trying to be professional and adult about straightening things out.

Oh well... you got his money, so you won. But I think you've damaged your own rep here in how you're handling the situation.

revrider1
11-18-2007, 10:39 PM
ahhh...

10,000 for me...

jnoel
11-18-2007, 10:40 PM
imageshack isnt working

85Caprice4d
11-18-2007, 10:42 PM
oh snapz

2kchevy06civic
11-18-2007, 10:43 PM
hmmmmm

SkatinBassPLaya
11-18-2007, 10:43 PM
what the hell! 59 members viewing and 4 pages of a thread up less then an hour ago!

is that a record?

jnoel
11-18-2007, 10:44 PM
he never said i could pay him once i recieved the kit..he told me it wsa out of question...i really dont give a ***** you can act like a childish lil girl if you would like...i was trying to be nice and work with you.....oh well

revrider1
11-18-2007, 10:45 PM
He did make a good point though about safety, i wouldnt want that thing falling on my head...

jnoel
11-18-2007, 10:45 PM
Well, based on your reaction not only to him but to anyone who disagrees with you and then bringing up that you think he should be willing to eat **** because he got a supposedly "good deal"... bah... you make the case for yourself. lol It's typical immaturity, instead of trying to be professional and adult about straightening things out.

Oh well... you got his money, so you won. But I think you've damaged your own rep here in how you're handling the situation.

shut the fu(k up

tEh koRnDog
11-18-2007, 10:46 PM
shut the fu(k up

Your immature.


I gotta say, Id never do business with you.

tRidiot
11-18-2007, 10:46 PM
Based on Snoop's well-written reply, with accompanying images and coherent statements, contrasted with your nearly illegible first-strike type of character assassination (he still hasn't attacked you personally as you have him), I'd say he's definitely coming out better in this battle. lol

You're the one coming off like an overreacting child.

Good job.

matrxx dude
11-18-2007, 10:46 PM
here we go.lol

BobbyDD
11-18-2007, 10:47 PM
Snoopdan wins!

tRidiot
11-18-2007, 10:47 PM
Haha... like I said, man, you're making the case for not dealing with you.

Good job!

SQBubble
11-18-2007, 10:48 PM
lol at this thread, snoopdan wins, also, i wouldnt trust anyone with Ronnie Peay in their reference:uhoh:

RipDaJacka
11-18-2007, 10:48 PM
okok here let me compromise this


MR. Dan what would you like done?



and Justin what would u like done?


we can have a great compromise in this muhfucca

2kchevy06civic
11-18-2007, 10:48 PM
After reading snoop dans response and him providing pictures to back it up, I say you have lost sir. Unless we are missing something but I think snoop should be refunded.

matrxx dude
11-18-2007, 10:50 PM
did you tell him before you sold him these things were wrong

RipDaJacka
11-18-2007, 10:50 PM
Based on Snoop's well-written reply, with accompanying images and coherent statements, contrasted with your nearly illegible first-strike type of character assassination (he still hasn't attacked you personally as you have him), I'd say he's definitely coming out better in this battle. lol

You're the one coming off like an overreacting child.

Good job.


just let it be.. you, nor I, have a dog in this fight :cool: shall i have a compromise thread? by god, i will start one if need-be

jnoel
11-18-2007, 10:51 PM
well i told him i would pay for the parts or i would repay him for the kit once i recieved it this is his option..he can take it or leave it...how many stores can you go to and say..i wana refund but i cant give you your stuff back today.....if my idea was not professional then i dont know what is.....

tRidiot
11-18-2007, 10:51 PM
Hmmm... last I checked the only people who had a dog in this fight were the OP and the buyer... yet this was posted by the OP specifically to get it out in the open for discussion.... which is exactly what's occurring here.

hoss
11-18-2007, 10:52 PM
After reading snoop dans response and him providing pictures to back it up, I say you have lost sir. Unless we are missing something but I think snoop should be refunded.

a refund has been offered, i think the current stand off is over who will make the first move.

snood is saying he wants the money refinded first, a fair request. while other guy is saying send the piece back to him and he will refund upon arrival, which i think is also a fair request. honestly, i wouldnt refund anything without having the item back first, but i would also like to think i have the refs to back that up.

and to whoever wants a compromise... snood ships it back COD, fair to everyone.

roarzorz
11-18-2007, 10:53 PM
I tell you what though, you all make the call.

Sounds to me like you received an item "Significantly not as described". IMO a refund is in order.

XaznKewLguyX
11-18-2007, 10:53 PM
zzzzz

bdawson72
11-18-2007, 10:53 PM
well i told him i would pay for the parts or i would repay him for the kit once i recieved it this is his option..he can take it or leave it...how many stores can you go to and say..i wana refund but i cant give you your stuff back today.....if my idea was not professional then i dont know what is.....



Doesnt really matter.


Your thread has backfired and you have fucked yourself.

benzmansl65amg
11-18-2007, 10:54 PM
Snoop and Jnoel are both well known this is very interesting SUBSCRIBED

jnoel
11-18-2007, 10:55 PM
Doesnt really matter.


Your thread has backfired and you have fucked yourself.

oh well...i really dont care...i tryed to be reasonable....but he turned me down.....if you tell me somewhere that you can go and ask for a refund and tell them..ummm im not giving you your stuff back right now...then let me know...

hoss
11-18-2007, 10:55 PM
Snoop and Jnoel are both well known this is very interesting SUBSCRIBED

its really not as interesting as you might think.

22mountaineer
11-18-2007, 10:56 PM
a refund has been offered, i think the current stand off is over who will make the first move.

snood is saying he wants the money refinded first, a fair request. while other guy is saying send the piece back to him and he will refund upon arrival, which i think is also a fair request. honestly, i wouldnt refund anything without having the item back first, but i would also like to think i have the refs to back that up.

and to whoever wants a compromise... snood ships it back COD, fair to everyone.



This sounds like the only answer to this problem... PERIOD

-COD FTMFW-

J31Rob
11-18-2007, 10:56 PM
I don't personally think it's anyone's business about what is going on between the two of them..
Nor should anyone think their opinion would hold any type of importance relevant to the situation.

Dan is a grown man, as well as JNoel.. do we need a baby sitter for you two?

Figure it out. It's not hard. Let Dan ship it back, give him the money back..

It's as easy as that, right? People will be people.. there will always be problems, just gotta take a step back & look at how to DEAL with the problem..

and again, good luck to you both, hope it works out well for the both of you.

tEh koRnDog
11-18-2007, 10:56 PM
Snoop and Jnoel are both well known this is very interesting SUBSCRIBED

Maybe you should try taking care of your own business.

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=272291

hoss
11-18-2007, 10:58 PM
:ohsnap: unexpected pwnage.

tRidiot
11-18-2007, 10:58 PM
Bwahahaha

jnoel
11-18-2007, 10:59 PM
I don't personally think it's anyone's business about what is going on between the two of them..
Nor should anyone think their opinion would hold any type of importance relevant to the situation.

Dan is a grown man, as well as JNoel.. do we need a baby sitter for you two?

Figure it out. It's not hard. Let Dan ship it back, give him the money back..

It's as easy as that, right? People will be people.. there will always be problems, just gotta take a step back & look at how to DEAL with the problem..

and again, good luck to you both, hope it works out well for the both of you.

man i tryed to pay him..i told him that it wouldnt happen until i recieved the doors..so in my opinion...i dont give a **** what he thinks now...i only started the thread cuase he said he was gonna do it to me..he was like..you dont htink i will...try me!!!...so i was like fukkk it..i will do it myself

22mountaineer
11-18-2007, 11:00 PM
I don't personally think it's anyone's business about what is going on between the two of them..
Nor should anyone think their opinion would hold any type of importance relevant to the situation.

Dan is a grown man, as well as JNoel.. do we need a baby sitter for you two?

Figure it out. It's not hard. Let Dan ship it back, give him the money back..

It's as easy as that, right? People will be people.. there will always be problems, just gotta take a step back & look at how to DEAL with the problem..

and again, good luck to you both, hope it works out well for the both of you.

Funny how you say its noones business but the OP brought it out in the open to let everyone know and to discuss. WTF do you think he made the thread for?

He just wants to know what he should do to be a "man" about it. So WTF are you talking about? :confused:

Flipx99
11-18-2007, 11:01 PM
I am glad the mods got my back and delete threads that say I am scammer

RipDaJacka
11-18-2007, 11:03 PM
I do believe in Snoop's rep and I personally know jnoel is a good guy.. here is my offering to this affair.. since Paypal is an instantaneous form of money then I propose the item be shipped 1st and tracking # sent to jnoel for security purposes and upon recieving the tracking #, the money be sent via paypal..

so for the SpEcIaL people

1) Dan ship package
2) PM the tracking #
upon recieving the #
3) jnoel send the money
4) live happily ever after

Sounds fool proof unless snoop ships wrong product (while will verify he is a scammer) or jnoel never send paypal (which will verify he is a scammer)

J31Rob
11-18-2007, 11:04 PM
Funny how you say its noones business but the OP brought it out in the open to let everyone know and to discuss. WTF do you think he made the thread for?

He just wants to know what he should do to be a "man" about it. So WTF are you talking about? :confused:

One of them was going to do it, regardless. As JNoel said, if he didn't, Snoop was going to.

When I say it's no one elses business, I mean they shoulda kept it via PM, just like any scenario.
It's not like someone is gonna go beat up Snoop or vice versa.. like in some other recent situations.

All I'm saying is that we've got some grown people acting like little kids.
I wish they'd make maturity into a powder so some people could put it in drinks/food & use it daily..

Not knocking JNoel or Snoop, just saying this in general.

loudmofo
11-18-2007, 11:04 PM
cc chargeback ftw

hoss
11-18-2007, 11:06 PM
I do believe in Snoop's rep and I personally know jnoel is a good guy.. here is my offering to this affair.. since Paypal is an instantaneous form of money then I propose the item be shipped 1st and tracking # sent to jnoel for security purposes and upon recieving the tracking #, the money be sent via paypal..

so for the SpEcIaL people

1) Dan ship package
2) PM the tracking #
upon recieving the #
3) jnoel send the money
4) live happily ever after

Sounds fool proof unless snoop ships wrong product (while will verify he is a scammer) or jnoel never send paypal (which will verify he is a scammer)

how in the world is something this rediculous considered to be fool proof?

shipping it back will be the closest to being fool proof. the only way it could fail is if jnoel gives a fake MO, in which case it becomes a federal matter. and should that happen snoop also has an address which can be verified and traced back to jnoel so it would be an open and shut case and jnoel would be an idiot for even trying it...

jnoel
11-18-2007, 11:08 PM
cant do a charge back with out a dispute..and paypal wont allow the dispute cause i offered refund once i recieved the stuff back..and not until then...i'm not loosing the money in hopes that he actually shipps the kit that he got...and nothing else..i want the box to see that the kit is actually inside...i relaly dont give a FUkkk about it...i tryed

snoopdan
11-18-2007, 11:10 PM
I just ask for my money back. I really at this point have no reason to trust him, I mean... I DID get a poor item sent to me that wasnt safe nor functional. On this aspect of trust (and since trust is important apparently to him since he doesnt apparenlty trust me that i'll send the item back once he pays me - which is dumb, i mean wtf am I gonna use it for now - a horse plow ?

Lets look at his original post again, shall we ?

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j211/snoopdan1/joellie.jpg

He mentions hinges, shocks and everything included, and that HE is selling the item....

But wait.....the hinge mounts for the shocks were not in the kit. He had no idea if they were there or not because he didnt look or know what he was looking at! Of course, this didnt quail his attempt to make some cash selling it.

But wait, didnt he say he was selling it for a friend :confused: .... hmmmm. :uhoh:

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j211/snoopdan1/jknol2.jpg

Yep, I think that would be lie #2 :uhoh:


So im not too trusting of him at this point. However, I AM trusting of paypal, and that once he moves my money back into my account, I wont have an issue anymore. Seems simple to me :confused:

J31Rob
11-18-2007, 11:10 PM
JNoel isn't a scammer, I've dealt w/him, so have MANY other people..
We all know Snoop isn't a scammer, as he's a well known name on ALL forums.

Also, it looks as if JNoel has dealt w/Snoop before (judging from list of references)..

What is the problem?!

iagrdshaka
11-18-2007, 11:11 PM
I love this ***t, these threads are like crack and you guys are like crack fiends.......

what?


what the hell! 59 members viewing and 4 pages of a thread up less then an hour ago!

is that a record?

No, now shut your pie hole little boy.


Doesnt really matter.


Your thread has backfired and you have fucked yourself.

indeed


Maybe you should try taking care of your own business.

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=272291

:laugh:

J31Rob
11-18-2007, 11:12 PM
iagrdshaka = useful to ALL threads. :rolleyes:

jnoel
11-18-2007, 11:13 PM
look he (my friend) had me put them on there b4 i sid it comes with hinges, shocks, everything included..the kit is brand new and has never been installed...they belong to a friend of mine he bought them brand new......i showed a pic of what all is inclueded...if you see somehting is missing that should b there..then you shouldnt of bought it...

tRidiot
11-18-2007, 11:15 PM
look he (my friend) had me put them on there b4 i sid it comes with hinges, shocks, everything included..the kit is brand new and has never been installed...they belong to a friend of mine he bought them brand new......i showed a pic of what all is inclueded...if you see somehting is missing that should b there..then you shouldnt of bought it...

Hahaha.... oh, great so now you're blaming Snoop for buying an incomplete set, when you specifically said it was complete? And brand new?

Good one. lol

jnoel
11-18-2007, 11:18 PM
it was brand new...and complete...that's how my friend purchased it...brand new....yes never installed....oh well i dont give a ****

jnoel
11-18-2007, 11:19 PM
if i sound like an *** hole i'm sorry..i'm just pissed..i tryed to work wit him and he denied my attempt..so the hell wit him.....

jnoel
11-18-2007, 11:20 PM
you guys can call me a scammer or a bad guy if you want..but i have always tryed to be a reasonable guy to everyone...and i got a lot of people that i have dealt with that would say that this is true......so call me what you want i really dont care

revrider1
11-18-2007, 11:21 PM
hmmm...

nismos14
11-18-2007, 11:21 PM
look he (my friend) had me put them on there b4 i sid it comes with hinges, shocks, everything included..the kit is brand new and has never been installed...they belong to a friend of mine he bought them brand new......i showed a pic of what all is inclueded...if you see somehting is missing that should b there..then you shouldnt of bought it...

Kit was obviously not brand new... how does a brand new kit have play in the bearing? And why were all the other pieces in bags instead of in original packaging?


Just refund the money, get the product back re-post it for sale with the proper informatoin.

J31Rob
11-18-2007, 11:21 PM
Yeh.

It's ****** the way he's treated you.

But someone has gotta man up in this scenario..
If both of you are stubborn, what are you moving towards?
Nothing.
Both just kinda sitting back, pissing in the wind.

Flipx99
11-18-2007, 11:21 PM
YOu aren't helping your cause. I feel like I am rooting for the Dolphins here.

snoopdan
11-18-2007, 11:22 PM
look he (my friend) had me put them on there b4 i sid it comes with hinges, shocks, everything included..the kit is brand new and has never been installed...they belong to a friend of mine he bought them brand new......i showed a pic of what all is inclueded...if you see somehting is missing that should b there..then you shouldnt of bought it...

you're right, people can clearly see everything in that pic well :rolleyes:

dude, I tell you what. In the interest of being a good businessman, i'll ship your kit back to you via UPS.

of course, there is some stipulations to this ....

1. You request the mods remove this slanderous thread. You know im not a bad buyer, the public knows im not a bad buyer/seller on here. Keep it real.

2. I'll post the tracking number here in a few minutes, so that everyone on the friggen planet can track the shipment at their leaisure (maybe even over a cup of tea)

3. If I do not get my payment back into paypal by end of business on the arrival date of the shipment, i'll then step into my car and arrive at your residence looking for you in Murray, KY ... .I dont live that far away :fyi: Its not a threat at all but it will be a "follow up visit" ;)

All you have to do is post in this thread "OK" if you are willing to comply with these simple terms...... nothing more, nothing less.

Im a reasonable man.

nismos14
11-18-2007, 11:22 PM
YOu aren't helping your cause. I feel like I am rooting for the Dolphins here.

It's hassle. http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3656742&postcount=67


Hassel or no hassel, this is how business is done. When I have to ship my 880 off to wherever Don tells me to, it is a bunch of hassel for me, but I know the rules of the game. Having the manufacturer repair the unit is a good and available option. If I bought it from a dealer BNIB, I would expect for him to send it off just the same. Is it a hassel for the customer. Yes.

I suppose I have the same expectations of forum members as I do of a normal business and expect them to operate in a similar fashion.



:fyi:

J31Rob
11-18-2007, 11:25 PM
Why not just meet up half way.. & trade. :)

If you two don't live THAT far from one another..

jnoel
11-18-2007, 11:27 PM
haha that's what you think..i live in nashville now.....

jnoel
11-18-2007, 11:27 PM
you should really come and pay me a visit

J31Rob
11-18-2007, 11:28 PM
Still only like a 2 hour drive.. 1 hour to meet, 1 hour home.

jnoel
11-18-2007, 11:29 PM
but for the holidays i'm gonna be at 421 apt1 south 8th st murray, ky 42071 same street as hospital..easy to find

snoopdan
11-18-2007, 11:30 PM
Dude, I didnt think it was that complicated.... all you had to do was say "OK".


Now i'll have to get the police involved. Are you SURE you want to go that route? :confused:

BobbyDD
11-18-2007, 11:30 PM
One of them was going to do it, regardless. As JNoel said, if he didn't, Snoop was going to.

When I say it's no one elses business, I mean they shoulda kept it via PM, just like any scenario.
It's not like someone is gonna go beat up Snoop or vice versa.. like in some other recent situations.
All I'm saying is that we've got some grown people acting like little kids.
I wish they'd make maturity into a powder so some people could put it in drinks/food & use it daily..

Not knocking JNoel or Snoop, just saying this in general.

spoke too soon

john3387
11-18-2007, 11:30 PM
:spank:

jnoel
11-18-2007, 11:31 PM
that's fine 2 of my brothers are local cops.....why you think you got to get the police involved....your loss

iagrdshaka
11-18-2007, 11:31 PM
iagrdshaka = useful to ALL threads. :rolleyes:

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/6362/motivator4126156jl9.jpg

john3387
11-18-2007, 11:32 PM
**** this ***** is getting serious!

nismos14
11-18-2007, 11:32 PM
spoke too soon

Who beat who up and when, I missed it :(

jnoel
11-18-2007, 11:33 PM
well i'm going to clean my room

BobbyDD
11-18-2007, 11:33 PM
Who beat who up and when, I missed it :(

just talk, like always

J31Rob
11-18-2007, 11:33 PM
Man, this is turning into a ***** match..

On some real ****, just grow up.
Don't let an emotion get in the way of reality.
This is petty.

J, just quit dude. Let it go.

jnoel
11-18-2007, 11:33 PM
i did..it's over....c ya i'm out

hoss
11-18-2007, 11:33 PM
well i'm going to smoke a blunt i will be back in a second

imma tell your brothers what youre doing.

ArrizX
11-18-2007, 11:33 PM
whoops replies to wrong page.

jnoel
11-18-2007, 11:34 PM
to do a screen....





go to your pm box.

hit "prnt scrn" key on your keybaord, usually above numeric pad or page up/down area.

then open paint and paste it. save it as whatever and make sure you save it as a jpeg save to desktop of something, then upload with imageshack.us

thanks man but it dosent matter any more...snoopdan..enjoy your lambo doors....and you can never say i didnt try to help

nismos14
11-18-2007, 11:34 PM
It's ctrl prt scrn, duh.

hoss
11-18-2007, 11:35 PM
randy savage gonna buhlete all your posts :fyi:

maroj248
11-18-2007, 11:35 PM
so i take it from reading all this, that snoopdan aint getting his money back? am i right?

john3387
11-18-2007, 11:36 PM
i think someone going to get one of their thinks back the money or the kit, after they meet

snoopdan
11-18-2007, 11:36 PM
that's fine 2 of my brothers are local cops.....why you think you got to get the police involved....your loss

So let me get this straight, you just turned down me shipping you your kit back at my expense and you've outright admitted that you will not send me my money back?? Just making sure of this so when I print this out this thread for the state police that this is indeed your position.


..... or, you can just send me my money back like I said as soon as you recieve the shipment..... Hell I ALMOST already printed out the UPS shipping label because I thought you wouldnt be as stupid as to not agree to the simple terms.

I mean, whats wrong with you :confused:

hoss
11-18-2007, 11:36 PM
so i take it from reading all this, that snoopdan aint getting his money back? am i right?

i think its looking that way.

jnoel turned out to be an unreasonable idiot. snood showed why he wasnt happy with the product, neither could come to a reasonable way to resolve the situation, jnoel went all e-thug. thats about it.

john3387
11-18-2007, 11:37 PM
the po po would care about this?

maroj248
11-18-2007, 11:38 PM
is this a case for judge judy?

john3387
11-18-2007, 11:40 PM
id watch this episode

snoopdan
11-18-2007, 11:45 PM
jnoel turned out to be an unreasonable idiot. snood showed why he wasnt happy with the product, neither could come to a reasonable way to resolve the situation, jnoel went all e-thug. thats about it.

Actually, ive mentioned at least twice now that id ship back the kit to him at my expense and he could deposit the money he owes me in paypal. Which means after shipping is all said and done, i'll be down at least $40 (due to the weight of the door kit) for being dumb enough to believe his references.

that sounds alot reasonable to me???


But he's said he'd rather go smoke some dope then to deal with the hand he's dealt for himself. (maybe he's smoking my money :verymad:) Dont you all think I should now just go to a detective in his county concerning this ?

ngsm13
11-18-2007, 11:46 PM
This is almost as bad as the Qben thread...

nG

maroj248
11-18-2007, 11:48 PM
Actually, ive mentioned at least twice now that id ship back the kit to him at my expense and he could deposit the money he owes me in paypal. Which means after shipping is all said and done, i'll be down at least $40 (due to the weight of the door kit) for being dumb enough to believe his references.

that sounds alot reasonable to me???


But he's said he'd rather go smoke some dope then to deal with the hand he's dealt for himself. (maybe he's smoking my money :verymad:) Dont you all think I should now just go to a detective in his county concerning this ?

i would just go to his house, and have a detective meet you there.

john3387
11-18-2007, 11:51 PM
again i dont think the cops will be able to do anything, can they? i know cops around my wait wouldnt. good luck snoop hope you get your money back!

2kchevy06civic
11-18-2007, 11:51 PM
wow Jnoel, way to man up. Snoop just made a pretty reasonable offer that was in your favor and yet you still turn it down :confused: :confused:

benzmansl65amg
11-18-2007, 11:54 PM
Maybe you should try taking care of your own business.

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=272291

why dont u worry about yourself my buisness is taken care of the item will be there

roarzorz
11-18-2007, 11:56 PM
Just to clarify, Snoopdan has agreed to Jnoel's terms of shipping the item back first and Jnoel is now refusing. (makes note never to deal with Jnoel)

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j211/snoopdan1/jknol2.jpg

Considering his friend spent the money and he said "I ain't got no money" I don't think he has any intentions of giving you a refund. Its looking like the title of this thread should be changed to Jnoel = Bad Seller.

delvryboy
11-19-2007, 12:00 AM
Probably because he don't have the money to refund :fyi: I would imagine he would get the kit back and hold off snoop for a bit while he tried to re-sell it.

matrxx dude
11-19-2007, 12:02 AM
why cant everybody be a man of thier word

snoopdan
11-19-2007, 12:03 AM
wow Jnoel, way to man up. Snoop just made a pretty reasonable offer that was in your favor and yet you still turn it down :confused: :confused:

I dont get it either :confused: I guess he's rather have some drama then take care of business.

I suppose i'll contact the authorities tomorrow morning and file charges. I have all the time in the world to persue a little kid who thinks he can get away with fraud (I guess he doesnt understand that now he's stepped up to theft via mail which is a federal offense). I'll probably spend my time this evening cutting and pasting all of this to give to the proper people tomorrow. IMO it would of just been easier for him to say "OK" :confused:

tEh koRnDog
11-19-2007, 12:16 AM
why dont u worry about yourself my buisness is taken care of the item will be there

Im sorry, but when I make a transaction on here, I make sure that everything is taken care of, that my buyer is fully aware of whats going on.

Unlike you, since you are a kid and have mommy take care of your business for you, and feel the need to not communicate with your buyer. Looking out for other members on here, due to the recent amount of scamming, is something Im willing to do.

And quite frankly, until you noticed that thread, and took care of your issues, you had no room to speak on this issue.

tRidiot
11-19-2007, 12:23 AM
I dont get it either :confused: I guess he's rather have some drama then take care of business.

I suppose i'll contact the authorities tomorrow morning and file charges. I have all the time in the world to persue a little kid who thinks he can get away with fraud (I guess he doesnt understand that now he's stepped up to theft via mail which is a federal offense). I'll probably spend my time this evening cutting and pasting all of this to give to the proper people tomorrow. IMO it would of just been easier for him to say "OK" :confused:

Sad it's turned out like this Snoop... this kid has definitely shown to the rest of the board what he's made of. I'm sure his brothers at the local police department will love how he's throwing their position around while in the midst of scamming someone and talking about his drug use.

Helluva guy here. lol

2kchevy06civic
11-19-2007, 12:26 AM
maybe he got some of that bomb a55 cat **** and it's fukin with his thought process :confused :confused:

maroj248
11-19-2007, 12:30 AM
if he shipped the lambo door kit, thru USPS, you could have filed a mail fraud complaint thru them, too.

yunvme666
11-19-2007, 12:35 AM
so after all is said and done , ya think hes gonna have to lower his 9518 more to sell it now???...lol...

snoopdan
11-19-2007, 12:53 AM
so after all is said and done , ya think hes gonna have to lower his 9518 more to sell it now???...lol...

He might have to for bail money :laugh:


Ive at least started some of the process tonight with paypal.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j211/snoopdan1/paypalpic.jpg



One saving grace he has is if he repays me the money ASAP.... then I wont persue any legal matters. But at this point, I plan to. And I really have nothing better to do all day this week than to get on the phone and deal with the correct law enforcement agencies to bring charges against him. I mean, he couldnt of picked a worse person to deal with on this :laugh:


After reading hundreds of other threads about scamming little kids on ca.com, maybe I can get some karma retribution for them all a bit by keeping on this boy's case.

bumpincrv
11-19-2007, 12:54 AM
Snoopdan are you gunna pm me back ever?

jnoel
11-19-2007, 01:00 AM
so after all is said and done , ya think hes gonna have to lower his 9518 more to sell it now???...lol...

it's a 9918

snoopdan
11-19-2007, 01:02 AM
ya bro, you got mail. And thanks for your sentiments in your email concerning this thread.

jnoel
11-19-2007, 01:02 AM
snoopdan..i didnt do anything illegal ..just check every law...you purchased something and i sent it...with no return policy......have a nice day

snoopdan
11-19-2007, 01:03 AM
it's a 9918

I thought you were out smoking my cash ? :confused:


Tell me though, whats wrong with people like you? Do you enjoy this kind of stuff ? Do you live for the e-drama or what? :confused:

jnoel
11-19-2007, 01:04 AM
no..i offered you a deal and you didnt take it when i offered it....sorry.....and you can file your little paypal claim but i didnt do anything wrong...just call them....you'll c

jnoel
11-19-2007, 01:05 AM
check it again...it says case closed

maroj248
11-19-2007, 01:05 AM
usually return policies only work when a buyer doesnt want an item. in this case, the item is not as described, so your return policy wont work.

snoopdan
11-19-2007, 01:06 AM
snoopdan..i didnt do anything illegal ..just check every law...you purchased something and i sent it...with no return policy......have a nice day

Thats where you're wrong. You sold something that was not as advertised and missing parts.


Thats fraud. Real simple.


Im guessing you'll never sell on ca.com again, which mean's im sure you'll slither over to some other fourm like ROE, ecoustics, or elsewhere and pull the same ****.

tRidiot
11-19-2007, 01:06 AM
See... now you're basically telling him to **** off... not a good way to protect your reputation (which you claim is good) on here. You do realize this, right? He's given you chances to save face, settle this honorably, etc., but you're just being a little ***** right now.

I am truly glad, though, because I might have one day decided to buy something from you, and I might have been the one getting scammed. Thanks for exposing this fraud, Dan!

lilmaniac2
11-19-2007, 01:06 AM
snoopdan..i didnt do anything illegal ..just check every law...you purchased something and i sent it...with no return policy......have a nice day

this is a nice way of looking at things. Good lucky selling your 500 dollar + speaker with something like this looming over head. If i know snoop he will go out of his way to ruin your sales. Probably in your best interest to do the right thing

ctmike
11-19-2007, 01:09 AM
snoopdan..i didnt do anything illegal ..just check every law...you purchased something and i sent it...with no return policy......have a nice day

fyi, actually you did break a law. posting the door kit was complete and when received the buyer finds out it's not. and j/w, but why not just pay back his money? cause if persued correctly this could cost you a bit more than the $250 he wants back.

ohh, and i think you should change what the bottom of your sig says. about only accepting paypal cause ofto many scammers online. looks like you might have turned into a scammer yourself.

snoopdan
11-19-2007, 01:12 AM
check it again...it says case closed

Oh I know, its just due dilligance as followup for the dispute. Its the basis for creating and filing a case against someone in a civil matter - you must prove that you've done your best to follow up in the matter.

I dont expect you to understand this, im sure you're in some sort of stupor at the moment.

jnoel
11-19-2007, 01:13 AM
naw actually i'm sittin back wondering why your being a little b!tch

lilmaniac2
11-19-2007, 01:15 AM
See your all acting immature as ****.
Snoop you ****ed up thinking he knowingly sent you a broken product and not taking him up on his offer of buying it back.
jnoel you ****ed up with the im done with you post.

Snoop can, if he feels, file a civil suit in small claims court but that requires him going to CT., filing it, showing up their on the court date, and proving it.

wrong :) he doesnt have to be there to file it :)

tRidiot
11-19-2007, 01:15 AM
naw actually i'm sittin back wondering why your being a little b!tch

Which is exactly what we're doing about you.... hmmmm.

I mean, it really doesn't make sense (to me). Although it does show that your 'offer' to allow him to ship the item back and refund him when it arrived was not likely legit in the first place, since now that he's accepted that, you've reneged on it.

lilmaniac2
11-19-2007, 01:15 AM
naw actually i'm sittin back wondering why your being a little b!tch

Nice attitude....

2kchevy06civic
11-19-2007, 01:16 AM
Nice attitude....

I thought the same thing.........

lilmaniac2
11-19-2007, 01:17 AM
You do know that if you have any pending problems with a current sale your not supposed to be able to post fs ads here anymore right?

snoopdan
11-19-2007, 01:23 AM
I have plenty of time on my hands to persue this :fyi:

You could make it real easy on yourself and refund the money, but as delveryboy said - you probably dont have the money since you've been trying to beg for cash for days now in your 9918 thread. And its not like you're going to sell that on here now, no one is going to touch you with a 10 foot peice of 1/0 gauge :laugh:

lilmaniac2
11-19-2007, 01:23 AM
if you pm randy savage snoop he should delete all of his for sale ads. It is in the Classified rules

lilmaniac2
11-19-2007, 01:24 AM
New Classified Rules

# No for sale threads solely to link your ebay auction or off site sales. People understand how to use ebay. If they want to look on ebay for an auction selling the equipment you are offering for sale, they know how. So don't spam them here.
# No offering items for sale while there is atleast one unresolved negative feedback thread about you.
# Absolutly no dealers, wholesalers, or mass items ads.

* This includes group buys and/or mass sale threads. Dealer or not, this is not allowed.

# No post dumping.

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2kchevy06civic
11-19-2007, 01:25 AM
pwned

snoopdan
11-19-2007, 01:29 AM
Thanks chad, im on it.

slick rick
11-19-2007, 02:34 AM
Snoop is right here..but threatening anything civil is a joke..court costs are more than what was paid for the kit. Just refund the man's $, send back the defunct kit, and call it an unfortunate event.

delvryboy
11-19-2007, 02:36 AM
Snoop is right here..but threatening anything civil is a joke..court costs are more than what was paid for the kit. Just refund the man's $, send back the defunct kit, and call it an unfortunate event.

That was offered. The seller refuses even though the buyer said he would ship first. :rolleyes:

DB_DRAG_SPL
11-19-2007, 02:42 AM
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b345/Undergr0undAssassins/towelie-1.jpg

Jep772
11-19-2007, 02:52 AM
gankstaaaa

slick rick
11-19-2007, 03:16 AM
That was offered. The seller refuses even though the buyer said he would ship first. :rolleyes:

Then he ***** at life and deserves to be threatened. :crazy:

CaliforniabOY5
11-19-2007, 03:32 AM
dunno if anyone caught it but....


who the f*ck has a 300lb door?

that is all...

IamDeMan
11-19-2007, 06:33 AM
I ain't reading all this ****. I read enough. I would request items be shipped back to me before I refunded any money as well. Once I received item back i would promptly refund out of my own pocket and attempt collections from said friend.

IamDeMan
11-19-2007, 06:37 AM
I don't personally think it's anyone's business about what is going on between the two of them..
Nor should anyone think their opinion would hold any type of importance relevant to the situation.

This is where you are DEAD wrong. As a community of traders it is all of our business. Especially once the sale has been brought public by either party.

snoopdan
11-19-2007, 08:32 AM
I ain't reading all this ****. I read enough. I would request items be shipped back to me before I refunded any money as well. Once I received item back i would promptly refund out of my own pocket and attempt collections from said friend.

You didnt read where he changed his story a couple of times, then lied publically about who's kit it was that he was selling, then finally admitted that he didnt care about the whole situation - said that his brothers are cops (like that matters, lol) and THEN mentioned he was going to sit back and smoke a hooter instead of taking care of his business.

IMO he should be banned from the site.

tapout
11-19-2007, 08:37 AM
I ain't reading all this ****. I read enough. I would request items be shipped back to me before I refunded any money as well. Once I received item back i would promptly refund out of my own pocket and attempt collections from said friend.

You should really read it. Very informing...but I'll give you the clifnotes....

jnoel is a scammer.

tapout
11-19-2007, 08:39 AM
Honestly snoop, I wouldnt send it back now without payment first. I dont believe you will get your money.

hoss
11-19-2007, 08:43 AM
Honestly snoop, I wouldnt send it back now without payment first. I dont believe you will get your money.

x2, jdouche has not done a single stand up act to show his integrity. he has lied, it has been proven over and over again, and then he acts like a little kid about it.

the burden has been shifted to him, seeing as how snoop has made attempts to right the wrong, and has been met with difficulty.

IamDeMan
11-19-2007, 08:51 AM
You didnt read where he changed his story a couple of times, then lied publically about who's kit it was that he was selling, then finally admitted that he didnt care about the whole situation - said that his brothers are cops (like that matters, lol) and THEN mentioned he was going to sit back and smoke a hooter instead of taking care of his business.

IMO he should be banned from the site.Yes that is douchelike behavior, i agree. He definitely has some maturity issues in the deal and lying is always bad policy. I was just saying what I would have offered. I of course wouldn't carry on like a schoolgirl or lied from the beginning either.

snoopdan
11-19-2007, 09:39 AM
Honestly snoop, I wouldnt send it back now without payment first. I dont believe you will get your money.


You're absolutely right, clearly trust in the seller isnt in order at this point.

Now im a proud owner of a huge doorstop :verymad:


You know, I like buying/selling/trading on ca.com - and its unfortunate even though this person had the ref's to back up his sale that he'd turn out to be such a piece of trash. It makes me not want to do business on here anymore, but again I do like getting deals and giving people a good deal on items as well so I dont know what to do exactly. I'll probably continue to buy/sell on here even though ive been burned. I will continue to be a good business person on here and if anyone ever has any issues with anything I sell on here, I always back up every transaction. But in the same train of thought that Flipx99 mentioned earlier - id like to expect that id be treated in the same business manner as I would treat others.

Ive emailed Randy Savage about this post and jnoel's multiple forsale threads but have heard nothing back. Hopefully the mods will close his threads before someone else gets scammed.

Flipx99
11-19-2007, 09:42 AM
Speak of the devil.


Believe it or not, snoopdan has a friend that lives in the Nashville area. You'd be surprised what kind of friends you make at car shows.

snoopdan
11-19-2007, 09:44 AM
Speak of the devil.


Believe it or not, snoopdan has a friend that lives in the Nashville area. You'd be surprised what kind of friends you make at car shows.

;)

Flipx99
11-19-2007, 09:47 AM
All in all, though I think you are out your $250. I could pay someone to damage his house, rape his mom, break into his car, etc but that won't get your money back.

Is there anything else you can do with the kit fabricationwise?

snoopdan
11-19-2007, 09:58 AM
All in all, though I think you are out your $250. I could pay someone to damage his house, rape his mom, break into his car, etc but that won't get your money back.

Thanks for the kind, generous and wonderful offer, but i'll persue legal channels initally this morning.


Is there anything else you can do with the kit fabricationwise?
Ive contacted the company already concerning the parts missing, allthough they've not replied as of yet. As far as the bearing is concerned, i'll also have to talk to the company about sending the mechanism in for getting a new bearing re-pressed back into it. Im sure that wont be cheap considering the shipping both back and forth as well as the parts.

Propimp
11-19-2007, 10:13 AM
MEH nM

snoopdan
11-19-2007, 10:16 AM
im sorry but if you take a print out of a thread on a car audio forum or any forum for that matter and give it to police as evidence... they will laugh. You can manipulate/edit it too easy. The police will not take it as evidence nor will it hold up in court. This i can say for sure in Florida and Washington and pretty sure about all other states as well, so good luck with that.

thanks for your support concerning scammers here on ca.com :rolleyes:

Propimp
11-19-2007, 10:23 AM
LOL, IF YOU THINK THAT IS SUPPORTING SCAMMERS, just trying to help you out so you can get things more relyable than an online forum chat.

J31Rob
11-19-2007, 10:28 AM
This is where you are DEAD wrong. As a community of traders it is all of our business. Especially once the sale has been brought public by either party.

Agreed. I just kinda think the end results should have been posted rather than everyone instigating the results..
It's a good possiblity if everyone hadn't been calling JNoel a "*****" & "scammer" & all this other stuff, Snoop probably would have got his money back.

No, I'm not sticking up for JNoel's actions, but I am stating an obvious fact that people panic when they're backed into a corner..

Flipx99
11-19-2007, 10:42 AM
If printing the stuff out doesn't work, how come dateline uses it as evidence in the catch a predator show?

Johnny Drama
11-19-2007, 10:49 AM
Locked...bcause of the spamming in here. Snoop and OP can work this out in PM if it hasnt already been.

From now on, please refrain from posting in these type threads if you have no dealings with the members.