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zeuolaxxx
10-18-2007, 12:15 AM
Hi fellas, I want a 2 way active but I don't know if choose between a midrange speaker or a midbass speaker.. so what you suggest..and why?

Rich B
10-18-2007, 12:16 AM
The answer depends on whether you're going to use a sub or not.

Midrange is made to play at higher frequencies, which would be best for blending with your tweeters.

Midbass plays lower, but is likely to not blend with your tweeters as well.

(Edited because I hit post reply before I was finished.)

zeuolaxxx
10-18-2007, 12:21 AM
The answer depends on whether you're going to use a sub or not.

Midrange is made to play at higher frequencies, which would be best for blending with your tweeters.

Midbass plays lower, but is likely to not blend with your tweeters as well.

(Edited because I hit post reply before I was finished.)

I am going to used 2 kicker l7 15" dual 4ohm.
But why the components used a midbass instead midrange?

Rich B
10-18-2007, 12:27 AM
Midbass plays lower, but if you're using subwoofers the mids (bass or 'range) should be high passed anyway so they dont muddy the bass from your subs.

Most people cross them over to play from around from 80hz up to 100hz, so having mids that can play lower (like midbasses can) arent necessary.

zeuolaxxx
10-18-2007, 12:29 AM
Midbass plays lower, but if you're using subwoofers the mids (bass or 'range) should be high passed anyway so they dont muddy the bass from your subs.

Most people cross them over to play from around from 80hz up to 100hz, so having mids that can play lower (like midbasses can) arent necessary.

so what you saying is that I have to used is the midrange speaker, right?

Rich B
10-18-2007, 12:35 AM
so what you saying is that I have to used is the midrange speaker, right?

As long as it can play down to 60 - 80hz, you should be fine.

Its more important to get a mid that can play cleanly up to the tweeter, as the soundstage depends completely on the mid and tweeter blending well.

squeak9798
10-18-2007, 12:37 AM
Midbass plays lower, but if you're using subwoofers the mids (bass or 'range) should be high passed anyway so they dont muddy the bass from your subs.

Most people cross them over to play from around from 80hz up to 100hz, so having mids that can play lower (like midbasses can) arent necessary.

80hz - 100hz is certainly midbass territory.

The OP needs a driver that can encompass both the midrange and midbass frequency ranges.....what most people just identify with the term "mid" or "midwoofer". You can argue that this is simply semantics.....but I would disagree. He'll be confused as he progresses if he thinks that 80hz - 100hz is considered "midrange" territory.


What size driver are you looking for ? There are plentiful options of both 6.5" and 5.25" drivers that can adequately play the midbass and midrange frequency bands.

zeuolaxxx
10-18-2007, 12:39 AM
As long as it can play down to 60 - 80hz, you should be fine.

Its more important to get a mid that can play cleanly up to the tweeter, as the soundstage depends completely on the mid and tweeter blending well.

look I have these speaker http://www.usspeaker.com/beyma%206MI100-1.htm they are midrange speaker..! it says 150hz - 6000hz.. But I lost the sound of 60hz..so you guys suggest change my speaker for midbass speaker?

squeak9798
10-18-2007, 12:42 AM
look I have these speaker http://www.usspeaker.com/beyma%206MI100-1.htm they are midrange speaker..! it says 150hz - 6000hz.. But I lost the sound of 60hz..so you guys suggest change my speaker for midbass speaker?

Read my post.

What you have is a dedicated midrange. You need a speaker that can cover both the midrange and midbass frequency ranges if you want to stay with a 2-way front stage.

So we need to know your budget, and what speaker size (I'm presuming 6.5")

Rich B
10-18-2007, 12:42 AM
80hz - 100hz is certainly midbass territory.

The OP needs a driver that can encompass both the midrange and midbass frequency ranges.....what most people just identify with the term "mid" or "midwoofer". You can argue that this is simply semantics.....but I would disagree. He'll be confused as he progresses if he thinks that 80hz - 100hz is considered "midrange" territory.


I was thinking he would be buying a comp set and just biamping that, where a listed frequency down to 80hz isnt unheard of, but you may be right, he might be thinking of buying seperate components and putting it together himself.

zeuolaxxx
10-18-2007, 12:45 AM
Read my post.

What you have is a dedicated midrange. You need a speaker that can cover both the midrange and midbass frequency ranges if you want to stay with a 2-way front stage.

So we need to know your budget, and what speaker size (I'm presuming 6.5")

6.5" or 7", and $400...I hear trance music!

zeuolaxxx
10-18-2007, 12:50 AM
I was thinking he would be buying a comp set and just biamping that, where a listed frequency down to 80hz isnt unheard of, but you may be right, he might be thinking of buying seperate components and putting it together himself.

someone here recommend me for midbass:

http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1604

http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=823

http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=8181

with a pair of tweeters..!

trunks9_us
10-18-2007, 01:51 AM
so would it be bad to have a component set 2way then by some mid range dome cause that is my plan in my setup to run a 3 way.

zeuolaxxx
10-18-2007, 08:38 AM
Buuump

ramos
10-18-2007, 02:47 PM
so would it be bad to have a component set 2way then by some mid range dome cause that is my plan in my setup to run a 3 way.

I wouldn't get dome mids unless the component set you are purchasing comes with a dedicated midbass driver. You would be better off buying a comp set that uses a smaller mid ( 4") and then adding on a dedicated midbass :)

ramos
10-18-2007, 02:49 PM
someone here recommend me for midbass:

http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1604

http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=823

http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=8181

with a pair of tweeters..!



So your back to going active now ? What happened with the components ? :)

trunks9_us
10-18-2007, 07:29 PM
So your back to going active now ? What happened with the components ? :)

this is what i have

http://www.zapco.com/prod/Speakers/Comp/2_CK-16.2_Comp_Frame.htm

this is what i am wanting to add to it.

http://www.zapco.com/prod/Speakers/Comp/KM-8.50_Frame.htm

So do you think this will be ok then?

zeuolaxxx
10-18-2007, 10:57 PM
So your back to going active now ? What happened with the components ? :)


I don't know.. I am really confused.. The problem is that I live in Dominican Republic so I can't go to a Focal or rainbow or boston acoustic dealer and test their products.. I want a pair of speaker 2 way.. But I don't know active or passive... I want loud, detail, crisp, amazin component or going active.. My favorite type of music is Trance Music. I am confused.. First I was deciding between focal k2p or Boston acoustic Z6.. but a guy here tell me that I can do an 2 way active.. using the peerless speakers..

ramos
10-19-2007, 07:48 AM
this is what i have

http://www.zapco.com/prod/Speakers/Comp/2_CK-16.2_Comp_Frame.htm

this is what i am wanting to add to it.

http://www.zapco.com/prod/Speakers/Comp/KM-8.50_Frame.htm

So do you think this will be ok then?



Good lord , that would be an awesome setup . I know someone with almost the exact same setup ( he's using the 4" mids instead of the domes ). Sounds amazing :)

ramos
10-19-2007, 07:49 AM
I don't know.. I am really confused.. The problem is that I live in Dominican Republic so I can't go to a Focal or rainbow or boston acoustic dealer and test their products.. I want a pair of speaker 2 way.. But I don't know active or passive... I want loud, detail, crisp, amazin component or going active.. My favorite type of music is Trance Music. I am confused.. First I was deciding between focal k2p or Boston acoustic Z6.. but a guy here tell me that I can do an 2 way active.. using the peerless speakers..



In order to run an active system you need a head unit or proccessor with crossovers built into it, and a seperate amplifier channel for each individual driver . It gives you better control over each individual speaker . :)

zeuolaxxx
10-19-2007, 02:31 PM
In order to run an active system you need a head unit or proccessor with crossovers built into it, and a seperate amplifier channel for each individual driver . It gives you better control over each individual speaker . :)

I can buy the memphis 16 x03, I have a kicker kx800.4.. but honestly what you recommend.. active or passive? going active or go with a components?