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ls2poweredgoat
10-05-2007, 01:36 PM
OK I'm going to attempt my first box build today, I already started a thread requesting what size box I should put my DB500 in....

These are the tools I have...

-Black and Decker circular saw, with laser beam guidance (like $50 at Walmart)
-2 sets of saw horses
-Makita cordless screw driver
-Porter Cable DA sander
-Level
-And the L shaped yard stick thing

Besides the obvious, such as the mdf and the wood, along with screws, do I have the right tools to make a decent box?

jdawg
10-05-2007, 01:57 PM
do you have air?

mattmcss
10-05-2007, 02:04 PM
jigsaw/router for cut-out for subwoofer ?

ls2poweredgoat
10-05-2007, 02:08 PM
Oops, forgot to mention, I do have a very nice jigsaw.

No air though...

thesandman
10-05-2007, 02:10 PM
dont forget glue

ls2poweredgoat
10-05-2007, 02:17 PM
dont forget glue

Yeah I forgot to mention that too.

I just don't know how the hell I am going to get a 4 x 8 sheet of MDF home. None of my friends have trucks. I could have HD cut the sheet in half, but I just measured my trunk and it's not 48" wide.

jdawg
10-05-2007, 02:24 PM
if you had air I was gonna say nail gun but..

how biga box? Home Depot sells the sheets in 2ftx4ft sections too, it might be 3x4 but anyways those should fit in you trunk/hatch, they are easier to work with too

Qbenjamin
10-05-2007, 02:28 PM
I wouldn't trust a circular saw to give you perfect cuts everytime. I have had some very bad experiences with them being not perfect cuts...........(Probably my shakey hand).

If you can get access to one, I would suggest using a table saw, and take that circular saw back to Walmart.

ls2poweredgoat
10-05-2007, 02:33 PM
I know the circular saw isn't the greatest, but it's all I have access to. It has a laser guided beam, which actually helps out alot.

I was thinking this box....http://img29.imageshack.us/my.php?image=25cubes32hz3125sqin0zp.png

It'd be for a DB500.

jdawg
10-05-2007, 02:35 PM
i always cut straight with a circ saw, of course I dont freehand it, I have a 5 ft level and a 3ft, make your mark, measure from the blade to the end of the flat metal part, clamp the level that distance. Straight every time. Acts the same as a table saw except you move the saw not the blade. Just takes longer to clamp up all that stuff. The ;evel acts as a fence like on a table saw. Speaking of if you can afford it grab some pipe clamps.

ramos
10-05-2007, 02:40 PM
Could always just use and uncut edge of the mdf as a straight edge as well . Just clamp it down tight and remember to account for the blade gaurd and blade width :)

jdawg
10-05-2007, 02:44 PM
Could always just use and uncut edge of the mdf as a straight edge as well . Just clamp it down tight and remember to account for the blade gaurd and blade width :)

i have done that too, any straight edge really, I just dont trust some old peice of wood i find, but I have used wood, angle iron, an old box, whatever

MrSwiss
10-05-2007, 06:14 PM
WHY would you need a level to build a box????

Frijoles24
10-05-2007, 06:18 PM
duh...u make sure its level!

bjfish11
10-05-2007, 06:49 PM
WHY would you need a level to build a box????

Probably to use as a straight edge for the circ saw. Allows him to have straight cuts, rather than free handing it.

MrSwiss
10-05-2007, 07:21 PM
never thought of that. then why have a circ saw with a laser sight???? i tell u what tho i would never use a circ saw to build a box, i would only use a table saw.

bjfish11
10-06-2007, 08:49 AM
I was under the impression he was just listing the tools he had, so he said he had a circ saw with laser sight. I have built boxes with a circ saw before.... if you use it with a straight edge, its no different than using a table saw, just takes much longer.

ramos
10-06-2007, 11:14 AM
I was under the impression he was just listing the tools he had, so he said he had a circ saw with laser sight. I have built boxes with a circ saw before.... if you use it with a straight edge, its no different than using a table saw, just takes much longer.

I have used **** near everything you can imagine to rip wood with. Use a table saw 90 % of the time. While using a circular saw may take a little longer sometimes . It has always seemed a little easier to cut larger pieces with the circular saw and a straight edge than using a table saw. Have you noticed the same ? :)

ramos
10-06-2007, 11:17 AM
never thought of that. then why have a circ saw with a laser sight???? i tell u what tho i would never use a circ saw to build a box, i would only use a table saw.



I don't , I got an old pos craftsman that I have been using 20+ years now . It's easier for less experienced individuals to have the saw physicaly follow a guide then to try and guide the saw via the laser. If I'm using the circular saw , and the cut is over 12" or so. I'm using a guide anyway. :)

Rattlebrain
10-06-2007, 11:20 AM
I have used **** near everything you can imagine to rip wood with. Use a table saw 90 % of the time. While using a circular saw may take a little longer sometimes . It has always seemed a little easier to cut larger pieces with the circular saw and a straight edge than using a table saw. Have you noticed the same ? :)

In my case, I use a circular saw most of the time. The fence on my table saw only goes to 14". I have a five foot long piece of aluminum that I clamp and use.

Rattlebrain
10-06-2007, 11:23 AM
oh and if your going to use screws to assemble your box, a counter sink is nice.

hasa68mustang
10-06-2007, 01:32 PM
hmmm dont think anyone mentioned a good set of clamps? especially if sometihng isnt quite as straight as it SHOULD be these are always good to have... ever try makign a box with a jigsaw =) those were the days...

bjfish11
10-06-2007, 06:04 PM
I have used **** near everything you can imagine to rip wood with. Use a table saw 90 % of the time. While using a circular saw may take a little longer sometimes . It has always seemed a little easier to cut larger pieces with the circular saw and a straight edge than using a table saw. Have you noticed the same ? :)

Well, with my table saw setup, its really easy to cut full sheets. I have a giant outfeed table, so I havent used a circular saw in quite some time.

But I would agree, if you just have the basic table saw, then it is quite a bit easier to rip it down with a circ saw first.

I'll see if I can find pics of my table saw...

ls2poweredgoat
10-06-2007, 06:11 PM
http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=262486

Check out the build log. :)

bjfish11
10-06-2007, 06:13 PM
Here are a couple pics ramos...

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/Shop034.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/Shop035.jpg