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CJL
10-02-2007, 09:44 PM
Tweets: Seas 1" textile dome tweeter (http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=45_229_270_324&products_id=1466)

Mids: SEAS Prestige 7" (http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=45_228_256&products_id=823).

Mid Amp: Kicker ZX200.2. (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_6591_Kicker+ZX200.2.html) Bridged @ 4ohm

Tweeter Amp: Kicker ZX250.2 (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_6569_Kicker+ZX250.2.html)

Crossover: Memphis 16-XO3 (http://cgi.ebay.com/MEMPHIS-AUDIO-16-XO3-3-WAY-ELECTRONIC-CROSSOVER-REMOTE_W0QQitemZ270167259704QQihZ017QQcategoryZ798 40QQcmdZViewItem) Chose this one because of the remote subwoofer gain control


How Does this look now? :up2somet::D

dragnix
10-02-2007, 09:48 PM
looks good.

As far as xover, it depends on ur budget. I've heard that the memphis xo-3 is a decent one also

Racerx250
10-02-2007, 09:50 PM
I'd like to offer some advice on that but I've only heard the amp in action. IMO its a good amp but I always like a little extra power for future upgrades.

96MaxGLE
10-02-2007, 10:00 PM
Take a look at the Peerless SLS 8's on Madisound. Not saying the Dayton's aren't a good choice. As far as a tweeter goes, you should look at larger format tweeters that play low. There's a few people on www.diymobileaudio.com that were using the 2" Aura whispers, which are more of a full-range driver, but mated good with a 2-way using 8's. Diymobileaudio is a VERY informative site for ppl wanting to run active. Your crossover is a good choice if your on a budget, there has been some noise issues with them. Although, I never had any with mine when I was using it.

Rich B
10-02-2007, 10:08 PM
I like the Vifa D26NC05 1" soft dome-

http://www.madisound.com/catalog/images/madisound/product/D26NC05.jpg

Same tweeter Soundstream used to use in their Reference line.

http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=153&products_id=1059

The various mounting options (surface, flush, angled) are like $5 extra, also on Madisound.

CJL
10-02-2007, 10:10 PM
looks good.

As far as xover, it depends on ur budget. I've heard that the memphis xo-3 is a decent one also

Does the Memphis have a bandpass filter? If i get this one,it will give me a reason to go all Memphis for my amps. :up2somet:


I'd like to offer some advice on that but I've only heard the amp in action. IMO its a good amp but I always like a little extra power for future upgrades.

I was thinking that also..I'd rather have headroom than exact power.


Take a look at the Peerless SLS 8's on Madisound. Not saying the Dayton's aren't a good choice. As far as a tweeter goes, you should look at larger format tweeters that play low. There's a few people on www.diymobileaudio.com that were using the 2" Aura whispers, which are more of a full-range driver, but mated good with a 2-way using 8's. Diymobileaudio is a VERY informative site for ppl wanting to run active. Your crossover is a good choice if your on a budget, there has been some noise issues with them. Although, I never had any with mine when I was using it.

Great info Thanks.

azbass
10-02-2007, 10:13 PM
just remember those tweeters are pretty large.

azbass
10-02-2007, 10:14 PM
and see if you can find a JL 450/4 thats a great amp to go active!

CJL
10-02-2007, 11:19 PM
just remember those tweeters are pretty large.

I know :crap: But most tweets on DIY sites are like that. Where can I find tweeters the size of the ones that come in components sets?

MiniVanMan
10-03-2007, 12:32 AM
The Dayton RS225 is not really a good option for a 2-way. The only way it's moderately feasible is if the 8"s are in kicks aimed on-axis. Then you'll need a good 24-36 db crossover to deal with the breakup nodes. The Aura Whispers have been met with success, but it's an acquired taste as upper end clarity, detail and sparkle suffer quite a bit. Most of the people using that setup use it in convertibles where top end is non-existent anyway.

The Peerless SLS8 that was mentioned is a great midbass driver, but for midrange duties, it's a great midbass driver. Look at the response graphs, it's useless above 500 hz.

For a tweeter, it's hard to beat the Seas Neo for the money. http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=633

There are a ton of Seas drivers in the Prestige line that perform excellently in a car door. It's a great start for the first time active setup.

CJL
10-03-2007, 12:57 AM
Thanks for the info! I will update my list when I decide on a another setup.


J/W.. Does Morel make a good product(tweets)?

CJL
10-03-2007, 05:07 AM
Updated list, How does it look now? ;)

T3mpest
10-03-2007, 05:47 AM
How about getting an sx kicker amp and using it for the crossover, very nice dsp....

DejaWiz
10-03-2007, 12:38 PM
For the price of the 2 amps and the crossover, why not look into the eD NINe.5 (http://www.edesignaudio.com/edv2/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=550)? It was pretty much brought to fulfill the needs of the diy'er crowd running active.

I know eD's past antics have left a very sour taste in many people's mouths, but I think for the price and feature set the NINe.5 offers, it's hard to look away.

MiniVanMan
10-03-2007, 12:45 PM
Nix the idea of an 8". They're just too hard to get to work well in a 2-way.

You'll get plenty of midbass from one of the RNX series Seas 7" drivers. Might I suggest the current boner (for a reason), the ER18RNX. That matched with the Seas tweeter is a great first time setup.

CJL
10-04-2007, 06:14 AM
Nix the idea of an 8". They're just too hard to get to work well in a 2-way.

You'll get plenty of midbass from one of the RNX series Seas 7" drivers. Might I suggest the current boner (for a reason), the ER18RNX. That matched with the Seas tweeter is a great first time setup.

So do you think the 7" driver(CA18RNX) i posted in my list would work in my (2-way)setup? If not i quess i will just have to go with the ER18RNX...

MiniVanMan
10-04-2007, 10:13 AM
The CA18 is a great driver, but the ER18 will offer a bit more upper midrange presence.

The CA18 is one of the easiest drivers in the world to work with. With no breakup node, you can mount these in your doors, provide a high pass in the 60-70 hz range and call it a day. You can basically run them full range with no ill effects. That makes them suitable to match with a number of tweeters out there, though I still suggest the Seas Neo. You could almost do a simple passive network for the tweeter (12db/octave slope at about 2800 hz) if you're willing to have some patience and try some various crossover points out. Though active is still the much easier way to go.

Either driver is a fine driver. The CA18RNX is well worth the money. The midbass performance will astound you.

Oh, this is all assuming that your doors will be properly treated.