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achapman
09-11-2007, 04:44 PM
I am having a difficult time finding and chosing a set of components that can take 150-175 watts RMS. I have a Alpine PDX4.150 that will power them off the front channel. The rear channel is bridged and will power a IDQ 12.

I was looking at the Image dynamics Chameleon CXS 64 component set. However, there isn't a place that stocks them that I can listen to them.

Anyone have any suggestions or feedback about those comps or another set to consider?

kross
09-11-2007, 05:14 PM
Rainbow, Focal, Hertz, etc..

tbasile1
09-11-2007, 05:36 PM
Rainbow, Focal, Hertz, etc..

x2

achapman
09-11-2007, 05:41 PM
I've looked at all them. Focal's seem to be rated all at like 75 watts rms. Rainbow's website is horrible and I can't navigate it for ****. Hertz has like 25 speakers under each category. Is there a online reseller that I can look at stuff that will be organized better?

xtremekustomz
09-11-2007, 05:47 PM
They can handle more power than what is listed. I mean....dynaudio lists their 3 way component set at 200 watts rms but when you look at individual drivers it says 100 rms for each driver. The passive crossovers might be the downfall.

Latina33
09-11-2007, 06:26 PM
Boston Pro60's

Rainbow CMX 265 Kicks

Diamond Audio S600s

Rock on, brother! :fro:

SQBubble
09-11-2007, 06:38 PM
judging by what they show for example the rainbow profi 2-way phas plug should handle 240rms ... cuz the cal26 is rated 120rms and the w 165 phase plug is rated 120rms.... idk why they put the whole component at 120rms, yes their website is confusing.

its_bacon12
09-11-2007, 06:46 PM
judging by what they show for example the rainbow profi 2-way phas plug should handle 240rms ... cuz the cal26 is rated 120rms and the w 165 phase plug is rated 120rms.... idk why they put the whole component at 120rms, yes their website is confusing.


ok. well when you cross the signal passively into 2 ways, you dont lose that much power unless the crossover is designed to dissipate some power. for example, 120 watt per channel at 100 hz will also be 120 watts at 10,000 hz and therefore each driver (tweeter and woofer) is each getting 120w rms. they overlap in the crossed section and thats where the impedance is halved because two voice coils of the same impedance are playing the same signal, but its usually 6-24db per octave so it wont affect the amplifier much playing 6 to whatever db down at a lower impedance

anyways i dont know if this makes that much sense but it does to me lol.. my brains kinda fried from economics homework so i dont know how well that came out

SQBubble
09-11-2007, 06:50 PM
ok. well when you cross the signal passively into 2 ways, you dont lose that much power unless the crossover is designed to dissipate some power. for example, 120 watt per channel at 100 hz will also be 120 watts at 10,000 hz and therefore each driver (tweeter and woofer) is each getting 120w rms. they overlap in the crossed section and thats where the impedance is halved because two voice coils of the same impedance are playing the same signal, but its usually 6-24db per octave so it wont affect the amplifier much playing 6 to whatever db down at a lower impedance

anyways i dont know if this makes that much sense but it does to me lol.. my brains kinda fried from economics homework so i dont know how well that came out

so you saying that you send 120rms to the xover and it will give 120rms to each driver( woofer and tweeter ) ?

idk im really confused now. lol

tRidiot
09-11-2007, 06:52 PM
CDT ES+ series. :D

Very nice.

kross
09-11-2007, 07:13 PM
judging by what they show for example the rainbow profi 2-way phas plug should handle 240rms ... cuz the cal26 is rated 120rms and the w 165 phase plug is rated 120rms.... idk why they put the whole component at 120rms, yes their website is confusing.

What if I had a 500 Hz sine wave, and amplified it to 240 watts, and sent it to the speakers, you think it will handle it fine?

SQBubble
09-11-2007, 08:44 PM
What if I had a 500 Hz sine wave, and amplified it to 240 watts, and sent it to the speakers, you think it will handle it fine?

idk , u tell me ?

azbass
09-11-2007, 09:22 PM
They can handle more power than what is listed. I mean....dynaudio lists their 3 way component set at 200 watts rms but when you look at individual drivers it says 100 rms for each driver. The passive crossovers might be the downfall.

yeah but their 3 inch voice coil should be able to handle some power :up2somet:

Trancer
09-11-2007, 09:34 PM
Hertz MLK or HSK165's

Boston Acoustic Z6's

Focal 165K2P

Im running into the same issue and those are a few that I am trying to choose from. Im running 220 watts rms X 2

filtor1
09-11-2007, 09:57 PM
Rainbow, Focal, Hertz, etc..

x3

Gary S
09-11-2007, 10:09 PM
Oz Audio is claiming their new sets will handle 250 per side.

Keep in mind that most comp sets are rated full range... whatever the range they have listed... but if you use a high pass crossover at 80hz, they might handle as much as double the power. So, if the speakers' specs say 70 watts RMS, 50hz - 22K hz, ... they might handle 140 high-passed around 100hz.

Some other high power speakers off the top of my head:

Almani s7-602c

Diamond D7

Critical Mass

The old Fosgate RF series