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99dango
09-09-2007, 03:01 PM
cdt or phoenix gold components??

budget is around $150

which will yeild better results with a sundown 100.4

any other suggestions also welcome

RipDaJacka
09-09-2007, 03:03 PM
PG will be cheaper.. I have the octane R's and they arent bad for $60 comps.. and I hear really good stuff on the PG RSD's

innsanes
09-09-2007, 03:06 PM
CDT EF with that price, or go with a for a used alpine type X

99dango
09-09-2007, 03:20 PM
you would suggest them over the cl-61??

DejaWiz
09-09-2007, 04:07 PM
RSd's. With 100w rms per channel or more, the midbass should get quite lively.

tbasile1
09-09-2007, 04:53 PM
RSd's. With 100w rms per channel or more, the midbass should get quite lively.

x1000000000000

on the RSDs

They can found for $90 on ebay

tcguy85
09-09-2007, 09:50 PM
i want a set of rsd's so bad.

99dango
09-09-2007, 10:45 PM
how much power can they take when set accordingly? that 100rms wouldnt be to much per side??

tcguy85
09-09-2007, 10:50 PM
how much power can they take when set accordingly? that 100rms wouldnt be to much per side??

people are giving them over 100 watts rms to each side with no problems. as long as it's clean power you'll be fine.

rmdl51
09-09-2007, 11:02 PM
I'm getting mines in the coming days (PG RSD's) and I'm willing to give them 150w rms per side with a ZX 650.4, I'll let you know after I install what do I think, I'm chosing that amount of power due all the recommendations from everybody around here, I hope I don't blow them since I still don't have much experience about this, hehe. anyways I'm not blaming anybody if I blow them it's my choice and I believe (by common sense) if they are as good as everybody describes those PG they should hold up pretty good. I'll keep you updated.

tcguy85
09-09-2007, 11:03 PM
please do, i will be picking up a set in the near future as well and would like another review.

Jacobman
09-09-2007, 11:54 PM
I give mine 150rms and they handle it fine.

99dango
09-10-2007, 12:49 AM
nice nice sounds like the cdt idea just got booted out the window

im going to go for the rsds

99dango
09-10-2007, 12:51 AM
how would 6.5" components front and back sound in a durango?? bad idea?? i have the power (100rms x 4) and i was wondering if anyones heard components front and back...

tcguy85
09-10-2007, 01:23 AM
it'll be fine but i'm a fan of not running rear fill. that is as long as your have a powerful front stage. in an suv rear fill might not be a bad idea but in my small car i'm gonnna try and run just fronts.

99dango
09-10-2007, 02:14 AM
cool cool im going to run the rsds all the way around and see how i like it....

tbasile1
09-10-2007, 02:24 PM
I personally would just stick to fronts in your car, rears are pointless in this situation

99dango
09-10-2007, 03:43 PM
really?? is there any particular reason, just trying to learn not trying to be an ***

DejaWiz
09-10-2007, 04:06 PM
Imaging and sound staging. Unless you have plans to run a true surround sound processor and play source media recorded in a surround sound format, there technically is no reason for more than front left and right speakers for stereo playback.

Thank the auto makers over the last couple decades for screwing up and distorting that simple truth. They advertise the fact that they've stuffed a dozen speakers in a car making people thing it's big and bad, but in reality it's nothing more than a sales gimmick.

Some people still prefer rear fill, so if you try fronts only and still want something coming from the back, don't feel bad about it! It's your vehicle and your system, afterall.

I'd recommend just starting with the basics: front comps and a sub stage. You might like the results so much that you won't have to spend extra money on more speakers and possibly more amps. ;)

tbasile1
09-10-2007, 04:32 PM
Very good explanation Wiz!

Plus I also think, with the rears most likely being in the doors of the SUV, your so close to them, and it wouldnt make much of a difference, you'll hear the comps up front fine, but with the rears so close, I dont know how much you would notice them

Just my 2 cents

99dango
09-10-2007, 07:32 PM
thanks guys im going to run only front components then....but what will i do with my other two channels on my sundown 100.4??

DejaWiz
09-10-2007, 08:41 PM
Bridge the amp and set the gains to deliver 110-150w rms per side on the RSd's? :D

tbasile1
09-10-2007, 09:27 PM
Bridge the amp and set the gains to deliver 110-150w rms per side on the RSd's? :D

:yumyum:

x2

LBC99
09-11-2007, 01:07 PM
I should receive the RSDs comps I ordered for my wife's car on Thursday, which means I'll be installing them on Saturday morning. I know you guys are all talking about giving them 100+ watts, but I'll be hooking them up to an Alpine mrp-f250 (40x4 rms).

I was origianlly planning on amping the rear RSD coaxials I bought for her car too, but now I think I might just bridge the amp for 100x2 rms and run the rears off the hu.

The wife really wants sound out of the back of her car. I guess I'll try both ways and see which she likes better.

Hoodlum007
09-11-2007, 01:33 PM
I am using the CDT and have been very happy, my brother had the RSD and they sounded good but one of the mids went out fast.
CDT CL's FTW!!

tbasile1
09-11-2007, 02:34 PM
I should receive the RSDs comps I ordered for my wife's car on Thursday, which means I'll be installing them on Saturday morning. I know you guys are all talking about giving them 100+ watts, but I'll be hooking them up to an Alpine mrp-f250 (40x4 rms).

I was origianlly planning on amping the rear RSD coaxials I bought for her car too, but now I think I might just bridge the amp for 100x2 rms and run the rears off the hu.

The wife really wants sound out of the back of her car. I guess I'll try both ways and see which she likes better.


Deff give the RSDs the power!!

DejaWiz
09-11-2007, 03:25 PM
Deff give the RSDs the power!!


Yep. Bridge the amp and run the coaxs off the HU. :)

UCF52
09-11-2007, 05:12 PM
I'm giving my RSd's 140w a side and they sound great!

tcguy85
09-11-2007, 08:36 PM
sweet deal guys, i can't wait to order a set. 125-150 watts per door sounds like it should be **** loud.

tbasile1
09-11-2007, 09:13 PM
You should be very pleased!

Give us a review!


And make sure to deaden your doors!!

tcguy85
09-11-2007, 09:22 PM
You should be very pleased!

Give us a review!


And make sure to deaden your doors!!

i ordered the deadener today (30sqft of Edead v1se for the doors alone), should have it friday. i have to wait another couple weeks to order the speakers and amp and rca's and stuff.

when i get it all in i'll give it a review on here for sure. i can't wait for this killer mid bass everybody speaks of with these. i wonder how much the deadener will help while i'm running my stock pioneer speakers.

Jacobman
09-11-2007, 11:45 PM
Im tempted to lower my rms on mine, currently at 150rms per side and sound like there trying to tear the freaking doors off, lol. Amazing, cant wait till you guys get yours, just a heads up they take about a week to 2weeks for the midbass to really break in.

99dango
09-11-2007, 11:48 PM
so if i dont do sound deadener right away(plan to do it though) is it a waste of time??

tcguy85
09-11-2007, 11:54 PM
so if i dont do sound deadener right away(plan to do it though) is it a waste of time??

you should deaden and seal the doors. i am doing it first with the stock speakers in and when i get some money together i am going to get the comps and amp and all. they will obviously work w/o being deadened but they won't sound as good as possible.

Jacobman
09-12-2007, 12:31 AM
Yea next thing i need to do is sound deaden......cant even imagine a proper install with these beasts.

99dango
09-12-2007, 08:54 AM
how would i go about deadening and sealing off the doors?? i have an idea but i want to confirm....dodge durango if that helps

tcguy85
09-12-2007, 07:50 PM
Yea next thing i need to do is sound deaden......cant even imagine a proper install with these beasts.


they are that crazy good huh? **** i can't wait. being almost broke ***** ***!