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alxmlr789
09-09-2007, 04:24 AM
Ive givin a little while searching and playin around with both units, but i decided to put up a poll before i made my final decision.

-famous-
09-09-2007, 12:13 PM
Pio has a little better SQ but I will go for Alpine..time corrections etc.

CrossFired
09-09-2007, 03:23 PM
Pio has a little better SQ but I will go for Alpine..time corrections etc.

Pioneer had time correction long before Alpine. The Pioneer is far ahead of Alpine in SQ.

I few years back I would have said Alpine will out last Pioneer, but apline has become somewhat unreliable. Given this, I'd say the Pioneer has Apline beat in everyway.;)

whitemax
09-09-2007, 09:29 PM
I would give the Alpine a shot.

mlstrass
09-10-2007, 02:42 AM
I'm in the same boat and will be ordering an 880prs tomorrow, so that's my choice.

theothermike
09-11-2007, 12:47 AM
id actually wanna get rid of my 880 prs. to try the 9887, heard good stuff.

but i like my 880 too

alphakenny1
09-11-2007, 03:23 AM
depends on what you want. if you want ipod controls along with good tuning capabilities such as 3 way xover, 5 band peq and t/a then the alpine. if you want more tuning capabilities then the 880prs is much better IMO. L/R 16 band graphic eq is pretty **** hard to beat. Plus phase control, t/a and a built in 3 way xover.

also which one looks better to you as well.

Bass911
09-13-2007, 09:16 PM
I have extensive use with Pioneer and Alpine. I've owned more Pioneer than Alpine, but Alpine is superior when it comes to SQ hands down! Pioneer will have to get some different engineers to compete with Alpine. I don't care if it has a 40 band eq, it still doesn't sound better. The poll speaks for itself. I'm one of the hardest dudes in the world, but I might shed a tear if Alpine goes out of business or sells it to Hifonics. By the way I own a 9887. I had a 7800mp before and the Alpine is way better. Don't get me wrong Pioneer is good stuff. Sony made the first CD player and you say Pioneer had time correction first. Alpine perfected both. I think the time corr. ***** on the Pioneer, but it works perfect on the Alpine. The only thing I hate about the 9887 is the face is not motorized. Eclipse and Clarion might be Alpines only competition.

A few years back a had Pioneer with a 13 band eq and a million backgrounds. I ran into a guy with a bottom of the line 5V Eclipse with just a bass and treble settings. Before he let me hear it, he was running his mouth like his lips had legs. I was running my mouth too. To make a long story short that Eclipse killed my pimped out Pioneer. IMO the 9887 is a must have if you're one of those people that cry about the newer Alpines no features. They basically brought back the Bass Engine Pro. You never know with Alpine. The 9887 might be the last one with some good features.

Towncar
09-14-2007, 03:16 PM
I have extensive use with Pioneer and Alpine. I've owned more Pioneer than Alpine, but Alpine is superior when it comes to SQ hands down! Pioneer will have to get some different engineers to compete with Alpine. I don't care if it has a 40 band eq, it still doesn't sound better. The poll speaks for itself. I'm one of the hardest dudes in the world, but I might shed a tear if Alpine goes out of business or sells it to Hifonics. By the way I own a 9887. I had a 7800mp before and the Alpine is way better. Don't get me wrong Pioneer is good stuff. Sony made the first CD player and you say Pioneer had time correction first. Alpine perfected both. I think the time corr. ***** on the Pioneer, but it works perfect on the Alpine. The only thing I hate about the 9887 is the face is not motorized. Eclipse and Clarion might be Alpines only competition.

A few years back a had Pioneer with a 13 band eq and a million backgrounds. I ran into a guy with a bottom of the line 5V Eclipse with just a bass and treble settings. Before he let me hear it, he was running his mouth like his lips had legs. I was running my mouth too. To make a long story short that Eclipse killed my pimped out Pioneer. IMO the 9887 is a must have if you're one of those people that cry about the newer Alpines no features. They basically brought back the Bass Engine Pro. You never know with Alpine. The 9887 might be the last one with some good features.

Best review ever... Btw the thread was about the 880 vs the 9887, not the 780, which isnt even comparible to either deck mentioned.. No offense, but that review was worthless..

loserpunk
09-16-2007, 04:43 PM
I have extensive use with Pioneer and Alpine. I've owned more Pioneer than Alpine, but Alpine is superior when it comes to SQ hands down! Pioneer will have to get some different engineers to compete with Alpine. I don't care if it has a 40 band eq, it still doesn't sound better. The poll speaks for itself. I'm one of the hardest dudes in the world, but I might shed a tear if Alpine goes out of business or sells it to Hifonics. By the way I own a 9887. I had a 7800mp before and the Alpine is way better. Don't get me wrong Pioneer is good stuff. Sony made the first CD player and you say Pioneer had time correction first. Alpine perfected both. I think the time corr. ***** on the Pioneer, but it works perfect on the Alpine. The only thing I hate about the 9887 is the face is not motorized. Eclipse and Clarion might be Alpines only competition.

A few years back a had Pioneer with a 13 band eq and a million backgrounds. I ran into a guy with a bottom of the line 5V Eclipse with just a bass and treble settings. Before he let me hear it, he was running his mouth like his lips had legs. I was running my mouth too. To make a long story short that Eclipse killed my pimped out Pioneer. IMO the 9887 is a must have if you're one of those people that cry about the newer Alpines no features. They basically brought back the Bass Engine Pro. You never know with Alpine. The 9887 might be the last one with some good features.

if you haven't owned either unit......wtf are you doing recommending one over the other

Trey803
09-16-2007, 04:45 PM
p880

///M5
09-17-2007, 12:45 PM
I have extensive use with Pioneer and Alpine. I've owned more Pioneer than Alpine, but Alpine is superior when it comes to SQ hands down! Pioneer will have to get some different engineers to compete with Alpine. I don't care if it has a 40 band eq, it still doesn't sound better. The poll speaks for itself. I'm one of the hardest dudes in the world, but I might shed a tear if Alpine goes out of business or sells it to Hifonics. By the way I own a 9887. I had a 7800mp before and the Alpine is way better. Don't get me wrong Pioneer is good stuff. Sony made the first CD player and you say Pioneer had time correction first. Alpine perfected both. I think the time corr. ***** on the Pioneer, but it works perfect on the Alpine. The only thing I hate about the 9887 is the face is not motorized. Eclipse and Clarion might be Alpines only competition.

A few years back a had Pioneer with a 13 band eq and a million backgrounds. I ran into a guy with a bottom of the line 5V Eclipse with just a bass and treble settings. Before he let me hear it, he was running his mouth like his lips had legs. I was running my mouth too. To make a long story short that Eclipse killed my pimped out Pioneer. IMO the 9887 is a must have if you're one of those people that cry about the newer Alpines no features. They basically brought back the Bass Engine Pro. You never know with Alpine. The 9887 might be the last one with some good features.

Not only is that the wrong deck, but your blatant subjective statement about SQ is complete bullshit. The 880 is an outstanding deck and is significantly more flexible than the current Alpine offerings allowing you to adjust your install to maximize your stage and response. Your definition and understanding of SQ is as useless as your post.

Bass911
09-17-2007, 03:45 PM
Flame all you want. I have heard the 880 and my post was not meant to be a review or I would've posted it in the review section. I was just giving my opinion. I've had other units that had more features than this Alpine, but it meant nothing. The Alpine still sounded better. Go with the Pioneer he you wish. I didn't mean imply that you'd be going wrong with the Pioneer. Some units insides are just made better to me and don't need as many features as others, and that's fact not opinion.

Bring97
09-17-2007, 04:25 PM
hmmm seems like its mostly what people own is what you should get. i do have to agree with alpha on thi sone. its all about what you need. but i do have to say as far as the tuning goes for the alpine, im pretty sure that the 9887 is a controller for the 701. and it also has the new imprint feature where you place a mic in the car and it reads all the accustics and everything, pretty neat feature. have played to much with the 880prs but i hear it is a great unit. either way you wont be dissapointed. i do own the 9887 and love it compares to the 9861 i had but more features, just no optical out. and close to the 8443 but the sound quality is close but not quite the same (8v vs 4v)

DejaWiz
09-17-2007, 04:26 PM
Yeah. Pioneer 880PRS. Definitely.

adam71
09-18-2007, 09:02 AM
I have extensive use with Pioneer and Alpine. I've owned more Pioneer than Alpine, but Alpine is superior when it comes to SQ hands down! Pioneer will have to get some different engineers to compete with Alpine. I don't care if it has a 40 band eq, it still doesn't sound better. The poll speaks for itself. I'm one of the hardest dudes in the world, but I might shed a tear if Alpine goes out of business or sells it to Hifonics.

OMG. Well folks, there you have it.....the definitive word. Pioneer ***** and can't touch Alpine or Eclipse or Clarion.


Sony made the first CD player and you say Pioneer had time correction first. Alpine perfected both. I think the time corr. ***** on the Pioneer, but it works perfect on the Alpine. The only thing I hate about the 9887 is the face is not motorized. Eclipse and Clarion might be Alpines only competition.

So what does Sony making the first CD player have to do with time alignment?? And what is so different about Pioneer's TA compared to others?? I'm very interested to hear the answer.


A few years back a had Pioneer with a 13 band eq and a million backgrounds. I ran into a guy with a bottom of the line 5V Eclipse with just a bass and treble settings. Before he let me hear it, he was running his mouth like his lips had legs. I was running my mouth too. To make a long story short that Eclipse killed my pimped out Pioneer.


:hilariou::hilariou::hilariou: I love this paragraph. So insightful.

MikeNeufeld
09-18-2007, 11:05 AM
lol..... lets just put it this way.....

it's like canon and nikon d slr camera's, one has a little better iso capabilities and one uses cmos and the other ccd.... nikon has mastered flash systems where canon is still legging a bit... they both run high mpx's, have multi lense acc( ie ext tuning ) and both will produce world class photo's....

it's like alpine and pioneer, both will perform tremedously, and i have owned both and currently run the 9887...

instead of which is better, cause u will never find the answer, look at what you need in terms of functions and capabilities according to budget and see what fits ur role....

99StangGt
09-18-2007, 12:03 PM
What I do is buy one of them from a shop you can take it back to. Try it out then take it back and get the other. Try them both for yourself, thats the only way you will get what you are looking for.

loserpunk
09-18-2007, 12:22 PM
hmmm seems like its mostly what people own is what you should get. i do have to agree with alpha on thi sone. its all about what you need. but i do have to say as far as the tuning goes for the alpine, im pretty sure that the 9887 is a controller for the 701. and it also has the new imprint feature where you place a mic in the car and it reads all the accustics and everything, pretty neat feature. have played to much with the 880prs but i hear it is a great unit. either way you wont be dissapointed. i do own the 9887 and love it compares to the 9861 i had but more features, just no optical out. and close to the 8443 but the sound quality is close but not quite the same (8v vs 4v)

pio has had that feature since the 860, however, on all the units i've used it on, pio/alpine, it never can compare to the job you can do by ear

btnhfan
09-18-2007, 12:51 PM
I have the 880 right now but want to get the 9887 because of bluetooth.

alxmlr789
09-18-2007, 06:56 PM
I have the 880 right now but want to get the 9887 because of bluetooth.

Bluetooth is 150 bucks for the adapter :uhoh:

Bring97
09-18-2007, 07:02 PM
pio has had that feature since the 860, however, on all the units i've used it on, pio/alpine, it never can compare to the job you can do by ear


yeah it does have the built in mic but at the position it is at it cant possibly find all the accustical attributes and everything. while the alpine can be put anywhere in the car. now dont get me wrong pioneer makes great units and im not saying get the alpine over the pioneer. just go out and play with them see what you like better, either way you wont be dissapointed.

mlstrass
09-18-2007, 07:07 PM
I plan on tuning the 880 by ear since that's what I listen with :) Should be arriving tomorrow...

DejaWiz
09-18-2007, 07:15 PM
I plan on tuning the 880 by ear since that's what I listen with :) Should be arriving tomorrow...

Be sure to post us a review (http://www.caraudio.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=124)!

99StangGt
09-18-2007, 10:33 PM
yeah it does have the built in mic but at the position it is at it cant possibly find all the accustical attributes and everything. while the alpine can be put anywhere in the car. now dont get me wrong pioneer makes great units and im not saying get the alpine over the pioneer. just go out and play with them see what you like better, either way you wont be dissapointed.

what do you mean at the position its in? The mic is on a cord and you can position it anywhere. I have had both the 860 and 880 and yet I still keep my 9835. I didnt like the auto eq stuff. I tried it on both decks and wasnt impressed. That said maybe my taste wasnt the same as what pioneer thought it should be. I have found the biggest thing is the install. I only use 2 of the 5 bands of EQ for my system. When looking at these 2 decks the EQ is about the only difference in the processing, without buying more equipment. I am not saying buy one over the other because they are both good decks. And this thing about the pioneers having issues I dont understand. I had 2- 860s and an 880 and never had one problem. I just preferred my 9835 to them.

Bass911
09-19-2007, 11:20 PM
You must be a special ed kid. It was very insightful. Those are facts, not opinion about the time alingment. I stated that Pioneer was good stuff and Alpines are far superior to Sony cd players. Can you prove me wrong? I might have been a little hard on Pioneer about the time corr. , but I've sat in my car adjusting the time corr/alingment for many hours. I gave the guy the best advice by telling him to demo both. There are others in this post saying almost the same thing I am and the poll supports me too. I still use a Pioneer in another car I have and it's not even close to any of the Alpines I've owned. I owned 3 Clarions, 6 Pioneers, 2 Panasonics,1 Jvc, 4 Alpines, 3 Kenwoods, 2 Sonys, Jensen, Valor, and 1 Rockford Head unit to give an idea of my experience. I begging you to prove me wrong adam?

That guy is right about those cameras too. A lot of people will tell you that there isn't much difference between brands if they have the same have the same megapixels, but it's not true. There's a website with pics to prove it.

alxmlr789
09-19-2007, 11:38 PM
I am very glad i picked the 9887. This thing is excellent.

XxSuperAdamxX
09-20-2007, 01:21 AM
Pioneer ftw.

billybrown66
09-20-2007, 01:51 AM
http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17883

///M5
09-27-2007, 02:23 PM
http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17883

I consider that review a joke. The biggest advantage the Pio has is the L/R eq and he isn't using it. :(

Tonyguy
09-27-2007, 02:34 PM
I am very glad i picked the 9887. This thing is excellent.
niiiice


Pioneer ftw.

Apparently not

billybrown66
09-27-2007, 02:41 PM
I consider that review a joke. The biggest advantage the Pio has is the L/R eq and he isn't using it. :(


Let's not be too bitter.

All the review summarized was how good both headunits were. I honestly don't think you could go wrong either way, people are making bold exaggerations why one is so much better than the other... whatever. I've never had a 880prs, but people seem to like it, I know I like my 9887 a lot.

adam71
10-02-2007, 03:26 AM
You must be a special ed kid. It was very insightful. Those are facts, not opinion about the time alingment. I stated that Pioneer was good stuff and Alpines are far superior to Sony cd players. Can you prove me wrong?

First of all this is all opinion and there are NO facts when sharing opinions. You like Alpine, we get it. Again, Sony may have made the first CD player but that has nothing to do with time alignmnent. I'm not really sure why you keep bringing that up. So really there is nothing to prove wrong. It's all opinions.


I might have been a little hard on Pioneer about the time corr. , but I've sat in my car adjusting the time corr/alingment for many hours. I gave the guy the best advice by telling him to demo both.

You NEVER advised anyone to demo both. You only said I've owned more Pioneer than Alpine, but Alpine is superior when it comes to SQ hands down! Pioneer will have to get some different engineers to compete with Alpine. I don't care if it has a 40 band eq, it still doesn't sound better.
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You're advising someone to buy something based on your personal tastes and opinions and trying to sell them as facts. Well, they are NOT facts.



There are others in this post saying almost the same thing I am and the poll supports me too. I still use a Pioneer in another car I have and it's not even close to any of the Alpines I've owned. I owned 3 Clarions, 6 Pioneers, 2 Panasonics,1 Jvc, 4 Alpines, 3 Kenwoods, 2 Sonys, Jensen, Valor, and 1 Rockford Head unit to give an idea of my experience. I begging you to prove me wrong adam?

What does a poll on a public website prove?? It just means that more Alpine fans voted than Pioneer fans did, thats all. It's obvious you've had better luck and prefer the sound of Alpine but that does NOT make it a fact. Try and remember that.;)