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bernardo
09-08-2007, 02:44 AM
Guys, First of all, im new here

My name is Bernardo and i live in Mexico City, and its nice to meet car audio enthusiasts like you..

I have a Honda Accord, (double Din) and I want to change the HU but...

a few weeks ago, I saw the IVA-W205, and i like it, but for some reasons i didnt buy it right away, then i look on the internet, the CDA-9887...

My Questions are..

*Wich one have more Sound Quality?
*If the CDA-9887 have more Sound Quality, is it by far?
*Wich is the best Alpine in terms of SQ, besides the F1


Facts:

I love to hear music, i really want a good SQ HU.
I like movies, but maybe not in my car, so the DVDs are not the big isue here
I have an iPod, but the 70% of the time i prefer the old CDs
i have Polk Audio speakers in the front and in the back
i have an Alpine PDX amplifier
Maybe i buy a Subwoofer enclosure in a few months


PD: those models are not in stores here, so i cant hear them, im basing my decision on the people who have hear them

Worlddre
09-08-2007, 02:51 AM
the only comparison as far as tuning features would be if you added an h701 to the w205 other wise they dont compare at all

alphakenny1
09-08-2007, 03:04 AM
lol sup man. i'm vietmandomy52 over at v6p.net. like i said bro, you won't hear a difference. if you want true sound quality, put more emphasis on the install.

starkfu
09-08-2007, 10:39 AM
the only way the 9887 will sound better is with the imprint piece.

http://www.alpine-usa.com/US-en/products/product_acc.php?model=KTX-100EQ

99StangGt
09-08-2007, 12:52 PM
For me its an easy pick, 9887. Its half the price, has a lot better crossover and an EQ. They both run ipods. Even without the imprint the 9887 can make your system sound better then the W205 because of the processing it has.

bernardo
09-10-2007, 11:12 PM
lol sup man. i'm vietmandomy52 over at v6p.net. like i said bro, you won't hear a difference. if you want true sound quality, put more emphasis on the install.


sup man, nice to see you arround here...

thanks for the coments, but im still the same

some people says its the same SQ, and some others says that the 9887 is better SQ.

but no one had told me, that the IVA-W205 is better, and since the 9887 is a lot cheaper, and i still can buy the imprint module in the future, i think thats a better choice.

Im sorry for those newbie questions, but i cant hear them arround here.

PD: What do you mean with the installation? becouse im going to do the instalation..

hoss
09-10-2007, 11:30 PM
the only comparison as far as tuning features would be if you added an h701 to the w205 other wise they dont compare at all

hey dre, is there any difference between what the h701 does, and what the mra-f350 will do? (desides that the 350 has an amp attached to it...)

im trying to look and see if the h701 has any major advantages over the f350, and i cant really see anything dramatic. but for the price difference i feel like im overlooking something...

starkfu
09-11-2007, 12:53 AM
having the F350 is far more advantageous then having the h701, the h701 will accomplish what the F350 does but allow you to use normal amplifiers.

The F350 has everything built into it, and allows for there to be one less amplifier (center channel).

F350 is the ****!!!! I love it!!!

alphakenny1
09-11-2007, 03:22 AM
the f350 doesn't have bandpassable xovers. if you are going active the h701 is the better choice.


sup man, nice to see you arround here...

thanks for the coments, but im still the same

some people says its the same SQ, and some others says that the 9887 is better SQ.

but no one had told me, that the IVA-W205 is better, and since the 9887 is a lot cheaper, and i still can buy the imprint module in the future, i think thats a better choice.

Im sorry for those newbie questions, but i cant hear them around here.

PD: What do you mean with the installation? because im going to do the installation..

I don't know what basis these people are speaking of. I think it's more of pyschoacoustics more than anything.

also when i say installation i mean know where your speakers are being placed at. things like imaging and staging are very important to some people and the placement of speakers will have a huge impact on imaging and staging. also deaden your doors well to get the most midbass possible. also tuning important.

the 9887 has more tuning options itself than the w205. it has a 3 way xover and a 5 band PEQ and time correction.

99StangGt
09-11-2007, 05:08 AM
I agree with alphakenny1. The install is the most important part. I was talking about the 9887 having better eq, 3-way crossover and time alignment to help with the install where the W205 doesn't have those things. If you run them both flat not using crossovers and time alignment then it would be hard to tell the difference. Thats why I say the 9887 should sound better for half the price of the w205 and a lot cheaper then the w205 with a h701, but that combo would be a lot better. I still use a 9835 and love it. I will be going to the 9887 when the 9835 dies, unless something better comes around.

hoss
09-11-2007, 07:30 AM
the f350 doesn't have bandpassable xovers. if you are going active the h701 is the better choice.

does the alpine website confirm this anywhere? i dont see where it says whether or not either one is bandpassable.

also, the f350 has more bands of parametric eq. and im guessing on the h701 you can use either the parametric or the graphic eq, not both? their specs are pretty vague on both these units...

alphakenny1
09-11-2007, 12:13 PM
i was just looking at this, http://www.crutchfield.com/S-1svWEPmezNA/cgi-bin/prodview.asp?i=500MRAF350. there is no mention of lowpass filter for the front/rear/center. on the h701 each preout has a lowpass and a highpass option. trust me, i'm using the h701.

hoss
09-11-2007, 03:21 PM
i was just looking at this, http://www.crutchfield.com/S-1svWEPmezNA/cgi-bin/prodview.asp?i=500MRAF350. there is no mention of lowpass filter for the front/rear/center. on the h701 each preout has a lowpass and a highpass option. trust me, i'm using the h701.

yeah but...

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-3BcyYEujDeo/cgi-bin/Prodview.asp?readmore=true&g=168450&I=500PXAH701&search=h701#Tab

all that says is it has active xo's ;)

so there still is no confirmation that the f350 doesnt have bandpassable xo's. like i said, the information available is pretty slim for these units...

im starting to think that the f350 does everything the h701 does, plus amplification. unless someone can confirm otherwise for me. ill make a call and see if i can find anything else out.

alphakenny1
09-11-2007, 03:39 PM
read the manual here, http://vault.alpine-usa.com/products/documents/MRA-F350%20OM.PDF. nowhere does it state that it has bandpassable xovers. pg 12 on the pdf. only states High pass.

bikinpunk
09-13-2007, 10:02 PM
I think I've seen about 2 amps that are BP capable. Neither were Alpine. Think one was Alumapro and the other was Zed (IIRC).

hoss
09-13-2007, 10:06 PM
wonder if i could use the HU to HP and the amp to LP...

alphakenny1
09-13-2007, 11:27 PM
you can but unfortunately if you are running a two way setup, the highest crossover setting it'll go is 200hz i think one one of the outputs and 400hz on another or something. that is definitely not good for 2 way front stage.

jluv
09-14-2007, 03:04 PM
does the alpine website confirm this anywhere? i dont see where it says whether or not either one is bandpassable.

also, the f350 has more bands of parametric eq. and im guessing on the h701 you can use either the parametric or the graphic eq, not both? their specs are pretty vague on both these units...


The F350 and the H701 both have 17 bands of parametric eq. The H701 also has a 31 band graphic eq.

The H701 allows up to a 30db crossover slope vs 24db on the F350.

The F350 does NOT have bandpass crossovers. The H701 does.

The H701 allows for an active front stage with 4 front channels instead of 2.

The F350 has only 5 very weak channels. This completely negates the "advantage" of having built-in amplification. In fact, I would consider it a hindrance. I'd rather be able to use my own amps downstream from the processor (which has 8 channels). Much more control and flexibility.

How many optical inputs does the F350 have? The H701 has three.

In my opinion, the H701 is far superior for the serious enthusiast.

60_cent
09-23-2007, 01:37 PM
it's kind of hard to compare the two, they are both two different kinds of hu's