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fearthepand
07-26-2007, 10:00 AM
Are coaxial speakers with built in crossover networks any good? Components are out of the question here. Just looking for for better sound than what the stock system does. Also would it be worth it to amp some coaxials?? O and this isn't going to be in my car i'm doing this for a friend.

Prowler573
07-26-2007, 10:04 AM
Are coaxial speakers with built in crossover networks any good?
Just like in all other aspects of car audio it depends on the speakers in question. Some are decent, some are great, and some are absolute crap.

Components are out of the question here. Just looking for for better sound than what the stock system does.
In most cases better than stock isn't terribly hard to achieve.

Also would it be worth it to amp some coaxials??
In most cases, yes. Powering a decent set of aftermarket speakers from the headunit will almost never allow you to realize the full potential of the speakers.

phyphoestilic
07-26-2007, 10:05 AM
Just remember u'll never need more than a 2-way coaxial speaker. Don't get fooled by all those ones that come with like 5 different types of speakers or what not.

Flipx99
07-26-2007, 10:09 AM
I second the above posts...

I would amp them no matter what, it will be worth in both clarity and volume.

Coaxials range from durabrand at walmart to $$$ Morel Hybrid Ovation XO.

What is your budget?

genxx
07-26-2007, 10:09 AM
Just like in all other aspects of car audio it depends on the speakers in question. Some are decent, some are great, and some are absolute crap.

In most cases better than stock isn't terribly hard to achieve.

In most cases, yes. Powering a decent set of aftermarket speakers from the headunit will almost never allow you to realize the full potential of the speakers.

X2-Do you have some particular stuff you have been looking at. Brands, Price range ect.

fearthepand
07-26-2007, 10:38 AM
Well i saw these polk audio db's
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-9DUUCbOzy6a/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=400&I=107DB525

fearthepand
07-26-2007, 10:44 AM
Prolly gonna get a 4 channel amp to power some speakers in the rear. Subs are most more than likely out of the question 2 i know it *****

Flipx99
07-26-2007, 10:46 AM
5 channel amp.

The Baby Belle would be an excellent choice for that application.

Flipx99
07-26-2007, 10:48 AM
I personally like these better

http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=17547

fearthepand
07-26-2007, 10:54 AM
Do those pg's have the crossovers? So are you suggesting a 5ch. amp just incase my friend would want to add a sub later? The car we are talking about is a 94Mazada Protogue.

Flipx99
07-26-2007, 11:02 AM
Yes.

Having external crossovers does not make the coaxial inherently better.

fearthepand
07-26-2007, 11:09 AM
ok anybody else got some suggestions???????

Louisiana_CRX
07-26-2007, 11:17 AM
Pioneer Rev series are some really nice coax's

fearthepand
07-26-2007, 11:18 AM
how much could those be bought for?

Flipx99
07-26-2007, 11:26 AM
I think they are closer to $100.

I went with the $69 you had originally

Flipx99
07-26-2007, 11:27 AM
I would do the Revs if your budget is that good.

However I would amp durabrand before I would run the revs off the head unit

fearthepand
07-26-2007, 11:30 AM
well....... $200-$300 for speakers and amp. The 5 channel amp idea sounds good to me. so lets go with that for right now. Comps are still very much out of this too.

fearthepand
07-26-2007, 11:32 AM
Still would like to have front and rear speakers so 4 speakers and a 5 channnel amp with the stated budget.

fearthepand
07-26-2007, 11:49 AM
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_2777_MA+Audio+Y3065K.html

Are these MA Audios a good choice?

Flipx99
07-26-2007, 11:50 AM
That would be hard. I cannot think of a 5 channel amp within that budget.

I think directed has one, but that would be the whole amount.

I would get a 4 channel and 4 speakers right now...

Flipx99
07-26-2007, 11:53 AM
What size speakers are you looking for.

I can get something in that budget

fearthepand
07-26-2007, 11:56 AM
im not sure what fits that car. I dont know much about the car cause its not mine but i look on crutchfield and it said that 6 1/2'' would fit but it also said 5 1/4'' would fit too so im confused.

fearthepand
07-26-2007, 11:57 AM
If they would fit 6 1/2'' would be what i would get

Flipx99
07-26-2007, 12:01 PM
So four 6.5s?

fearthepand
07-26-2007, 12:09 PM
yeah

Flipx99
07-26-2007, 12:19 PM
You should be able to find a diamond audio D3 400.4 on ebay for around $125 or so (I don't have access to ebay at work)

You can talk to Don (6speedcoupe) and get some ArcAudio coaxials for around $75 each or so (Don't quote me, I bought some 5.25s for my GF and I think they were around there, but I don't remember)

Brings you to $325 or so.

A little over budget....

fearthepand
07-26-2007, 12:24 PM
Thanks for the info. you were a real help. anybody else have a suggestion

fearthepand
07-26-2007, 12:26 PM
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_1613_Phoenix+Gold+R9.0-5.html

Is that a good 5 channel amp?

fearthepand
07-26-2007, 12:28 PM
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_9545_Crunch+PZi+550.5.html

Here is another dont know much about the company though has anybody ever had a amp from them?

Flipx99
07-26-2007, 12:31 PM
I would chose the PG.

Hard to find good coaxials and stay under budget.

fearthepand
07-26-2007, 12:48 PM
yeah may have to have my g/f buy speakers herself. She just got her licence and a car. The sound in it is terrible! But that is compared to a 02 impala stock system (my car) that sounds better than most stock systems . She told me that she was wanting to buy a cd player for her car and asked which would be a good one so i came with a pioneer. so while im at it i told her i would upgrade her sound too. Another question if i dont use any dampener or deadener will her car still have pretty good sound?

fearthepand
07-26-2007, 02:09 PM
ttt

kross
07-26-2007, 03:27 PM
The Pioneer REV series is supposed to be a really good set of coaxials. $76 a pair:

http://www.millionbuy.com/piotsd161r.html

Profile AP1040 75w x 4 amp for $90:

http://www.millionbuy.com/prfap1040.html

Don't forget, you'll need a wiring kit as well. Here a 4-channel kit that includes power wire, speaker wire, RCA interconnect wire, fuse block, various connectors, for $50:

http://www.knukonceptz.com/productDetail.cfm?prodID=KOL-AK44

Total: $292 plus shipping.

fearthepand
07-26-2007, 03:40 PM
nice find all i was finding those pioneer REV speakers for was $89 and up.