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tooshort_128
07-25-2007, 10:38 AM
Do you guys think a Planet Audio VX-2002 that's rated at 100x2 @ 4 would be good for these comps or should I use a little more power?

MSW Danny
07-25-2007, 11:21 AM
I think it sounds like a good amp. go for it unless you want to purchase something else

DejaWiz
07-25-2007, 11:26 AM
Got a budget in mind?

tbasile1
07-25-2007, 11:43 AM
If you already have it, hell use that, that amp will do a nice job, but if u dont already have it, whats your budget for an amp?

tooshort_128
07-25-2007, 11:48 AM
Not trying to get anything too expensive. I'd like to stay around $100-$120 since I'm trying to find an Eclipse double din nav. unit too.

tbasile1
07-25-2007, 11:49 AM
http://www.millionbuy.com/prfap1000.html

Just set the gains right and you'll be fine!!

Profile amps are good budget amps, and thats a lil below yours, saves you a few more bucks for the Eclipse ;)

tooshort_128
07-25-2007, 12:03 PM
****, that looks like a winner and well within my budget. Anything else out there with a little better SQ in my price range? If not, Profile it is!

DejaWiz
07-25-2007, 12:29 PM
I was going to recommend the same, actually.

Check out the TMA 2 channel amp, as well. Sonicelectronix has them.

And this (http://www.hifisoundconnection.com/Shop/Control/Product/fp/vpid/2599048/vpcsid/0/SFV/30046/order/asc/order_by/title).

tooshort_128
07-26-2007, 03:52 PM
Which comps are better the RSD's or the new Octane R's?? Just curious..........

ThatChevyGuy
07-26-2007, 03:55 PM
i think rsd's are above octane r's.

MSW Danny
07-26-2007, 03:55 PM
I prefer the rsd

tooshort_128
07-26-2007, 04:08 PM
Just makin sure.............thanks

DejaWiz
07-26-2007, 04:41 PM
RSd is second best in PG's speaker lineup. Their top of the line is the Titanium Elite, which is no longer made iirc, but can still be found a few places.

giventofly
07-26-2007, 04:49 PM
Don't mean to thread jack, but there are a billion RSD threads, so I figure i'll just ask a question here.

here are my options:

55W x 4 to two pairs of RSDs
or
150W x 2 to one pair of RSDs and rear fill run off HU

DejaWiz
07-26-2007, 04:56 PM
150w to one pair. Will give you the most midbass performance and front stage presence.

CaliforniabOY5
07-26-2007, 04:57 PM
150w to one pair. Will give you the most midbass performance and front stage presence.

this is true

giventofly
07-26-2007, 05:05 PM
150w to one pair. Will give you the most midbass performance and front stage presence.

then is it worth buying another set for the back? I already have spots for the tweets.

DejaWiz
07-26-2007, 05:21 PM
If you are running or plan to run a substage, no, I'd skip the rears altogether. In fact I'd rip them out, depending on the vehicle.

giventofly
07-26-2007, 05:27 PM
adding a single 12" sub, prolly a DVC MSeries Memphis or a DVC MB Quart in a pretty small sealed box (got an '01 Mustang convertible). Don't want the huuuge thump, just some "emphasis". Listen to alot of hard rock.

tbasile1
07-26-2007, 06:06 PM
eh forget rears :fro:

with a good comp set getting some nice power and a single sub, it'll sound real nice!!!!

tooshort_128
07-27-2007, 01:59 PM
I just wanted to say thanks to DejaWiz and Tbayz for your advice. I'm taking you guys up on it and have decided to run the Rsd's up front with a new Memphis MCA 2004 that I just bought. The memphis will do 150rms x 2 and I hope the PG's will take it. I'm running my rear Infinity comps off the HU only because I have a big SUV and my substage is 2 type-x's in a snailshell.

DejaWiz
07-27-2007, 02:05 PM
Should sound nice! Let us know what you think when it's all up and running.

tooshort_128
07-27-2007, 02:47 PM
Yeah, I'm hoping it will sound as good as I think it will. I did the pure spl thing for a while and it got old.........or is it just me getting old? Anyway, I'll let you guys know how it sounds when I get this SQL monster goin.

tbasile1
07-27-2007, 05:08 PM
Should sound nice! Let us know what you think when it's all up and running.

x2 :yumyum:

giventofly
07-28-2007, 02:49 AM
I just wanted to say thanks to DejaWiz and Tbayz for your advice. I'm taking you guys up on it and have decided to run the Rsd's up front with a new Memphis MCA 2004 that I just bought. The memphis will do 150rms x 2 and I hope the PG's will take it. I'm running my rear Infinity comps off the HU only because I have a big SUV and my substage is 2 type-x's in a snailshell.

good luck man! I'm gonna prolly follow your lead in terms of running a pair at 150W from a memphis. Let us know how it sounds!

mapolley07
07-28-2007, 10:38 PM
you will be happy with the RSD's. i wish i had 100-120 watts to them, that would be a great range of power. I have a profile amp giving them 80 watts per side, and they sound really good.

Everybody raves about the midbass on the RSD comps, and at first after I had them installed, I was disappointed in the midbass and some of the midrange, but the more they break in, the stronger the midbass gets. The highs are very crisp and sharp, but not very harsh. Some people may find them a touch harsh, but they will probably get a little smoother.

PORTERHOUSE
07-28-2007, 10:52 PM
phoenix golds are super power hungry... decent sound though

quest51210
07-30-2007, 02:36 AM
Yeah, I'm hoping it will sound as good as I think it will. I did the pure spl thing for a while and it got old.........or is it just me getting old? Anyway, I'll let you guys know how it sounds when I get this SQL monster goin.

u can buy my Kenwood Double Din with nav and 2 year warranty

tooshort_128
07-30-2007, 04:32 PM
I'm hoping the tweets are kinda bright as I will probaby have to install them in the dash of my 06 Durango. It seems like the only option since, the a-pillars and sail panels are partially blocked by an hvac vent, and there are no q-forms out there. I know it's not the best for SQ but hopefully it'll get me by. I just don't wanna cut my truck up.

mapolley07
07-30-2007, 04:35 PM
you can surface mount the tweets on the a-pillars. I used some velcro extreme to surface mount mine on the a pillars, and they swivel for aiming.

DejaWiz
07-30-2007, 04:51 PM
Another option for a-pillar mounting is to buy a couple pairs of a-pillar covers from a junk-yard, some cloth from wal-mart (or your old clothes), and give a try custom glassing/bondo bombing the tweets in.

You really don't need much in terms of tools for a-pillars since they can be fabricated, hand sanded, and whatnot fairly quickly and easily.

tooshort_128
07-30-2007, 05:02 PM
Well I guess there are some other options out there that would suit me. I really don't want to put the tweets in the dash. Imaging would be way off and I want to keep the mids and tweets close together. Should the tweets aim toward the driver's seat or toward the middle like the dome light?

bigharv
07-30-2007, 05:03 PM
im gonna be getting the RSD components in my tahoe, just put them in factory locations for my front stage. powering them with a kicker kx150.2

tooshort_128
07-30-2007, 08:04 PM
Alright fellas, I need your input badly. I don't want to put the tweets in the dash so I have included some pictures of ideas of where to mount them. I have the places numbered 1, 2, 3, and 4. Let me know what you think.....

DejaWiz
07-30-2007, 08:31 PM
2 if you can, otherwise 1 would be my preference. 4 might not be a bad choice if you can angle them for proper imaging.

viperrgh2
07-31-2007, 01:40 AM
Just got a pair of these in the mail can't wait to install, do you guys run your tweets at 0 or +2?

cougarsd
07-31-2007, 02:31 AM
Instead of asking people what would be our best guess I suggest you to use double side tape and put the tweeter in all different locations that you think they will sound ok and properly (for you).
Put it in loc. 1 and play some music and lesson for all difernet seating locations at your car (specially front, both seats), then do the same with location 2, etc, etc.
Once you have a choice then make the final installation.
One quick advice is that most of users found speakers "harsh" which most of the time I have found that most likely it's a poor installation. You have no idea of how important installation is over a system, a regular component can put a high end component to shame if is under good installation. I have seen people complain about their $$$ expensive components not perform well but all comes out to installation (keep this in mind).
One trick is that midbass woofer has to be as close as possible to the tweeter, we often make some mistake and put the woofer in stock location and tweeters up in the dash, or side mirrors, etc. and this make your ears caught high frequencies closer than the low freqs. and that's when we think a comp. is harsh and anoying but in my experience I can tell you most of the time is about installation (of course metal tweeter are brighter than silk, don't want to go deep on that), and also the tweeter attenuation plays a big role since sometimes we put speakers at 0 since they came shipped like that (but is important to play with this also).
Remember, whenever a manufacturing is designing a component, they are only guessing where the tweeter will be mounted in relation with the woofer and the drivers (lessoners) position.
Sorry for going long and write you a book, but I hope this info can help you.

tooshort_128
07-31-2007, 11:03 AM
Thanks.........that was very informative. I guess it would be a good idea to play around with them in different positions. Should they angle toward the driver's seat or more toward the dome light for example??

DejaWiz
07-31-2007, 11:06 AM
Whatever suits your ears would be best. ;)

tooshort_128
07-31-2007, 11:09 AM
Yeah, I'm thinking either location 1 or 2. When I get rid of the truck, I might want to keep my comps so I don't want to cut any holes in my door panels. The a-pillar covers and sail panel can be replaced. Thanks!

tooshort_128
08-09-2007, 07:59 PM
After receving my Rsd's and some careful consideration, I'm looking at installing the tweets in either location 2 or 4. My question is, wouldn't 4 be optimum since they are closer to the mid woofer?? The tweets angle so I can point them up toward me.

tbasile1
08-09-2007, 09:11 PM
Hey RSD owners, how are the mounting depths on those RSds??

I cant seem to find info on that online

MTXman
08-09-2007, 09:16 PM
Good question Tbayz, even though the websites say like 5.5-6.0, it's more like 6.5 inches for the 12's for the full mounting depth. Like an inch more than they say online, almost screwed me over.

tbasile1
08-09-2007, 11:02 PM
MTXMAN,

I was talking about the RSd components LOL

But I heard those RSd subs really slam!!

tbasile1
08-09-2007, 11:02 PM
Double Post FTL!

tooshort_128
08-10-2007, 10:28 AM
TBayz, I'll find out the mounting depth a little later when I get home. UPS just dropped mine off on Wednesday. I'm starting my complete system install tomorrow morning since I just picked up a Pioneer deh-p5900ib for real cheap. I'll make sure to install them right with the whole modeling clay and sound deadening stuff and let you know how they sound.

tbasile1
08-10-2007, 11:44 AM
Okay sweet, just a quick measure would be awesome!!

Reviews are always cool too!!

Sunfire01
08-10-2007, 01:43 PM
- Mounting depth w/o grills, I'd say right at 2.75".

- Overall height of the speaker with grill attached is about 3.5"

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tbasile1
08-10-2007, 02:49 PM
Thanks guys!!

tooshort_128
08-13-2007, 01:10 PM
Just installed my Rsd's and all I have to say is WOW. They scream and sound good doing it. I deadened the inner and outer skin of the door panel and did the whole modeling clay thing and they sound great. Midbass is out of this world and you would swear I had some tang bands in my doors. They compliment the rest of my system very well and I'd like to thank those who convinced me to buy them.

tooshort_128
08-13-2007, 01:22 PM
As far as the mounting depth, the documentation that came with them say it is 2 5/8''................just to let you know TBayz1.........