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edison_GTI
07-20-2007, 12:25 AM
Last week I installed an Alpine CDA-9885, which replaced a Pioneer AVIC-D2 (now in my daily driver). The car is '06 GTI. It didn't come with the factory amp and I replaced the front speakers already with set of Rainbow IQ series (a 3-way system).

Before installing the Alpine, I was enjoying the Rainbows with the Pioneer head unit, very nice sounding set (all my previous components were a/d/s/). Now the same speakers sound dull with the Alpine. The best way to describe the sound system right now is "lacking on warmth", if that makes any sense. The 9885 doesn't have that much tuning capability. The best result I found was by turning off the loudness. With loudness on, the mids are out of control. The question is, should I go ahead and replace he HU before installing amps (Alpine PDX 4.150), or keep it and try with the amps? Seems to me that I will need an EQ for sure to tone down the mids, I was very pleased with the Pioneer sound.

Suggestions for a new HU with iPod controls (or at least aux input)? I think I'm done with Alpine HU. I'm also done with Eclipse.

Kevlar
07-20-2007, 01:42 AM
Maybe try the 9887 when it comes out (August 8th). I was thinking about the 9885, but the 9887 will supposedly feature far better EQ controls and tuning capability. Its $100 more, but I'm sure it'll be worth it.

exige
07-20-2007, 02:19 AM
i too would go with the 9887....then i would add on the amps. regardless...i have a 9857...aka 9885....and i love it. to each his own.

genxx
07-20-2007, 02:29 AM
Seems like maybe you need to stick with Pioneer if that the only thing you like. The 9885 is pretty much a basic deck with a remote so I hope you did not expect much. Not 24bit, no decent GEQ, PEQ or x-over.

I have been happy with the Alpine 9860, Pioneer 880PRS and all the Eclipse's my fav unit. So I would go back to Pioneer since you seem not to like the other's at all. Just remeber it depends on how high up the food chain of each brand you go and what you are whiling to spend.

Taking Alpine and Eclipse out of the equation. Only leaves, Clarion, JVC, Pioneer, Kenwood and Ural if you can find one. That I would run.IMO

Might look at Clarion. I have owned the DRZ9255 and still have a new DXZ775USB and old 855MC. Probably my fav deck never had any issues and always liked the sound.

I had the Rainbow Profi Van 3-way and they where sweet. Good choice on the Rainbows.

vvblazers777
07-20-2007, 04:04 AM
9887 Ftw... Sorry your disappointed bro.

edison_GTI
07-20-2007, 08:17 AM
Thanks guys, I guess I should wait for the 9887. I was thinking on trying the P880PRS.

The reason I ruled out Eclipse is that I had a CD8443 and I loved it, the best HU (except of a Nak 45z I previously had) with tons of tuning capabilities. I was missing mp3 so I decided to try the CD8455. Well, the CD8455 didn't sound natural at all, and that was with the same setup as the CD8443 (a/d/s/ comps and Crossfire amps). I was disappointed with the CD8455.

My ideal HU would be a Nak CD500 with iPod controls.

genxx
07-20-2007, 08:36 AM
You might want to check out what I just posted under the general thread about the 9887. Does not look to be what maybe some thought it was going to be or maybe it was. For Alpine I still prefer the 9835 or 9855.

I like my 8455 so I am biased on it sorry you did not. But thats what makes the car audio world go around.LOL

desertheat
07-21-2007, 08:47 PM
or go old school with the 9835 :) You bought a basic deck with no processing power. Obviously your old system was tuned the way you like with your old deck and the alpine just does not have the capability...

adam71
07-21-2007, 10:00 PM
Alpine head units have ALWAYS lacked in the midrange. No warmth. Atleast not without any good external processing.

desertheat
07-21-2007, 11:16 PM
*LOL* that is funny :) If a deck sounds warm without any internal processing turned on, then it is a pile of crap. You should not use things such as "warmth" to describe a digital output with flat frequency responce :-P

phantom240
07-21-2007, 11:17 PM
Last week I installed an Alpine CDA-9885, which replaced a Pioneer AVIC-D2 (now in my daily driver). The car is '06 GTI. It didn't come with the factory amp and I replaced the front speakers already with set of Rainbow IQ series (a 3-way system).

Before installing the Alpine, I was enjoying the Rainbows with the Pioneer head unit, very nice sounding set (all my previous components were a/d/s/). Now the same speakers sound dull with the Alpine. The best way to describe the sound system right now is "lacking on warmth", if that makes any sense. The 9885 doesn't have that much tuning capability. The best result I found was by turning off the loudness. With loudness on, the mids are out of control. The question is, should I go ahead and replace he HU before installing amps (Alpine PDX 4.150), or keep it and try with the amps? Seems to me that I will need an EQ for sure to tone down the mids, I was very pleased with the Pioneer sound.

Suggestions for a new HU with iPod controls (or at least aux input)? I think I'm done with Alpine HU. I'm also done with Eclipse.
I could sell you a nifty 11 band EQ to let you tune everything just the way you want it :D Cheap!

Eugenics
07-22-2007, 12:01 AM
*LOL* that is funny :) If a deck sounds warm without any internal processing turned on, then it is a pile of crap. You should not use things such as "warmth" to describe a digital output with flat frequency responce :-P

he's a moron.

and i can't believe 9835's are now old school. i remember when they had just came out and we were talking about the 7998s as the old school deck.

desertheat
07-22-2007, 12:32 AM
haha 7998 is still a sweet peice of gear, and yeah man... it seems like yesterday I was getting in my 9835. Heck seems like yesterday I was getting in my 7949!

I can say though getting back my 9835 has been bliss. Just a stellar deck, if only she had fiber optic outputs on her. May contact and engineer buddy and see what he can do about that.

Towncar
07-22-2007, 01:12 AM
just pick up a pioneer deck. No need to stray away from what you like..

adam71
07-22-2007, 09:27 AM
*LOL* that is funny :) If a deck sounds warm without any internal processing turned on, then it is a pile of crap. You should not use things such as "warmth" to describe a digital output with flat frequency responce :-P

Ok. I'll revoke the word warmth from my description. Alpine decks still lack in the mid range out of the box. And what does a digital output have to do with the way this guy is running his deck.??

adam71
07-22-2007, 09:30 AM
he's a moron.




Atleast I have a life outside of these forums. I'm not the one with almost 16,000 posts in 2 years.:rolleyes: Unless you call knocking up your woman a life. :rolleyes:

AcidicDreams
07-22-2007, 09:32 AM
he's a moron.

That's kinda what I was thinking....

and yes it's odd, I still have a 9855 and I feel like it's still "new".... I'll prob have it for another 3-4 years....

AcidicDreams
07-22-2007, 09:33 AM
Atleast I have a life outside of these forums. I'm not the one with almost 16,000 posts in 2 years.:rolleyes: Unless you call knocking up your woman a life. :rolleyes:

At least he doesn't just make **** up to sound smart.....

But anyways this isn't a ***** fight thread... the guy needs answers....

adam71
07-22-2007, 09:36 AM
Seems to me that I will need an EQ for sure to tone down the mids, I was very pleased with the Pioneer sound.

Suggestions for a new HU with iPod controls (or at least aux input)? I think I'm done with Alpine HU. I'm also done with Eclipse.

Sounds like Pioneer is the way to go for you then. That is the same reason after trying Alpine, Clarion and Eclipse that I have gone back to Pioneer for good.

adam71
07-22-2007, 09:39 AM
At least he doesn't just make **** up to sound smart.....

I wasn't talking to you suckass. I think he can take care of himself.

Secondly, I wasn't making ANYTHING up. The word WARMTH is used to describe the sound of audio equipment. But I guess you wouldn't know anything about that.:rolleyes:

adam71
07-22-2007, 09:39 AM
But anyways this isn't a ***** fight thread... the guy needs answers....

Then get the **** out of here. Because that is clearly all you came in here for.

THUMPPER
07-22-2007, 09:40 AM
I was not impressed with any of the new Alpine
the old Alpine F1 was SWEET but the newer stuff...naa

I ended up with the new Premier 980 ....it was a pain
in the *** to operate for the first few days but I love
the sound of it

azbass
07-22-2007, 10:04 AM
Then get the **** out of here. Because that is clearly all you came in here for.

just stop and leave . you did not supply any real helpful info anyway.


thanks.

adam71
07-22-2007, 10:06 AM
just stop and leave . you did not supply any real helpful info anyway.


thanks.

I gave my opinion which is all anyone else did. Acid came in here to start **** and thats all. So tell him that or don't post at all.

whitemax
07-22-2007, 10:15 AM
haha 7998 is still a sweet peice of gear, and yeah man... it seems like yesterday I was getting in my 9835. Heck seems like yesterday I was getting in my 7949!

I can say though getting back my 9835 has been bliss. Just a stellar deck, if only she had fiber optic outputs on her. May contact and engineer buddy and see what he can do about that.


I really liked my 7949, if it did not have issues playing cd-r's I would probably still be running it to this day (had it paired up with a PXA-H600). I've had two 7998's...very nice unit :cool: ...I am borrowing my sister's right now till my CD7000 gets back from service.

whitemax
07-22-2007, 10:20 AM
Sounds like Pioneer is the way to go for you then. That is the same reason after trying Alpine, Clarion and Eclipse that I have gone back to Pioneer for good.

Guess it comes down to personal preference, I feel the same way about Eclipse after trying out Alpine, and Pioneer. I do have to say though, overall the easiest hu's to use for me were the Alpine ones.

adam71
07-22-2007, 10:50 AM
Guess it comes down to personal preference, I feel the same way about Eclipse after trying out Alpine, and Pioneer. I do have to say though, overall the easiest hu's to use for me were the Alpine ones.

I agree. All audio equipment comes down to personal preference. The OP of this thread doesn't like the lack of warmth in his Alpine. He also doesn't like Eclipse either for whatever reason. Pioneer is probably his "taste".

phantom240
07-22-2007, 10:53 AM
Same here. I used to be hardcore Alpine. Owned a Pioneer deck (390mp) and OMG what a difference. So much cheaper too.

edison_GTI
07-22-2007, 12:47 PM
Thanks guys for the suggestions. Seems like I should try the 880, where is the best place to order from?

desertheat
07-22-2007, 12:51 PM
I agree. All audio equipment comes down to personal preference. The OP of this thread doesn't like the lack of warmth in his Alpine. He also doesn't like Eclipse either for whatever reason. Pioneer is probably his "taste".


He is complaining about the lack of warmth from the onboard processing, the deck itself should have NO warmth to it *LOL* This is solid state guy, not a mc275 or st70 tube amp. He mentioned useing the loudness, well he is lacking in certain areas frequency wise that suits his needs. He would be better off with a deck that has a decent amount of adjustability not just a brand name. Cd7000 or cd7001 would be a good choice, the 9835 would be great as well... or wait for the 9887.

edison_GTI
07-22-2007, 01:39 PM
What's the difference between the CD7000 and CD7100? I might give Eclipse another chance; I remember reading about grounding noises from the Pioneer.

desertheat
07-22-2007, 01:41 PM
06 & 07 models. Very nice decks with a goofy large knob. Sounded stellar to me. Lots of adjustability.

azbass
07-22-2007, 02:04 PM
the cd7000 treated me very well. in shines in 3 way active.

whitemax
07-22-2007, 04:36 PM
I am very happy with my CD7000.

genxx
07-23-2007, 04:57 AM
There have been issues with 880 noise. There is a thread on how to avoid it. Most now has been chaulked up to user error and the way Pioneer manufactured the unit. I will find the thread I saw and post a link on the discussion. The noise is avoidable so I wouldn't count the 880 out.

Here is a link about the 880 noise issue.

http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13889&highlight=Pioneer+880

Eugenics
07-23-2007, 05:47 AM
Actually I had typed something else but thought it to be better not to respond at all.

FYI. I have no problem with you. Not really sure why you have one with me.

In any event. Unsubscribed. I'm not into flaming wars.


knew this would come in handy.

edison_GTI
07-23-2007, 08:41 AM
There have been issues with 880 noise. There is a thread on how to avoid it. Most now has been chaulked up to user error and the way Pioneer manufactured the unit. I will find the thread I saw and post a link on the discussion. The noise is avoidable so I wouldn't count the 880 out.

Here is a link about the 880 noise issue.

http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13889&highlight=Pioneer+880

Many thanks genxx, that's very good info right there !!!!!!!!!!!!!

genxx
07-23-2007, 08:48 AM
Your welcome just helping out. You asked also what is the difference between the CD7000 and 7100.

The 7100 adds 8volt pre-outs, Bluetooth and usb IIRC.

edison_GTI
07-23-2007, 06:59 PM
I'm picking up a Pioneer DEH-P880PRS tomorrow :yumyum:

ThatChevyGuy
07-23-2007, 07:00 PM
880s have internal fuses that can pop and have to be sent off= not good.

edison_GTI
07-23-2007, 07:08 PM
880s have internal fuses that can pop and have to be sent off= not good.

Did you check post #35?

sdmtnbiker420
07-24-2007, 02:47 PM
Alpines lack a good equalizer, while even the lowest model Pioneer have at least 5 way EQ, LPF, HPF, LOUD setting, etc

AK SloPok
07-24-2007, 08:03 PM
Did I miss something, are you using an amp?

Pardon my ignorance but I would never power a 3way setup with deck power and blame the sound on the deck. Give those speakers some juice and see if the "punch", "warmth" or "dynamics" come back. The Pioneer and Alpine have different capacities in the amp area of the HU.

vibebreaker
07-27-2007, 04:44 PM
anyone know if the alpine 9807 is any good?

adam71
07-27-2007, 10:22 PM
knew this would come in handy.


And that pertains to this thread in what way pole smoker.?? My god you're a ******* idiot.

edison_GTI
07-28-2007, 12:16 AM
I just finished installing the 880PRS ....... all I will say is that I'm a happy camper !!!!!!!

Very nice HU, pretty much to same level as the Eclipse CD8455 that I used to have. I'm very glad I went that route, now I have a couple of weeks old Alpine CDA-9885 for sale.

adam71
07-28-2007, 09:27 AM
I just finished installing the 880PRS ....... all I will say is that I'm a happy camper !!!!!!!

Very nice HU, pretty much to same level as the Eclipse CD8455 that I used to have. I'm very glad I went that route, now I have a couple of weeks old Alpine CDA-9885 for sale.

How do you like the plain black and white display??

Rawr-DQ
07-28-2007, 09:45 AM
anyone know if the alpine 9807 is any good?

I have a 9807 in my work truck, good amount of features, my only beef is the slightly small display (low character count), but it was very cheap so that didn't matter. That and I burned the fan up inside it when cleaning it out one day with an air gun...been a while since I did that and it still runs like a champ, and I use the onboard amp and beat it quite a bit no problems

My 9855 sounds just fine, I've had no problems. Several features, built in crossover, timing, EQ, and a ton more. Although the advanced features are in a setup area that requiers a key combination instead of just hitting the setup button.

Also the PDX amps are quite nice.

edison_GTI
07-28-2007, 11:56 AM
How do you like the plain black and white display??

Excellent for me, I don't like flashy HU.