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thylantyr
07-14-2007, 09:05 PM
post #152

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11032600#post11032600

550w @ 4 ohms 1% distortion. Rated 1000w @ 4 ohms.

Doesn't make it bad, just less power than advertised.. as expected ...

exige
07-14-2007, 11:43 PM
f*ck dude i just bought one of those.....

Lil Poot
07-14-2007, 11:48 PM
they're actually called buttkicker? :laugh:

pitbull12887
07-14-2007, 11:51 PM
they're actually called buttkicker? :laugh:

x2... u know there gonna ****. Just like the B.A.S.S subs! lol

exige
07-15-2007, 12:21 AM
x2... u know there gonna ****. Just like the B.A.S.S subs! lol



granted i have now been lied to by the company...regardless....they're not called buttkicker because they think the amp is sweet. they're called buttkicker because the amp normally powers "low frequency vibrator" for sore lack of a better term. essentially, you stick this low frequency thing inside the cushion of your couch. it will then shake the couch on low bass scenes to make it seem as you are actually in the action. its like the rumble feature on PS and Nintendo controllers....except this one is accoustically tuned. it actually works quite well. regardless....i got jipped on the amp.

thylantyr
07-15-2007, 01:11 AM
Stay tuned for the 2 ohm test coming soon.

1loudsuv
07-15-2007, 01:56 AM
hmmmm I have yet to order an amp.... and I was this close to ordering a buttkicker today. But I really dont want anything that doesnt do at least 1500 watts at 4 ohms... and my gut says not even the behringer does 1500 (ep2500) and the plate amps have been tested to do 700-800 watts so I might just go plate amp now....

1loudsuv
07-15-2007, 02:04 AM
hmmmm I have yet to order an amp.... and I was this close to ordering a buttkicker today. But I really dont want anything that doesnt do at least 1500 watts at 4 ohms... and my gut says not even the behringer does 1500 (ep2500) and the plate amps have been tested to do 700-800 watts so I might just go plate amp now....

LOL I just read and I was right! My gut was right I am gonna go with the ed audio 1300 watt plate amp now, no ifs.....


(edit) thought the l/r test was the mono tests, looks very promising at 4 ohms mono the 2500 behringer. Looks like I found my anew amp then :)

adio
07-15-2007, 09:00 AM
Stay tuned for the 2 ohm test coming soon.

hopefully soon. why hasn't anyone else don e these tests before?

joetama
07-15-2007, 09:22 PM
Interesting... Very Interesting...

I want his test equipment setup...:fyi:

ballstothewall
07-15-2007, 11:11 PM
I was his test equipment setup...:fyi:


x2

thylantyr
07-16-2007, 02:36 AM
Even if the buttkicker kicks down 500w @ 4 ohms, 750w @ 2 ohms clean,
is $250 a good price considering it has RCA input, crossovers, class D, fanless design.

Bash 500w is normally $228 {in sale right now for $159} and is 500W @ 4ohms,
not rated for 2 ohms.

Dayton 500w is $298 for 500W @ 4 ohms, not rated for 2 ohms.

Dayton 1000w is $398 for 1000w @ 4 ohms, not rated for 2 ohms.

These Bash - Dayton amps, who knows what they really do vs. specs.
I usually like to play it safe and assume they do less than advertised
if you were to run a stress test like the buttkicker went through.

Behringer EP2500, $350 street price, proven workhorse in the DIY sub world.
Tested recently {same test as the buttkicker} at 2000w @ 4 ohms, but
expect 1400w - 1600w under low voltage conditions. The amp will run into
thermal protect in minutes though. $100 more than buttkicker, but you have
fans, it's full range, not just a sub amp, may need a signal booster if you use
RCA to XLR input, no low pass crossover, but has more power than the buttkicker.

I guess the moral of the story is. In the $250 price range it's 'iffy' if you want
higher power. In the $350 - 400 price range you can feel comfortable that you
can drive the typical 1kw woofer. But if you have a 2kw-3kw woofer {or array of
cheaper woofers}, you will need to get into the $500 - $800 price range for a nice
amp.. and of course you can always go higher.. heh

theCybe
07-16-2007, 02:54 AM
The term is 'tactile transducer,' and the amp isn't intended to power speakers. It's intended to power 'bass shakers,' which you mount to objects like your couch/sofa/listening chair.

If you can detect 1% THD from the amp at 15hz through your lazy boy by the seat of your pants, you have a golden ***.





This is like frowning upon the siren in your car alarm for it's poor frequency response and transition characteristics.

1loudsuv
07-16-2007, 03:11 AM
but
not just a sub amp, may need a signal booster if you use
RCA to XLR input, no low pass crossover,

ok where can I get rca to xlr? and do I need a booster for my denon? i think it outputs 2 volts. If so what booster (cheap but good lol)

joetama
07-16-2007, 11:50 AM
ok where can I get rca to xlr? and do I need a booster for my denon? i think it outputs 2 volts. If so what booster (cheap but good lol)

Just build a 1/4 inch to RCA adapter because most amps will have a 1/4 inch input...

If they don't just build a RCA to XLR adapter...

ballstothewall
07-16-2007, 12:58 PM
B & H photo sells them.

joetama
07-16-2007, 04:51 PM
I guess most people have to buy them...

Working for a Sound & Communications company makes me forget that not everyone has connectors and cable laying around everywhere... LAWL

ballstothewall
07-16-2007, 06:01 PM
I guess most people have to buy them...

Working for a Sound & Communications company makes me forget that not everyone has connectors and cable laying around everywhere... LAWL

Lucky bastard, ship some XLR ends my way, I need some extras. Along with about 500 foot of cable be nice too. :naughty:

1loudsuv
07-17-2007, 06:47 PM
14% thd at 700 something watts @2ohms (buttkicker)

iagrdshaka
07-17-2007, 07:21 PM
Even if the buttkicker kicks down 500w @ 4 ohms, 750w @ 2 ohms clean,
is $250 a good price considering it has RCA input, crossovers, class D, fanless design.


Where can you buy that for $250?

ballstothewall
07-17-2007, 08:26 PM
Its ~275 at Amazon.com and even ships free.

thylantyr
07-17-2007, 11:14 PM
After Chucks test, people will be selling their BKA for cheap.

On the IB cult forum, one person just listed theirs for $200. lol

Scare tactics, sell sell sell.. wait for the price to drop to $150... lol

1loudsuv
07-17-2007, 11:56 PM
shhh for $125 ill buy one hahahaha I dunno how or why but since I put in the box next to my towers the bass is ridiculously louder... so adding a 15" with 400 watts will do for now hahaha

adio
07-18-2007, 01:25 AM
Even if the buttkicker kicks down 500w @ 4 ohms, 750w @ 2 ohms clean,
is $250 a good price considering it has RCA input, crossovers, class D, fanless design.

Bash 500w is normally $228 {in sale right now for $159} and is 500W @ 4ohms,
not rated for 2 ohms.

Dayton 500w is $298 for 500W @ 4 ohms, not rated for 2 ohms.

Dayton 1000w is $398 for 1000w @ 4 ohms, not rated for 2 ohms.

These Bash - Dayton amps, who knows what they really do vs. specs.
I usually like to play it safe and assume they do less than advertised
if you were to run a stress test like the buttkicker went through.

Behringer EP2500, $350 street price, proven workhorse in the DIY sub world.
Tested recently {same test as the buttkicker} at 2000w @ 4 ohms, but
expect 1400w - 1600w under low voltage conditions. The amp will run into
thermal protect in minutes though. $100 more than buttkicker, but you have
fans, it's full range, not just a sub amp, may need a signal booster if you use
RCA to XLR input, no low pass crossover, but has more power than the buttkicker.

I guess the moral of the story is. In the $250 price range it's 'iffy' if you want
higher power. In the $350 - 400 price range you can feel comfortable that you
can drive the typical 1kw woofer. But if you have a 2kw-3kw woofer {or array of
cheaper woofers}, you will need to get into the $500 - $800 price range for a nice
amp.. and of course you can always go higher.. heh

y is that?

thylantyr
07-18-2007, 01:33 PM
The amp will run into thermal protect in minutes though.

The rms test method is used to test the amps. It's a sine wave input on
the amp {test tone} and the load is a resistor.

The amplifier is working very hard vs. playing music and it will get got
very fast. If the heatsink/fan design can't dissipate the heat well, the
protection circuit may turn off the amp.

adio
07-18-2007, 05:24 PM
The amp will run into thermal protect in minutes though.

The rms test method is used to test the amps. It's a sine wave input on
the amp {test tone} and the load is a resistor.

The amplifier is working very hard vs. playing music and it will get got
very fast. If the heatsink/fan design can't dissipate the heat well, the
protection circuit may turn off the amp.

oh:) ok, so it won't do that with music and movies then...... i got it