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thefunkybunch
07-11-2007, 11:09 PM
since i've left this industry, i've sorta fallen behind on what's new and good out there, which is why i'm posting here.

i currently have a set of the boston pro 6.53's, and while they sound good i'm just trying to simplify perhaps just for the sake of change. my last component set was the boston Z6's, so you know roughly what i've been dealing with the past few years. i currently am running my mids through an old school ppi a404 amplifier, though that may take a seat in the closet here when i change out the speakers for an alpine pdx amp.

what i'm looking for is something with a very strong midbass, great midrange and smooth tweets. everything from hearing the string bass sing to hearing the loud
'snap' on the snare drum. i listen to a lot of classic rock, classical, salsa, and basically anything chesky releases. i am super hyper-**** about how my setup sounds. i have a very high reference level to compare to the sound i'm trying to achieve. price isn't really that important, but no i don't plan on spending 2 grand on a pair of speakers.

just trying to see if some of you nuts have any suggestions as to what is out there now that will give me what i'm seeking. some other speakers i've heard and liked besides the Z's are the dynaudio's, a set of the focal utopia's, and the jl zr's (though the boston Z's are way better than the zr's).

some i really don't like, anything infinity, quarts, the kenwood xxvwhatever the anniversery speakers are (besides being waaaaay overpriced and out of their league in that price range). dislike alpine speakers, etc.

thanks for readin my ramblin, any info appreciated.

tbasile1
07-11-2007, 11:13 PM
how much do you want to spend?

thefunkybunch
07-11-2007, 11:16 PM
honestly doesn't really matter. not lookin to go insane, but i'd say i wanna stay around or under the 1000 mark or so, give or take. regardless, i will try and find somewhere around here or orlando to actually listen for myself before i purchase, just lookin for ideas of some of the newer stuff really. interested in the new boston z's... 1" of excursion sounds interesting. i've had boston forever and a day now, lookin for some change.

hemiscott
07-11-2007, 11:17 PM
There is plenty of good ones out there, check into rainbow audio (Yes, gay name but good comps.).

tbasile1
07-11-2007, 11:20 PM
Rainbow
Focal
Dynaudio
Hertz
Morel

just to name a few

Wkbdkid
07-11-2007, 11:26 PM
Im currently in the process of installin my Hi-Energies. Their made by Hertz, which is Audisons speaker line. Ive only heard em in a demo room, but strong midbass and smooth tweets. And if you want something even better i heard the Mille(sp?) lines is even better.

thefunkybunch
07-11-2007, 11:33 PM
any particular models? never heard of hertz... and unfortunately there are no rainbow, morel, or dynaudio's anywhere near me that i can find...

Wkbdkid
07-11-2007, 11:37 PM
Where ya live? Could be wrong but i think Hertz is fairly new, only been out a year or two.

thefunkybunch
07-11-2007, 11:43 PM
was just lookin at the hertz website... looks interesting. i see they are with audison, which is a good sign. i'll have to see if anyone in florida carries any of their lines... their website isn't very helpful and i really don't want to order anything from online stores, especially something that expensive that i'm that picky about if i can't hear it myself first.

snb778
07-12-2007, 12:17 AM
Aura

Eugenics
07-12-2007, 12:58 AM
Seas

probmxstyle
07-12-2007, 01:04 AM
Polk SR components have extremely smooth tweets and an amazing midbass.

aleborjas
07-12-2007, 02:19 AM
what about boston acoustic?

6spdcoupe
07-13-2007, 12:19 AM
Im currently in the process of installin my Hi-Energies. Their made by Hertz, which is Audisons speaker line. Ive only heard em in a demo room, but strong midbass and smooth tweets. And if you want something even better i heard the Mille(sp?) lines is even better.

Hertz and Audison are seperate companies. Audison does not make the drivers for Hertz, but they are both under the umbrella of Elettromedia. ;)

6spdcoupe
07-13-2007, 12:20 AM
Where ya live? Could be wrong but i think Hertz is fairly new, only been out a year or two.

Actually many years, just getting a lil more popularity stateside since the seperation of Audison/Focal Elettromedia brought Hertz over here. :)

CrazedCat
07-13-2007, 06:56 AM
Dynaudio Esotec 342

Sythlord79
07-13-2007, 11:40 AM
off topic, but why did ur 6's sound better than the ZR's?

I own Utopia's and Im not happy with the midrange/midbass, the tweets are so strong. I was looking for a change also.

Eugenics
07-13-2007, 02:22 PM
off topic, but why did ur 6's sound better than the ZR's?

I own Utopia's and Im not happy with the midrange/midbass, the tweets are so strong. I was looking for a change also.

yeah the tweets are pretty harsh. have you tried deadning your door?

Here-I-Come
07-13-2007, 05:24 PM
DLS Iridium's and Nobelium's
New Oz Audio Matrix Elite's
Focal Utopia's
Polk SR's
Seas Lotus
Hybrid Audio legatia

thefunkybunch
07-14-2007, 09:42 PM
off topic, but why did ur 6's sound better than the ZR's?

I own Utopia's and Im not happy with the midrange/midbass, the tweets are so strong. I was looking for a change also.

the tweets in the Z's were a little bit smoother than the tweets in the ZR's, and i think that's where boston's AMD stuff kicks in and smoothes out the response curve. the midbass in the boston's blew the jl's out of the water. them things kick hard, and i did absolutely no sound deadening in my doors! granted that was in a jetta, and them things are completely sealed up on their own, but the zr's were in a jetta of the same year so it was an even comparison between the two. the midrange was a lot more pronounced, snare hits just had that 'snap' that rings out, and vocals were just outstanding with both. the bostons just had a darker, more defined sound, while the jl's seemed to be a bit more 'airy'. now i'm not saying the jl's sounded bad by any means, they sounded fantastic. but an A/B comparison between them and the boston Z6's, i'd take the Z6's without hesitation.

CRAZYCORNUTS18
07-14-2007, 09:49 PM
Cdt

thefunkybunch
07-14-2007, 10:14 PM
honestly, i've heard and installed CDT's and really have not been impressed with them. they seem to lack the warm, natural sound i'm looking for, and they start to add color when you crank up the volume. i'm really not a fan of the polk's, again they just don't sound right. i've been a musician for many years, and know what instruments are supposed to sound like, and when they're being colored by a driver, which is why i am so particular on the sound. i'm gonna listen to the new z's on monday

DejaWiz
07-15-2007, 03:00 AM
Is that $1000 for just the comps or for the comps and PDX amp?

If just the comps, how about the Rainbow Power Line CS (http://car.rainbow-audio.de/products/details.php?lan=2&pro=1&lin=5&art=231161)? You can get them from one of the dealers on here for just under $1000 shipped. You'll need lots of mounting depth, however. Bridge the amp and throw them 250+ wrms pc. They'll take it like a champ (and maybe even beg for a little more).

genxx
07-15-2007, 03:26 AM
If you do not like the Polk SR or CDT stuff you are going to need to head up the food chain.
Dynaudio, Rainbow, Seas Lotus, Scan-Speak ala Alpine F1, Hertz, Morel, New JBL comps just to name some to take a look at. Look into going DIY also. They are going to cost you. You are getting into the 700+ range at that point. So if spending $1000 on just comps that is where I would start looking.

probmxstyle
07-15-2007, 07:34 PM
honestly, i've heard and installed CDT's and really have not been impressed with them. they seem to lack the warm, natural sound i'm looking for, and they start to add color when you crank up the volume. i'm really not a fan of the polk's, again they just don't sound right. i've been a musician for many years, and know what instruments are supposed to sound like, and when they're being colored by a driver, which is why i am so particular on the sound. i'm gonna listen to the new z's on monday

Did you listen to Polks lower end lines or actually there SR line? Reason I as it because I had Boston Pro's and also Kicker SS comps. The Polks I have now are the most natural and realistic sounding speakers I have heard.

Sythlord79
07-15-2007, 07:55 PM
the tweets in the Z's were a little bit smoother than the tweets in the ZR's, and i think that's where boston's AMD stuff kicks in and smoothes out the response curve. the midbass in the boston's blew the jl's out of the water. them things kick hard, and i did absolutely no sound deadening in my doors! granted that was in a jetta, and them things are completely sealed up on their own, but the zr's were in a jetta of the same year so it was an even comparison between the two. the midrange was a lot more pronounced, snare hits just had that 'snap' that rings out, and vocals were just outstanding with both. the bostons just had a darker, more defined sound, while the jl's seemed to be a bit more 'airy'. now i'm not saying the jl's sounded bad by any means, they sounded fantastic. but an A/B comparison between them and the boston Z6's, i'd take the Z6's without hesitation.

hey thanks for the comparison. Ive heard the ZR's in a chevy truck with the tweets in the doors and they sounded incredible compared to my Utopia's (tweet molded in A-pillar, firing at each other, in a dodge truck). both trucks are sound deadened.

I wanna hear the Boston Z's now. I really need the midbass to shine, the tweets are so harsh in my truck. too IN UR FACE sounding, maybe because the tweets are up high closer to my head. I dunno. Im only running front stage and 10w7 in a regular cab.

My setup sounds good, but Ive heard some competition SQ vehicles that have sounded AMAZING! so life-like with so much depth, I could picture the instruments and singer on the dash, like an acoustic hologram or somethin. unbelievable SQ.

SORRY DIDNT MEAN TO HIJACK THE THREAD, I just like to learn.

thefunkybunch
07-16-2007, 08:43 PM
well, i've heard a new set of the boston spz's... i'm sold. it is exactly what i'm looking for. looks like they're a bit mroe expensive than the old z6's, but appears to be worth it. i'll let you know when i get 'em put in within the next couple weeks.

Eugenics
07-17-2007, 07:59 PM
well, i've heard a new set of the boston spz's... i'm sold. it is exactly what i'm looking for. looks like they're a bit mroe expensive than the old z6's, but appears to be worth it. i'll let you know when i get 'em put in within the next couple weeks.

I'm actually curious about the SPZ's vs. Z6's. How much power were they being fed? What were the differences? Likes, Dislikes, etc. etc. Might be putting a set in a vehicle in a month or two.

Tonyguy
07-17-2007, 08:42 PM
Im currently in the process of installin my Hi-Energies. Their made by Hertz, which is Audisons speaker line. Ive only heard em in a demo room, but strong midbass and smooth tweets. And if you want something even better i heard the Mille(sp?) lines is even better.

I've been using the 2 way Hertz Hi-Energies for about a month now and i love them. They are smooth and never overbearing on the ear. I can listen for hours and enjoy every bit of it. They're beautiful speakers for the money and the 3 ways are even better.

fearthisskyy
07-17-2007, 08:46 PM
dynaudio x1000

go test drive a vdub w/ a dynaudio system...

sandbags
07-17-2007, 08:51 PM
if you want dynaudio get the new Cadence CVLs same thing 1/4 the price

if you want great midbass go with JBL GTIs

WhoSayWho?
07-17-2007, 09:50 PM
if you want dynaudio get the new Cadence CVLs same thing 1/4 the price
if you want great midbass go with JBL GTIs

Well I did not know that. Care to explain that further? Thanks.

6spdcoupe
07-17-2007, 10:58 PM
+ 1 Id love to hear this ...

Eugenics
07-17-2007, 11:03 PM
+ 1 Id love to hear this ...

heh

Tonyguy
07-17-2007, 11:10 PM
if you want dynaudio get the new Cadence CVLs same thing 1/4 the price

if you want great midbass go with JBL GTIs

:laugh: wow

xtremekustomz
07-19-2007, 10:25 PM
Dynaudio and Cadence are not the same thing. Anyway, if you want a strong midbass I'd say got with a 3 way. First thing you will need to do is deaden your doors really well and seal up all the open spaces. Basically seal your door off. The dyn 3 ways are crazy. I have the old system 360 but I'm only using the 8" for my midbass but they sound really good, are VERY loud. Be sure to have at least 200 watts on each side to really make them shine. Put the midbass in your doors, midrange and tweet in the kick panels. I had the 8's in my doors on my 2000 silverado behind the factory grille.

chh777
12-27-2007, 10:08 AM
Will you be running components active? If so I have a line on some comps you may be interested in.

BTW, I've been hard pressed to find a better bang-for-buck SQ amp than my PPI A404s. I even purchased an Audison LRx and although it's a fantastic amp it's not all that over the PPI as far as SQ goes.

Black3SQ
12-27-2007, 10:17 AM
http://www.cadencestore.com/ProductCart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=89&idproduct=235


Ehh, they have similar cosmetics.

its_bacon12
12-27-2007, 10:22 AM
there are plenty of components you can get to sound just as good as a set that cost well over 600 for less than 200.

just do some of your own research. spend a little time looking at products, reviews and what makes a product of quality. i spent $125 on a pair of RE comps BNIB and i couldnt be happier. they compare in sound quality to components that cost 3-4 times as much

its_bacon12
12-27-2007, 10:26 AM
Will you be running components active? If so I have a line on some comps you may be interested in.

BTW, I've been hard pressed to find a better bang-for-buck SQ amp than my PPI A404s. I even purchased an Audison LRx and although it's a fantastic amp it's not all that over the PPI as far as SQ goes.

have you heard the coustic DR series amps? :p:

btw, the coustic dr amps dont have any sort of crossover. its just purely a gain block

its_bacon12
12-27-2007, 10:28 AM
and OP please keep in mind its mostly install dependant how your setup will sound..

OldSchoolBass-G
12-27-2007, 10:31 AM
hey them CVL's Are looking a lot like a Dynaudio driver...I have to say the Mid driver says dynaudio all over it.Anyone know about the build house or specs comparison?

WhoSayWho?
12-27-2007, 10:37 AM
Who are you guys talking to? The OP started this thread last summer and he has not even logged in for nearly two months.

its_bacon12
12-27-2007, 10:53 AM
hm. lmao didnt check the first post date someone ressurected this bish