View Full Version : Finally....My new install build

07-03-2007, 05:54 PM
I finally got everything coming for my next system...

1 Premier 960
2 sets of JBL 660gti components "60th anniversary edition"
(I got 2 out of the 5 sets released to Canada):cool:
a JBL PX 600.2 amp
4 W10gti MKll subs
1 Crown BPX 2200.1 amp
1 250 amp Iraggi Alt
1 Soundstream 8 farad capacitor
1 Soundstream Powerplant (digital distribution block)

it's gonna be a fun build:)

07-03-2007, 05:57 PM
The cap = Waste of $$$

07-03-2007, 05:58 PM
woopty doodoo. I thought this was a build log. Feg.

j/k. but seriously, don't lead us on

07-03-2007, 06:11 PM
there will be lots of build pics..
I got a bunch of metal fab,fiberglassing and
woodwork to do in this install

and the cap really isn't a waste...the BPX amps are power hungry
alternator eating machines..I got a small graveyard full of dead
alternators from my two BPX 1100.1 amps
with the 250 amp alt 2 yellowtops
and the cap I'm more than covered..and it's a nice looking cap:)

I'll post pics as stuff gets done

07-03-2007, 07:21 PM
sweet build pics, j/k make sure you keep us updated

07-04-2007, 07:58 PM
Just because the amps are power hungry doesn't change the fact that caps don't do ish.

Love all your box builds though.

07-04-2007, 08:11 PM
people SHUT the HELL up about the cap. its not YOUR build who cares

post pics! asap!

07-04-2007, 09:43 PM
Like everyone else said....ditch the cap, upgrade your alt and batt + wiring and you should be fine.

07-04-2007, 09:46 PM
Finally...another man who reps the crown gear :thumbsup:

Cant wait to see this man

07-04-2007, 10:18 PM
I got a 250 amp alt a roll of 0/1 gage and two yellow tops...
I don't think my electrical system needs upgrading..
the cap is for show..it's got a digital dissplay...
plus I get all my stuff for dealer cost so the price is not
all that bad..

07-04-2007, 10:22 PM
Subscribed. Looking forward to this. I've seen some of your enclosure builds and they're impressive to say the least.

07-08-2007, 02:12 PM
I got a little present from JBL................



my subs are supposed to be here this week as well as the PX 600.2
and the components will be shortly behind

I already have the BPX 2200.1 and the Iraggi 250 amp alt

the cap,head unit and power station have all arrived

07-08-2007, 02:14 PM
What's this all going into?

07-08-2007, 02:22 PM
I wish I could say it's going into a Hummer..but it's not...

I got a 1993 Ford Topaz ..it's not sporty but it's in really
good shape and it has the V6..
the back seat is going bye bye to make room for the
4 W10gti subs

07-08-2007, 02:24 PM
What's this all going into?


07-08-2007, 02:29 PM
Finally...another man who reps the crown gear :thumbsup:

Cant wait to see this man

No joke....I'm a crown user myself. Great stuff you got pal :thumbsup:

07-21-2007, 04:29 AM
some of my equiptment came in:santa:

These W10GTI subs are a real peice of art





Look how the 10" gti Towers over the Bassworx 12":naughty:

a Crown BPX 2200.1

a 250 amp Iraggi alt

and the Premier 980 Blue tooth... I wanted the next model up but for some
retarded reasen it is un available in Canada


I am building a couple of Test Boxes for a single W10gti to get the
cf3 and tunning I need for the desired effect then I will make the big enclosure
for the 4 of them....

this is going to be a wild enclosure...it's going to be unlike any enclosure
I have ever seen anywhere....going to put my imagination to the test

the PX 600.2 and the 60th anniversary 660gti components will be here

07-21-2007, 01:37 PM
nice gear ive always loved those subs

07-21-2007, 01:51 PM
You mean a mercury topaz?

it's the same thing as a for tempo...

that 130hp engine is going to cough and wheeze with those 4 JBL's in the trunk :)...

all I have to say is SWEET... I loving doing builds in cars worth 1/4 of what the stereo is worth (no I'm not making fun of you...)

anyways.. enjoy! looks like some very nice equipment...

07-21-2007, 02:03 PM
Stuff looks really good so far. Eagerly awaiting the pics of the build up. That JBL stuff sure is purty lol.

07-21-2007, 02:07 PM
those subs are nice looking.

07-21-2007, 03:38 PM
You mean a mercury topaz?

it's the same thing as a for tempo...

that 130hp engine is going to cough and wheeze with those 4 JBL's in the trunk :)...

all I have to say is SWEET... I loving doing builds in cars worth 1/4 of what the stereo is worth (no I'm not making fun of you...)

anyways.. enjoy! looks like some very nice equipment...

actually the Topaz has a 3.2L V6...

but my wife talked me into trading my Topaz for her

the Tempo has a cleaner interior and air conditioning

the back seat is going bye bye.....trust me this install will
be very unique..

I just built my first test box for a single sub...1.60cf3 tunned at 32hz
and I will probably make 3 or 4 more to make shure I got the inner
cf3 and tunning I need for the desired effect I am looking for then
I will do the big enclosure
the amps will be mounted on the enclosure,,,there will be Lexan
and I got a buddy at work that is an INSANE graffity artist

got the deck installed and I'm doing a temporary install for the
BPX so I can test the different enclosures

this thread is going to be really long and lots of pics

07-21-2007, 03:46 PM
this thread is going to be really long and lots of pics

Looking forward to it. When are you planning on starting the build?

07-21-2007, 03:52 PM
**** im a graffiti fanatic. now i really can't wait. nice

07-21-2007, 03:53 PM
run those subs inverted!

07-21-2007, 04:18 PM
run those subs inverted!

i think they would be to tall to fit inside :laugh:

07-21-2007, 10:38 PM
I tried the 1.60cf3 box with 32hz tunning....

OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!! these subs HAMMER....
and the bass is very detailed...money well spent

I'll have a few pics up later

07-22-2007, 03:48 AM
please excuse all the crap laying around...
I am snapping pics as I go

here is my 1993 Ford Tempo....

soon to be Tempo with Tempo :D


the head unit is installed....all connections silver soldiered
as you can see the interior is MINT....

I used a Bolt and lock washers to bare shinny metal to ground
the amp...tight as it will go with out stripping it

this is only temporary....the BPX 2200.1 is Bolted to the floor
under the drivers seat...
Pain in the *** the floor has a hump in it so I had to level it out
with some MDF

once I am done the big enclosure for all 4 subs the amp will
have a new home...

here is a snapshot of my first test box....this one is 1.60cf3 plus port
and sub dissplacement tunned at 32hz....
27sq inches of port area

the inside of the kerf cut is fiberglassed and I added another 45*
and filled in the corner by the baffle...

being a test box I only did a single sided flare....


I wanted to take morew pics but my Camera eats batteries like
a mother..more pics coming tomorrow

I left the stalk alt in for now....I have to fab up a bracket
for the Iraggi at work sometime during the next week or two
but I ran a 4 gage line from the alt
out put to the battery....tomorrow I will add another ground from battery -
to the chassie
and if I can figure out how I'll test my camera's video capability...

these Wgti subs are INCREDIBLE...it sounds like a pair of 12"
in the trunk

as soon as the components get here I can start fiberglassing
some pods....
the tweeters have wave guides so I am going to try and fit
them into the install

07-22-2007, 02:19 PM
Sponsored by JBL or somethin'??

07-22-2007, 03:14 PM
nice your testbox looks awesome!

07-22-2007, 03:19 PM
Props to ya for running Harman stuff.

I had a single W10GTi in 1.75 cf tuned to 27Hz off only a GTO601.1 and to this day it's the best sub I have owned. Got loud but the SQ was amazing.

07-22-2007, 05:00 PM
I had several of the old style gti subs and they were impressive
for SQ...

but these new Wgti's are unreal....no boomy bass with these
the distinction between each note is awsome
my last install had Rockford Power HX2's..they hit hard and
got sickly low (my car would levitate on 15hz) but I forgot
what real bass sounds like

out of all the systems I have owned the old Harmon/Kardon
CA-260 amps with the JBL subs/components is the sound
I have been trying to duplicate over the years with no luck

I finnally got it back:naughty:

07-22-2007, 09:02 PM
The test box looks sick! Lol!

Nice craftsmanship!

07-23-2007, 03:09 AM
it has been a real ****** day for me....
I SMOKED a W10gti in the test box.....

it was doing fine..had it loosened up a bit and put in
one of my favorite disks....Low and Slow 3

welll the sub got really low then the volume got low
and the interior of the car was full of smoke so I had
to turn the windows down and drive real slow:blackeye:

can anyone say recone?????

anyways it's on it's way for a rebuild in the morning

all I can say is the sub did really well...no bottoming out
no weird noises or anything..

I just plain and simply over powered the poor little thing

I stuck in another one and turned the gain right to the bottom
and hooked up the remote bass level control so I could turn it
down even further

the smell was enough to make me sick...gonna take weeks to get
that odour out of the car

07-23-2007, 03:27 AM
That *****, at least you have 3 more to test with ;)

07-24-2007, 02:12 AM
W10gti in the test box.....

I have it forward firing pulled right to the back
of the car.....

it is unbeleivable the SQ these things put out....

Metallica's double drums sound like a machine gun
and the bass from rap is unreal...very tight:violent:

like some of the guys at work said
you hear a pair of 12" and you see a single 10"...OOPS!!!!


when you guys see what is going to happen to the interior
you are gonna ****.... :omg:

07-24-2007, 02:25 AM
nice box and 2 bad about ur sub

07-24-2007, 03:22 AM
what did you use to fill in the slots on the bend?

07-24-2007, 09:09 PM
I soak the Kerfs in Fiberglass Resin...it works well

if you mix it right is stays thin untill it soaks right in
before it hardens

07-24-2007, 09:14 PM

07-24-2007, 09:18 PM
When you kerf, where does the port entrance start and where do you start measuring the port length? I'm guessing it starts when the walls line up parallel.

07-24-2007, 09:21 PM


07-25-2007, 02:02 AM
some electrical upgrades....

I re used some of the wiring from my last system....

double 4 gage from the battery+ to the BPX 2200.1
and a 100amp high current fuse on each lead

and a 4 gage lead from the alternator to the battery +...
this will be upgraded to 0/1 gage when I install the Iraggi
alternator (and a good preasure wash under the hood)

next I will add my yellowtop (if it will fit under the hood) and add
a 0/1 gage ground from the battery - to the chassie

07-25-2007, 09:17 PM
I like to make my test boxes with a huge, high tuned port first, then add layers to the port wall/extentions until it gets reall flat or real loud, or both,whatever im aiming for. Its amazing what I learned just playing with a few boxes like that.

07-25-2007, 09:30 PM
I do the same thing with my test boxes....

I am doing 3 different cf3 sizes and playing with the tunning
on each one

I got some really different Idea's with this install

one thing I do not want is a normal looking install

when people look into my ride their eyes will be buisy
for a while:D

I'll have some more pics up later on tonight
is everyone paying attention??

07-25-2007, 10:14 PM
this is the beginning ...this is how I do an install

there will be LOTSSS of pics coming




07-25-2007, 10:59 PM




07-25-2007, 11:04 PM
i hope you are doing custom doors. rear doors atleast:crap:

07-25-2007, 11:05 PM
You're getting rid of those doors and you're just playing around right now... right?

07-25-2007, 11:09 PM
that is the rear door....

I do not have a tattoo so the car is getting a complete wrap
the front doors need some glass work for
the 2 sets of 660gti components...that will be coming soon....

the back seats are going bye bye to make room for
the 4 W10gti's... the enclosure is going to be fun...

I'll just say you will see all the W10gti's

pics will be updated every day or two as he doodles away..
I figure it will take him a month to cover the whole interior

07-28-2007, 07:59 PM
here is some video's from my
single 10" sub in a test enclosure

the camera mic craps out from the SPL
but it's clear from outside

the interior is still torn apart and I will be
building the enclosure for the 4 subs over the
next few weeks....this one is going to be crazy



07-29-2007, 02:13 AM

James Bang
07-30-2007, 03:50 PM
if possible can you send me some info on where to recone a JBL gti. I have a blown 10" here and i'm not sure what to do w/ it. If you PM me the info on who to contact, that would be very appreciated.

nice looking test box btw. i always enjoyed your work.

07-30-2007, 08:31 PM
I just had my JBL dealer send the sub in for reconing...
your best bet is to contact JBL teck support...

I'll be going on #2 here soon.....I need to get all 4 subs installed
that amp has a little too much power for a single sub..I have
had smoke roll out of the enclosure a few times with this sub
too....but dam!!!! it shure hits like a mother for a single 10"

07-30-2007, 08:44 PM
Sub'd. Nice equipment and will be great to follow the progress of your project.

07-31-2007, 01:21 AM

08-10-2007, 07:41 PM
I am completely speechless....:veryhapp:

my components came in today....

un friggin real the quality in these babies.....

I am going to have to do an exceptional job on the install
for these things....

they come in an aluminum breif case.....
I almost spunn one off when I seen them:D

I have 2 sets of these things....2 out of 5 sets released to Canada

the other set is on dissplay behind glass at Crown Electronics
untill my door skins are done






the 6.5" mids...



08-10-2007, 07:41 PM
pure titanium dome tweeter and wave guide



the mids have a hand stitched leather cosmetic ring or a carbon fiber
cosmetic ring...



the X-over is a real work of art too....





I will be running one X-over per channel and I decided to
run one PX 600.2 amp per channel

I'm all hyped..time to pull out the fiberglassing material and go to work
on the doors

It is going to be a SICK Sound Quality system when finished....

08-10-2007, 08:05 PM
WOW those are real beauts!

08-10-2007, 09:25 PM
I got the mounting rings started.....I hope to have pics up
sometime tonight or tomorrow....I'll be ripping the front door
skins apart next ,make a place for the X-overs and a tweeter
(one set of tweeters will go in the front pillars)
then it's fiberglass time....
I am going to take my time with this one..I will try and use
the wave guides on the pillars if possible with out obstructing
my veiw out the windsheild

08-10-2007, 09:31 PM
Nice comps :drool:

08-11-2007, 12:18 AM
got the rings done.....now I got to tear the doors down and place them...

I hope to have the glass work started this weekend...





countersunk 1/4"...


08-11-2007, 01:58 AM
well I got the door skin on the drivers side torn down....
it is going to be a TIGHT fit for two of those mids
but I'm gonna do it....

there is not enough room to fit a X-over on the door
with the two mids so I am going to have to put them
some where else....
I got a location picked out..just gonna have to wait for the pics

that's all for tonight...I'll work on it tomorrow and make the
passenger door match.....
the tweeter for the door will be a simple install...the tweeter
in the pillar will be a bit of work

08-11-2007, 03:17 PM
Looking awesome so far. Good luck with the build...

08-11-2007, 04:40 PM
I'm jealous of good looking installs. But I must ask, why all JBL products? I've looked up some of the pricing on some of the products and those 660GTi Components are 2,000$ MSRP. Seems as if the system is worth 3 times more then the car. Not hating just curious. Great looking build though. Test box looks better then 90% of the peoples real boxes. Looks loud as hell off one 10" too.

08-11-2007, 05:33 PM
I have spent well over $75,000 on car audio since 1985 and
the best sounding systems I have owned were all JBL and
Harmon/Kardon stuff...I have tried lots of other stuff trying to
duplicate the sound with no luck...
since this is going to be my last system I figured to go all out
and build something unique...
as for the car....I do not want to spend thick $$$$ on a car that
will only be used for sound comps, thump-a-thons and to be used
as a demo car to show people what my enclosures sound like but
Personally I would rather be driving a 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT-8
but it isn't in the budget
if I was making payments on a new car I would never be able
to afford this kind of a system..and the system install would
mutilate a new car anyways....it would be a waste of a good car....
I have rattled apart 3 new cars in the past

this way when I am done with the system I can sell the car for
50 bucks with no love lost and move on

lets just call this my mid life crisis toy...

like my dad always told me...go big or *** off:naughty:

I got some more pics coming later on today....

08-11-2007, 05:40 PM
I've always wanted to see someone test out those components. Can't wait to see the finished work.

08-12-2007, 02:00 AM
wow, just wow. i've never seen jbl **** on this level.

08-12-2007, 02:57 AM
got the rings placed.....

I'll be stretching some fleece tomorrow and doing some glassing..

wholly ****!!!! the whole door is going to be speaker :D

I'm gonna need it to keep up with the 4 subs






08-12-2007, 05:25 AM
I added a few things to the install..

I got another Px 600.2 amp coming so I have 1 for each set of

1 Streetglow LED multi-colour under car kit
4 streetglow 6" neo-blue LED's one for each sub cavity
1 Streetglow 15" neo-blue LED for the amps

a 2 way alarm system with pager alert ,back up battery ,two sirens,
two shock sensors and glass breakeage sensor
(brand is confidential)

window tinting

I may end up with a pair of Kinetik batteries
or I will get a new pair of Yellowtops..not shure yet

08-12-2007, 05:44 AM
lookin great

08-12-2007, 09:10 PM
those comp as SEXXY. i have had a few different sets of comps in my car and coaxils and my jbls have been the nicest yet. maybe a switch????

08-13-2007, 12:09 AM
this is as far as I got today....I got to put on a bit more matting
in a few places then some bondo'ing and sanding....

I have not totaly decided on what I am going to finish them
with buit I hope to have these done soon cause I really want
to hear those components



08-13-2007, 03:27 PM
a little test fit before I do any finishing...

I have decided to get a Honda CRX next year to put
this system into so I am not going to extravigant on the

I am going to smooth out all the inperfections and use
truck box liner spray on the glass work then paint it grey
to match the interior.....


08-13-2007, 03:45 PM
Holy **** that looks great.

08-13-2007, 04:07 PM

I had my hands full with these pods....

there was just no room..it is a tight fit...fortunatly
the pods do not stick out far enough to interfear
with my leg room...a definate plus

08-13-2007, 04:12 PM
the pods do not stick out far enough to interfear
with my leg room...a definate plus

That's exactly my concern with door pods in my GTI... I would like to get the mids 30deg (or less) off-axis, but I don't want to have to cross my legs to drive. :laugh:

08-13-2007, 04:18 PM
wow. what an incredible build. i wish i had the money/time/knowledge to do that all in a car. absolutely amazing you have all of my respect haha

08-13-2007, 04:33 PM
wow, that is amazing.

08-13-2007, 04:40 PM
awesome build man.. just awesome. great work

08-13-2007, 10:03 PM
I use an air powered Die Grinder to knock down the bumps
and high spots..it eats thru it like it is butter



I had to customize the handle to open the door and the
handle to roll the window down..

a little resin in a few low spots...a little bondo and a sanding
and it will be ready for the spray

I am guite happy with the fit...it should make a good sounding front stage.. there should be enough airspace to produce decent mid bass

08-14-2007, 01:15 AM
some bondo and sanding to smooth it out

this is as far as I got today....I'll try and finish the sanding tomorrow




08-15-2007, 01:32 AM
it's starting to look the way I want...I scuffed the top of the one pod...
I'll touch it up tomorrow after work and finish the other one...

I think one more coat of box liner will do it..I was going to paint it grey
after the liner cured but I kind of like the black...
I'll leave it black for a while and see how it goes

those mids look sick in there :D





08-15-2007, 02:15 AM
that looks awesome.

08-15-2007, 02:27 AM
Looks sweet. Where the tweets mounted?

08-15-2007, 02:33 AM
one set of tweeters will go in the tops of the doors with
the wave guides and another set of tweeters will be
going into the front pillars..I may have to do some glassing
in the pillars for the tweeters...that will come next

then I have to mount the X-overs....I found a really
unique place for them...
I'll have more pics coming

08-15-2007, 07:55 AM
What type of bed liner spray do you use?

08-15-2007, 08:18 AM
Thumpper, keep the capacitors. To AudioBahn on #2, to AudioExtreme on #6 and to BoomnBlzr on #8, you do know the purpose of the capacitor right ? It's to store an electrical charge, so when the power thirsty amps need to hit that deep bass note the electrical power is there. Say he upgrades the alternator and the battery and doesn't use the capacitors like you suggested Boomn. Guess what, not only will it cost a hec of a lot more money to do that, but in the end it'll wear the alternator and the new battery down, that's why one should use capacitors, so the electrical system doesn't wear down as fast.

08-15-2007, 10:29 AM
I hit the electrical system with a double whammy

I got the 250 amp Iraggi alt and the cap with the wiring to
back both of them up....not gonna be a problem...
some people think a cap is a waste...just like some beleive
in sub sonic filters..I dissagree with both

I hope to have the other door,x-overs and tweeters done soon

08-15-2007, 10:36 AM
Thumpper, those mids look sick Sick SICK in there! Great work and I'm looking forward to seeing the finished product.

08-15-2007, 08:22 PM
I use Dupont Truck Bed Liner ..it is tough as hell and it
dries really fast...

those mids do look sick in the pods...when I first stuck them in I was kind
of in aw for a few minutes...my wife even complimented on them
and my stereo hobby drives her nuts...

I hope the tweeter install will compliment the mids

the sub enclosure is really gonna be a peice of work....

08-15-2007, 08:38 PM
GREAT job mann. love it so far. good luck with the rest... and you have to make a video of everything when your done

08-17-2007, 08:15 PM
got my other set of components today.... 8)



I am going to try and finish the door pods this weekend if I find
time around my blue print orders

08-17-2007, 10:26 PM
It's a good thing JBL was kind enough to wrap everything in their own little drool shield like that.

08-17-2007, 11:17 PM
sick man, thats awesome. your box building and fiberglassing skills are awesome!!

08-18-2007, 04:35 AM
now a matching set


08-18-2007, 05:02 AM
I will be running one X-over per channel and I decided to
run one PX 600.2 amp per channel

I'm all hyped..time to pull out the fiberglassing material and go to work
on the doors

It is going to be a SICK Sound Quality system when finished....

First I just want to say that your box building and fiberglassing work is amazing, I wish I had the experience to be able to pull all that off. I guess everyone has to start somewhere.

But by one crossover per channel, do you mean you are planning on using one pair of woofers in parallel and one pair of tweeters in parallel on each crossover? Because I believe that changing the impedance of the load changes the crossover points of the crossover circuit. Correct me if I'm wrong though, I'm not 100% sure. I hope you mean that you're running one tweeter and one mid per crossover...

Have you considered running this active? You seem to have the amp power to do it, and I'm sure you can afford the processing. You could integrate everything and get much better sound quality that way.

You also said you don't believe in subsonic filters...I don't quite get that. You wouldn't use one to prevent unloading in a ported box? I'm just here to learn from people with more experience, so don't take anything personally.

08-18-2007, 12:16 PM
I am not changing the ohms of anything....
the x-overs each have 2 channels..one channel for left
and one for right...each channel having a 4 ohm load

instead of having each x-over run a left and right channel
I am going to have one x-over designated to the left channel
and the other one would be designated to the right channel
everything is still a normal 4 ohm per channel
and the amps will also run in the same configuration..one
amp strictly for the left and one for the right..a 4 ohm load per

as far as my beleif in sub sonic filters....what does the word
"sub" in sub woofer really mean???
sub means below....a sub woofer produces notes below what
a normal woofer will do...any woofer will pick up notes above
the sub sonic frequencies...a real sub woofer will nail all the
sub sonic notes down to 10hz..
as far as I am concerned a sub woofer set up that does not pick up
sub sonic frequencies is useless...not impressive to me at all..
my systems always go right down to 10hz flawlessly in ported
(I was flexing my doors with a single 10" woofer at 10hz in my test box)
I guess I am just old school..I seriously think sub sonic filters
are a band aid for a crap box or a crap woofer

08-18-2007, 12:44 PM
Ahhh so then each component set comes with only one crossover? So it's a 4-channel crossover... you're just gonna use a 4-channel for the L and a 4-channel for the R. Not a bad idea.

Definitely looks sick so far. I sooooo want to build myself new door panels, but I just don't think it's worth it in this car anymore. :(

08-18-2007, 12:48 PM
Oh, okay, I didn't know the crossovers were 2-channel. I've never had anything nearly so high end. Pretty sweet looking components too.

I can't wait until the day comes when I have the money and space to buy a car and have fun modifying it for audio, looks amazing. Can't wait to see the rest of your progress.

One more question though, how do you cut the slits in the MDF to curve it to make the curved side of the port?

08-18-2007, 12:52 PM
door panels look great man

08-18-2007, 04:22 PM
well I finally had a chance to listen to these things....
the wave guides work awsome so I am going to put
both sets of tweeters in the doors with the wave guides...
man are these things crisp....everything I expected from them:)
it's gonna be sick sounding when I get the amps in

I'll have pics up later on once I get everything cleaned up

08-18-2007, 07:28 PM
awesome build

Joseph K
08-18-2007, 08:33 PM
Nery nice build Thumpper :bowdown: :thumbupw:

08-18-2007, 10:58 PM
anyways got the components installed..
I used both of the wave guides...tried a pair of tweeters on the
pillars with some sticky puddy..placed them all over but the
tweeter in the wave guide sounded best...
I ended up sticking both tweeters in the doors

wholly crap!!!!!!!! these comps sound SWEET :D



the way it is set up the sound swallows you whole...

I like it 8)

I took the car down to Crown electronics to show them off..
we opened both doors and stood about 75 feet behind the car
with the system turned up
(running only 50w rms X 4 at the moment)

my god...it was clear as a bell and the midbass is really
impressive...I have always though JBL made the best
Titanium tweeters and I still have the same opinion now

I'm a very happy camper

08-19-2007, 12:04 AM
Awesome, wish I could hear it. How does it sound when sitting in the car with the doors closed? Does the closeness of the drivers side tweeter make it stand out too much? How is the staging?

08-19-2007, 12:27 AM
the staging is awsome...
the X-over also has a few tweeter adjustments on it

with the way it is set up the sound swallows you up...
it is very full and clear as a bell and really friggin loud...
even standing 100 feet away from the car you can hear
how crisp and tight it is..
I am very impressed....

I have a set of CDT .07x3 components and they do not even
come close to these things...I have them up for grabs...
if anyone is interested.... $900 canadian
if I don't sell them I will probably stick them in the wifes car
with a single 8" sub..it would be more than enough for her

08-19-2007, 11:12 AM
I like your job. it's very nice.

a question is why don't you use one 600.2 on 2 ohm each side?

08-19-2007, 12:04 PM
I want to stick with a 4 ohm load with each set...

08-19-2007, 12:08 PM
wish i could hear it

08-19-2007, 12:57 PM
I want to stick with a 4 ohm load with each set...

why on 4 ohm load?

08-19-2007, 01:23 PM
the PX 600.2 amp puts out 180w rms x 2 into 4 ohm
and 290w rms x 2 into 2 ohm

with a single PX 600.2 each set would receive
145w rms per set and because of the lower
ohm load (2 ohm) the signal to noise ratio will
also be lower

with a PX 600.2 amp per set of components each
set will get 180w rms x 2 at 4 ohm with the highest
signal to noise ratio possible...

the damping factor of the PX 600.2 amp is also higher
at a 4 ohm load than it would be at a 2 ohm load
(better mid bass control)

bottom line each channel will get more power and
slightly better sound quality

08-20-2007, 12:03 AM
amazingggg!!! system

08-20-2007, 04:06 AM
the PX 600.2 amp puts out 180w rms x 2 into 4 ohm
and 290w rms x 2 into 2 ohm

with a single PX 600.2 each set would receive
145w rms per set and because of the lower
ohm load (2 ohm) the signal to noise ratio will
also be lower

with a PX 600.2 amp per set of components each
set will get 180w rms x 2 at 4 ohm with the highest
signal to noise ratio possible...

the damping factor of the PX 600.2 amp is also higher
at a 4 ohm load than it would be at a 2 ohm load
(better mid bass control)

bottom line each channel will get more power and
slightly better sound quality


I could guess that.

how much is the damping factor of it?

08-20-2007, 11:23 PM
The power series amps have a very high "effective damping factor"

here are the specks

.................................................. ......
CEA Rated

Power Output 180 watts RMS x 2 channels at 4 ohms
and ≤ 1% THD + N

290 watts RMS x 2 channels at 2 ohms,
14.4 V supply and ≤ 1% THD + N
Signal-to-Noise Ratio 79.5 dBA (reference 1 watt into 4 ohms)
Dynamic Power 714 watts at 4 ohms
Effective Damping Factor 6.274 at 4 ohms
Maximum Input Signal 5.95 V
Frequency Response 10Hz 97kHz (-3dB)
Maximum Sensitivity 264 mV
Output Regulation .056 db at 4 ohms
Dimensions (H x W x D) 2-9/16" x 17" x 12-1/4"

08-21-2007, 11:50 AM
glad your going with all JBL.. everybody under-estimates them and puts them under the name brand category

My JBL GTi MKII sounded amazing

08-23-2007, 01:53 AM
wish i could hear it


08-25-2007, 05:10 PM
how much did a set of those comps cost? They are sweet

08-25-2007, 05:21 PM
wow do you even know what your doing ?!?! lol jk amazing everything

08-25-2007, 11:35 PM
I had a tough time trying to find a place for those
gigantic X-overs...
this is what I did to them... they are countersunk into
the the racks and bolted on solid



I am also working on the pods for the tweeters....
the placement in the doors is only temporary...
the tweeters are going into the pillars

08-25-2007, 11:37 PM
i envy you

Joseph K
08-26-2007, 01:59 PM
Can anyone say CROSSOVERS? :awesome: Very neat stuff... I'm ready to see what you're doing with the subs...

08-26-2007, 02:25 PM
Looks really nice.

08-27-2007, 09:01 PM
glad your going with all JBL.. everybody under-estimates them and puts them under the name brand category

My JBL GTi MKII sounded amazing

I wouldn't be under estimating JBL in any way
take a look at Team JBL's track record...
they have been on top
for about 5 years or so at all the big comps..Garry Biggs has won
the International Sound Quality Comp trophy for the 7th time strait...
and the only person to ever do so
they clean house in SQ and SQL everywhere they go...big or small comp
this Top end JBL stuff is no joke...to me this puts them in the Best Brand Catagory
it is why I am going with all JBL/Crown in the first place...

09-01-2007, 11:14 PM
I started the pods on the pillars for the tweeters today....
I used a pair of nylons to get the initial shape...

very stretchy and easy to work with

I am going with one set in the wave guides and one pair with out





09-02-2007, 11:57 PM
here are the test pods for the tweets....
the wave guide pods are perfect...they
really make the stage sound big...
the tweeters in the flush mounts are angled towards
the other side

the imaging is very good and the wave guides tucked into the
corners ..they have no effect on my veiw at all



09-03-2007, 04:45 PM
here is the recommended set up for these components...
and an explaination on the wave guides



figure 16 is bassically how I got my stage set up


I am going to make some small adjustments to the pods before I
finish them..

09-03-2007, 04:58 PM

09-03-2007, 05:40 PM
Wow that is looking really impressive. I love those tweeter pods! Well done!

09-03-2007, 05:41 PM
how deep and far apart do you make the cuts to bend the mdf for a flare?

09-09-2007, 03:51 PM
well I tried several configurations with the tweeters
and I like this one the best....
the pods are directed to the center of the car between the front seats
the imaging is very good..I am more than happy with
the sound






09-09-2007, 03:53 PM
holy speakers batman

09-22-2007, 06:49 PM
any updates?

09-22-2007, 08:05 PM
Very nice install. I think its rather funny how big the crossovers are, they are like amps mounted on the rear seats.

09-24-2007, 04:55 PM
doors look sick. all the **** on the dash and in the A pillars is a bit much, me thinks it looks crowded and cramped

09-24-2007, 05:44 PM
This just makes me sad that it is in a naff car.
Other than that - top stuff

09-24-2007, 07:48 PM
Naff... interesting.

12-03-2007, 10:25 PM
been really buisy with work but I got 2 of the subs
in a common chamber enclosure....




I will be making a seperate chamber enclosure over the next few days..
I'll post pics

12-04-2007, 09:19 AM
is that marble or granite or something for the port?

12-04-2007, 03:03 PM
is that marble or granite or something for the port?

it almost looks granite like....it is silver on a black back ground

12-04-2007, 03:06 PM
This just makes me sad that it is in a naff car.
Other than that - top stuff

I would rather have a 2008 Dodge Challenger but after paying
for my system it is not in the budget....

maybee next year...

it's all good though..it is a real sleeper

12-04-2007, 11:57 PM
Absolutely amazing.

12-05-2007, 02:39 AM
Well i know what i will be dreaming about tonigh...those friggin comps! Build quality is amazing! It shows me what is out there and gives me new ideas for installs!

Thanks for your documentation! Look forward to the rest!

12-05-2007, 02:25 PM
Well i know what i will be dreaming about tonigh...those friggin comps!

I had those friggin comps for almost a month before I was able to
listen to them
these things sound really amazing...honestly I have never heard
anything like them in a car before and I get the same response
from everyone who listens to them

JBL just took the EISA Award for the "Best in car speaker system"
with the 660gti comps:D

12-11-2007, 09:38 PM
the common chamber was ok for a short fix but now that
I have some extra time it's time for seperate chambers.....



12-11-2007, 10:09 PM
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12-12-2007, 12:15 AM

12-12-2007, 12:22 AM
i want one! :D

Pop da Hatch
12-12-2007, 12:51 AM
you rock..........love your gear!

12-12-2007, 12:23 PM

wow, dead ****, just one thing i noticed, the bottom right hand corner, it does not look evev, may be the angle? :confused:

12-12-2007, 01:13 PM
wow, dead ****, just one thing i noticed, the bottom right hand corner, it does not look evev, may be the angle? :confused:

if you look close you will notoce it is all loose peices....

it's not even screwed together yet....got to 45* the port
wall and the corner yet..I'll have updated pics later

12-12-2007, 01:52 PM
All I can say is WOW! I just read this thread in it's entirety. Very nice fabrication work and setup you have going. My friend owns a car shop and has switched over to the JBL lineup and I've been pretty impressed with everything in their audio arsenal. Nice to see a build of "what can be" using the JBL equipment. That test box is pretty nice, I may have to pick your pocket for that baby. What are the dimensions on your initial test box for the single?

12-12-2007, 02:28 PM
You're getting rid of those doors and you're just playing around right now... right?

yes I was only kidding...

the whole interior will be black so the graffitti on the door
will be covered up with black vinyl to match the front doors

12-12-2007, 04:10 PM


12-12-2007, 04:54 PM
What size and tuning are you looking at? If I see line written on the wood to extend the port towards the driver, it looks like you're going to have a very long port. That last sentence didn't make much sense haha.

12-12-2007, 06:22 PM
this enclosure is tunned at 32hz

12-12-2007, 09:42 PM

12-12-2007, 09:43 PM
God... How do you people get such dead on cuts?.... All mine are always off a little bit... Always straight... Just off..

12-12-2007, 10:02 PM
It's easy to get precise cuts if you are critical; if you know your equipment well; if you take your time; and if you have quality tools.

12-12-2007, 10:33 PM
wow sweet box man!!!

12-13-2007, 01:33 AM
It's easy to get precise cuts if you are critical; if you know your equipment well; if you take your time; and if you have quality tools.

router with a flush bit ftw :cool:

12-13-2007, 01:44 AM
Nice box :D

12-13-2007, 01:46 AM
wow that thing is a beauty

12-13-2007, 01:56 AM
thanks for the thead.Love those subs!!!!

12-13-2007, 06:29 PM

12-13-2007, 06:31 PM

12-13-2007, 10:13 PM
dude that box is beautiful to say the least. wooowwwww. i appreciate that thing so much only because i have tried many times and my boxes look and sound like ****. how did you get the bend around the port? did i by the wood like that or somthin?

12-13-2007, 11:12 PM
That box came out awesome! I'm drooling over here!

12-13-2007, 11:37 PM
Gob job on the box. I need to try kerfing one day.

12-13-2007, 11:46 PM
holy ****, i jsut read all 12 pages and all these boxes are the ****....Those subs are rediculously huge and those comps are amazing, pretty every thing i just saw was amazing!

12-14-2007, 04:27 AM
got a chance to test it out for a few ...it moves "ALOT" of air
I really like the SQ of the seperate chambers:D

12-14-2007, 08:59 PM
"AY! las naranjas en mi cabeza!" - Bumble Bee Guy


12-15-2007, 03:50 PM
las naranjas en mi cabeza
If my 2 years of spanish is correct that means the oranges in my head

12-20-2007, 04:18 PM
lookin for updates - im pumped to see the end result

12-21-2007, 06:05 PM
I always enjoy watching your builds.

12-23-2007, 08:48 PM
so I tried the 32hz tunning for a while...
I liked the tightness and high impact of the
enclosure tunned at 30hz...
so the seperate cavity enclosure is up for grabs...
I am building another seperate chamber tunned at 30hz

I moved the BPX 2200.1 off the floor and put it
on a simple amp rack in front of the enclosure
for now...once the snow goes away and it warms
up I'll strip the interior to build the ceiling amp rack
and dynamat everything

it looks more like a surf board than an amp


12-28-2007, 12:44 AM
oh boy oh boy....up for grabs now...do tell me the price..you can shoot a PM with price if you need to...thanks!

12-28-2007, 03:30 AM
got the amps both mounted on a rack..
this is where they will stay till I fab up
the inverted rack for the ceiling



12-28-2007, 11:36 AM

12-28-2007, 11:23 PM
looks awesome...can't wait to see what you're going to do when it warms up with the ceiling mounted amp rack...keep the pics and updates coming

12-31-2007, 01:07 PM
instead of slamming my PM box with requests if anyone is interested in
an enclosure contact me thru my home page..

01-03-2008, 01:34 AM
I got such a good deal on these things I could not resist....



01-03-2008, 01:40 AM
I got such a good deal on these things I could not resist....

Did they pay you? :D

01-04-2008, 01:24 PM
they light up that dark hole and display the amps really well...

anyways .....the Split Chamber Test Enclosure is ""SOLD ""
to a forum member

01-10-2008, 02:54 PM
I will be working on the inverted amp rack and new enclosure on my spare time
and finish up the rear seat area..I think I will be going with Twin alternators
on this set up too

01-10-2008, 07:15 PM
hmmmm that looks horrible

01-10-2008, 07:18 PM
i thought you were going to be running 4 of the JBL 10's, whats the deal MANE!!!

01-19-2008, 12:58 AM
got the BPX 2200.1 and the GTO 75.4 inverted on the ceiling
above the rear seats.



now I got room for the 4 woofer enclosure and things are starting to
look alot cleaner...when I strip the interior in the spring to Dynamat
I will be replacing all the power wire and RCA's as well as adding
a capacitor, digital distribution block and a second battery

01-19-2008, 01:07 AM

01-19-2008, 01:16 AM
I'm really not feeling the amp placement but if you like it, awesome!

01-19-2008, 01:29 AM
once the 4 woofers are in there will be no room
anywhere else for the amps...the amp rack is solid
to the car and does not interfear with any useable

01-21-2008, 01:44 PM



now I got room for the 4 woofer enclosure and things are starting to
look alot cleaner...when I strip the interior in the spring to Dynamat
I will be replacing all the power wire and RCA's as well as adding
a capacitor, digital distribution block and a second battery

01-21-2008, 01:48 PM
You may have touched on it man, but aren't your amps going to get super hot mounted like that with the heat rising and having no where to go? Or are they going to be able to stay cool since it's in a large vented space? Sorry if it's already been asked but Reading < Me

01-21-2008, 01:56 PM
Maybe a FG cover over the amps would dress it up a bit?

01-21-2008, 02:01 PM
the heat sink on the JBL amps wraps around the bottom of the amp
and up the sides and the amp rack is cut out behind the amp..there
is more than enough airflow around the heat sinks to keep them cool...
when inverted the heat rises into the heat sink away from the circuts

I was having problems with my GTO 75.4 getting really hot when it was
mounted flat on a carpeted surface and with the way it is set up now
it is not a problem..it stays alot cooler