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mikescanlon
06-26-2007, 07:15 PM
materials: 3/4 polyply birch, welded angle iron supports and braces, titebond 2, drywall screws, blood and sweat, no tears.

the plan: 4.11^3 before displacement, 3.65^3 after displacement tuned to 35hz.

equipment: mt10 and mm2000.1 as mentioned.

mm2000.1 in hand, mt10, in route via ups :uhoh:

truck: chevrolet colorado i2.8, ext cab no seats in rear, triple sound deadened on the back walls, ceiling and floor.



pics of progess around 9pm.

jmanpc
06-26-2007, 07:26 PM
large box. sounds fun.

mikescanlon
06-26-2007, 07:27 PM
large box. sounds fun.

think it's too big? i couldn't find too many other people with mt's, and i dont have any specs from RE, trying to estimate what i think it needs.

grassroots
06-26-2007, 07:30 PM
i'd say less than 2... it's beefy, but it's still a 10 and they don't need much air space...

jmanpc
06-26-2007, 07:31 PM
My XXX 15 is in 4cf...

Pyro_By_Nature
06-26-2007, 07:36 PM
IMO way too big.

BASSMEKANIK
06-26-2007, 07:40 PM
give her 2 cubes after port and sub and she will wang. :)

Odd-io
06-26-2007, 07:42 PM
i'd say less than 2... it's beefy, but it's still a 10 and they don't need much air space...

x2

Just because it's an MT doesn't mean it needs over twice what a 'normal' ten would use.

I've heard from a few people the MT's like smallish boxes anyway. My 12 is in an average size box, 2.5 cubes.

ngsm13
06-26-2007, 07:48 PM
That box is too large, by about DOUBLE.

I would recommend 1.7cubes NET.

nG

Johnny Drama
06-26-2007, 07:53 PM
That box is too large, by about DOUBLE.

I would recommend 1.7cubes NET.

nG

I agree...or even smaller with that power.
1.5-1.7 seems like a good size. 2 cubes is more then enough for the 12" driver...

ngsm13
06-26-2007, 07:55 PM
Indeed.

My 10's were in 1.1 cubes NET ported...

1.2-1.7cubes NET for 10's is what I go by...

nG

tapout
06-26-2007, 07:56 PM
:woot: not waisting any time I see. Will arrive on Thursday. :woot:

mikescanlon
06-26-2007, 08:48 PM
i was thikning two cubes, i guess i'll have to shed some of the box, just finished cutting all the wood too.

tapout! message me the tracking numba please!

thanks!


scratch that, i am just going to put 45's in all the corners and reinforce it from the inside with 1 cube and a half of mdf.

that'll give me ~2 cubes, and actually drop my tuning to 31hz if i dont change my lengths.

sounds like a winner.

BassAce
06-26-2007, 08:53 PM
I see the pics are going to come in 45 min.

mike dressure
06-26-2007, 08:57 PM
im jealous

ngsm13
06-26-2007, 09:05 PM
God, just re-cut a little.

Keep two dimensions the same... and chop one?

nG

mikescanlon
06-26-2007, 11:31 PM
by 9, i meant 11.

done a good amount, need phattony's router for any more progress.

very proud of it, by my measurements, the interior is 2.2 cubes, minus .18 displacement of woofer, will give me 2.02 net.

goat acheived, going to add more foam where you see foam.

probably going to skip out on the metal, this box is tough how it is.

Immacomputer
06-26-2007, 11:35 PM
I don't see any pictures...

Also, how do you plan on lowering the tuning frequency by reducing the enclosure volume? Are you cutting down the port area that much?

Rawr-DQ
06-26-2007, 11:40 PM
Port deff needs to be changed (longer/smaller) to get the lower tuning.

mikescanlon
06-26-2007, 11:42 PM
I don't see any pictures...

Also, how do you plan on lowering the tuning frequency by reducing the enclosure volume? Are you cutting down the port area that much?

a little bit. it's lowering only 4hz, i am going to fill this thing with sand tomorrow and measure the sand to get an exact displacement and cut my port a
little shorter if i have to, i want it between 28-35, so as long as i am in there, i'll be happy.


this thing looked soo dank before i started caulking, i ****ing **** the nuts at that caulk gun, stupid cheap one bleeds out forever after you let go. phattony is really the caulkmaster.

pics!


everything all cut out
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a141/mikescanlon11/PictureorVideo033.jpg

what a spread, huh
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a141/mikescanlon11/PictureorVideo032.jpg

mm2000.1
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a141/mikescanlon11/PictureorVideo037.jpg

going to fill the rest of that foam box with foam tomorrow so it'll be sonically dead.
notice the sweet 45's on the corners
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a141/mikescanlon11/PictureorVideo036.jpg

i love that spray stuff, this box should look pretty great with carpet.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a141/mikescanlon11/PictureorVideo035.jpg



going to port forward, woofer up, this worked pretty well last time i had some woofers.

Rawr-DQ
06-26-2007, 11:45 PM
You got it backwards, with the smaller box volume, the port needs to be longer to get the lower tuning (or smaller port area)

tapout
06-26-2007, 11:47 PM
what did you spray the port with?

I was gonna put it on my MM3000.1, but I digress. That ***** is gonna slam in that truck.

mikescanlon
06-26-2007, 11:48 PM
You got it backwards, with the smaller box volume, the port needs to be longer to get the lower tuning (or smaller port area)

i did make it longer, by 3 inches, and 1 inch smaller in the opening.

Rawr-DQ
06-26-2007, 11:49 PM
Ok, the way you put it in your post, it made it seem the other way around.

mikescanlon
06-26-2007, 11:54 PM
what did you spray the port with?

I was gonna put it on my MM3000.1, but I digress. That ***** is gonna slam in that truck.


http://www.rustoleum.com/product.asp?frm_product_id=583&SBL=5

multi textured rustoleum paint, it's got a nice texture to it, we used it on our buggy for the flooring so it's non-slip. so i took the leftovers.

it's almost like rubbery plastic when it dries.

Chevyaudio
06-26-2007, 11:55 PM
I see this in your future.

"Hi Mr. Basket...I'm Mr. Cone"

mikescanlon
06-26-2007, 11:56 PM
Ok, the way you put it in your post, it made it seem the other way around.

thanks for looking out, what part of florida you in?

mikescanlon
06-26-2007, 11:57 PM
I see this in your future.

"Hi Mr. Basket...I'm Mr. Cone"

not catching your drift. saying the woofer will bottom out?

also, the basket is a mrs. it has the hole in it, that the cone and voice coil go into.

tommyk90
06-26-2007, 11:59 PM
I see this in your future.

"Hi Mr. Basket...I'm Mr. Cone"

x a bagillion.

Chevyaudio
06-27-2007, 12:00 AM
not catching your drift. saying the woofer will bottom out?

also, the basket is a mrs. it has the hole in it, that the cone and voice coil go into.

I have a pretty good feeling about that ;).

Rawr-DQ
06-27-2007, 12:03 AM
thanks for looking out, what part of florida you in?

South west, (fort myers)

mikescanlon
06-27-2007, 12:04 AM
I have a pretty good feeling about that ;).

it's two cubes, 1000 watts into an MT, dont get it at all.

spoonraker
06-27-2007, 05:03 AM
You realize there is a second trigger on your caulking gun that will release the pressure on the tube after you're done doing your line of caulk, so that it won't keep oozing out after you've let go, right?

CRAZYCORNUTS18
06-27-2007, 05:10 AM
y do you think it will bottom out?

mikescanlon
06-27-2007, 05:59 AM
You realize there is a second trigger on your caulking gun that will release the pressure on the tube after you're done doing your line of caulk, so that it won't keep oozing out after you've let go, right?

yeah, on my one from work there is, not this cheap *** piece of crap. it's got the go trigger, thats it.



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Today 04:10 AM
CRAZYCORNUTS18 y do you think it will bottom out?"""""

chevyaudio says that the basket is too close to the cone, and it just bottoms out easy, too much woofer in too small of a space.

if this is true, i'll just have to recone to 18", i already have me a basket anyway. : )

spoonraker
06-27-2007, 06:10 AM
yeah, on my one from work there is, not this cheap *** piece of crap. it's got the go trigger, thats it


Some of them you have to twist the plunger to release the pressure, I have yet to see one that goes in and doesn't come out :)

http://s87301718.onlinehome.us/caulk.jpg

mikescanlon
06-28-2007, 05:47 AM
well, the 10 should be here around 3pm.

: )

excited.

inapontiac
06-28-2007, 01:24 PM
Can't wait to see the lil monster.

mikescanlon
06-28-2007, 03:45 PM
oh, a lil' monster it is.

tapout is an awesome seller, woofer recieved as described, very happy with it, gonna go home now and plug it all in.

pretty excited.

mikescanlon
06-28-2007, 11:16 PM
pounds like mad, loudest 10 i have ever experienced, it's quiet outside, gotta love that deadener, pics tomorrow, i am dead tired today.

the MT10 has a bad recone job on it, the dood didn't know too much about reconing, and tried a MT as a first one i guess? must not have known how tight it needs to be.

coil rubs on one side, goes away if you hold right above the E, so i inverted the woofer and screwed it down so the baffle is holding above the E, sounds alright, distorts at volume.


chevyaudio: mr. basket does not meet mr. cone, ever, and i wired it to .75 ohms so it should be getting ~2000watts.

the spider is actually the same size as the cone so in order for it to make contact with the basket, it would have to destroy the spider first.


problems as of now: 11.1 volts. :/ blows, need to get me a yellow top and some big three action.

maybe a h/o alt, ;)

ngsm13
06-28-2007, 11:19 PM
Werd.

nG

mazdakid
06-29-2007, 12:29 AM
**** your voltage goes down just under mine @.75

mikescanlon
06-29-2007, 05:38 AM
**** your voltage goes down just under mine @.75

yeah man, i have never ever had THAT bad of a voltage issue before.

it runs 14.1 ish at idle without the amp. and drops to 11.2ish one test tones.

mazdakid
06-29-2007, 08:05 AM
mine drops to about 11.6 full blast on songs.

mikescanlon
07-01-2007, 08:26 PM
**** man, this thing is ****ing loud, but the mechanical noise of this woofer is insane except on really low notes..


so i am going to build a 1 cube box with the woofer in verted, and port outside the box.

tuned to 30hz.

pics in 20 minutes.

tommyk90
07-01-2007, 09:06 PM
pounds like mad, loudest 10 i have ever experienced, it's quiet outside, gotta love that deadener, pics tomorrow, i am dead tired today.

the MT10 has a bad recone job on it, the dood didn't know too much about reconing, and tried a MT as a first one i guess? must not have known how tight it needs to be.

coil rubs on one side, goes away if you hold right above the E, so i inverted the woofer and screwed it down so the baffle is holding above the E, sounds alright, distorts at volume.


chevyaudio: mr. basket does not meet mr. cone, ever, and i wired it to .75 ohms so it should be getting ~2000watts.

the spider is actually the same size as the cone so in order for it to make contact with the basket, it would have to destroy the spider first.


problems as of now: 11.1 volts. :/ blows, need to get me a yellow top and some big three action.

maybe a h/o alt, ;)

SHOULD BE and ACTUALLY are two completely different things. ;)

Besides, 2000 watts isn't a lot of power for a freshly reconed MT anyways. :)

mikescanlon
07-01-2007, 10:36 PM
SHOULD BE and ACTUALLY are two completely different things. ;)

Besides, 2000 watts isn't a lot of power for a freshly reconed MT anyways. :)


yeah, with 11ish volts, i am not even dreaming about 2kw's... soon enough.

ordered this 350 dollar battery today with 2150ca, should get me somewhere where i need to go, and 2 more runs of zero gauge.

spike_e
07-01-2007, 10:56 PM
yea voltage drop is a *****. i have the set up in my sig and unless my gain is almost all the way down im hittin around 11.2 and at 10.6 on heavy bass notes.

tommyk90
07-01-2007, 10:57 PM
yeah, with 11ish volts, i am not even dreaming about 2kw's... soon enough.

ordered this 350 dollar battery today with 2150ca, should get me somewhere where i need to go, and 2 more runs of zero gauge.

Now you're talking. :)

mikescanlon
07-02-2007, 05:48 PM
Now you're talking. :)

http://www.odysseybatteries.com/battery/pc2150.htm


yeah man, anyone have any reviews on these? if it stands up to it's stats, i dont think i'll have anymore voltage issues.


coolest thing to me is there is no limit on intake voltage, so you can pump 500amps into it, and it wont get hurt.

if only i could find a H/o alt for my truck. interested if anyone is selling one for a 4 banger colorado.

tommyk90
07-02-2007, 06:40 PM
http://www.odysseybatteries.com/battery/pc2150.htm


yeah man, anyone have any reviews on these? if it stands up to it's stats, i dont think i'll have anymore voltage issues.


coolest thing to me is there is no limit on intake voltage, so you can pump 500amps into it, and it wont get hurt.

if only i could find a H/o alt for my truck. interested if anyone is selling one for a 4 banger colorado.

Those are VERY good batteries. Used by quite a few DB drag competitors.

Chevyaudio
07-02-2007, 06:44 PM
Yup @ 11.1 volts I highly doubt you were getting 2kw.

mikescanlon
07-02-2007, 10:22 PM
Yup @ 11.1 volts I highly doubt you were getting 2kw.

this amp is a monster if i was, 1 cube box is almost done.

mikescanlon
07-02-2007, 11:10 PM
10 inch mt for trade, looking for more SQ orienented setup than this, man, i didn't think they made woofers that sounded this bad. it pounds rediculously loud, but wow, it sounds soo bad. very inaccurate. gonna bring it to my local RE dealer for a checkup and make sure it's even in good condition.


should be this was a "new" woofer when i bought it.

beginning to think someone raped the crap out of this thing.