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Qbenjamin
06-17-2007, 06:56 PM
I started on this box yesterday evening, and I finished up on it today. Even after all the careful planning I did, in the end, I forgot to put the braces in. WTF? The design if from Chris (AKA IONSQL), which is pretty basic, but made for my sub. I used a crap load of tools: Dremel, Jigsaw, Sander, Silicone II Caulk, Drill Driver, Hole Saw, etc. Overall, I think this box took me well over 8 hours. I have never done a Vented box before, and now I know first hand, how laborious it really is. Kudos to those of you that do this everyday. Well, here comes the pics.....

3/4" MDF 49X97"
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z51/qbenjamin/DSC00671.jpg
First Few Cuts, using the Table Saw
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z51/qbenjamin/DSC00672.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z51/qbenjamin/DSC00673.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z51/qbenjamin/DSC00674.jpg

Qbenjamin
06-17-2007, 06:58 PM
Here are the Clamps, and the beginning of the walls:

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z51/qbenjamin/DSC00675.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z51/qbenjamin/DSC00676.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z51/qbenjamin/DSC00677.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z51/qbenjamin/DSC00678.jpg

Qbenjamin
06-17-2007, 06:59 PM
Now here comes the Silicone II Caulk. This stuff is about $5 per tube, but IMO, it is well worth the money spent. Sticks to the MDF very easily.
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z51/qbenjamin/DSC00683.jpg

Qbenjamin
06-17-2007, 07:02 PM
This part was a real pain in the butt as always. I used the Jigsaw to cut the Hole, and then I used the Dremel to smooth it out.
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z51/qbenjamin/DSC00684.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z51/qbenjamin/DSC00685.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z51/qbenjamin/DSC00686.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z51/qbenjamin/DSC00687.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z51/qbenjamin/DSC00688.jpg

msujeepaholic
06-17-2007, 07:03 PM
Lookin good so far man! One suggestion is that you could probably use just a few less screws. Whats going in it?

blackbonnie
06-17-2007, 07:04 PM
looking really good

blackbonnie
06-17-2007, 07:04 PM
Lookin good so far man! One suggestion is that you could probably use just a few less screws. Whats going in it?

x2 on the screws

Qbenjamin
06-17-2007, 07:05 PM
Well, here's the front wall and the port. While doing the port, I almost made the mistake of screwing down the left wall first and then trying to put the rear port in. Well, had I done this, I wouldn't have been able to install the rear port.
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z51/qbenjamin/DSC00689.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z51/qbenjamin/DSC00690.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z51/qbenjamin/DSC00691.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z51/qbenjamin/DSC00692.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z51/qbenjamin/DSC00693.jpg

Storm90
06-17-2007, 07:06 PM
looks good.

xplicitACTS
06-17-2007, 07:08 PM
I cut smooth holes with my jig saw.....but you sir are using a sawsall.....recipercating.

Qbenjamin
06-17-2007, 07:10 PM
Now, to finalize this annoying project.....
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z51/qbenjamin/DSC00694.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z51/qbenjamin/DSC00697.jpg

dcole18
06-17-2007, 07:10 PM
looks good, but im gonna buy you a plunge router and a circle jig for christmas...:)

dcole18
06-17-2007, 07:11 PM
lol at the red ***** flashlight in the last pic:laugh:

Qbenjamin
06-17-2007, 07:13 PM
Looking at this pic, I notice two things right away:
1) No, that is not a *****, it's actually a flashlight that my wife was issued in Air Force BMT in 2005

2) I actually had about a 1/4" overlay on that second baffle. It sticks out just a tad bit, and I put a crap load of Caulk up at the top.

dcole18
06-17-2007, 07:15 PM
Looking at this pic, I notice two things right away:
1) No, that is not a *****, it's actually a flashlight that my wife was issued in Air Force BMT in 2005

2) I actually had about a 1/4" overlay on that second baffle. It sticks out just a tad bit, and I put a crap load of Caulk up at the top.


1) your wife wants you to think she just uses that thing for a flashlight:)

2) the box looks good

Qbenjamin
06-17-2007, 07:15 PM
I will probably be painting the box next weekend. I am looking for an FI logo to stencil in the front, and then paint it in yellow of course.

Reson8
06-17-2007, 07:17 PM
Looks like its turning out quite well! You definetly can cut back on the screws, one every 3-4 inches should be enough, and I'd recommend countersinking them if you have the opportunity. Adds nothing structurally, but looks better if you want to finish it in something other than carpet.

mtlhead
06-17-2007, 07:18 PM
lol at the red ***** flashlight in the last pic:laugh:

did someone say fleshlight?

Qbenjamin
06-17-2007, 07:18 PM
The sub:
FI BL 12"
Pchamfer; Cooling; Daily; Universal

The box:
2.2CUF^ @ 32HZ

Again, thanx to Chris for the design. PM IonSQL if you need a box built or just the design. Thanx for looking. More on the box next weekend, as the paint will be put on it.

dvrmstrng
06-17-2007, 07:18 PM
i agree with above...looks great but maybe invest in a countersink bit...they are great for not splitting wood as well as a cleaner look

but nice job dude

dcole18
06-17-2007, 07:20 PM
did someone say fleshlight?

yes, yes they did:yumyum:

Qbenjamin
06-17-2007, 07:22 PM
I just have a bad habit of using a crap load of screws, even when I do sealed boxes. I figured I was using too many screws on this box, but when I thought about the **** ports had to be screwed in top and bottom too, I was like :crap: . I had been putting in a screw exactly every two inches. At least I will know for next time, to go about every 3-1/2. I used well over 150 6 1-3/4.


Looks like its turning out quite well! You definetly can cut back on the screws, one every 3-4 inches should be enough, and I'd recommend countersinking them if you have the opportunity. Adds nothing structurally, but looks better if you want to finish it in something other than carpet.

azbass
06-17-2007, 07:22 PM
learn to use all them tools better.

and the screws need to be countersunk.

jeeper07
06-17-2007, 07:23 PM
nice job. looks like u got a good work shop there. like everyone said too many screws is bad. nice job tho.

Qbenjamin
06-17-2007, 07:26 PM
i agree with above...looks great but maybe invest in a countersink bit...they are great for not splitting wood as well as a cleaner look

but nice job dude

Will do, but amazingly, this is the first time I have had the MDF split like that. I have done about 12 sealed boxes, using 1" MDF, I didn't think it would make a difference in the 3/4" MDF.

Qbenjamin
06-17-2007, 07:38 PM
I have a crap load of tools, but you are right AZBAZZ, I am not comfortable using most of them. i usually never have time to do projects like this, since I used to work two jobs. Now that I have just dedicated myself to Firefighting, I will definitely start familiarizing myself with my tools, as I see a lot more projects that I want to start doing.

Qbenjamin
06-17-2007, 07:40 PM
And to all, thanx for the heads-up on the screws. Also, I know that my recipricating saw skills are marginal, but thanx to the Dremel, smoothing it out was a piece of cake. Took about 2-5 minutes on each board, to get it completely smooth.

azbass
06-17-2007, 07:43 PM
I have a crap load of tools, but you are right AZBAZZ, I am not comfortable using most of them. i usually never have time to do projects like this, since I used to work two jobs. Now that I have just dedicated myself to Firefighting, I will definitely start familiarizing myself with my tools, as I see a lot more projects that I want to start doing.

you will fine it easy and quick to build once you know the tools. :)

Qbenjamin
06-17-2007, 07:46 PM
you will fine it easy and quick to build once you know the tools. :)


I hope so, as I don't want to spend 8 hours doing another box again. I think most of that time was occupied by pre-drilling holes + all those deg on screws.

:laugh:

R0ID_RAGE
06-17-2007, 07:49 PM
ooh, this looks like fun...anyone have box plans for 2 12" kicker CVR's(i just freakin bought a box, but now i want to make my own--

...is it bad to have subs at an angle in a trunk?

Qbenjamin
06-17-2007, 07:54 PM
ooh, this looks like fun...anyone have box plans for 2 12" kicker CVR's(i just freakin bought a box, but now i want to make my own--

...is it bad to have subs at an angle in a trunk?

PM IonSQL, he will do a box design for you, for a small fee.

R0ID_RAGE
06-17-2007, 08:04 PM
ah...looks a lil easy to pay for a plan, might be time consuming, but not too difficult as long as you have the tools, and know how to use em!

i'd be interested in knowing whether they were really meant to be ported or sealed--imo they sound better sealed, but i have no clue what the RF box i was using was tuned too...all i know was that really fast double base blended together ported, and has come alive sealed...

and still--is it bad to set the subs at an angle in the trunk?

Headbanger
06-17-2007, 08:10 PM
If I may suggest use a jigsaw on the hole next time also drill your hole close to the edge of the hole not in the middle that way you can just saw all the way around at once. They way you did it is madness.

Qbenjamin
06-17-2007, 08:26 PM
If I may suggest use a jigsaw on the hole next time also drill your hole close to the edge of the hole not in the middle that way you can just saw all the way around at once. They way you did it is madness.

I was originally going to use my Dremel Circle Cutter and bit #655, but that didn't work out so well. With the Circle cutter, you have to drill a hole in the middle to mount it in, and then let the guide do the work. Well, that was easier said than done. That is why you see the holes in the middle. If you notice, I did actually cut a hole in the upper part of the sub cutout, and go around as needed.

Immacomputer
06-17-2007, 09:36 PM
It's possible to cut a very nice hole with a cheap jigsaw and a cheap blade. It really just takes patience and going very slow. It also helps to have somebody there with a leaf blower removing the dust as you create it.

I suggest just using clamps and glue, since you have them available, and quit using the screws. It makes the enclosure stronger and it looks much better that way.

Qbenjamin
06-17-2007, 09:40 PM
I had my Shop Vac tucked in between my legs as I was using the recipricating saw. Once that sawdust builds up, it hard to see what you are doing.

R0ID_RAGE
06-18-2007, 01:18 PM
^^^just as long as you didn't have the saw tucked between your legs...that might not turn out so well

Qbenjamin
06-19-2007, 09:26 PM
I am debating on putting the FI logo in the front or the JL audio logo. I cut out the FI logo from a picture that they had posted on their site. I used an exacto blade to get it to look nice. I then sprayed it on a practice board just to see how it would look:
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z51/qbenjamin/DSC00704.jpg

I will do the JL logo tomorrow, and see how it looks.

Qbenjamin
06-19-2007, 09:28 PM
I will have to fix the "i" a lil bit, as it looks a bit jakked.

ngsm13
06-19-2007, 09:31 PM
Oh god, you used a sawzall to cut out your sub whole?

Just use a jigsaw man, and a new blade.

nG

Qbenjamin
06-19-2007, 09:33 PM
I did on the second baffle.


Oh god, you used a sawzall to cut out your sub whole?

Just use a jigsaw man, and a new blade.

nG

ngsm13
06-19-2007, 09:46 PM
Whew. Steady your had young apprentice, steady your hand!

Lol. Good first ported build man.

nG

JarvisB
06-19-2007, 10:14 PM
I am going to paint Fi logo on the face of my box tomorrow and I ll let you know how it turns out.. I will take pics as well..

Qbenjamin
06-19-2007, 10:31 PM
Here's the JL logo, I will fill th A;D; and O with their proper cut out, btu I was just to lazy to do it now:
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z51/qbenjamin/DSC00705.jpg

Blove1991
06-19-2007, 11:45 PM
JL sub going in it?

if not, Paint teh Fi on their

Qbenjamin
06-20-2007, 02:29 PM
JL sub going in it?

if not, Paint teh Fi on their

No, I have the JL 1000/1 that will be hooked up to a Q now in that box. I was going to do the BL, but I am probably gonna get another car here real soon, and I don't plan on upgrading anything electrical in it.

JarvisB
06-20-2007, 07:35 PM
Here is mine.. I just did it today.. Came out nicely

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i281/uglydimple12/DSCN2349.jpg
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i281/uglydimple12/DSCN2352.jpg
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i281/uglydimple12/DSCN2353.jpg

Pics dont do any justice.. It looks a lot better in person IMO.. Also in those pics, the sun is in the way so I can take better pics tonite when the sun is down..

But what did you use to paint those logos tho?

I just made a stencil out of a cardboard box and used it on the box..

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i281/uglydimple12/DSCN2346.jpg

Qbenjamin
06-20-2007, 07:43 PM
Looks good. I just used some economy spray paint, since it was just a test run.

JarvisB
06-20-2007, 08:03 PM
yeha but how did you get the logo perfectly painted? did you make a stencil like I did?

Qbenjamin
06-20-2007, 08:08 PM
yeha but how did you get the logo perfectly painted? did you make a stencil like I did?

Yeah, I made a logo out of a sheet of paper. I printed the logo from the FI website, and cut it out with an exacto blade.

:suicide: :laugh:

Qbenjamin
06-22-2007, 10:17 PM
Ok, so I put the sub in the box today, and hooked up the amp. I will have a vid and pics up tomorrow!!

mazdakid
06-22-2007, 10:34 PM
how does it sound?

Qbenjamin
06-24-2007, 05:56 PM
Here's the paint on the box. I can't believe that "I" made the mistake of using a white primer with a DARK color paint. Well, the primer white bleeds through the Black paint badly. I should have know better and had my primer tinted gray, but oh well, life goes on. It will probably take about 2-1/2 coats of paint just to cover that white primer (I am only on the first coat). I used Zinsser primer and Valspar paint color "Kettle Black."
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z51/qbenjamin/DSC00713.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z51/qbenjamin/DSC00715.jpg



Next up, will be the JL and FI logo in silver on the box.

Rawr-DQ
06-24-2007, 06:13 PM
Hard to make out anything in those pics, can't see any detail.

connersdad19
06-24-2007, 06:32 PM
nice so far more pics and vid?

Qbenjamin
06-24-2007, 07:02 PM
nice so far more pics and vid?

Will have them in due time. My Q had a blown spider. Once it get's back from being re-coned, vid will be up.

Qbenjamin
06-26-2007, 09:22 PM
Well, here's the JL logo. I jakked it up a lil bit by it not being centered, and the actual silver spray paint shows a film in the middle logo.

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z51/qbenjamin/DSC00718.jpg

Qbenjamin
06-26-2007, 09:35 PM
FI logo will be in the front, tomorrow. I am going to do it in white though.

jmanpc
06-26-2007, 09:37 PM
I built a ported box in an hour yesterday. 4 @ 33

Qbenjamin
06-26-2007, 09:44 PM
I built a ported box in an hour yesterday. 4 @ 33

Nice, I can't stay focused long enough to do a box in under 4 hours. I get side tracked by other things a lot.

spike_e
06-26-2007, 10:01 PM
nice to see you are puttin my amp to good use. i can wait to get mine!

Qbenjamin
06-26-2007, 11:03 PM
nice to see you are puttin my amp to good use. i can wait to get mine!

Well, not exactly, my sub had to be sent in for a re-cone........

spike_e
06-26-2007, 11:15 PM
well yea GOOD POINT. i cant figue out how to wire my ****in subs
Well, not exactly, my sub had to be sent in for a re-cone........

Qbenjamin
07-16-2007, 09:58 PM
Well, after much delay, here's the final outcome of the box. The JL logo on the back wall looks very nice from the inside of the car. I very rarely let my seats down, but when I do, there will be a nice glimpse of the logo. I found that grill cover on Egay for about $12, it was a great addition to protect the sub from things touching it. I will try to post a before and after vid tomorrow.

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z51/qbenjamin/DSC00741.jpg

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z51/qbenjamin/DSC00742.jpg