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bikinpunk
05-20-2007, 02:51 PM
After 2 weekends I'm done. I had tweeters in there with them but I took them out. They were just in the way. I also had vinyl over them and scrapped it. Figured I'd go with grille cloth since it would cover the speakers. I tried to go as stealth as possible, but I'm far from the best fabricator. This was my first battle with fiberglass, and I'm just happy to be done. I ordered some brown grille cloth from parts express but it was too brown. A couple coats of spray paint and a round in the washer took care of it. The pods house vifa tg9 3.5" midranges. The stuff around the speakers in ensolite to help seal up the baffle well. Also have silicone in there. The sound difference is very noticeable between this and when the front wasn't fully glassed in. Stuffed with polyfill and ensolite. Done.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b138/bikinpunk/civic%20install/tweeter%20pods/IMG_2263.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b138/bikinpunk/civic%20install/tweeter%20pods/IMG_2264.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b138/bikinpunk/civic%20install/tweeter%20pods/IMG_2272.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b138/bikinpunk/civic%20install/tweeter%20pods/IMG_2275.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b138/bikinpunk/civic%20install/tweeter%20pods/IMG_2477.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b138/bikinpunk/civic%20install/tweeter%20pods/IMG_2478.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b138/bikinpunk/civic%20install/tweeter%20pods/IMG_6876.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b138/bikinpunk/civic%20install/tweeter%20pods/IMG_6877.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b138/bikinpunk/civic%20install/tweeter%20pods/IMG_6882.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b138/bikinpunk/civic%20install/tweeter%20pods/IMG_6883.jpg

bikinpunk
05-20-2007, 02:51 PM
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b138/bikinpunk/civic%20install/tweeter%20pods/IMG_6884.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b138/bikinpunk/civic%20install/tweeter%20pods/IMG_6885.jpg

The driver's side cloth cover is a little messed up at the bottom, but the driver's side is the hardest side to fit since I have to overcome a hump, so I'm still pleased overall.

I'm done with fiberglass from now on unless it's a large project. Trying to fiberglass up there and then make sure everything was still snug was waaaay too much work for me to take on again.

Now I gotta work on the tweeters...

Megalomaniac
11-07-2007, 01:46 PM
After extensive use, how do they sound now?

req
11-07-2007, 02:49 PM
woah man. i dunno.


i wish i could have done it for you. prolly could have gotten those done in a days work with a few beers and they could look better :(


well. i hope it was a learning expierence.

Megalomaniac
11-07-2007, 03:01 PM
woah man. i dunno.


i wish i could have done it for you. prolly could have gotten those done in a days work with a few beers and they could look better :(


well. i hope it was a learning expierence.

maybe he rushed them because he really wanted to just hear them. im hoping he redid them since may.

fwb_1234
11-09-2007, 01:57 PM
I wonder how that affects imaging.

Are you running 3 speakers + a sub, or that speaker covering the whole midrange?

BassBallin
11-09-2007, 01:59 PM
this is a old thred

smd4life
11-09-2007, 02:00 PM
on a scale of 1-10...ill get it an ***.5...but good for your first time i guess

Megalomaniac
11-09-2007, 02:01 PM
this is a old thred

no **** :fyi: i wanted to know how it sounds after extensive use. and its always better to post in an existing thread than to start a new one ;) didnt you watch the Posting & You video?

Megalomaniac
11-09-2007, 02:03 PM
I wonder how that affects imaging.

Are you running 3 speakers + a sub, or that speaker covering the whole midrange?

that be impossible. those mids cant go below 100hz :). but ibet they are playing from like 200hz on up

fwb_1234
11-12-2007, 12:31 AM
that be impossible. those mids cant go below 100hz :). but ibet they are playing from like 200hz on up

What's the rest of his setup?


Or if the OP comes back, your setup.

Megalomaniac
11-12-2007, 12:49 AM
What's the rest of his setup?


Or if the OP comes back, your setup.

Nobody has an attitude on this end of the computer.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/glevii/TG9FreqResp.jpg


;)


his setup is

Source: Alpine w205, h701
Front Stage: HAT L1's, Vifa TG9, Dyn mw162 by PDX 4.150 & 4.100
Sub Stage: 12w7 by 1000/1

fwb_1234
11-12-2007, 12:53 AM
What am I looking at?

And what did you mean by that comment?



:)

Megalomaniac
11-12-2007, 12:58 AM
looked like you were being a ********, i couldnt tell: sorry if i offended you. I have done my HW on these mids. they wont play below 100hz nicely at all. you can see it on the graph it plumits right anything below the 100hz mark.

bikinpunk
11-12-2007, 01:21 AM
Whoa! Dug from the depths!

First off, yes that's a horrid install. In all honesty, I took on more than I should have for my first fiberglass install and by the time I got to the end I rushed it. I will be re-doing them but not until I get new mids (explained below).

IMO, the imaging is good. The speakers are on-axis. The range is 250hz (24db slope) - 5.3khz (12db slope). They are in an aperiodic enclosure, venting down into the dash. I have major polyfill in there along with some ensolite. They have no problem playing 250hz, but I wouldn't try too far below that.

For how cheap they are, I'm more than happy with their response. I know the term "for the money" is throw around alot, but these truly fall into a "great for the price" category. An excellent speaker for someone wantingn to test the waters on a 3-way active system, but not wanting to go in debt trying it.

My only issue with them is the low sensitivity. In that respect, they have a bit of trouble keeping up with the rest of the system at a decent volume. It was pretty noticeable at first, but after a week I got used to it and it's fine now. BUT, I am planning on getting some Scan Speak revelators to try there. I'll be firing them off-axis directly toward each other. That way I can clean up the install some, since firing on-axis makes the speakers protrude and not sit flush with the pillar.

If I don't like the revs I'll put these back in and try off-axis with them.

But, to sum it up, these are great speakers. Just make sure you do some homework on the install. Sending them about 25 w rms. That's all they need.


I'm running hybrid audio L1 tweeters, and dyn mw162 midbasses.



As for the pods... well, I'd like to cut them down and ultimately streamline them with the pillar so that it looks like part of it. I will be moving the tweeters out of the stock location to the pillars as well, firing directly across the dash (at each other; same as the Scans will be).

Megalomaniac
11-12-2007, 01:27 AM
the tg9 performs better off-axis ...from what i have gathered

bikinpunk
11-12-2007, 01:32 AM
Not according to that graph.

Also, not according to me. ;)

I tried it on for a little bit. Didn't much care for it, though. If I did go back to on-axis I could probably get it to work.