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bjfish11
05-14-2007, 10:49 PM
I copied and pasted this from cajunkyard.com. Thought you guys might want to see it as well....



Chris came up with another insane design for me to work on. It will not be like anything you have ever seen from me. Im trying something new with it. Chris talked me into trying out the flared port. BUT, :naughty: he also asked me to take it to the next level. However, we are going to keep that a secret until the box is finished. He wanted to add a little more of a "flare" to it, I guess. LOL.
All I can say, is I have never seen a box like this before, so it should be something a little different for everyone to see.
It might be a tough one, but Im ready for it. Hopefully I will get going on it tomorrow night, so it should be finished by this weekend. Ill definitely post pics of the finished box.





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This project is well underway. After getting all the cuts figured out, spacing, and placement, we are ready to roll. I dont want to give away the whole idea yet, but here are a few teaser pics....

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/5-14-07002.jpg

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/5-14-07001.jpg

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/5-14-07005.jpg

baseballer1100
05-14-2007, 11:09 PM
World's sexiest box.

Calikid
05-14-2007, 11:12 PM
nice , and i already figured out what you're doing :)

baseballer1100
05-14-2007, 11:13 PM
I cant wait.

bjfish11
05-14-2007, 11:16 PM
I think a few have figured it out already. No biggie. I hope to have it finished up in the next couple nights.

bdawson72
05-14-2007, 11:17 PM
neither can I


I'm excited. Depending on these results i may have to look further into this.

blackbonnie
05-14-2007, 11:18 PM
cant wait to see end product, good luck

ThomasG
05-14-2007, 11:29 PM
Hey BJ only post the final pics on CAJ and make everyone go over there :naughty:

oglejust
05-15-2007, 12:08 AM
dammit ive been wanting to do taht for so long but i havent got around to it yet :(

sinosic
05-15-2007, 02:09 AM
thats the tightest sh1t i have ever seen. is there a name for this or did one of you guys think of this all by your self. bada55, i cant get over this. i cant wait to see the end result. will you share your knowledge with use?

James Bang
05-15-2007, 02:18 AM
nice kerfing. i gotta try this myself

phyphoestilic
05-15-2007, 02:24 AM
nice, i've seen some box's done that way, always cool to see it.

xplicitACTS
05-15-2007, 02:34 AM
WTF? is that MDF?

smd4life
05-15-2007, 02:40 AM
no...it's rubber sheets silly

xplicitACTS
05-15-2007, 02:46 AM
no...it's rubber sheets silly

I desreve that....just never seen it bend like that with out breaking or splitting......did you have to prep it before attempting the bend besides cutting the slits?

Blove1991
05-15-2007, 07:12 AM
nice, i've seen some box's done that way, always cool to see it.

Im pretty sure he's just not kerfing that peice:fro:

bjfish11
05-15-2007, 07:12 AM
Actually its Trupan Light, you should know I dont use MDF. I use the expensive, high quality stuff ;)

I dont know if there is a name for this specific design, I have never seen it before. Chris just came to me with this design and Im giving it a try. All credit goes to him for the design. Some of the stuff he comes up with.... is just flat out amazing.

bjfish11
05-15-2007, 07:19 AM
Im pretty sure he's just not kerfing that peice:fro:

:up2somet:

mendon99
05-15-2007, 11:33 AM
in for more.

xplicitACTS
05-15-2007, 07:12 PM
can trupan be picked up at HD or lowes?....if so how much per sheet?

bjfish11
05-15-2007, 10:44 PM
I doubt you can get it at Lowes or HD. You will have to try your local lumberyard. Expect to pay around $35-40 per sheet.

Immacomputer
05-16-2007, 06:56 AM
Looks good so far. I've thought about rounding off all the corners before but not having a flush bit for my broken router kept me from trying. Well, that and the fact that kerfing is a ***** and takes a while without a movable saw.

How did you handle kerfing that long piece? I know you have a ****** shop but I would like to see where you did that and how difficult it was.

bjfish11
05-16-2007, 07:07 AM
Looks good so far. I've thought about rounding off all the corners before but not having a flush bit for my broken router kept me from trying. Well, that and the fact that kerfing is a ***** and takes a while without a movable saw.

How did you handle kerfing that long piece? I know you have a ****** shop but I would like to see where you did that and how difficult it was.

Use a table saw. It wasnt really all that difficult, I did have to have someone hold the far end after it had been kerfed because it wanted to droop over the edge. It really wasnt too bad though, just took some time.

AudioXtremes
05-16-2007, 09:39 AM
I really need to try some kerfing!

DaBeholder
05-16-2007, 09:42 AM
that's hawt!!!

snb778
05-16-2007, 09:43 AM
I love that style...reminds me of......well you guys know who

IonSQL
05-16-2007, 10:08 AM
I love that style...reminds me of......well you guys know who

ooh, didn't have to go there :eek:

BadAndy44
05-16-2007, 11:07 AM
WOW amazing!!!

Immacomputer
05-16-2007, 12:38 PM
Use a table saw. It wasnt really all that difficult, I did have to have someone hold the far end after it had been kerfed because it wanted to droop over the edge. It really wasnt too bad though, just took some time.

I used a table saw with a 30" arm and kerfing a 60" piece was annoying as hell. I was by myself and I had issues with the center bowing up where I was making the cuts. It would have helped to have a friend or table extension.

stishdr
05-16-2007, 12:45 PM
very nice...i'm exited :)

bjfish11
05-16-2007, 02:21 PM
very nice...i'm exited :)

Im excited as well. Have you been home to check out your box yet? How did you like it?

DeuceLee
05-16-2007, 04:00 PM
Updates! Updates! Updates! :D

bjfish11
05-16-2007, 07:05 PM
Ill have some more pics tonight.

bjfish11
05-16-2007, 09:46 PM
Didnt get to work more tonight on it... but here is a few more pics. Who guessed right?

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/5-14-07007.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/5-14-07006.jpg

hempy
05-16-2007, 10:31 PM
***.

Blove1991
05-16-2007, 10:31 PM
Me :)

Looks ****** dude

bjfish11
05-16-2007, 10:35 PM
Thanks guys ;)

SeaKid
05-16-2007, 10:43 PM
You have alot of rings in the back there.

Looks really good man. REALLY good.

bjfish11
05-16-2007, 10:47 PM
I keep most of the circles from the cut outs, never know when someone might need a ring cut.

SeaKid
05-16-2007, 10:50 PM
True true.

AlpineUser
05-16-2007, 11:21 PM
wow very nice....i love how you are kerfing it....pulling a mark pots lol

IonSQL
05-16-2007, 11:25 PM
Yeah, but I bet I'll actually get the box.... unlike with potts :D

bjfish11
05-17-2007, 07:05 AM
Lol^^

styldaccordngly
05-17-2007, 07:14 AM
ive seen this technique before, fish, (slotting wood to bend it) i was amazed and it has intrigued me..
do you think you loose any stiffness or strength in the structure?
it appears you have some goop in the slots? wood glue?

your boxes are amazing...

tapout
05-17-2007, 07:27 AM
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tag team.

Real nice design and build guys.

IonSQL
05-17-2007, 07:33 AM
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Real nice design and build guys.

Thank you :)

And yes, I think BJ pulled it off quite nicely :D

Fattony911
05-17-2007, 09:18 AM
how the hell are those cars not even slightly covered in sawdust? Great build and design, im waiting for the finished pics :)

2kchevy06civic
05-17-2007, 09:23 AM
wow that's pretty cool. Good Work here :thumbsup: How much does a box like yours go for?

DeuceLee
05-17-2007, 09:24 AM
daym that is fricken sick...very ****...

i'm copying it :naughty: :laugh: :D

bjfish11
05-17-2007, 02:25 PM
how the hell are those cars not even slightly covered in sawdust? Great build and design, im waiting for the finished pics :)
I back the cars out when Im cutting and making a lot of dust.


wow that's pretty cool. Good Work here :thumbsup: How much does a box like yours go for?
Thanks man. Havent really decided on a price for this style of box yet. Just not sure what would be a fair extra charge for this. Any any ideas?


daym that is fricken sick...very ****...

i'm copying it :naughty: :laugh: :D

Thanks man. Copy away. I dont think Chris has a problem with it.

AlpineUser
05-17-2007, 04:43 PM
i would charge 10-20 more for doing that cause i think it would be a ***** but thats my opinion

Intrepid Bass
05-17-2007, 04:47 PM
Came out great BJ!

I want one :(

Hope you enjoy it ION.

djman37
05-17-2007, 04:50 PM
:goldcup: N I C E looking box.

always good to see quality work.

IonSQL
05-17-2007, 04:51 PM
I'm sure I will Intrepid, thanks!

Wkbdkid
05-17-2007, 06:52 PM
stared at the final pic for awhile. Nicely done. Makes me wanna go out and try it.

bjfish11
05-17-2007, 11:12 PM
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/5-17-07001.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/5-17-07002.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/5-17-07003.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/5-17-07007.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/5-17-07008.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u282/bjfish11/5-17-07009.jpg

bjfish11
05-17-2007, 11:12 PM
Bottom still needs to be painted. Thats with two coats, Ill check on it tomorrow, but I dont think it will need a third. Enjoy.

tapout
05-17-2007, 11:16 PM
what type of finish is that?

bjfish11
05-17-2007, 11:19 PM
Its a hammered paint. Its slightly textured. It looks more textured in the pics than it does in person. Pretty cool stuff.

ThomasG
05-17-2007, 11:22 PM
i like it

tapout
05-17-2007, 11:22 PM
Its a hammered paint. Its slightly textured. It looks more textured in the pics than it does in person. Pretty cool stuff.

secksi.

YGPM

lilmaniac2
05-17-2007, 11:25 PM
****it i had this idea a few weeks ago just didnt have time to do it.... oh well lol nice build

mikey060
05-17-2007, 11:26 PM
that is a beautiful enclosure

great design/build guys:)

my next project is going to be to learn how to make proper kurf cuts

bjfish11
05-17-2007, 11:27 PM
Sorry Chad, you snooze you lose... lol jp.

Thanks mikey. Still dont know where Chris comes up with this stuff. Wish I had his imagination.

Wkbdkid
05-18-2007, 12:57 AM
:2thumbs:

mendon99
05-18-2007, 06:35 AM
****** box.

type[s5]
05-18-2007, 06:45 AM
:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap: now that's what i call a well-made box.

UCF52
05-18-2007, 10:18 AM
Its a hammered paint. Its slightly textured. It looks more textured in the pics than it does in person. Pretty cool stuff.

just curious, where did you get that paint? and did you use a primer? basically what was your application process?

oh, and that is a sick box man!

Flipx99
05-18-2007, 10:22 AM
Very nice box.

How well do you think the kerfed edges would hold up if you burped at 2k or so?

IonSQL
05-18-2007, 10:24 AM
Very nice box.

How well do you think the kerfed edges would hold up if you burped at 2k or so?

Don't know..... but we're going to find out :D

Flipx99
05-18-2007, 10:26 AM
Don't know..... but we're going to find out :D

Yes. It was a loaded question.

Hintzyboy
05-18-2007, 12:25 PM
Crap, Only the final pics are working for me. Can't see any of the in-progress stuff.

Anyway, BJ, what does your average enclosure go for? I want to build my own, but there are a few cool little things I want to try and I don't have the time and money to build half a dozen different boxes trying to get it right.

mlstrass
05-18-2007, 12:27 PM
Nice as always BJ.

Personally I would have used a roundover on the square walls of the port and outside edges of the box, would have looked even sleeker IMO.

Hammertone came out nice. Brush on or spray? I've actually had much better luck brushing it on...

lilmaniac2
05-18-2007, 12:33 PM
so what are the max dimensions you can make using a 4x8 sheet?

UCF52
05-18-2007, 12:55 PM
just curious, where did you get that paint? and did you use a primer? basically what was your application process?

oh, and that is a sick box man!


i found it, but i am still curious about the application process you used?

bjfish11
05-18-2007, 06:50 PM
Very nice box.

How well do you think the kerfed edges would hold up if you burped at 2k or so?

I dont see why it wouldnt. After the pieces are kerfed and bent, the cuts close up completely due to the bend. I fill it in with wood glue BEFORE I bend it. So really, I dont see why it wont. BUT we will find out for sure eventually.


Thanks to everyone for the compliments.

jimbob069
05-19-2007, 12:27 AM
What was the spacing that you ended up using between the kerf cuts?

These pics make me wanna go try it right now.

Tight box man.

~jim~

bjfish11
05-19-2007, 07:07 AM
I did 10 cuts. 1 every half inch. For different radii, you can use different combos to get what you need.

IamDeMan
05-19-2007, 07:25 AM
i found it, but i am still curious about the application process you used?
It appears he rolled it or brushed, hmmm. I use the spray rattle can of it myself.

bjfish11
05-19-2007, 09:08 AM
Sorry forgot to address the paint procedure. It was rolled on. No primer. i hit it with 3 coats. fairly simple.

helotaxi
05-19-2007, 09:50 AM
I've used high build auto primer and the rattle can hammered spray from HD with good results. Just make sure you let it cure all the way before trying to do anything with it. It takes close to 24hrs to cure.

UCF52
05-19-2007, 10:19 AM
Sorry forgot to address the paint procedure. It was rolled on. No primer. i hit it with 3 coats. fairly simple.

sweet thanks!


I've used high build auto primer and the rattle can hammered spray from HD with good results. Just make sure you let it cure all the way before trying to do anything with it. It takes close to 24hrs to cure.

good to know because all i can find is the spray.

stishdr
05-21-2007, 12:28 AM
very nice, kinda wish i would of had the flared ports.... the box u made me is great, arrived in fine condition, i just bought a new vehicle so i'm in the process of moving everything over to the new car...hope to have everything all hooked up by the end of the week. i'll get u some pics when i can :).

THUMPPER
05-21-2007, 11:48 AM
Just remember that when using a high power woofer in
an enclosure with Kerf Cut bends they have to be rienforced
on the inside radius with fiberglass resin and some matting..

I have seen them split from the preasure inside the enclosure

other than that NICE build..you picked up on that one really fast:graduate:

bjfish11
05-21-2007, 12:45 PM
Before I bent it, I filled in all the kerf cuts with glue Then when it was bent, it worked out where there were no gaps on the inside so its basically a solid piece now. Think there may be a problem with that.? I beat on it pretty hard with my palm and it appeared pretty strong.

THUMPPER
05-21-2007, 12:58 PM
as long as the cuts are full of glue you should be fine....

a little trick I learned is to take some fiberglass resin and let
it thicken up a bit in the cuts before you bend it....this way it
leaves no gaps and when cured the bend is stronger than the
MDF itself....(use lots of hardener)

bjfish11
05-21-2007, 02:23 PM
Ill have to keep that in mind. Thanks man.